Rambling thoughts on Australia and aborigines

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Preface: etymology is important. Many things we take for granted, things that have been so since our birth all throughout our schooling (indoctrination)… things that a newcomer might question, but we obliviously accept… have clues or answers buried simply in the words we use to define these concepts.

something as simple as “discover” broken into dis and cover, simplified to un and cover… it makes sense. Discover (to find or realize, or perhaps uncover). There are many breakaways here however. I believe that words and their meanings which have been perverted over the centuries, have been done so to shroud or misdirect from the original meaning. There must be an important reason (to some) for this kind of misdirection?

on to Australia, and some of its indigenous peoples: the aborigines. Indigenous can truly only be assumed to be native at the time of recorded history. But the meaning of the word aboriginal itself…

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Ok. So with that definition in hand, if we dissect the word into subject and prefix:
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we are now left with a word that “means” the opposite of its constituent components.

absolute doesn’t mean solute, abnormal doesn’t mean normal, but aboriginal means original?

which leads me to the biggest question: is there something important to be gleaned by the aboriginals NOT being original to Australia?
 
Preface: etymology is important. Many things we take for granted, things that have been so since our birth all throughout our schooling (indoctrination)… things that a newcomer might question, but we obliviously accept… have clues or answers buried simply in the words we use to define these concepts.

something as simple as “discover” broken into dis and cover, simplified to un and cover… it makes sense. Discover (to find or realize, or perhaps uncover). There are many breakaways here however. I believe that words and their meanings which have been perverted over the centuries, have been done so to shroud or misdirect from the original meaning. There must be an important reason (to some) for this kind of misdirection?

on to Australia, and some of its indigenous peoples: the aborigines. Indigenous can truly only be assumed to be native at the time of recorded history. But the meaning of the word aboriginal itself…

Ok. So with that definition in hand, if we dissect the word into subject and prefix:


we are now left with a word that “means” the opposite of its constituent components.

absolute doesn’t mean solute, abnormal doesn’t mean normal, but aboriginal means original?

which leads me to the biggest question: is there something important to be gleaned by the aboriginals NOT being original to Australia?

Or did they mean a human almost the original, but wandered off into the distance? Should be still oroginal human though. Peoples travelled the seas mixing races when academia is still in africa unable to explane the different human races in the americas as well.
 
on to Australia, and some of its indigenous peoples: the aborigines. Indigenous can truly only be assumed to be native at the time of recorded history. But the meaning of the word aboriginal itself…


which leads me to the biggest question: is there something important to be gleaned by the aboriginals NOT being original to Australia?
It's helpful to see 'ab-origine' broken down and analysed in this way.

At about the same time supposedly 'English' explorers were ramblin and roman among the ab-origines of Australia, they were also ramblin and roman among the ab-origines of England.

Or at least one of them was:

From History of the Holy Trinity Guild Church at Sleaford, Rev George Oliver, 1837:
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and appears to intimate that it was constructed by the aboriginal

From An Account Of The Religious Houses Formerly Situated on the Eastern Side of the River Witham, Rev George J Oliver, 1846:
line 104:
APPENDIX. An Essay on the aboriginal population of

line 249:
memorial of our remote ancestors, the aborigines

line 2285:
of aboriginal Britons, who possessed defences in their

line 3076:
by the aborigines to the purposes of druidical worship.

line 7517:
nnequivocal traces of aboriginal occupancy.

line 7753:
on both sides was thickly inhabited by the aborigines ;

From The Existing Remains of the Ancient Britons within a Small district Lying Between Lincoln and Sleaford, Rev George J Oliver, 1846:
line 303:
, * Some say the aborigines of Britain had no houses or

line 988:
aborigines of Britain, and their successors, till the intro-

Line numbers are from my copy of the above files. They may differ from the online versions.

I haven't searched (grepped) for similar references in texts by other authors writing in the 1650-1850 period. Though John Byng occasionally points out that this or that eastern English local - or group of locals - he encounters are immigrants from mainland Europe.
 
