SH Archive Polish "Asstronaut" Admits Earth is Flat

[Borec]

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Username: Borec
Date: 2020-03-01 19:00:09
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Something for Sunday... Pink Floyd - Things Left Unsaid. These guys always knew, that true is out there. AMAZING music and sense to say something more... Watch the horizon.

 

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Username: Dorothy
Date: 2020-03-01 23:04:06
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Eclipses have been reported with both the sun and the moon in the sky, so definitely it's NOT their interplaying that causes them.

Also, the shadow that the moon casts on the earth is much much much smaller than the moon itself (same thing for sun eclipses), and this is the only "known" case when the shadow is smaller than the object, i.e. it's impossible and bullshit explanation. Unless the moon and the sun are much much much smaller and closer. That it's what "flatearthers" (read: "people that don't fall for obvious bullshits and are NOT monkeys on a ball") say.

While we're at it... Most of the days, you can see the moon in the daytime too.

1)The sun and the moon at the same time in the sky?
2)The moon still has its phase (NOT FULL)?
3)The earth obviously can NOT be between them, otherwise you would NOT see both at the same time, and for the same reasons, can NOT be a ball.

Do you understand? The heliocentric baalshit means that the earth should be between the 2 luminaries called sun and moon, but it is not.
There's nothing between them so it can NOT be the earth's shadow casted on the moon, and the moon should be full. But it's not.

So, the moon phases are caused by the moon itself, and neither the moon phases/eclipses nor the sun eclipses are caused by the earth / sun / moon being balls and their relative position between them.

Guess what!? The "flat earth" model wins 100%.

Nova & JD
Dorothy's returning from yet another rabbit hole. I'll LEVEL with you I believe I've responded with inbuilt programs as opposed to fresh investigation and have appreciated your direction and I'm on it.
Both fe & re give equally good arguments, im focused on curvature proof or lack off it. So much is being debunked but I was taken by Walter BISLINS- en blog and working on that currently in shows RE is 100%.
I'd like this solved too and one day when someone does I'll be ecstatic.

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2020-03-02 18:44:28
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I'd like this solved too and one day when someone does I'll be ecstatic.

This is the problem, I think. One would think that if that day were achievable, it would have already come.

"...when someone does I'll be ecstatic." - The issue with that is many people have solved this puzzle. Copernicus solved it. Flat earthers solved it. NASA solved it. Sea level solved it. The moon landing solved it.

But none of that is acceptable, is it? Not for us, at least. Let others believe what they want. That is not our path. We are not the ones to be told what to believe. We've researched and looked for ourselves. "Education" is a helluva drug; we know we've been lied to, but we still look for truth from the outside sources who lied to us like school, govt., and media.

To the flat earther, I pose the question: If all MSM came on tomorrow and stated, "We have, under the instruction of a world-wide government, been lying to you about everything forever and the world is actually flat.", what would your reaction be?
Maybe at first one may feel validated, but how long would that last? I can't conceive of a person who doesn't have a whole new slew of unanswered questions after that. Where does it end?

I stopped waiting for anyone to tell me what's going on. I'll perceive it on my own, and I may very well be wrong, but at least I took responsibilty for myself.

*Please, before responding with evidence I have already digested, know that I subscribe to no shape. Thank you.

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-03-02 19:31:25
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I stopped waiting for anyone to tell me what's going on. I'll perceive it on my own, and I may very well be wrong, but at least I took responsibilty for myself.

As i've said more than a few times, I have no clue about whatthe shape of earth is nor if it has a shape. all the demonstrable behaviour of contained water does is show that there is some form of container.
We are all the only scientist we need and this shitshow of a system with it's constant stream of lies about everything we get told is going on 'in the world' and 'that's just they way it is' to me is there purely to prevent exploration of our environment.
With the ball theory they have instilled an idea of a finite entity that people are used to seeing all around. Cricket ball, beach ball, globe one can pick them up spin them round and determine for ourselves they are indeed a ball and we can 'discover' all of it with eyes and hands.
This then is applied to 'earth' people stop expoloring stop enquiring and go full on head down arse up till the day they die.

Then come the flat earth people who are also lying just like the globe earth people. They constantly attack the globe people's obvious lies and the globe earth liars attack the flat earth liars. Playing for the same team has crossed my mind more than once when noticig these utterly pointless exchanges wherever they manifest.

Concavity MAY exlain the container but the idea that contained water can hold its own weight up the sides of a container is disproved by filling a glass, then a washing up bowl, then a bath, then a swimming pool, then a dock and on and on. Every time the water does not rise up as the concave theorists suggest.

