The Founding Fathers of the United States and the Ethno Religious State

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-07-17 01:53:21
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The funny thing is, in every non-white race, they have their own internal caste system based of lightness of skin. The Asians value pure white skin above all, considering it higher class and representing purity. They look down on their more tanned brothers. And Indian, Hispanic and Black cultures do the same.

I need to preface that I am not white (somehow that gives me more credibility and immunity).

I forgot to mention the Asians so thanks for filling in the lack.

Japanese women wear a very white makeup as a sign of beauty.

I also remember seeing an interview with a black female model who complained that her makeup artist was told to make her a darker shade for a particular photo shoot. The model was very upset and complained about it for the entire interview which I thought was weird. Then again, I rarely even notice people's color. I'd be a terrible crime scene witness.

Whatever cataclysm occurred during the last reset, Europe seems to have been less affected and took advantage of the situation.

Some of the medieval pictures show wars/battles with a very white people. Vampiric pasty white and bald. Were these Atlantean survivors who had spread across the world to rebuild civilization giving rise to the legends of white "gods"? (gods just means "mighty ones", not "divine ones"). To a post cataclysmic world, anyone kick-starting civilization would be a "mighty one".

Maybe the founding fathers were wanting to rebuild an Atlantean homeland?

Stretching my imagination here. I have no idea what they were thinking or trying to build. While we have their (alleged) words as to what they intended for religion and/or ethnicity in the new world it does seem they intended it for a moral people.

 

[Worsaae]

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Date: 2020-07-17 08:07:18
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Whatever cataclysm occurred during the last reset, Europe seems to have been less affected and took advantage of the situation.

Some of the medieval pictures show wars/battles with a very white people. Vampiric pasty white and bald.

These are sketches from the USSR to determine ethnicity. Notice the Tartarian, bald guy?
The picture is from a book by Deruzhinsky "Secret history of belarus" (Тайная история Беларуси)

Do you have any of those medieval pictures? Are they vampiric tartarians?

 

[SuperTrouper]

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Date: 2020-07-17 10:57:37
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These are sketches from the USSR to determine ethnicity. Notice the Tartarian, bald guy?
The picture is from a book by Deruzhinsky "Secret history of belarus" (Тайная история Беларуси)

Do you have any of those medieval pictures? Are they vampiric tartarians?

Wow, "Tatarin" looks like Lenin.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-07-17 11:57:03
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Do you have any of those medieval pictures? Are they vampiric tartarians?

Don't have any handy pics although I've seen a few on this site but couldn't tell you in what thread they're posted.

You can Google "Uber white people in medieval art" (or some equivalent) and lots of examples will show up.

I'm not saying those people were vampires but that they were VERY white, similar to how we depict vampires today.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Son of a Bor
Date: 2020-07-17 12:02:31
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Whenever I hear whites or Asians or anyone else go on about the intelligence of the races, ranking Blacks near the bottom of course, I think: the greatest American composers of the 20th century were Black. For example, Ellington, Monk, and Mingus. IMHO. Maybe we should rank the races in terms of vampiric tendencies...But that is another trap. For all those fellows (somewhere in their geneologies) are mixed!

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-07-17 12:33:52
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Whenever I hear whites or Asians or anyone else go on about the intelligence of the races, ranking Blacks near the bottom of course, I think: the greatest American composers of the 20th century were Black. For example, Ellington, Monk, and Mingus. IMHO. Maybe we should rank the races in terms of vampiric tendencies...But that is another trap. For all those fellows (somewhere in their geneologies) are mixed!

Too true. There was a book put out many years ago that did exactly as you describe. In an attempt to sound like scientific research, the author (whose name I couldn't be arsed to remember) described the black race as being easily manipulated and of low intelligence. Another author considered blacks to be the earliest race (child-like in intelligence) with each iteration of evolutionary change resulting in a new and smarter race. Whites were considered the latest, greatest.
All of which would be laughable if not for the actual damage caused by such inane drivel.

Africa had massive kingdoms, including Egypt that showed a high degree of sophistication.

