The History and Culture of the Ancient Aryan Civilization

[Gladius]

If I am attacked on multiple forums, it means that they're paid trolls who are following me around and trying to discredit me, as a smear campaign.

A smear campaign? Seems you didn't pay them the ransom they asked for, as is the custom in the great Aryan Russia.

 

[Matvei]

But what did the military (Kshatriyas) of the Ancient Aryan Civilization look like?

These are ancient Russian soldiers called Bogatyr. Their uniforms consisted of a conical helmet (sometimes with wings as in this video), chain mail and/or plate armor in patches (resembling samurai armor perhaps), sometimes chain mail around the neck and/or face, sometimes with hand guards as well.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xpoU-lToYg


Notice the hand guards.

Notice the chain mail covering the face, and the shape of the sword.

This warrior's sword looks like the sword of a Sikh.

Notice the shield with four "buttons" (I don't know what the word is).

And now I present to you the uniforms of the Rajputs of Ancient India.

Notice the hand guards.

His sword is basically the same as in the picture of the Russian warrior with an Orthodox cross on his shield. But this guy is an Indian Rajput!

Notice the chain mail covering the face, and the shape of the sword.

Rajputs also had a shield with four "buttons".

 

[Matvei]

The uniform of a Sikh warrior also was chain mail.

His uniform resembles the chain mail of a Cossack.

Actually there is much to be said about Sikhs and Cossacks. What do they wear underneath their chain mail?
The Cossacks wore a lengthened coat, or "trench coat", called a kaftan, ending at the knee, or above/below the knee.

Cossacks of the Russian Empire, although they may as well be from Pakistan or North India, they look like them.

Some examples of kaftan-like clothing in India.
Replace the turban with papakha, and he looks like a Zaporozhian. I mean that he has the same style of mustache as Cossacks would have.

Actually the Sikhs wear blue kaftans underneath their chain mail.

The faces of these guys can be found in Russia. Lighter skin, but same exact face. Just replace the turbans with papakhas, and you get Russian World War 1 army guys.
Notice the swastika-looking embroidery on the wall.

Here are Cossacks in specifically blue kaftans.

The uniforms of these Indian guards look like Russian army uniforms, but adapted to a warm weather climate. The hats look like an imitation of a papakha. But actually the Russian kaftan and papakha are made of fur, and so impractical to wear in such a place as India, so alternative versions were made out of silk, keeping the same aesthetic.

 

[Matvei]

That Sikh commander above had a trident.
In India the trident is called trisula, and it is a symbol of Shiva.

In Slavic countries the trident is called trizub.
It is known in modern times as the state symbol of Ukraine.

But before the adoption of the trizub as the state symbol for the modern state of Ukraine, the trizub actually has a history in Russian culture.
It has been the symbol of the Solidarists political party in the Russian Empire.

And also it has been the symbol of the Russian Nationalists.

But actually in ancient times the trizub was the symbol of the Ancient Russian warriors.

 

[CL Cromer]

Aryan sounds like the sufix arian which indicates a person or thing that advocates, believes, or is associated with something. So are all Aryans Hungarian, aquarian, tartarian, barbarian, vulgarian,Unitarian librarians? And Is this bogatyr having a kundalini awakening, or have the pleadian lords re-possessed his Subaru?

 

[Matvei]

Aryan sounds like the sufix arian which indicates a person or thing that advocates, believes, or is associated with something.

A passionary, or an adherent, a believer, or patriot. Alternatively it means nobility or aristocracy. One who is of noble character.
So such a word describes the personality of the Ancient Aryan conquerors of India. Implying that they were not like the British who came later as mere colonizers. That could be just ancient propoganda of course.

And Is this bogatyr having a kundalini awakening, or have the pleadian lords re-possessed his Subaru?

Eh, I don't know.
I suspect that the Cossack hat here is actually depicting a "third eye" in the middle, just like in India.
Implies that they used to possess psychic abilities in battle in addition to martial arts using bladed weapons.

