SH Archive Tartarian Symbols at the 1901 Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo, New York

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Username: welkyn
Date: 2019-01-14 03:35:39
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Sorry if I've missed something along the way - what is the "Quadriga", and how does it relate to Tartary? Very interested to hear about this, since I've seen similar things in the UK before (though perhaps not the same).

 

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Username: Qmeta
Date: 2019-01-14 04:17:24
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Sorry if I've missed something along the way - what is the "Quadriga", and how does it relate to Tartary? Very interested to hear about this, since I've seen similar things in the UK before (though perhaps not the same).

The Quadriga symbol is used on many Tartarian buildings around the world. Four horses (to symbolize the four ideals of the quadriga) with a griffin on top.

Much of the information that I've uncovered has been obtained metaphysically, so I won't really post that here. But the symbol itself is a part of a number of 'neo-classical' buildings and structures like Brandenburg Gate. Here's one at the now-Bolshoi Ballet in Moscow:

 

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Username: welkyn
Date: 2019-01-14 04:20:32
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Thanks for the info. I'll look around for Quadriga, both extant examples and in old photos...

 

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Username: Qmeta
Date: 2019-01-14 04:49:30
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Thanks for the info. I'll look around for Quadriga, both extant examples and in old photos...

My pleasure!

 

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Username: Ice Nine
Date: 2019-01-14 14:33:37
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Hi, we have another thread about the Pan Am Exposition in Buffalo, with lots of pictures in it too.

1901 Pan Am Buffalo and why these Pan Ams were as insane as they look

 

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Username: Qmeta
Date: 2019-01-14 15:07:09
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Hi, we have another thread about the Pan Am Exposition in Buffalo, with lots of pictures in it too.

1901 Pan Am Buffalo and why these Pan Ams were as insane as they look

Thanks. There are some good photos there.

 

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Username: trismegistus
Date: 2019-01-14 17:28:47
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Here is a photo dump of snippets from this newpaper I found, which has a 20-30 page special report on the entire expo. Highly recommend reading the whole thing, there is a ton of info to parse through. There's a ton more pictures here but I thought I'd post some of the real head scratchers.

 

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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-01-14 21:14:13
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Why do you equate everything of the old world with Tartary, a regionally confined kingdom, one of many?

 

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Username: Deleted_x7
Date: 2019-01-14 21:25:04
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Much of the information that I've uncovered has been obtained metaphysically, so I won't really post that here.

'wont really'? whats up with that?

 

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Date: 2019-01-15 02:05:17
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Here is a photo dump of snippets from this newpaper I found, which has a 20-30 page special report on the entire expo. Highly recommend reading the whole thing, there is a ton of info to parse through. There's a ton more pictures here but I thought I'd post some of the real head scratchers.

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Thanks. The first one looks very much like a griffin.

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Why do you equate everything of the old world with Tartary, a regionally confined kingdom, one of many?

And where has one 'equated everything of the old world with Tartary'?

Everything?

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'wont really'? whats up with that?

That is to say, I'm just posting things with photographic evidence.

 

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Username: Deleted_x7
Date: 2019-01-15 02:33:00
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That is to say, I'm just posting things with photographic evidence.

according to the record here so far, that is not what was written. lol

FWIW many do not automatically trust photographs, videos, hearsay, etc. without some sort of verifiable authentication.so its not as easy to accept such claims or make them either.

I am one of those folks Qmeta so please dont take it personal. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs (not evidence but Proof)

I am interested in metaphysics also, so thats another reason I asked that.

 

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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-01-15 07:32:22
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And where has one 'equated everything of the old world with Tartary'?

On your website you write of Tartary as a world spanning civilization, like you also seem to imply in this post that America was inhabited by Tartars..

 

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Username: Qmeta
Date: 2019-01-15 08:17:53
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according to the record here so far, that is not what was written. lol

FWIW many do not automatically trust photographs, videos, hearsay, etc. without some sort of verifiable authentication.so its not as easy to accept such claims or make them either.

I am one of those folks Qmeta so please dont take it personal. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs (not evidence but Proof)

I am interested in metaphysics also, so thats another reason I asked that.