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I’ve never experienced the word aborigine being used in a context other than indigenous Australian, but no component of the word itself is distinct to Australia or its people.

if the word was once applied to original/indigenous inhabitants of any place on earth, that sheds a new light on the question:

what about the original inhabitants was unoriginal? Perhaps the word is indicative of a second (or any other than the first) run of civilization? Why would this word have vanished, and why would it have “stuck” vestigially in Australia alone?

at risk of derailing my own thread, the supposition here:
Caucasian Race Analysis
That perhaps breakaway societies remained during a potential solar absence (or insert cataclysm)… there could be a meaningful distinction. The original humans followed the sun(or avoided cataclysm), and those who didn’t (or survived cataclysm) became unoriginal? When the original humans following the sun returned, those who were already there (indigenous) were no longer like the original humans, and thusly named unoriginal… to later be confused with chronological originality as perceived by generations unaware of the grand solar pursuit?

this is a house of cards built precariously upon assumptions and conjectures, but it remains the longest straw I can grasp at while trying to understand “aborigine”
 
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if the word was once applied to original/indigenous inhabitants of any place on earth, that sheds a new light on the question:

what about the original inhabitants was unoriginal? Perhaps the word is indicative of a second (or any other than the first) run of civilization? Why would this word have vanished, and why would it have “stuck” vestigially in Australia alone?

We don't know what is true about the past and what isn't true... So for the sake of argument, let's pretend the biography of Rev George Oliver is true, that he actually lived as a human and the dates of his books are correct.

If we accept this premise then we can say he lived during the transition from Holy Roman Empire's final collapse/the Napoleonic War/the Georgian to Victorian transition/the Congress of Vienna's creation of modern states, etc. Quite a fast-changing time.

We can also accept that he established the general school education system in Lincolnshire/East Midlands (as opposed to technical education) and organised getting many Lincolnshire churches built/converted. This at the behest of the Tennyson/Cheyne Row (Chelsea) set.

A culture creation job of that scale - even in rural (and industrialising) Lincolnshire - is quite a large job. It's also a job whose results are going to be passed on to future generations. He's the educational and theological equivalent of a Joseph Banks or a John Rennie (elder or younger).

So, was he the same as the aborigines he was tasked to enculturate? (Spellchecker is highlighting my word 'enculturate'. I blame a Lincolnshire education for that.)

He says - see above - 'our remote ancestors, the aborigines'. The full sentence is:
The city (he means Lincoln) is surrounded by vestiges of the
highest antiquity, in the form of stone idols and
tumuli, which are daily disappearing before the
progress of agricultural improvements ; and every
memorial of our remote ancestors, the aborigines
of the soil, will soon have entirely passed away,
and become as though they had never been.

This implies that he thinks, or knows, that he himself is descended from England's aborigines. But given the scope of his role and what we can trace of the management he was reporting to, Oliver seems to be already more enculturated, already much more educated, already trusted to spend somebody's budget on building (or converting) a lot of schools and churches. Certainly than the farmers he is moving among.

So where did he get his education? And his reputation as a trustworthy doer? (He's quite controversial among Cambridgeshire/Lincolnshire freemasons for setting up a fraudulent branch of the Masons but that's a separate issue to marketing Christianity and education into the rural masses of Lincolnshire. He does not seem to be accused of doing that fraudulently.)

He got his power from somewhere, though his biography suggests he was just a normal lad edumacated by his dad mostly - if I remember correctly.

The problems I have with the Younger Oliver educated by his dad scenario are:

  • I don't think the physical evidence supports a gradual, if swift, 18th-19th century transition from rural eastern England to industrial-in-parts eastern England. I think the physical evidence supports a depopulation event followed by slow, then ever-quickening repopulation event (visible to Stukeley, de la Pryme, Byng and, in a way, Oliver).
  • The evidence in eastern England histories - including Oliver's - and eastern England landscapes suggests 'medieval' practices and structures were operational much closer to his time than we think.
  • Also the Holy Roman Empire seems so distorted and so... diminished... in English history that it suggests folks have been fiddling with the facts to downplay Roman influence at the time.
  • There is also too much stuff that suddenly appears in the early 19th century that you would expect to have been commented upon - and actually destroyed - much earlier. Grimsby serpent mound - documented by Oliver - is one example. But the tumuli he refers to in Lincoln (and others he refers to around Lincolnshire) are others. So are large trenches that are now gone.
  • Similarly, you see a large number of near sterile elites transforming into hyper-reproductive elites. As if fertility were new. Or, perhaps, as if not eating your children was new.