Yeah, you might think "no way this is true". Actually there are few remaining schools of Cossack martial arts in Russia, as most of them were destroyed by the Bolsheviks. There are some such schools which teach "no contact" martial arts, the ancient art of striking an assailant without touching him. Probably we can call this a chi-based martial arts. Using chi or qigong type technique for attacking people with. This leads me to believe that the Cossacks of the Russian Empire, and especially the Ancient Aryans used to be able to do this in battle even. Imagine how powerful they would have been, if can disarm an assailant without even touching him! Mysteries and mysticism indeed!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtFPERKpHg



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uw_LRRtOmI

 

[Deleted member 1432]

@Will Scarlet What was it that Heinsohn was proposing with his findings then?

You're the one making the claim so back it up. And that doesn't mean posting a link to someone's YouTube video.

Replace the turban with papakha, and he looks like a Zaporozhian. I mean that he has the same style of mustache as Cossacks would have.

He also looks like Freddie Mercury, the Ancient Aryan Queen I suppose.

If I am attacked on multiple forums, it means that they're paid trolls who are following me around and trying to discredit me, as a smear campaign.

We've heard this same kind of arrogance before, often from Russian members who decried the Nazis for claiming to be the Master Race, but then went on to try and demonstrate that everything is descended from Russia - birthplace of the true Master Race.

This is actually all quite sickening to see how far the standard of supposedly true enquiry has fallen. You expect us to believe that your 10 years of research comprises a few YouTube videos, some cartoons and artwork (that probably weren't around 10 years ago) and your completely bald opinions and bias. Of course, true to form, this will all be like water off a duck's back and you will just carry on regardless, like they all do.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

such a word describes the personality of the Ancient Aryan conquerors of India. Implying that they were not like the British who came later as mere colonizers. That could be just ancient propoganda of course.

It's all propaganda - the entire Aryan Invasion of India theory was British propaganda. There was no Aryan Invasion of India. I say this based upon the results of many years of research, blah, blah, blah, which can be found here The Myth of the Aryan Invasion of India, but it's not a video and so will require the effort of reading.

 

[trismegistus]

@Matvei I have allowed your thread on this site with the intention that you are planning on providing more research than a string of YT videos and random images of warriors.

If I am attacked on multiple forums, it means that they're paid trolls who are following me around and trying to discredit me, as a smear campaign.

No one is attacking you here, but I'm sure you expected that when posting on this site you would be met with criticism and questions about your research. I volunteer my time to moderate this forum, I have recieved no compensation for my work and that also extends to the posts by other users here. We are all here because we enjoy discussion of alternative historical theories. I suggest you reframe your perspective on those here who question your research.

I would also strongly recommend against spamming posts with multiple links to videos and images. Not only does it make your information difficult to parse through, it is not really backing up your claims.

 

[jeenam]

He's *literally* posting cartoons as 'historical narrative'. Cartoons. How is it even possible to take this seriously in any rational way? How much more shilling will you tolerate?

I agree with your and trismegistus' assessment of his approach here. However, his audience is grizzled veterans to the alt-history realm. At one time we were all inclined to take this approach, which obviously (to the rest of us vets) does not help to impress upon us because we eventually realized one of the major methods of deceit wrought upon the world is through false imagery, animation and mock character acting.

Let us continue to educate so we can expand upon the knowledge we have gained and continue to share it with others. This man has dedicated his time and energy to this work and booing him off the stage isn't going to help. It just makes the rest of us look like a bunch of less than savory folk to interact with.

 

[Jd755]

I agree with your and trismegistus' assessment of his approach here. However, his audience is grizzled veterans to the alt-history realm. At one time we were all inclined to take this approach, which obviously (to the rest of us vets) does not help to impress upon us because we eventually realized one of the major methods of deceit wrought upon the world is through false imagery, animation and mock character acting.

Let us continue to educate so we can expand upon the knowledge we have gained and continue to share it with others. This man has dedicated his time and energy to this work and booing him off the stage isn't going to help.

Asking him for evidence of his ten years of research is not booing him off ffs.
The fact is he is just posting his opinion wirh cartoons and YouTube videos as supporting evidence . He posts nothing at all about how he actually confirmed things for himself about any aspects of what he is claiming and yet he makes it plain any critique of his opinion is the work of trolls who follow him around.

 

[jeenam]

@Jd755 You and I are on the same page.

I didn't encourage him to post the drawings, animations or mock character acting. We've been repeatedly stating that we do not accept that sort of content as factual evidence. I agree the message on that front has not gotten through yet. My hope is that we get our point across regarding the type of content he is posting in an attempt to support his topic of discussion. I, as well as you and others, clearly stated why it's frowned upon around here.

