Questionable Ancient Egypt megathread

[trismegistus]

Many of you have made it here after listening to my appearance on The Higherside Chats with Greg Carlwood. In that interview we went briefly into a discussion on how Egyptology is a controlled psyop created by Napoleon and his merry band of Maltese Jesuits. I reached this conclusion in no small part from the many threads contributed to this site, and I thought a megathread could benefit those who seek to know more, or to open the floor for questions on this topic. remember that searching through the archived replies is recommended.

• SH Archive - Did Napoleon build the Great Egyptian Pyramids?
• Khedive period architecture in Cairo, Egypt
• SH Archive - Battlefield Egypt
• SH Archive - Ancient Egypt Discussion
• The relocation of the Abu Simbel temples - Egypt
• Is the city of Fayum the reason for the presence of Pyramids and Obelisks in Piranesi's engravings?
• Lost now found 3000 year old Golden City, Egypt again. Who says so?
• ZIP - Geopolymer evidence at pyramids (photo library)

In short - the history of Ancient Egypt has been highjacked by gatekeepers for the last 200 years. It is extremely difficult to determine what can be confirmed in the historical record - as historical forgery often leads to monetary gain. When a country's major export to humanity is a historical narrative you can be assured that they will ensure that they manage to stay relevant. Alternative archeologists/journalists like Graham Hancock and Robert Shoch have created a tension among those who are interested in Egyptology to demand more answers from these gatekeepers, but in many cases we appear to be just as much in the dark as we were before their work. The only difference I see now is that the current state of mainstream Egyptology is one of desperation - they know that the "answers" they have been sitting on for many generations is crumbling around them, and they are in a mad scramble to stay relevant. This, in my opinion, has led to them either revealing discoveries they have been hesitant to reveal in the past due to their potential narrative-breaking existence, or manufacturing fake history to an extent that hasn't been seen since the middle ages when monks were rewarded handsomely to copy pagan scrolls.



Egypt unearths trove of artifacts, 250 mummies in ancient necropolis
This article I saw today was actually the inspiration to create this thread.

Among the treasures were 250 sarcophagi — or painted coffins — with well-preserved mummies inside, unearthed during recent excavations at a burial ground outside Cairo, said Mostafa Waziri, the secretary general of Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities.

250 is an absurd amount of Sarcophagi - the numbers they find in these "discoveries" seems to increase every time they want to grab headlines.

“In one of the wooden sarcophagi, we found, for the first time, a complete and sealed papyrus,” he told reporters at a makeshift exhibit Monday. The document was immediately moved to a museum for further study. Waziri said he believed it was similar to those found 100 years ago that discuss the Book of the Gates and the Book of the Dead. Both are ancient Egyptian funerary texts.

The dig also uncovered 150 bronze statues of Egyptian deities and instruments used for rituals dating back to the Late Period of ancient Egypt, about 500 B.C., said Waziri, who led the archaeological mission.

Again, another perfect example of gatekeeping. They'll show you a few photos of some Sarcophagi, but where is a photo of the papyrus? Where are these bronze statues? Are we not worthy enough to see these discoveries? Do they even exist?

The Egyptian government is hoping a spate of recent archaeological discoveries will help revive the country’s tourism industry, bringing much-needed foreign currency and creating new jobs.

Egypt’s tourism-dependent economy has suffered in the past decade from the political chaos that developed after the 2011 Arab Spring. Lately, it has been hit by the coronavirus pandemic, which curbed global travel, and the war in Ukraine; Russia and Ukraine are usually big sources of tourists for the country.

As an Egyptian, it deeply saddens me that my home country has resorted to cheap tactics in order to draw tourists and revenue.

In February last year, archaeologists found 16 human burial chambers at the site of an ancient temple on the outskirts of the northern city of Alexandria. Two of the mummies had golden tongues, which Egyptian Antiquities Ministry officials said were to allow them to “speak in the afterlife.”

That same month, a massive 5,000-year-old brewery — believed to be the world’s oldest — was discovered in the southern city of Sohag. The beer, researchers hypothesized, was used in burial rituals for Egypt’s earliest kings.

