SH Archive The Fifteenth Deluge: 40,000 fossilized antediluvian human skeletons

[usselo]

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Username: usselo
Date: 2020-06-18 17:43:04
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Google Ngram Viewer is showing deluge peaks in books in the 1790s for french then suddenly drops off.
In English (2009) it shows a peak around 1811-1816.
American English (2012) shows a peak around the 1820's.
My thinking is that these deluges are multiple separate events.

Below is the Rev. George Oliver citing old books and papers that he said were being destroyed by the Caputs (Caputian monks). Following excerpts are from History of the Holy Trinity Guild at Sleaford (meaning: Sleaford, Lincolnshire, in the UK).

The Lincolnshire of 1836 is totally different from the same county in 1780. Heath, wold (wold=low hills) and fen have been brought into efficient cultivation since the latter period [ie 1780], by inclosures and drainages; - the face of the country has assumed a new and improved appearance; and its state when the fens were deluged with water; the wolds barren and uncultivated; and the heath overrun with rabbits, will be entirely forgotten

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Citing a text written in 1154, Oliver continues: In the twelfth century [ie 1100 to 1200]:

this fennie countrie was passing rich and plenteous, yea, and beautiful to behold; watered with many rivers running down to it; garnished with a number of meers (ie lakes) both great and small, which abound in fish and fowl; and it is firmly adorned with woods and islands.

If you look at any map of Lincolnshire from 1836 through to today, there are no lakes or islands. Just one area of marsh north east of Boston called 'The Deeps', which probably was a lake. And from an etymology of English perspective, note how the quoted English (ie the text that begins: "this fennie countrie...") is less than a century after the 1066 Norman invasion, and is neither old or middle English. Either Oliver translated it without saying so, or it simply didn't need translating.

Oliver continues, citing Stukeley's Paleog. Sacr. no. 2:

In 1178, the old sea bank broke, and the whole fen was deluged by the sea. The injury however appears to have been speedily repaired, for twenty years afterwards, according to Malmsbury circa 1200:

the fens were a very paradise, and seemed a heaven for the delight and beauty thereof.

In 1343, Oliver continues, the fen was flooded again. The years 1342/1343 are the St Mary Magdalene Flood years.

Says Oliver:

The fens continued in a state of absolute inundation down to a very recent period... and about the middle of the last century (ie approx 1750) the winter floods came on with such irresistable force that the whole fen and part of the high land became a perfect sea.

Oliver quotes the poet W. Hall's claim that there was less than 20 acres of dry land visible to the east from Lincoln south to Bourne. That would come as a shock to anyone familiar with today's Lincolnshire. He is saying that everywhere light turquoise green in the topographical map below was sea.

Summary:

Oliver dates three inundations of Lincolnshire (and implicitly, northern Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire).

His 1178 flood date is close to the 1183 date of the earthquake that severely damaged the newly-built Lincoln Cathedral (an earthquake which may have had its origins under the North Sea off the Lincolnshire coast).

His 1343 date sits square on top of the St Mary Magdalene Flood - which we only ever read about as a flood in north, eastern, and central Europe.

He hints that from approx 1750 the sea returned with a vengeance, then retreated again.

In this book (and in other books) Oliver laments that old texts are being disappeared, and new findings are being mislaid by their supposed protectors (a reference to lost research papers on geology and biology he and other members of The Lincoln Topographical Society had presented).

 

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Date: 2020-06-18 18:39:42
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Anyone think these flooding/deluges could actually be the last gasp of the Doggerland era?

 

[usselo]

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Date: 2020-06-18 19:43:02
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Anyone think these flooding/deluges could actually be the last gasp of the Doggerland era?

Yes, I think that is possible.

We are told Doggerland disappeared 8,200 to 8,500 years ago. However, many posts on the board point to evidence that we encountered various sorts of 'problems' much more recently than we have been taught.

Once you start to explore the idea that big problems have been ignored or pushed back in time, chronologies have been extended, and locations changed, it becomes possible to conceive that we are being lied to on a vast scale. Then the previously trust-based relationship with our historians starts to resemble a bad marriage: you still live under the same roof for a while, but now you pay attention to details, and to other voices. A parting of the ways begins - and completes - long before the divorce papers come through.