SH Archive Seattle's Elmer H. Fisher: The Man, The Myth, The Legend...

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Username: in cahoots
Date: 2018-04-27 03:03:37
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Christ man this comment gave me chills. While I was looking at some French engravings earlier I was so grateful that such cataloguing resources exist. But with information as potentially sensitive as this our very attention to it could result in it being taken down, and then, even our legitimate copies are unverifiable and therefore deniable... I mean heck, the whole issue in the first place is that information keeps disappearing!

Regardless, I'm gonna start backing up my research. Thanks for the warning
 
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Username: Arc314
Date: 2018-05-05 23:00:54
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What can one say about a "Mystery Man" who appears to of came out of nowhere,credited with miraculous abilities and then disappeared back into apparent nothingness...with
no official records of death or a grave.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-05-05 23:23:33
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Wondering how come some investigative reporter would not try to make a name for himself on this topic here.
 
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Username: Arc314
Date: 2018-05-06 00:47:25
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The only answer is unthinkable.

Historical narrative tells us EH Fisher gave up Architecture in 1891 'as the tide of reconstruction ebbed',
while others in his firm continued in Seattle and also became the main builders in Tacoma,Everett and Los Angeles.
O. B. Williams Company | John Parkinson (1861-1935)
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-05-06 02:48:47
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I'm reluctant to look into any other architects. A brief touch upon a couple predicts the same results. Yet this is what a dead end looks, and feels like.

Where to go from here?
 
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Username: 0harris0
Date: 2019-01-09 22:36:58
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@KorbenDallas, sorry to ressurect an oldie... but the differences in those Seattle Library photos are ridiculous!!!

I'd love to know what date order they're supposed to be in... shall we play?!
so, I reckon #2 must be the oldest, it has raised ground in front of the building (unless it's a rear shot and the library was perfectly symmetrical), 1 stair set and no surrounding wall...
#1 looks like they're construction the wall you see in #3
#5 still has the 1 high door (where has the lower stair set gone in the between time?!) did they dig out a huge amount of road to create whats out the front...
#4/6 are the most recent, and look similarly aged.. one is dated to 1914
so the groundworks to remove all that earth from the front, engineering to build the huge retaining platform/foundation wall thing.. all the tram lines and everything, changing the building's entrance way all happened within 8 years of opening!? while it was open! :LOL:

[pic 5 btw has a really great sneak peek into the construction methods of the building behind]
 
Let us begin by trying to understand a thing or two about the architect, Elmer H. Fisher. There has to be tons of information on the local hero-architect. He is considered the most prolific of the architects involved in rebuilding the city for designing almost half of the major downtown buildings between 1889 and 1891. It should be easy to find some information, right? So who was he? Where did he study? Where did he come from?

To be clear, I do not question his existence as a human. There are plenty of records to indicate that he existed. I merely find a lot of suspicious circumstantial evidence suggesting that quite a few of the 19th Century Seattle buildings were not built when reported. I also doubt they were built/designed by the people who allegedly authored those buildings.

Apparently, Elmer Fisher was born in Edinburgh, Scotland, around 1840. Fisher claimed to have been born in Scotland and moved to Massachusetts at age 17 where he received an architectural apprenticeship in Worcester. This now appears to be untrue according to the City of Seattle's research. He also claimed to have lived in Minneapolis, Denver and Butte before moving to the Pacific Northwest in 1886. Fisher came to Seattle in 1889 before the Great Seattle fire devastated the city. (Wikipedia).

Where did Mr. Fisher study to become an architect? The answer is we do not know. The most prolific of the architects has no traceable education history that I could find. As a matter of fact there is only one available photo of such an established figure. FYI, Photography existed for over 50 years in 1890.

FisherDWW.JPG
The only existing picture?
Now let us look at his documented architectural achievements? According to the above sources Mr. Fisher operated between 1886 and 1891. During this 5-6 year time span he designed and/or built at least 48 buildings (I think he has a few more. I did not cross reference Canadian buildings between the two sources. I simply did not count Canadian building in the Source 1): Source 1 and Source 2. Quite a pace there. It's like 8 buildings on average a year, non-stop for 6 years straight. None before 1886 and none after 1891.
  • USA: at least 26 buildings
  • Canada: at least 22 buildings
Here is what Seattle.gov Historical Site states about Elmer H. Fisher:
I am not an architect, but the achievements sound unrealistic. Let us see if Google can help: What Tools Does an Architect Use? I am not going to copy and paste the entire article. Once we take out CAD software, it leaves us with the traditional drafting board. I am sorry, have you seen some of the buildings designed by Mr. Fisher. Take a look at the design and ornaments of those buildings. Show me an architect who can do eight of those buildings a year. I do not know about plans required for the 94 foot tall building to be built in 1890, but a simple 3 story, 12 unit apartment complex in 2018 requires at least:
  • Foundation plan
  • Floor plans with electrical
  • Elevations
  • Cross sections
  • Firewall and other details
  • Roof Plan
  • Floor framing plans for each floor
  • Ceiling framing Plan
  • Rafter plan
Any architects out there? Can you match Mr. Fisher's achievements?

The END: like many other young architects of his generation, Fisher abandoned his practice in 1891 as the tide of reconstruction ebbed. He became the proprietor of the Abbott Hotel, but lost this and other real estate investments during the economic crash of 1893. Fisher’s attempts to reestablish his practice failed, both in Seattle and in Los Angeles. He died in 1905, an architectural draftsman and carpenter. (Link)

The finale is pretty said. Elmer Fisher went from designing and building structures listed as National Historic Landmarks to building chairs, tables and whatever else carpenters used to make back in the day. All of this sounds like some sad fiction novel.

Not bashing on Mr. Fisher here. It is not his fault he might have gotten appointed as the great after-fire architect. Something weird and strange is hidden in the 19th Century.
PI-Fire-1.jpg
Hidden between the Great Seattle Fire, and the speed of rebuilding, and inconsistency of damage reports (25 blocks / 33 blocks / 50 blocks / 64 blocks), and the full report about the fire published by Seattle Post-Intelligencer the very next day after the disaster, lies the mystery of the 19th century.


I shall revisit...

"Apparently, Elmer Fisher was born in Edinburgh, Scotland, around 1840. Fisher claimed to have been born in Scotland and moved to Massachusetts at age 17 where he received an architectural apprenticeship in Worcester. This now <u>appears to be untru</u>e according to the City of Seattle's research. "

Noticed another Worcester reference. This is just another classic KD...
As a former Seattlite, I always love any posts about the city. I'm pretty sure the Pioneer square building mentioned was the tallest bldg in us at one time. Always had a different vibe than other places. Also seven hills.
ps My brother lived in Worcester (wister), so I'm a bit obsessed
 
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