I've evidenced some of these problems and speculated about better fits for the evidence in various pieces at IHASFEMR | The Reformation was a Reformatting. And IHASFEMR | Add a Thousand Years.

My suspicion is that our understanding of this era has been disabled. Specifically, we look at the era during which the aborigines of Australia were being 'discovered' - and we look at the same era when the artifacts of the aborigines of England were being documented, and we think it is the era of the Industrial Revolution. I wonder it is perhaps an era of latter-day Romans. In the references to aborigines we may be seeing the result of humans having been transported around the globe as slaves and material resources - as they seem to have been by at least the Romans. It's worth reading books like Dark Emu to appreciate that aboriginal Australia may have been - in places - a well-tended, gardened Australia when 'discovered'.

Perhaps the transportation was being done to help knock the savagery out of us and to get work done where latter-day Romans considered it needed to be done. As I pontificate about this, I recall that transportation was still being practiced as Oliver wrote. I am proposing that transportation may have started earlier than we think and that the Romans may have ended later than we think. Lionel Casson's Travel In The Ancient World is a mind-expanding orthodox display of evidence of long-distance travel and freight transportation in the orthodox Roman past.

Part of our disability may be that transport options once available in the past have been hidden from us. In addition to the many discussions of transport technology on this forum, we can add that Rev George Oliver apparently never rode a horse. Even if he had, how he got around Lincolnshire on behalf of the Tennysons - and, in my opinion, got around Devon and Yorkshire too - is its own transport technology enigma.

Turning to why Australia has aborigines and England doesn't... Possibly Australia kept its aborigines because it is so very big, so short on surface water and so very distant from sources of immigrants. Contrast that with eastern England, whose aborigines were easier to reach, to re-educate and easier to mass-immigrate over.

I've gone on... To summarise: I suspect these writers - in Australia and England - were latter-day Romans - or close descendants thereof - and they were looking at a human geography that was radically different to what we have been told it was.

Edit: Changed Treaty of Versailles to Congress of Vienna.
 
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If we accept this premise then we can say he lived during the transition from Holy Roman Empire's final collapse/the Napoleonic War/the Georgian to Victorian transition/the Congress of Vienna's creation of modern states, etc. Quite a fast-changing time.

The Congress of Vienna link you posted is interesting. Date given as 1814-15.

Meanwhile it appears Tartaria was nuked out of existence in 1816
Destruction of Tartaria

English aboriginals existed up until the land enclosure act of 1773, which empowered capitalists to purchase large tracts of land from the government then use their own private armies to clear the indigenous people. It took a full generation to achieve this, up until the early 1800s, after which they began clearing lowland Scotland.

Very interesting stuff from Usselo about large tracts of sand appearing in several places in England in the late 1600s
Especially since there's a theory about a global cataclysm that turned North Africa and Arabia into desert around c. 1600.
 
Somewhat related to this topic I remember an old episode of a podcast back in maybe 2016/17 (I think it might have been Gordon White’s Rune Soup) where they discussed Australia and Tasmania as being expertly landscaped when colonists arrived. The “bush” as it exists today is a somewhat recent development - only there because when the takeover occurred (whether through colonialism, cataclysm, or both) the knowledge of landscaping correctly was gone.

I apologize I don’t have more evidence to support this claim but that conversation stuck with me to this day. The aboriginals had a form of “bio-hacking” that created abundance and also created beauty.
 
