The History of Slavery in Europe?

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Well, the normal view on the history of white slavery does not push it to this time period and in this region: White slavery - Wikipedia

Klemens von Metternich was the Chancellor of the Austrian Empire from 1821 – 1848.

Niles' Register 1825
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Does anyone else have any information on this?
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Username: Onthebit
Date: 2019-07-21 21:38:40
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We're all slaves; I don't think anyone here will dispute that....
 
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Username: Mabzynn
Date: 2019-07-22 22:29:18
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A little bit more on the level of deception happening here:

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So he's known as the successor of Napoleon:


Lord Beauvale seems to know what is really up...

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Keep in mind this correspondence is from 1841 a full 26 years after Metternich's part in abolishing slavery in Europe.

Here's how the conventional story goes:
The leaders of the great powers who represented themselves at Vienna were Emperor Francis I of Austria, King Frederick Wilhelm III of Prussia, and Czar Alexander I of Russia. The leaders of Great Britain and France were represented by their foreign ministers, Viscount Castlereagh and Prince Talleyrand, respectively. Prince Klemens von Metternich, the foreign minister of Austria, however, dominated the conference. Metternich had three goals at the congress: first, he wanted to prevent future French aggression by surrounding France with strong countries; second, he wanted to restore a balance of power (see above), so that no country would be a threat to others; and third, he wanted to restore Europe’s royal families to the thrones they held before the Napoleonic Wars. He accomplished his first goal by making the countries around France stronger (the Austrian Netherlands and Dutch Republic united to form the Kingdom of the Netherlands; thirty-nine German states were loosely joined to create the German Confederation, which was dominated by Austria; Switzerland became an independent state; and the Kingdom of Sardinia was strengthened by annexing Genoa). Metternich’s second goal was accomplished by having France return to its borders of 1790 and relinquishing all territory conquered by Napoleon. Additionally, France was forced to pay an indemnity and accept an army of occupation for five years. Lastly, Metternich accomplished his third goal by restoring the Bourbons to the thrones in France, Spain, and the Kingdom of Two Sicilies (the brother of Louis XVI inherited the throne of France as Louis XVIII). Additionally, the Hapsburgs came back to rule several Italian states and many former rulers of the German states regained their thrones.

Here's what the Jewish Virtual Library has to say about the matter:

METTERNICH, PRINCE KLEMENS WENZEL VON° (1773–1859), Austrian statesman. A supporter of Jewish rights in the German Confederation and abroad – although in Austria itself he did little for the Jews – at the Congress of Vienna he consistently supported the liberal policy of Karl August von *Hardenberg and Wilhelm *Humboldt (see Congress of *Vienna). He repeatedly warned the senate of *Frankfurt on the Main not to infringe upon the rights of its Jewish community and sent letters of protest to *Hamburg, *Luebeck, and *Bremen when they deprived their Jewish citizens of their civil rights. During the 1819 *Hep! Hep! riots he cautioned the Frankfurt authorities against letting matters get out of control. Metternich ordered his diplomatic agents to reveal France's complicity in the 1840 Damascus *blood libel affair. A frequenter of the sophisticated Jewish salons of Vienna, he associated, for business and pleasure, with the patrician Jewish banking families to such a degree that the *Rothschilds were suspected of aiding his escape from revolutionary *Vienna in 1848. His right-hand man, Friedrich von Gentz, was also sympathetic to Jewish causes.
If you'd like to read a paper on Jewish slavers in the Crimean:
https://is.muni.cz/el/1421/podzim2013/AEB_37/um/44673887/Kizilov_JJS.pdf

Anyway... please don't let this devolve into a racial or religious debate. I'm merely questioning the extent of this "slave army" used by the "Holy Alliance" in the 1800's.

1) We have a major controller.
2) We have a source acknowledging slave armies and the use of Francs? Despite France losing the war?.... Makes sense.....
 
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Username: esgee1
Date: 2019-07-25 03:27:32
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Sounds like a serfdom to me:
According to Wikipedia's article about serfdom:
That 1848 date coincides with the end of Kemens von Metternich's chancellorship of the Austrian Empire. I find that very interesting.
According to Wikipedia's article about corvée:
I would say that the slaves referred to in the Niles' Register 1825 article were Corvée labourers.
 
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Username: LndShrk
Date: 2019-08-19 22:46:28
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I always used to wonder the difference between:
  • an indentured servant in the American south who must work until they can buy their way out and
  • a royal subject who must pay royal taxes in perpetuity
Also consider the fact that the United States IRS expects you to pay taxes no matter where in the world you live or work.

These old documents about her Majesty deciding to eliminate slavery sounds like nothing more than an appeal to the slaves and a threat to the slave holders and reminds me of Daenerys moving her way through Esteros. Even today the way they talk about plantations in the American Deep South, for example the Houmas House Plantation (now a bed and breakfast) is described as having been one of the largest slaveholders in the antebellum era, sounds like Jeff Bezos bragging about how many employees he has at one of his Amazon fulfillment centers.

Maybe one day when artificial intelligence renders shift work obsolete the word "employee" will have a dirty connotation.
 
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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-08-20 01:11:25
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Here we have another Clemens/clement bargaining away. Didn’t notice before.
A Faustian Bargain? The First Pope
 
I always used to wonder the difference between:
  • an indentured servant in the American south who must work until they can buy their way out and
  • a royal subject who must pay royal taxes in perpetuity
Also consider the fact that the United States IRS expects you to pay taxes no matter where in the world you live or work.

These old documents about her Majesty deciding to eliminate slavery sounds like nothing more than an appeal to the slaves and a threat to the slave holders and reminds me of Daenerys moving her way through Esteros. Even today the way they talk about plantations in the American Deep South, for example the Houmas House Plantation (now a bed and breakfast) is described as having been one of the largest slaveholders in the antebellum era, sounds like Jeff Bezos bragging about how many employees he has at one of his Amazon fulfillment centers.

Maybe one day when artificial intelligence renders shift work obsolete the word "employee" will have a dirty connotation.
The US Islamic Revenue Service considers the entire world the Ummah and consequently taxes you regardless of which nation you inhabit. I cannot imagine a greater evil than a government run by religious extremists masquerading as a "liberal democracy." The Islamic connection also explains why the USA is always connected to slavery. I wouldn't be surprised if the original colonists were just Europeans kidnapped by pirates and forced to work the land

Moses and the Jews were white slaves who rebelled
 
It seems to me that this book (Niles' Register 1825) would want to put the Holy Alliance in a bad light. The Alliance is based on Christianity, and it is possible that the opponent of Christianity wants to blacken their name. Now that is still playing out with Ukraine. That is a coincidence, isn't it?

The last Tsar and family has been murdered and Russia has been occupied by foreign people.

See: Holy Alliance - Wikipedia
Krimoorlog - Wikipedia
The Holy Alliance (1815)

It gives me the taste that the opponents of Christian morality are breaking down at all costs in order to facilitate their business and not to be bothered too much by high morals. You know who is after money?

Look, it's all about morality. Freethinking seems good, but lacks a fixed morality. Now this is good and tomorrow something else. In Christianity, morality is fixed. That is a great good. And besides? Who can have anything against Christian morality?

There are people who want to dominate others, and those rulers are not Christians. Christians do not dominate because that is not allowed according to that doctrine, we are just equal. England may play the Christian, but are they? I don't think so, when I look at their behaviour. After all, you recognise the tree by its fruits?
It may seem like the Tsar was murdered by the anti-Christian people.
 
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