Racism had to start somewhere and for some reason but I can't imagine what that reason would be.

Blacks are not the only race that have been discriminated against or enslaved either. I remember hearing disparaging remarks against Italians when I was young (didn't know any Italians personally) and couldn't understand why they were despised. Didn't we have a Roman empire that would be full of Romans (Italians)? Irish weren't well respected either and were also enslaved.

The whole of human history is replete with stunning stupidity. I like to think the concept of America was an attempt at a corrective adjustment to the world's stupidity but cultures don't change overnight and our progress has been painfully slow.

 

[Archive]

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Username: dejavu
Date: 2020-07-17 16:58:46
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This is a gangsta thread. Every time I try to get out of it, something pulls me back in. Me thinks there is a Darth Godfather figure behind the scenes on this one….

@Septimus and @whitewave in particular - You both bring up interesting points, imo. I don’t think I fully grasped what you were getting at with the vampiric look @whitewave, but when I read the follow up today, something struck me and I want to explore this with the group to get your perspectives.

I have often wondered about the massive shift from the Medieval/Dark Ages to the Renaissance, in terms of the complete over the top opulence that inexplicably followed such a “dark” time. (I have a theory but that’s a different thread). In that frame of reference, my mental inquiry was the grandeur and theatrical type characters that we often see depicted with these elegant fashions, make up and frivolity. It’s like someone took a literal meaning to “All the world’s a stage” and decided to put on their costumes to play their part in the historical narrative, which somehow carried over into the classical composers and even the British practice of the white wigs, imo.

In fact, I once asked my British husband and his parents about this because I wondered why people in their history wore long, often white wigs, particularly in their higher social classes, military and legal positions (judges), as if they held some sort of distinction and power more than the general formality of attire. Never got an answer beyond the standard it is associated with tradition, wisdom/authority, covering up baldness for the sake of appearance type answers but that did not seem to explain it fully in my mind, so it’s lingered.

So, when I read your comment about vampiric like white and bald, and the other comments about social classes, rulers and gods, it made me wonder if this “group” of people that we are discussing, may in fact be beyond the typical human conception in some way, shape or form, and they used these costumes and practices to try to stand out or even blend in somehow (depending on social class) to the more humans on this Earth? I may be indulging my abstract mind but is this where the true concept of white power/rule may have come from that distinguishes them (in their mind/ideology) from other white people and races? I think I am starting to get a different interpretation of the original debated idea based on what is being shared here and wondered if any of you think it may be connected somehow too.

Just exploring the possibility as I follow my thoughts.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-07-18 00:07:38
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@dejavu, interesting concept but, as I said, I have no idea how the notion of one color of people being superior to other colors of people could ever have started or why that ridiculous idea wasn't immediately squelched. Why would anyone accept that hateful opinion as true? For some reason it became a "thing" and it looks like it was tolerated, if not outright accepted. There's just no accounting for the ignorance of people in large groups.

Wish I could remember what thread those pics were in because I commented on their unusual appearance when they were posted.
We have so much medieval art depicting anomalous beings that I guess it didn't raise any red flags for anyone else.

If we had dog-headed humanoids (and it looks like we did) and mer people, it's not a stretch to have had overly white people. I've never seen any literature discussing them or their capabilities, intelligence, culture, values, etc. so, if they existed, we know literally nothing about them.

Your supposition is a good one but without documentation, we drift into the realm of speculation which is fun to think about but provides no answers. A search for the art work with any commentary or descriptions might be a good place to start an investigation.

 

[Archive]

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Username: dejavu
Date: 2020-07-18 00:24:02
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@dejavu, interesting concept but, as I said, I have no idea how the notion of one color of people being superior to other colors of people could ever have started or why that ridiculous idea wasn't immediately squelched. Why would anyone accept that hateful opinion as true? For some reason it became a "thing" and it looks like it was tolerated, if not outright accepted. There's just no accounting for the ignorance of people in large groups.

Wish I could remember what thread those pics were in because I commented on their unusual appearance when they were posted.
We have so much medieval art depicting anomalous beings that I guess it didn't raise any red flags for anyone else.