Interesting anecdote. I wouldn’t be surprised. During my days scouring the earth for “ghost grids” I found a rather substantial one on the island of New Caledonia off the coast of Australia
 
Preface: etymology is important. Many things we take for granted, things that have been so since our birth all throughout our schooling (indoctrination)… things that a newcomer might question, but we obliviously accept… have clues or answers buried simply in the words we use to define these concepts.

something as simple as “discover” broken into dis and cover, simplified to un and cover… it makes sense. Discover (to find or realize, or perhaps uncover). There are many breakaways here however. I believe that words and their meanings which have been perverted over the centuries, have been done so to shroud or misdirect from the original meaning. There must be an important reason (to some) for this kind of misdirection?

on to Australia, and some of its indigenous peoples: the aborigines. Indigenous can truly only be assumed to be native at the time of recorded history. But the meaning of the word aboriginal itself…

Ok. So with that definition in hand, if we dissect the word into subject and prefix:


we are now left with a word that “means” the opposite of its constituent components.

absolute doesn’t mean solute, abnormal doesn’t mean normal, but aboriginal means original?

which leads me to the biggest question: is there something important to be gleaned by the aboriginals NOT being original to Australia?
Hi not only think of Australia America too.
I was astonished that the native Indians nothing know about the mood floor buildings in USA
 
if the word was once applied to original/indigenous inhabitants of any place on earth, that sheds a new light on the question:
It was:
And especially by Ephraim George Squier:
Very interesting stuff from Usselo about large tracts of sand appearing in several places in England in the late 1600s
Especially since there's a theory about a global cataclysm that turned North Africa and Arabia into desert around c. 1600.
That coversands piece is an edited version of the original Quarried Hunstanton/Desert West Norfolk post. The need to split out coversands evidence from quarrying evidence was one of the reasons I went to a different platform: presenting it needed maps and longer editing times.

I'm working on a follow up about deserts with fused glass. When researching that, the logical fallacies of desert dating become quite obvious.
 
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Preface: etymology is important. Many things we take for granted, things that have been so since our birth all throughout our schooling (indoctrination)… things that a newcomer might question, but we obliviously accept… have clues or answers buried simply in the words we use to define these concepts.

something as simple as “discover” broken into dis and cover, simplified to un and cover… it makes sense. Discover (to find or realize, or perhaps uncover). There are many breakaways here however. I believe that words and their meanings which have been perverted over the centuries, have been done so to shroud or misdirect from the original meaning. There must be an important reason (to some) for this kind of misdirection?

on to Australia, and some of its indigenous peoples: the aborigines. Indigenous can truly only be assumed to be native at the time of recorded history. But the meaning of the word aboriginal itself…

Ok. So with that definition in hand, if we dissect the word into subject and prefix:


we are now left with a word that “means” the opposite of its constituent components.

absolute doesn’t mean solute, abnormal doesn’t mean normal, but aboriginal means original?

which leads me to the biggest question: is there something important to be gleaned by the aboriginals NOT being original to Australia?
Maybe none of us are ‘original’ if we’re on a flat plane with the sun and moon system moving, freezing and thawing different parts of the plane with Australia and NZ being the first part of our known world to be uncovered and the next to freeze (see Ewaranon ‘History of a Flat Earth’). The remnants of all the subsequent disasters caused by this true climate shift would have to keep migrating as the changes arose. So we’re all migrants from way back.
 
Yes indeed. However, if we were all aboriginal, it would be a meaningless adjective or distinction. Nobody says “hey did you see that human guy do that thing?” because we’re all human. One would simply say “hey did you see that guy do that thing?” instead.

perhaps there were once originals and aboriginals, but they’ve been lost to intermingling over the centuries?

This thread:
Caucasian Race Analysis

has some interesting parallels. Are white/Caucasian people the originals? Whites seem to be, by far, the most represented globally in terms of limitlessly wealthy and powerful families.

this is not a white supremacy post, indication, etc, just riffing off stuff like this:
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I will say that I believe the true wealthiest and most powerful humans aren’t in the spotlight, they’re buying and selling these pictured stooges by the dozen
 
This time round the robber barons were white. The ironically named ‘freemasonry’ movement which involved a repossession of recently uncovered property or deliberately emptied cities so that they can own it all with a total rewriting of history in their favour ensured that no one could question their god-given right to own nearly everything and be happy. A cunning plan I’d say. Next time they may not be white but they’ll definitely be bad news unless we do something about it.
 
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