In April last year, archaeologists announced they had unearthed a 3,000-year-old “lost golden city” in the southern city of Luxor, a discovery they said could be the biggest since the tomb of the boy king Tutankhamen.

Three massive and major discoveries all within a few months of each other, during a time when tourism was at an all time low. Is this just coincidence? It seems strange to me that if the Egyptology departments are having a hard time getting money to perform additional research that they just so happened to make all these discoveries during that time.

 

[Quiahuitl]

I have been to Egypt twice and received guided tours with official tour guides, who are required by law to have a degree in Egyptology from the University of Cairo. That's what I was told.

The conventional narrative says that what remains of ancient cities like Luxor which is visible to tourists now is only a tiny fraction of what once existed. That's said to be true in two ways -

1) In places like Luxor and the Giza pyramids that you can visit, you are seeing less than 10% of what was once there. There used to be massive cities built around those places much bigger than you can imagine and maybe bigger than present day cities.

2) The places that you can visit, like Luxor and Giza, are not the biggest complexes that existed in antiquity. To use an analogy, it's as if you could visit Philadelphia, Newark and St Louis, but no trace remained of New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.

So it's reasonable for them to make massive discoveries, and we should hope they make even much bigger discoveries as well.

 

[trismegistus]

The conventional narrative says that what remains of ancient cities like Luxor which is visible to tourists now is only a tiny fraction of what once existed. That's said to be true in two ways -

1) In places like Luxor and the Giza pyramids that you can visit, you are seeing less than 10% of what was once there. There used to be massive cities built around those places much bigger than you can imagine and maybe bigger than present day cities.

2) The places that you can visit, like Luxor and Giza, are not the biggest complexes that existed in antiquity. To use an analogy, it's as if you could visit Philadelphia, Newark and St Louis, but no trace remained of New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.

I don't doubt this at all - as a matter of fact I am strongly in the camp that there is much more to be found. My major issue with these discoveries is the manner in which they are being presented.

1. Why is it that all of these discoveries are revealed in rapid-fire succession just as tourism was taking a nosedive due to covid restrictions? I would argue that they have been sitting on many "discoveries" such as this for a long time, keeping it to themselves for whatever reason until the government has allowed them to release the info to the greater public in order to stir up tourism.
2. Where is the transparency in their discoveries? At this point considering they are apparently starved for attention - what would be the harm in showing scans of papyrus, or photos of all the statues? Why do we only get hundreds of wooden painted boxes? Where are the LIDAR scans of the new Luxor city they unearthed? Do we have to fly across the world to see it in their museums? Do we have to be an approved academic and pay large sums of money for access to their research? Do we have to wait five years for Discovery channel to film a documentary special about it? (note: this isn't an issue specific to Egyptology - this is the state of ancient archeology in any country)
3. They are so quick to assign dates and names to these discoveries - barely out of the ground and they already know exactly which dynasty and time period they are assigned to. What is their methodology? After all - their methodology still claims that the pyramids were built by the pharaohs that carved their name in the entranceway - as if I were to graffiti a structure and 1000 years later the attribution of who built the structure is me because I put my name on it.
4. How do they know for certain that the infrastructure surrounding the alleged sarcophagi was built by the very same people that are buried in there? What is the explicit connection between what we know as the Egyptian culture and the megaliths found in Egypt?

 

[Quiahuitl]

My understanding is that the great pyramid of Cheops was so-named because the first Western explorer to go in there found Cheops' name written in chalk. (From Graham Hancock).

But the way our system works is, once a conventional narrative has been established, you have to prove an alternative explanation, even if the conventional narrative is absurd.

 

[Six]

I think this will definitely help you to grasp some sense of the why, how, who.
We The Scythians, The Lie in the Land of Ægypt
It is clearly a must read. Please have a look @trismegistus

 

[Udjat]

I have wanted to be an Egyptologist since the 6th grade and I am know forty-six years of age. This "obsession" I have had has never gone, and never will. I think it is important to look past the "discoveries" sort of. Your main focus should be the earth. What does the landscape tell us. There is a story line, but you must look deep. As above, so below.