All boils down to theory save for me the observation of the behaviour of substance and the noticing and accepting the way my conicall vision delivers a picture of what it is seeing that has no bearing in tangible realitu. No train tracks converge at a vanishing point yet my vision presents a picture of them doing preciesly that.
The width of my conical vision is always, always level. It is the one thing my eyes do which is used by my brain to estyablish which way up my body is.

So I like you am sick of he merry go round of theory of this theory of that and would love nothing more to head off unrestricted by anything, rules, laws, nations, countries, guns, supplies, LIES and find out if there is any boundary to earth and if there is what it is or if it's not possible to get to the boundary that would do equally as well because the shape of the earth is fundamental to me getting closer to what I am, where I am, why I am and why I am where I am. Bugger the sky and the luminaries they do not define the thing it walk on.
Stolen history is just another way in which we are preventing ourselves and being prevented from wandering around just to see what's there.
The beauty of investigating stolen history and not bulling mine host up but THANKYOU, with this crew of maignants is the lies are becoming easier and easier to notice and move beyond.

We are not expert we are perfect. We are all the scientist we need when we get out of our own way and stop pretending some bugger else has an answer.
Sorry just had to get that all down for some reason and bugger the typo's!

 

[fabiorem]

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Username: fabiorem
Date: 2020-03-02 19:45:03
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I just need to add out that Ptolemy and Tycho Brahe also assumed the Earth to be round, not just Copernicus. Their tracts were formulated at rough the same time: 15-16th century.
Kepler edited the Almagest to make it looks like it was written in ancient times, so people associated geocentrism with flat Earth, which is false.
So all the three models conforms to a round Earth: geocentric (ptolemaic), heliocentric (copernican) and geo-heliocentric (tychian).

 

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Username: blighty1
Date: 2020-03-02 19:50:44
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"because the shape of the earth is fundamental to me getting closer to what I am, where I am, why I am and why I am where I am. "
For a working model, using real world data (its not the pizza map, azimuthal equidistant, AZ ) look at FPV Angel yt channel and the work they have shown for an understanding of what is said above

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-03-02 19:56:14
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I just need to add out that Ptolemy and Tycho Brahe also assumed the Earth to be round, not just Copernicus. Their tracts were formulated at rough the same time: 15-16th century.
Kepler edited the Almagest to make it looks like it was written in ancient times, so people associated geocentrism with flat Earth, which is false.
So all the three models conforms to a round Earth: geocentric (ptolemaic), heliocentric (copernican) and geo-heliocentric (tychian).

There you have it. More bloody theory. said to be from long dead people with no knowing if any of them actually lived, wrote what is claimed, did anything it is claimed they did yet people would rather trust the written word and ignore their senses.

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2020-03-02 20:06:53
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everything we get told is going on 'in the world' and 'that's just they way it is' to me is there purely to prevent exploration of our environment.

I just need to add out that Ptolemy and Tycho Brahe also assumed the Earth to be round, not just Copernicus. Their tracts were formulated at rough the same time: 15-16th century.

It makes sense, in this realm, to look outside of ourselves for answers, but when one takes into account this realm is senseless, looking inward is what makes the most sense.

For me, the exterior points to the interior. Macro to the micro.



What is outside is what is inside, whether we can see it or not. As above, so below.

Looking outside is looking inside, and whatever one chooses to experience, he will.

 

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Username: Banta
Date: 2020-03-02 20:33:32
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I think the whole activity is mostly frustrating because we were all raised to believe the shape of the earth was (1) a valid question (2) that had been solved. Makes it very hard to accept even just the possibility it's beyond the abilities of humans to ever prove, one way or another. To some, that's maybe giving up or being tricked into ignorance, but I enjoy floating in the possibilities.

Until, again, I can get an airship and head for Antarctica! (Which is less about proving shape and more about wondering if there's more hidden land.)

 

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Username: andym
Date: 2020-03-02 23:49:57
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i can't find the original, but there's a meme that does something like this:

they want you to focus on this:



so you don't focus on this:

 

[Mabzynn]

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Username: Mabzynn
Date: 2020-03-03 01:42:07
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There you have it. More bloody theory. said to be from long dead people with no knowing if any of them actually lived, wrote what is claimed, did anything it is claimed they did yet people would rather trust the written word and ignore their senses.

Good question... When did Tycho live?

 

[Bunnyman]

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Username: Bunnyman
Date: 2020-03-03 03:23:42
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Until, again, I can get an airship and head for Antarctica! (Which is less about proving shape and more about wondering if there's more hidden land.)