 

[Jd755]

@Jd755 You and I are on the same page.

I didn't encourage him to post the drawings, animations or mock character acting. We've been repeatedly stating that we do not accept that sort of content as factual evidence. I agree the message on that front has not gotten through yet. My hope is that we get our point across regarding the type of content he is posting in an attempt to support his topic of discussion. I, as well as you and others, clearly stated why it's frowned upon around here.

His modus operandi isn't unique nor is it new. Have a wander through the archive.

What is very annoying is he might, I stress might, well be onto something different within his flood of imagery and opinion but frankly there is no way to find it as his posting is on rinse, wash repeat.
Air_dance did something very similar for a long while only difference is he used drawings and colourful maps and coloured text, in place of cartoons and video oh and he was convinced Bulgaria and Bulgarian history held all the answers not the Aryans.

 

[jeenam]

I hear ya. That approach is like the 'olympic sized swimming pool on the roof' scene in the movie Hackers. A lot of the rookies make the same mistake. Eventually they learn real fast (hopefully).

 

[Matvei]

We've heard this same kind of arrogance before, often from Russian members who decried the Nazis for claiming to be the Master Race, but then went on to try and demonstrate that everything is descended from Russia - birthplace of the true Master Race.

Stop turning this discussion into race. I never claimed to be a "Master Race" anything. I even stated explicitly that this isn't about race. You're the one who brought the subject of race into this.

The Ancient Aryans were a multi-ethnic, multi-racial civilization. Of course the original Aryans had to come from somewhere, they were from Russia, of course they looked like Russian people. The original Aryans were one ethnic group. But as they conquered Eurasia they included peoples of other ethnic groups and races into their empire. They passed their culture onto these peoples, such as military technique and uniforms, embroidery, wooden architecture, and language too in some cases. Just like the Spanish and British empires passed their culture onto conquered peoples.

We have the haplogroup R1A predominantly among the White Slavic peoples and among the South Asian peoples. These are peoples of two different races, but they have the same haplogroups. So what happened here? The Ancient Aryan warriors, steppe nomads, barged into South Asia and conquered those countries. They won not because they were a "Master Race" but because they were skilled in martial arts, they had bladed weapons, and they had conical helmets and armor made of chain mail sewn with small metal plates. They created the structure of civilization, and established themselves as the monarchy/nobility of the region, simply because no one was strong enough to resist. The local women and beta males simply fell in line.

These were men in their 20s and 30s with a high testosterone. I do not know if they brought their own women along or not. I think that men only as a nomadic army can cover much greater distances on horseback than with women and children in tow. I think that they conquered, and used the local women as resources for bearing children. That's why the men in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and North India have the haplogroup R1A, but are otherwise South Indian racially. Because they descended the R1A haplogroup from their paternal ancestors, who were the Aryan warriors. And who cares, a woman is a woman. Is she White or South Asian or Mongoloid, no matter, it only matters if she's hot or not.

Racism is an invention of Western European colonial powers. Actually only haplogroups exist. So who are the real "Master Race"? They are the rich Ango-Saxon plantation owners in the Southeastern United States during the 19th century! They were actual masters who owned slaves. These are the people whom we should be blaming. Anglo-Saxons and African Americans have the haplogroup R1B. This is because many African Americans are descended from the sons of White planation owners and their Black enslaved concubines. But these men were sick in the head because they enslaved their own sons, their own bloodline for crying out loud! But the mixed race sons of the first wave of Aryan warriors were kings. Sons are special because they continue the bloodline, while daughters are married into another boy's bloodline.

According to the DNA-geneology of Anatoly Klesov, White Americans and Black Americans are genetically indistinguishable. There is no gene that creates racial difference. There are like 5 different genes that influence skin color. There is a single gene that determines haplogroup, which is passed down from father to son. There is biological proof for a tribal patriarchy, but not for a race-based society as in the 19th century Southeastern United States.