You are right when you speculate that there is deception on the front line of these wonderful "ancient" sites.
And I would like to validate your point with this bit of information. We all know the infamous Dr. Zahi Hawass, and yes, he is part of the disguise. But I would like to tell you how he got there. Interestingly enough, the Edgar Cayce foundation found Hawass when he was young and picked Hawass to be the spokesperson for the Egyptian Antiquities. The foundation paid his way through schooling in America, and so he was then on his way. As time passed Hawass was put in the position of head of Egyptian Antiquities. When the Edgar Cayce foundation sent a few people over to Egypt to do some archaeology work, these folks came upon a wonderful find. It was the Osiris Shaft of Tomb. Hawass took full credit for the find and basically told the Edgar Cayce foundation to scram. Even on live television this scoundrel took full credit.

You ask yourself, "that was just Hawass, how many other people have been lying all these years?". LOTS and LOTS!!!!

Another place to look for answers is in the Kushite peoples.

And for the pyramids and shafts of the Egyptian necropolis, I don't think I have enough time in one sitting to tell all of my thought and theories. But, the Osiris Shaft (tomb) is of great significance in the great scheme of things. I think it is also important to mention that I believe this place once looked very different, but the normal person doesn't see this. This place was full of vegetation, water, and water travel, and had much flora and fauna, enough to be self sufficient on a grand scale. The Nile river ran a completely different course.

One more thing I find very interesting is the story of Hiram Abiff. There is soooooo..... much more!!!

 

[trismegistus]

But the way our system works is, once a conventional narrative has been established, you have to prove an alternative explanation, even if the conventional narrative is absurd.

And therein lies the problem with gatekeeping. They offer an absurd explanation and promote it for multiple generations - then when fresh eyes approach the topic they begin finding all the holes in the theories and are now expected to come up with an "answer" that perfectly satisfies not only the mainstream but also the alternative spaces.

The main issue in establishing a theory is that we are not allowed to perform our own investigations at the sites. Sure you can pay a few guards an extra few months salary to have access to the pyramids, but that is about the extent to which an amateur could possibly explore. See how long you can get away with a shovel near the legs of the sphinx before you have a few assault rifles pointed in your face. We will never have access to certain artifacts to confirm their legitimacy or investigate a potential forgery. They expect answers from the alternative community while simultaneously guarding all of their precious discoveries. That said, I have a few thoughts on the matter.

• The megalithic structures are part of a global civilization that lived ???? years ago. Their work can be found in Egypt, all over North America, China, India, and Europe - to name a few.
• The ancient egyptian culture is a consequence of settling in the lands of the megaliths IE they showed up after they were built - similar to the civilizations in South America that claim the same about their megaliths.
• Over the years many civilizations have made their signature changes to these structures. Renovations, overhauls, teardowns, any number of changes have been made depending on who is in charge.
• This includes the French - while I wouldn't go so far as to say that Napoleon built the pyramids - I think its very plausible that they manufactured many forgeries to create an "egyptian aesthetic" - including but not limited to hieroglyphs, paintings, sarcophagi, and other artifacts.
• We are far past the point of understanding what the pyramids were truly for - just like how we lost the capability of understanding how other old world tech was used (star forts/cymatics/aetheric energy) because we likely lack critical pieces of the puzzle - whether that is through robbery, destruction, or purposeful obfuscation it hardly matters. But to me it seems like these structures are similar in design to the aforementioned cymatic/aetheric tech.

 

[Quiahuitl]

The building of the pyramids (Which should properly be called 'Temples') in Mexico can be dated via the Mexican calendar, which has cycles of 6500 years each with a given name. The Temples were said to be built during the 'Jaguar Sun' which was from 19500 years ago to 13000 years ago. The culture that built them was said to have become obsessed with power and destroyed itself. The oral tradition states that Man became turkeys.

 

[trismegistus]

The culture that built them was said to have become obsessed with power and destroyed itself. The oral tradition states that Man became turkeys.

I think this is an important point that isn't discussed enough. High technology utilizing aetheric principals does not implicitly mean that the society was part of a peace loving and rational society, much to the chagrin of the new age crowd. After all - a smartphone is a technical wonder that would be the envy of any previous society - but it goes without saying that we live in a corrupted power hungry society filled with psychopathic rulers regardless of the exotic tech that is in our pockets. Technology can be used for horrible things - subjugation, warfare, and subterfuge, among many other purposes. It is a logical fallacy to assume that the ancient's ability to harness aetheric principals implies they were a fair and just society. There is a reason a common trope in science fiction is the brilliant scientist who wants to use their technology for good, and ends up getting taken advantage of by higher powers to create weapons of war and control.