No worries. And I noticed quite a number of posts with images here (and on the web in general) that were said to be photographs but were actually drawings.

I made another post about this regarding the 'Frederick Douglas' photograph, which almost everyone assumes to be a photograph but which is actually a drawing.



There are a very large number of 'photographs' of the 19th century which are purported to be evidence, but are faked. Before considering it, I always analyze it to see if it has been manipulated (or is actually a photo). I think we question the validity of photographs about the 21st century, but assume that manipulation didn't happen in much earlier time periods.

If we only posted things with proofs, this forum would be very quiet indeed

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2019-09-08 14:21:14
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Mayb

The Quadriga symbol is used on many Tartarian buildings around the world. Four horses (to symbolize the four ideals of the quadriga) with a griffin on top.

Much of the information that I've uncovered has been obtained metaphysically, so I won't really post that here. But the symbol itself is a part of a number of 'neo-classical' buildings and structures like Brandenburg Gate. Here's one at the now-Bolshoi Ballet in Moscow:

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Maybe, a few of us wouldn't mind information obtained in other ways?...
Might be the only way we can truly ILLUMINATE this dark period of our recent history. I myself am going to use things I've picked up from reading Robert Monroe's books, Gerald O'Donnells work on remote viewing and influencing, Yoga Nidra and Agni Yoga (Roerich). Hmm. Perhaps HE and SHE are a good lead...
Anyway, the VOID is calling to me LOUD and... Need to achieve some clarity...
The AKASHA.

 

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Username: inquisitor
Date: 2019-10-04 23:18:53
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A few thoughts on the quadriga. The quadriga, specifically the quadriga factilis, is one of the several symbols or pledges of rule, called Pignora imperii in Latin. The word quadriga just means "four attached [horses]" justified by "quattuor" and "iugum" and a truncation of "quadriiugum". Maybe think of it as a "quad-rig" or "four-rig". We still use the word, albeit in reverse with the trailer as the rig (because it is attached to the prime mover) instead of the prime mover. In ancient times, the rig would be the horses, attached to the car or chariot.

Some other relics which constituted the pignora imperii in addition to the Veietan quadriga included a mythical ancile or shield which fell from heaven during the reign of King Numa, who ordered eleven copies to be made so as to confound any possible thieves; the interred ashes at Aricia, of the legendary Orestes, the son of Agamemnon and Clytemnestra of Trojan war fame; the royal sceptre of King Priam; a mythical veil which was supposed to have belonged to the Trojan princess Ilione, daughter of Priam; the black stone (or needle apparently?) of the Great Mother; and the Palladium, a mythical wooden icon of the goddess Minerva, which fell from heaven during the reign of King Ilus (of Troy) and was brought to Rome from Troy. These relics were symbols of Rome's greatness and hegemony over the world. At least one of these, the Palladium, has been in regular use up until recent times as the coronation orb, which has a cross in place of the goddess Victory.

It [the quadriga] was commissioned by the last Etruscan King of Rome, Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. The legend goes, that the artisan Vulca [of Veii] was chosen to make the image and he was summoned from Veii to Rome. When he came to Rome, he placed the terracotta in the oven, and it "magically" expanded. Maybe the expansion wasn't so magical, but was the result of a technological process now lost? The quadriga was drawn by four horses and piloted by Jupiter, the finished product was mounted at the apex of the Temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus on the Capitol Hill. This sculptor, Vulca, appears to have also created a statue of Jupiter as well. The following is from the book entitled "Veii" which is edited by Jacopo Tabolli and Orlando Cerasuolo. Like most myths though, there is divergence as to what actual events may have taken place, as the historian Festus claimed per Servius, that the terracotta quadriga was brought to Rome after the city of Veii was conquered by the Romans.

Another similar-styled subject is the wheeled throne of the Great Mother (by different names Cybele, Rhea, Ops, etc.), drawn by lions. She is adorned with a mural crown. The wheels of the throne are supposed to be a reference to fortune. One of the best representations of her is found in Madrid, at the Fuente de Cibeles. A replica of the Madrilense statue can also be found in Mexico City, at the Plaza Villa de Madrid.