It's all propaganda - the entire Aryan Invasion of India theory was British propaganda. There was no Aryan Invasion of India

I've never even heard of the supposed British origin of the Aryan Invasion theory until I've started posting it here. My research is based on the research of Russian historians, not British, as well as my own findings. I have been accused of being a secret agent of British or Germans. I don't give a shit about claims of British or Germans. I've never even read the original claims what they wrote. "There was no Aryan Invasion of India?" According to what, only assumptions. Allegedly the Aryan Theory was made up by British Colonialism and/or German Nazism, and both of these ideologies are bad, so the Aryan theory is bad? I don't disagree, myself I'm against the British Colonialism and German Nazism. But it seems like a false equivalency, to falsely associate the Aryan Theory with these two Western European detrimental movements, in one fell swoop discredit the theory itself completely.

Whatever are the facts on the ground that are in support of the Aryan Theory? That is something that I'm trying to prove here. I'm finding cultural evidence that the Ancient Aryans definitely were in both Russia and in India. Because we see that they have the same martial arts technique of the steppe nomads, the same conical helmets, etc. And no one attempts to criticize my evidence that is solid. No one attempts to criticize the Sikh Gatka for example, or the armor or the weapons. Only setup a false equivalency between Ancient Aryans Theory and British Colonialism/German Nazism/Master Racism, and then attack using a such constructed strawman argument.

Why would the Ancient Aryans Theory be British propoganda? What would the British have to gain, I mean they definitely weren't related to the Aryans in any way. What would the British or Germans have to gain by claiming the heritage of a completely different civilization that had a totally different aesthetics, such as the shape of their helmets?

Where is that "Aryan" helmet from? It could be from anywhere in the Aryan civilization! Russia, Ukraine, the Balkans, Scandinavia, the Baltics, the Caucasus, Iran, Pakistan, India. Actually the conical helmet is superior because any hit from above bounces off to the side. A direct hit to the tophelm from above all the force goes directly onto the skull/spinal vertebrae, causing a concussion to the warrior.

Of course Hitler was a big fat liar. But could the British have said such things, because they fought against the Aryan warriors in India, the Rajputs? Whom did the British fight in India, whom did they conquer? We know that the Sikhs fought in India, and they were definitely Aryans, even their horseback technique is the same as that of the Cossacks. So maybe the British conquered the India that the Aryans had setup. Maybe the British fought against the Aryans in India? What do we know about the pre-British India anyways? Much is clouded with mystery. Remember the "Great Game" between the British Empire vs the Russian Empire. Why was the British Empire always fighting the Russians? Why did they go to conquer India specifically, of all places?

There is the Heartland geopolitical theory. It says that all of history is a geopolitical standoff between the forces of the Heartland (Russia/Eurasia) and those of the Rimland (Western Europe). The Heartland is the Empire on the land (horseback, chariots), and the Rimland is the Empire on the sea (ships and stuff). Of course the Aryan Civilization comes from the Heartland. So the pre-British South Asia was part of the Heartland, an Aryan stronghold, and the British attacked that place specifically because of their geopolitical theory. That is also why they were fighting against the Russians in the 18th and 19th centuries. And India was conquered by the British when, in the 18th and 19th centuries too!

Air_dance did something very similar for a long while only difference is he used drawings and colourful maps and coloured text, in place of cartoons and video oh and he was convinced Bulgaria and Bulgarian history held all the answers not the Aryans.

That's not mutually exclusive right, you know. After all they were called Bulg-Aryans? If not whom? Bulgaria, indeed the entire Balkans lie within the zone of the Ancient Aryan Civilization, which stretched from Scandinavia all the way down to Indonesia on the diagonal line. To this day the Bulgarians speak a Slavic language that a native Russian speaker would be able to understand after adjustment a month of life in that country.

The Bulgarian warriors also wore the exact same uniforms as the bogatyrs. The following are all pictures of Bulgarian warriors.

They have the same hairstyle as the Zaporozhian Cossacks.

Before the emergence of the distinctive Winged Hussar armor, the Polish army used to look like this.

And now, the Armenian warriors have the same exact "bogatyr" uniforms.

 

[Matvei]

These guys are Assyrian warriors. And we know that the Assyrians used the horse archery technique, same as the Aryans, Cossacks, Bogatyrs, Sikhs, Mongols, etc.

Persian Cataphracts.

The blue and red Iranian warriors above are wearing what appears to be kaftan under their chain mail armor.