 

[TheHangedMan]

I think this is an important point that isn't discussed enough. High technology utilizing aetheric principals does not implicitly mean that the society was part of a peace loving and rational society, much to the chagrin of the new age crowd. After all - a smartphone is a technical wonder that would be the envy of any previous society - but it goes without saying that we live in a corrupted power hungry society filled with psychopathic rulers regardless of the exotic tech that is in our pockets. Technology can be used for horrible things - subjugation, warfare, and subterfuge, among many other purposes. It is a logical fallacy to assume that the ancient's ability to harness aetheric principals implies they were a fair and just society. There is a reason a common trope in science fiction is the brilliant scientist who wants to use their technology for good, and ends up getting taken advantage of by higher powers to create weapons of war and control.

Exactly. Admittedly I am only just beginning to grasp the main theories concerning our hidden history , but the assertion that many make that it was peacefull & harmonious I've always been sceptical about , wondering what makes them think that . Martial images are often depicted in the old world structures also I thought . However I might be displaying my ignorance & am more than willing to be shown the rationale behind the claims .

 

[trismegistus]

but the assertion that many make that it was peacefull & harmonious I've always been sceptical about , wondering what makes them think that

This is definitely something worth unpacking - though perhaps further discussion on this thread would be inappropriate. However - there is something somewhat related to this that is connected to the Egyptian story.

Stargate (film) - Wikipedia

In the film Stargate a group of soldiers travel through a portal that brings them to a distant planet ruled by what we know as "Egyptian gods". The commoners on the planet speak ancient egyptian, which allows James Spader to communicate with them. To skip ahead - the climactic scene involves the soldiers and the commoners to rise up against their super-advanced "Egyptian" demigod overlords.


View: https://youtu.be/Z-hoEoga8no


Assuming the pyramids and other megalithic structures are indicative of exotic tech in a high society, combining that with the overwhelming imagery of the Egyptian gods - I would argue that their depiction in Stargate may not be that far off from the truth, at least at one point in time.

 

[TheHangedMan]

This is definitely something worth unpacking - though perhaps further discussion on this thread would be inappropriate. However - there is something somewhat related to this that is connected to the Egyptian story.

Stargate (film) - Wikipedia

In the film Stargate a group of soldiers travel through a portal that brings them to a distant planet ruled by what we know as "Egyptian gods". The commoners on the planet speak ancient egyptian, which allows James Spader to communicate with them. To skip ahead - the climactic scene involves the soldiers and the commoners to rise up against their super-advanced "Egyptian" demigod overlords.


View: https://youtu.be/Z-hoEoga8no


Assuming the pyramids and other megalithic structures are indicative of exotic tech in a high society, combining that with the overwhelming imagery of the Egyptian gods - I would argue that their depiction in Stargate may not be that far off from the truth, at least at one point in time.

I know that film & you may be right. I always felt at ease with the idea of the pyramids raising the vibration of the surroundings ,using chi or prana , that though implies a benevolent original builders but like you say the good guys have often been usurped .
As a side note I once saw Horus in a D.M.T. trip , not unlike the realisations of the Gods in Stargate or The Mummy e.t.c. , a totally viable realistic entity .He had a powerfull dignity , quite a positive vibe really .I've not seen him since but keep trying

 

[Udjat]

I also have seen that movie in my earlier years, several times. Total B movie, but concept very intriguing. Also the fifth element comes to mind.

I don't want to characterize a civilization that I was not a part of as evil right yet. I think again, here is a situation where a certain person or persons are a patsy. Maybe the personification of these people is falsely generated so as to keep people away and make this civilization seem weird, out of touch, and irrelevant, to our lives in the now.

I would also like to mention that I am a big fan of thinking that these monuments are mechanical. I can't help it, especially noticing, long ago, the cog wheel that is right above the "main entrance", which is not really the main entrance. It is a cog wheel frozen in time right before every single tourist's eyes. I find it almost amusing, and at the same time very frustrating.