If we had dog-headed humanoids (and it looks like we did) and mer people, it's not a stretch to have had overly white people. I've never seen any literature discussing them or their capabilities, intelligence, culture, values, etc. so, if they existed, we know literally nothing about them.

Your supposition is a good one but without documentation, we drift into the realm of speculation which is fun to think about but provides no answers. A search for the art work with any commentary or descriptions might be a good place to start an investigation.

Thanks! There is so much that we don't know. I appreciate all the different views and thoughts. You never know when something is going to connect or lead us in the path to answers. I'm hopeful more will come to us along the way.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Hovdenes
Date: 2020-07-18 01:07:07
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@Hovdenes, "Now, until someone shows me in the Bible, or anywhere in all Scripture, that I, or anybody, doesn't have the right to their own homogeneous people, culture, society, and nation (or even personal preference itself), then I'm still going to prefer English-speaking, Christian European-descended peoples and cultures."

There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Gal. 3:28)

That said, Hovdenes is correct in saying that globally, whites are a minority but I'm wondering if there was, at some point in history, a dominant white culture? The reason I ask is that, with our current narrative at least (which was written by the victors), whites seem to have been conquerers and invaders wherever they went but they were also civilization builders.

(Suspect) history tells us that when the invading conquerers showed up somewhere they had to tell the indigenous people to stop practicing cannibalism, stop sacrificing their children to rocks, stop burning alive their 12 year old brides when their 90 year old husbands died, stop crippling their women with footbinding practices, etc.

Also curious is the reaction of South American people when the conquistadors showed up. They welcomed the whites, thinking them to be the gods of old who had built their civilization. Normally people equate their gods as being their same color.
Did a white culture build the Mayan and Aztec civilizations?

Also, I don't remember if it's the Navajo or Hopi that have a legend of a "white brother" who will save them in the end times. Did they encounter technologically advanced whites in their past?

Personally, I think skin pigmentation (or lack of it) is about the stupidest hill ever to die on and it's not color that divides us but ideology. Different cultures have different ideologies. I think we just need to find a common ground and stick to that.
Galatians chapter 3 is a common ground, or if you don't like the bible, there's the commonality of being American.

Whatever the intentions of the constitutional framers and forefathers, they DID give us a Constitution acknowledging our equality. I hope we can overcome the flaws of our forebears and move past the sins of our past to live in that equality.

If you're meaning Galatians 3:28 to be the proof that we do not have a right to preference in people, nor have the right to our own people, then you're misinterpreting it. If it was taken as many mistakenly imply: "That all the foundational qualities which God designed us with no longer apply," then why do those foundational qualities still ring true? Why does the New Testament and Christ Himself confirm them?

For example: Women are still weaker than men, women think differently than men, and Paul also re-confirmed God's ordainment of roles which is God>Christ>man>woman. The various races of men have different skin thickness, bone density, muscle mass, and intelligence; and try telling a slave (we can all do this in a mirror) that he/she is no longer a slave because Galatians say so - guess I can just stop paying my mortgage (death pledge).

Galatians only applies to True Christians, and, further, it only applies in the Everlasting Life - where there is also no marriage.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-07-18 01:41:08
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I could probably get into that with in depth if this site were called stolen religion but, alas, it's stolen history. Also, you might want to check out the 31 times Paul contradicted what Christ said.

 

[greatscot]

"Shariah has an ethnic and religious caste system where dhimmi can be forced to hand over up to 50% of their wealth under threat of execution, as well as having fewer rights"

I guarantee if you add up all US taxes they calculate to approximately 49% of your pay. America doesn't make any sense because it's really a caliphate masquerading as a diverse multicultural atheistic state. This is even WORSE than theocracy because then the slaves think they're free and don't try to escape

Even America's monomaniacal obsession with gay rights is just Bacha Bazi

Christ was also obviously murdered by Muslims since they still promote crucifixion TO THIS DAY for "spreading corruption in the land"

The Catholic Church is Islamic! It's primary emblem is Jesus Christ being given the death penalty for angering Allah!