Interestingly enough, there were Cossacks in Iran too! Until the World War 1 period there were Cossacks. And their disappearance coincides with World War 1 and the period directly after. We know that the Soviets waged war of extermenation against the Cossacks. Could they be left overs from the Aryan conquests? And the Cossacks in India were Sikhs actually.

 

[jeenam]

Racism is an invention of Western European colonial powers. Actually only haplogroups exist. So who are the real "Master Race"? They are the rich Ango-Saxon plantation owners in the Southeastern United States during the 19th century! They were actual masters who owned slaves. These are the people whom we should be blaming. Anglo-Saxons and African Americans have the haplogroup R1B. This is because many African Americans are descended from the sons of White planation owners and their Black enslaved concubines. But these men were sick in the head because they enslaved their own sons, their own bloodline for crying out loud! But the mixed race sons of the first wave of Aryan warriors were kings. Sons are special because they continue the bloodline, while daughters are married into another boy's bloodline.

This is definitely a mis-guided/mis-informed statement. The colored people of the area that is now the Southeastern United States were also slave owners (sorry to use Wikipedia, it's a sin around here). That's a little known fact they don't teach. So let's not go placing all of the blame of slavery on caucasians.

I do not disagree with the idea of enslavement being sickening. The natives of the Americas have a specific word for it. They call it Wetiko.

I've never even heard of the supposed British origin of the Aryan Invasion theory until I've started posting it here. My research is based on the research of Russian historians, not British, as well as my own findings. I have been accused of being a secret agent of British or Germans. I don't give a shit about claims of British or Germans. I've never even read the original claims what they wrote. "There was no Aryan Invasion of India?" According to what, only assumptions. Allegedly the Aryan Theory was made up by British Colonialism and/or German Nazism, and both of these ideologies are bad, so the Aryan theory is bad? I don't disagree, myself I'm against the British Colonialism and German Nazism. But it seems like a false equivalency, to falsely associate the Aryan Theory with these two Western European detrimental movements, in one fell swoop discredit the theory itself completely.

We can help you learn about the myth of the Aryan invasion of India. The British promoted it and utilized it to their advantage. I'm not going to go into detail but I can say for certain that @Will Scarlet has an excellent write-up on the topic that I recommend reading on his website.

 

[Matvei]

We know now that the Sikhs wear turbans. But could the Cossacks also have worn turbans too?

The series of videos "Pictures of Another Russia" depicts the Russia of the 18th century and earlier. In these pictures we see Russians wearing Sikh-style turbans.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37IbasqBFMY



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEoDbkzvmQg

This man looks like Lev Tolstoy but as a Sikh. This is what the Ancient Aryans really looked like.

The Austrian nobleman Sigismud von Gerbershtein went to Russia together with the diplomatic mission of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and his secretary Paulus Iovius created such drawings of what they saw there, dating to around 1579.

This picture depicts the Tsar Vasily III, father of Tsar Ivan IV, meeting with Austo-Hungarian Emperor Carl V.

 

[Matvei]

Russia has long been called the country of the Onion Domes. What country is also famous for it's onion domes? India! What a "coincidence"!

The Temple of Christ the Savior in Moscow

Looks like the Taj Mahal in India

This is the Temple of the Sikhs in India. It would make sense, if the Sikhs were the Kshatriyas of the Ancient Aryan Civilization, of a people who came from the north, that they would build a temple with the Onion Domes.

More examples of Onion Domes in India.

This is an engraving of Ancient Hindu Temple dating from 1878.
1878 Wood Engraving Hindu Temple Architecture Onion Dome India Catenac

Next example.
Yes, it is not an exact match, but these towers here have a single dome or spire, along which are multiple smaller domes or spires.

A very similar pattern of gradually descending small domes around a big central dome can be seen in Kizhi Pogost.
I call this the "fractal architecture".

 

[Matvei]

A quote from some other person on this forum, saving it for later, in case it would be useful.
But it is not my main evidence, that is still yet to come.

John G. Bennet wrote a paper on "Hyperborean origin of Indo-European culture" in which he stated that the homeland of indo-Europeans was far north.

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This idea was given before him by Bal Gangadhar Tilak in his work "Arctic Home of Veda" (1903), as well as by Austro-Hungarian ethnologist Karl Penka (Origin of Aryans, 1883)