The Osiris shaft or tomb, is of very big importance, especially if you know a thing or two about the schematics, inside the great pyramid and underneath it. I have looked for specific video docs on youtube, about the Osiris tomb, but have been unable to find one now adays that showed the Osiris shaft without water totally submerging it in its base. Now you can laugh or dismiss my theory if you will, but I believe this is part of a great machine, interconnected or in conjunction with the plateau above it, that transports or receives things, beings, or what have you intergalactically. There are things in this tomb that also reveal quite a bit more.

When you look at this area of the world you will notice that something happened, something on a huge scale and something that singed the earth.

 

[trismegistus]

Many infamous characters have made their name in the Egyptian megaliths over the years...

Aiwass (Aiwaz) Imposing entity who dictated to Aleister Crowley The Book of the Law, Crowley’s most significant magical work. Crowley considered Aiwass to be his Holy Guardian Angel, or divine Higher Self, acting as intermediary for higher beings such as the Secret Chiefs, superhuman Adepts of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn...

On April 7, 1904, Aiwass commanded that the drawing room of the Cairo apartment leased by the Crowleys had to be turned into a temple. Aiwass ordered Crowley to enter the temple precisely at noon on the next three days and to write down exactly what he heard for precisely one hour.

Aleister Crowley and the "Sirians"
Thelemapedia: The Encyclopedia of Thelema & Magick | Aiwass

As a side note I once saw Horus in a D.M.T. trip

I wonder if some of these aforementioned occultists and tricksters have in part manifested these entities we now call "Horus" or "Bast" or "Aiwass". If these are places of supreme spiritual energy then perhaps people seek it in order to harness and control it.

Napoleon Bonaparte's Nightmare Vision Inside The Great Pyramid - Ancient Pages

EDIT

Reading through some more of the archived napoleon thread. I completely forgot about the fourth pyramid. The YT link korben provided is long gone, but I did find one channel that discusses it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH4QUMhP-w4

Travels in Egypt and Nubia. : Norden, Frederik Ludvig, 1708-1742 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

If this Danish captain who predates Napoleon not only saw the pyramids, but saw four of them - then is it possible that Napoleon had a hand in its destruction? If there were four pyramids originally - you can completely throw out the Orion new-age babble associated with the pyramids.

We also have a large-scale destruction event a few decades afterward...

1754 Cairo earthquake - Wikipedia

 

[Quiahuitl]

Every city in ancient Mexico / Guatemala was laid out to mirror the stars.

The first time I went to Mexico in 2015 I experienced a remarkable piece of synchronicity. As we were nearing our destination the Captain piped a television program into the PA. An 18 year-old had made a discovery - the layout of known cities and ruins on the ground corresponded precisely to the map of stars in a particular part of the Heavens.

Subsequently researchers were able to overlay the star map onto areas of unexplored rain forest, and by focussing their efforts onto places indicated by the star map, they were able to discover many new abandoned sites.

My Mexican teachers say 'We know. We've been telling them this for years, but they wouldn't listen to Us.'

In fact one of my teachers attends ceremonies annually at certain villages in the mountains to celebrate their connection to their star. He talks about how the residents of this group of villages all know which stars their villages are related to.

 

[Udjat]

The Giza Plateau is also configured with the stars up above its plateau. And I am sure if you calculated it correctly the surrounding cities probably align with the stars as well.

It's almost like that tribe in Africa the Dogon Tribe, that know about the star Sirius B. No human can see it with the naked eye. How did these people know about this?

How do the Native Americans, Native Mexicans, Native South Americans, Africans, etc. know about all of these star alignments before the modern times. Because they were taught by someone or something.

I don't know much about the Napoleon times and what his agenda was, but for the most part I can say, Egypt has been revered for thousands of years. They must have something to say. I wanted to point out also, a theory I have is somewhat like the movie "Twelve Monkeys" . Maybe there is time travel to be had and we have been visited not by aliens, but by time travelers.

On my travels through the gargantuan amount of information on the pyramids through the years I have notice a connection. the pursuit for RESURECTION, this holy grail, fountain of youth etc., kind of thing that everyone is looking for from the Egyptians. Maybe some think they'll be transported to Zep Tepi.

Has anyone here heard of the connection with Seqenenre Tao or some would say Hiram Abiff. Supposedly Seqenenre had the knowledge of resurrection. At this time the Hyksos were trying to control Egypt and the leader of the Hyksos, Apepi or Apophis, wanted the answers to resurrection which Seqenenre denied Apophis. Apophis was upset and then wanted Seqenere dead, which is what happened. Apophis never learned the secret. Some say Jesus was in Egypt as well, maybe Seqenenre and Jesus have a connection, I don't know, but whatever it is people are willing to do what ever it takes to have their hands on Egypt and its secrets.

I would also like to point out that there was a huge asteroid that was coming toward us at one point in the recent past, 2009 and 2013, which if it hit the earth would have devastated us and the name of it was low and behold "Apophis". Pretty weird. Or perhaps, pretty Masonic. Or this is the evidence that there is or has been time travelers all along. Maybe time travel isn't easy as we would like to fantasize about. I don't think you hop in a Delorean and your off.

Also I just wanted to say that the Giza Plateau used to look very different than it does today. It used to have lots of vegetation, and the Nile runs today, a very different course. The Nile would come all the way up to the pyramids and inundate the valley floor, making water travel possible. I have always gotten upset when archaeologists say that their boats were just buried for the dead and they were more of a funerary blessing for the pharaohs. You don't build causeways just for metaphors. I envision the Giza complex and probably many more cities along the old route of the Nile, to look sort of like Angkor Watt.

Just sayin!!!!

 

[trismegistus]

Egypt has been revered for thousands of years.

Since this is a thread on questioning the Egyptian narrative I will continue to play the Devil's advocate here.

My thoughts on this echo this comment by Korben but I will summarize here.

Where is the primary evidence that the Egyptian culture was revered thousands of years ago? The ancient accounts they claim to have barely exist - seriously do try and find the primary evidence of Herodotus discussing Egypt. I think you'll have a hard time with it because the connections are tenuous at best.

The source I posted above is a better candidate as a primary source than a few scraps of paper that have been copied, interpreted, and manuscripted to death over hundreds or thousands of years.

Also I just wanted to say that the Giza Plateau used to look very different than it does today. It used to have lots of vegetation, and the Nile runs today, a very different course. The Nile would come all the way up to the pyramids and inundate the valley floor, making water travel possible. I have always gotten upset when archaeologists say that their boats were just buried for the dead and they were more of a funerary blessing for the pharaohs. You don't build causeways just for metaphors. I envision the Giza complex and probably many more cities along the old route of the Nile, to look sort of like Angkor Watt.

Totally agree with you there - and I think the work of Robert Shoch tends to back that up. However - exactly how long ago was it lush? 50,000 years ago? 10,000? 5,000? 500?

SH Archive - 400 year old Sahara Desert, or why people forgot everything they knew about Africa

 

[JBCalcutta]

Many infamous characters have made their name in the Egyptian megaliths over the years...



Aleister Crowley and the "Sirians"
Thelemapedia: The Encyclopedia of Thelema & Magick | Aiwass



I wonder if some of these aforementioned occultists and tricksters have in part manifested these entities we now call "Horus" or "Bast" or "Aiwass". If these are places of supreme spiritual energy then perhaps people seek it in order to harness and control it.

Napoleon Bonaparte's Nightmare Vision Inside The Great Pyramid - Ancient Pages

EDIT

Reading through some more of the archived napoleon thread. I completely forgot about the fourth pyramid. The YT link korben provided is long gone, but I did find one channel that discusses it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH4QUMhP-w4

Travels in Egypt and Nubia. : Norden, Frederik Ludvig, 1708-1742 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Giza Plateau is also configured with the stars up above its plateau. And I am sure if you calculated it correctly the surrounding cities probably align with the stars as well.

It's almost like that tribe in Africa the Dogon Tribe, that know about the star Sirius B. No human can see it with the naked eye. How did these people know about this?

How do the Native Americans, Native Mexicans, Native South Americans, Africans, etc. know about all of these star alignments before the modern times. Because they were taught by someone or something.

I don't know much about the Napoleon times and what his agenda was, but for the most part I can say, Egypt has been revered for thousands of years. They must have something to say. I wanted to point out also, a theory I have is somewhat like the movie "Twelve Monkeys" . Maybe there is time travel to be had and we have been visited not by aliens, but by time travelers.

On my travels through the gargantuan amount of information on the pyramids through the years I have notice a connection. the pursuit for RESURECTION, this holy grail, fountain of youth etc., kind of thing that everyone is looking for from the Egyptians. Maybe some think they'll be transported to Zep Tepi.

Has anyone here heard of the connection with Seqenenre Tao or some would say Hiram Abiff. Supposedly Seqenenre had the knowledge of resurrection. At this time the Hyksos were trying to control Egypt and the leader of the Hyksos, Apepi or Apophis, wanted the answers to resurrection which Seqenenre denied Apophis. Apophis was upset and then wanted Seqenere dead, which is what happened. Apophis never learned the secret. Some say Jesus was in Egypt as well, maybe Seqenenre and Jesus have a connection, I don't know, but whatever it is people are willing to do what ever it takes to have their hands on Egypt and its secrets.

I would also like to point out that there was a huge asteroid that was coming toward us at one point in the recent past, 2009 and 2013, which if it hit the earth would have devastated us and the name of it was low and behold "Apophis". Pretty weird. Or perhaps, pretty Masonic. Or this is the evidence that there is or has been time travelers all along. Maybe time travel isn't easy as we would like to fantasize about. I don't think you hop in a Delorean and your off.

Also I just wanted to say that the Giza Plateau used to look very different than it does today. It used to have lots of vegetation, and the Nile runs today, a very different course. The Nile would come all the way up to the pyramids and inundate the valley floor, making water travel possible. I have always gotten upset when archaeologists say that their boats were just buried for the dead and they were more of a funerary blessing for the pharaohs. You don't build causeways just for metaphors. I envision the Giza complex and probably many more cities along the old route of the Nile, to look sort of like Angkor Watt.

Just sayin!!!!

We also have a large-scale destruction event a few decades afterward...

1754 Cairo earthquake - Wikipedia

If this Danish captain who predates Napoleon not only saw the pyramids, but saw four of them - then is it possible that Napoleon had a hand in its destruction? If there were four pyramids originally - you can completely throw out the Orion new-age babble associated with the pyramids.

I was just getting to like the Orion belt of pyramids!

 

[Quiahuitl]

The Mexican calendar predicts cataclysmic events every 6500 years. We are right on the change between the Tecpatl sun (the last 6500 years) and the Quetzalcoatl sun, which is the new age. The previous cycle ended with flood 6500 years ago. That's sounds right to me, I've always thought the Flood was around 6000 years ago. Every civilisation on Earth says the previous world was ended by flood.

The cycle before that ended with Fire, which would have been around 13000 years ago. Fire is what destroyed the culture that built the great pyramids in Mexico, according to the oral tradition. I don't have any information about whether that was fire that rained down from the sky, volcanoes erupting or both. My intuition tells me they had so much energy tech with the pyramids and so on that the entire society spontaneously combusted. There was fire everywhere.

 

[TheHangedMan]

The Mexican calendar predicts cataclysmic events every 6500 years. We are right on the change between the Tecpatl sun (the last 6500 years) and the Quetzalcoatl sun, which is the new age. The previous cycle ended with flood 6500 years ago. That's sounds right to me, I've always thought the Flood was around 6000 years ago. Every civilisation on Earth says the previous world was ended by flood.

The cycle before that ended with Fire, which would have been around 13000 years ago. Fire is what destroyed the culture that built the great pyramids in Mexico, according to the oral tradition. I don't have any information about whether that was fire that rained down from the sky, volcanoes erupting or both. My intuition tells me they had so much energy tech with the pyramids and so on that the entire society spontaneously combusted. There was fire everywhere.

I've been following the Tzolkin calendar for about 3 or 4 years now after finding Ian Xel Lungold work & his Mayan Majix site , I absolutely swear by it . I don't know if it the same as you use nevertheless do you know what type of cataclysm is predicted this time ?