Funny you should bring this up. @Searching knows what I mean. But yes for me too. Its all about the urge and inner feeling that I want to "break free" from this realm that obviously by many and in various ways has been described as an enclosure of some sort.

 

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Username: NovaFeedback
Date: 2020-03-03 08:30:55
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i can't find the original, but there's a meme that does something like this:

they want you to focus on this:

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so you don't focus on this:

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They're both totally wrong and just pain absurd. No "flat earther" believes in a disc suspended in space! No "flat earther" believes in space!

It's either an infinite plane, with much more land all around us, or an enclosed earth.

Possibly both, an infinite plane, on which there are many enclosed world, the "barrier" being the so-called Van Allen belt...

P.S. I don't believe there is all this ice around us and between worlds...
Moreover, the "barrier" could not be fixed and there forever, maybe it regularly open up and that could explain many things like strange creatures, or the different impossible DNA of some races, or the RH negative factor, etc. etc.

 

[codis]

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Username: codis
Date: 2020-03-03 09:47:14
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They're both totally wrong and just pain absurd. No "flat earther" believes in a disc suspended in space! No "flat earther" believes in space!

It's either an infinite plane, with much more land all around us, or an enclosed earth.

Possibly both, an infinite plane, on which there are many enclosed world, the "barrier" being the so-called Van Allen belt...

First, I understand that those statements do not explicitly state you are advocating FE.
But :

... or an enclosed earth

What is surrounding earth, then ?
Where does this surrounding end, and what is beyond it ?

It's either an infinite plane, with much more land all around us ...

So, a round trip should not be possible then.
I think a cruise trip or a charter aircraft are feasable ways for the inquisitional mind to settle this issue.
And way below the Mad-Mike rocket project expenditures.

 

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Username: NovaFeedback
Date: 2020-03-03 10:00:43
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First, I understand that those stgatements do not explicitly state you are advocating FE.
But :
What is surrounding earth, then ?
Where does this surrounding end, and what is beyond it ?

So, a round trip should not be possible then.
I think a cruise trip or a charter aircraft are feasable ways for the inquisitional mind to settle this issue.
And way below the Mad-Mike rocket project expenditures.

Circumnavigation east to west is totally possible and has been done many times, a north to south circumnavigation is impossible and has never been done, it's not like you go south, reach a south pole and then you're going north again like in the ball earth model, so...

While we're here, an enclosed dome/barrier totally explains the southern constellations and "south pole" star(s) being just a reflection of "northern hemisphere" stars.

One should investigate the possibility of the southern constellations just being a mirror reflected image of the northern ones, definitely.
P.s. mad max was just a psy-op to discredit "flat earthers", none in his right mind would have done such a stupid thing, when you can send a high altitude balloon and get actual footage without risking his life in a death trap trip.

 

[fabiorem]

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Username: fabiorem
Date: 2020-03-03 10:46:45
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i can't find the original, but there's a meme that does something like this:

they want you to focus on this:

View attachment 41917

so you don't focus on this:

View attachment 41919

One reason why I'm not into the geocentric model is that I cant conceive these virus and vaccines as something made by humans. After I read about the link between the coronavirus and 5G, the milimeter wave and electroporation, I'm not sure the purpose of those laboratories are only plain greed and/or influence. There is something else behind it, a agenda which would change the way we look at genetics. Maybe an ongoing invasion from aliens.
Corpses pilling on the streets, people falling dead in subways, mutants agonizing and attacking people in bursts of rage, giant 5G antennas spread at each quarter, these images invaded my mind as a possible future in case the reset is real, and China would be just a training ground for it.

If geocentrism was real, Earth would be the center of the universe, as the center wont have rotation, being the magnet around which everything moves. Then the universe would be a closed model, maybe with the Earth being a sphere within a sphere. Not much space for aliens there.

 

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Username: Dorothy
Date: 2020-03-03 12:29:40
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If we have crushed the FE & Ball so called facts and left with no shape, for me we're into Perception and Dimension al la String another theory. Mind stretching.

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-03-03 12:58:52
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Circumnavigation east to west is totally possible and has been done many times,

But has it.?
A ship sailing due east or due west from any port and not veering off course will smack into land at some point on its journey back to its point of origin. Whether it it is sailing around a ball or across a disc makes no difference to the outcome.

 

[codis]

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Username: codis
Date: 2020-03-03 13:03:17
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But has it.?

Try the aircraft option, ideally non-stop.

 

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Username: NovaFeedback
Date: 2020-03-03 13:05:07
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But has it.?
A ship sailing due east or due west from any port and not veering off course will smack into land at some point on its journey back to its point of origin. Whether it it is sailing around a ball or across a disc makes no difference to the outcome.

something like this: