What's your take on Netflix's new series: Graham Hancock's Ancient Apocalypse?

[Bitbybit]

The reach of his theories may help wake up many people to research new chronology etc.
But he is heavily invested in his own old theories by now.
His book "Fingerprints of the Gods" was published in 1995 which means that his research for this book took place before the information revolution of internet. I havent read the books, but what i know, it seems his stuff is often vague and based on feelings.
I get the notion that Graham Hancocks personality traits seems to indicate he have a low chance of being able to update/dismiss old ideas.
But if our history books ever get updated with a corrected version, hopefully he will be remembered as a good free contributor along with Fomenko and many others.

If his netflix contract includes sequels i suggest:
Graham Hancock Season 2: Abiotic origin of fossile fuel?
Graham Hancock Season 3: Expansion Tectonics
Graham Hancock Season 4: The Dark ages, Dark matter, Dark energy. Forget about it!!

 

[dreamtime]

You guys support and use the WISEUP channel as a resource. It seems as though no one here even goes on that site and you really all think that you know exactly what has happened in the past. Gobekli Tepe is just one site that is obviously a spot of a past cataclysm, and it is not the only spot of course. If you open your eyes you would see the bigger picture, not to mention the numerous sites that are similar and near to Gobekli Tepe and all around the world. Turkey has so many "ancient" sites that should be excavated that are not(like many other sites around the world , or they are taken over by the shit bags and covered and "excavated" on their terms.

Western television is so bad and saturated with MK Ultra shit I can't even tell you, and you folks being from a country that is not the US, I feel you have no idea of how bad the situation really is. And, if you don't think you have been touched by this MK ultra crap, you have been highly mistaken. People from other countries other than the US have been nothing but an experiment and have been controlled by the controllers. We are all pet projects and have been for some time now.

Also on this channel I see many people getting their information from the internet. Wow, and you think that your getting the real source. Every time I see some one post a site as a link to real information I think, "They really believe that they are finding out truths", well wake up because you have just been duped.


I have tried to stay away from this and did not want to write such things, but I felt I have been left with no choice.

btw, appreciate your honesty.

 

[LukeBridgeman]

No idea whether he's consciously a shill, but he's still part of the range of remotely accepted opinions. He is the most fringe history figure that is allowed in the public sphere, I guess. I have never looked into his specific claims or read his books, so I can't really judge him beyond what I have picked up here and there.

There are probably many people who woke up to alternative interpretations about our history thanks to him, so that's a good thing. Mainstream history always pretends there's only one way to look at things, so when someone breaks up that concept, that's already a benefit to humanity.

In my view, he focuses to much on long time spans, and the "Younger Dryas", 12,000 or so years ago.

He suggests that Antarctica was ice free at one point, but says it was 6,000 years ago, while the maps that show an Ice-free Antarctica are only a couple hundred years old. He makes the same mistake as others who interpret the Piri Reis map.

He pushes things further into the past, even further than mainstream archeology, which is not very helpful.


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Sean Hancock

You’re completely spot on! Couldn’t have said it better, he woke me up i read his book fingerprints of the gods in my early twenties about the ancient civilisations he focused mainly on the Egyptians! All though he does give some truth i truly believe he hides most of it or should i say hes 'not allowed' he pushes a lot of Globe talk and space conversations so no doubt he is controlled unfortunately
Hes a brilliant starting point for new comers into truth so im all for the new show. Just take him with a pinch of after all you don’t get a netflix series without some kind of boundaries.
Count how many times he says 'globe' to while watching it

 

[Bitbybit]

The antarctica theory of Piri Reis map can be debunked by everyone if they sit one hour and compares the map with a real map. They will see its just the coast of south america. However, Graham Hancock didnt have internet/google earth/good maps at the time, and seems to have been misled greatly.
Graham Hancock pushes the map to our distant past to Alexander The Great. But with the new chronology, this means the opposite of what GH thinks.

 

[dreamtime]

How can buildings "align" with a star constellation?

It seems these people never explain what they mean with alignment specifically.

Hancock also claims that Maltese temples lack “unity” and posits the theory that if they were built in 11,000 BCE, they would have aligned with the Sirius constellation.

From an article about Maltese archeologists who are not happy about Hancock:
Maltese archaeologists push back against Netflix show’s temple claims

 

[trismegistus]

How can buildings "align" with a star constellation?

It seems these people never explain what they mean with alignment specifically.



From an article about Maltese archeologists who are not happy about Hancock:
Maltese archaeologists push back against Netflix show’s temple claims

“It is easy to take some impressive videos of these buildings and completely remove them from their context. If you ignore the people, then you can claim that people could not have possibly built these, and on and on it goes. If you take a story that is completely out there and create a conspiracy, you don’t have to bother with things like examining the actual archaeological evidence from multiple countries. These people have never gone through a site report, never mind a few thousand bits of pottery.”

This is a somewhat spurious argument from these Maltese archeologists.


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This tweet attempts to "clarify" the dates of the development of the Maltese island, but it falls into the same trap of relative dating. Everything is within a context of previously defined technological eras, and are force-fed into those categorizations. They also leave out "cataclysms" as a potential explanation for lack of early evidence of Maltese history.

I'm not saying that Hancock is right on this either, and the whole idea of structures aligning with certain constellations has lost favor with me personally over the years. But frankly, I find it even harder to trust the Maltese, considering that the Knights of Malta were involved in the potential forgery of ancient Egypt with Napoleon, and their cities sit atop one of the most extensive and impressive Star city infrastructure still intact today.

I highly recommend the work of Paul Cook who does top tier urban exploration videos of the Maltese Star city. They have a lot to answer for in their history, and are hardly in the position to be calling people like Hancock and those who are interested in alternative explanations for their megaliths "conspiracy theorists"



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[6079SmithW]

I am on episode three, and very close to switching it off completely.

GH is not a shill, he is a coward. He is trying to shoe-horn some aspects of catastrophism into the mainstream narrative.

He is playing it safe, not going out on too much of a limb - and thus watering down the truth.

Many of his statements show his true colors. "I don't believe that giants have ever existed" he says, in a mocking tone. He is more interested in staying within the socially acceptable paradigm than calling a spade a spade. What use can people like this be?

Edit: Jesus, this man takes so many assumptions as Gospel.

Heliocentrism,

The Maltese Megaliths were Temples

etc etc

I'm switching it off! Thanks Graham HandCock!

 

[TruthIsOnlyDelayed]

"I don't believe that giants have ever existed" he says, in a mocking tone.

This to me shows a lot of how far along someone has gotten or if they are a blocker of the truth. Countless historical artifacts to suggest their existence, mentions in many religions and religious texts, architecture demonstrating gigantic proportions, etc. It truly is a fingers in ears type response.

 

[luckyducky007]

Watched the entire thing last night and have to say while it being an interesting watch i felt like he was keeping a lot back. Trying to say what is needed without overreaching and possibly upsetting the wrong people. I do feel the giant line was the giveaway, as i believe it was his way of referencing that topic without having people question his sanity more so than they probably do. Alot of what he said in regard to academia i feel is correct, we all know the lack of movement in those fields especially when its a well accepted theory even when slapped with new evidence.

He offers an interesting perspective and good that it's out there on netflix, I also don't believe everything that's on a platform is somehow propaganda and probably unhealthy to think so. Good to see more of the different ideas out there getting more people thinking.

 

[scofield.htm]

Nothing is organic or ‘grass roots’ in the intelligence fronts known colloquially as the media, this is obviously another ‘attack’ in demonizing conspiracy theorists:

Ancient Apocalypse is the most dangerous show on Netflix

“I once got trapped at a party with a Flat Earther. It was a very similar experience to watching this.”

 

[Quiahuitl]

Nothing is organic or ‘grass roots’ in the intelligence fronts known colloquially as the media, this is obviously another ‘attack’ in demonizing conspiracy theorists:

Ancient Apocalypse is the most dangerous show on Netflix

Very funny. The Guardian article sneers at Hancock whilst not allowing any comments. They shut down all the comments in the Guardian a long time ago, they were getting absolutely destroyed.

 

[alfy]

Check out this thread on reddit, congruent with this discussion, and containing a lot of healthy skepticism:

/r/conspiracyNOPOL/comments/z54a9e/the_msm_bashing_the_popular_netflix_show_ancient/

The biggest giveaway about this show (just finished watching it in full yesterday) is he uses the "ancient apocalypse" to promote the idea of an imminent *new* apocalypse. I'm ready to concede the Earth may have indeed been rebooted a few times in the past, and that it might indeed happen again in the future. However the probability that such a reboot does indeed happen in our lifetime is infinitesimally small, and that's what I don't buy; especially since the central planners are trying to convince me so hard of it.

Indeed that is part of the eschatological script currently being played out by central planners, i.e. trying to convince as many people as possible that we are in the "end times". Of course they call by different names depending on the identity they target: climate change, great awakening, great reset, new world order, new age, age of aquarius, tribulation/rapture, technological singularity, UFO disclosure, age of Mahdi, Aeon of Horus, etc.

It all boils down to Kabbalistic eschatology. All these savior figures involved actually correspond to their pet moschiach, which they might very well end-up conjuring/faking. It therefore makes perfect sense this would be on Netflix, and promoted by the MSM under the guise of criticizing it.

My educated guess is we'll witness the largest financial/economic meltdown in the history of money, and that the central planners will try to rely on this to "fulfill" their obscurantist and genocidal eschatological prophecy/promise, and that they will fail miserably precisely because they are utter barbarians with no taste or culture to speak of, suffocating on superstitions.

 

[Hendy]

I'm not sure this forum would be here today without Graham Hancock's work.

 

[Hendy]

I am on episode three, and very close to switching it off completely.

GH is not a shill, he is a coward. He is trying to shoe-horn some aspects of catastrophism into the mainstream narrative.

He is playing it safe, not going out on too much of a limb - and thus watering down the truth.

Many of his statements show his true colors. "I don't believe that giants have ever existed" he says, in a mocking tone. He is more interested in staying within the socially acceptable paradigm than calling a spade a spade. What use can people like this be?

Edit: Jesus, this man takes so many assumptions as Gospel.

Heliocentrism,

The Maltese Megaliths were Temples

etc etc

I'm switching it off! Thanks Graham HandCock!

You'll find he does that to help make his material more digestible.

He will always deliberately steer clear of aliens, which disappoints people that are interested in the topic and believe in fallen angels, etc. I've always felt he was purposely steering clear of anything that was controversial because he wanted the overarching proposal accepted by academia and not brushed away because he was talking about Giants or Aliens. The subject matter is contentious enough and doesn't need more indigestible material piled on top of it.

Hugh Newman is probably the most prominent researcher/presenter on giants and he tours with Graham; Grahams's a disciple of von Däniken — of course he believes in giants and aliens.

 

[wild heretic]

I'm not sure this forum would be here today without Graham Hancock's work.

Actually, I'd like to think I gave Korben Dallas inspiration with a 300k views thread on my old forum about the mud flood in 2018. The reason I say this is because very soon after, he started the old version of this site and republished my material (without credit). He then took stuff from the Russian web and translated it... apparently.

I don't mind though. Whatever gets the oven going, so to speak.

I don't think Graham Hancock had anything to do with any of it. He certainly had nothing to do with me writing the mud flood thread. We can start with crediting the original you tubers in 2016/2017 with that mud flood idea if we like.

You'll find he does that to help make his material more digestible.

He will always deliberately steer clear of aliens, which disappoints people that are interested in the topic and believe in fallen angels, etc. I've always felt he was purposely steering clear of anything that was controversial because he wanted the overarching proposal accepted by academia and not brushed away because he was talking about Giants or Aliens. The subject matter is contentious enough and doesn't need more indigestible material piled on top of it.

Hugh Newman is probably the most prominent researcher/presenter on giants and he tours with Graham; Grahams's a disciple of von Däniken — of course he believes in giants and aliens.

If you want to be taken seriously by academics; albeit on the QT (privately), all you need to do is publish a logical thesis backed up with plenty of documented evidence, and off you go. Of course, you'll never be officially looked at; but to be honest, who would want that in today's clown world.

And if you are controversial enough, the Intelligence Agencies will look at you.

 

[Hendy]

Actually, I'd like to think I gave Korben Dallas inspiration with a 300k views thread on my old forum about the mud flood in 2018. The reason I say this is because very soon after, he started the old version of this site and republished my material (without credit). He then took stuff from the Russian web and translated it... apparently.

I don't mind though. Whatever gets the oven going, so to speak.

I don't think Graham Hancock had anything to do with any of it. He certainly had nothing to do with me writing the mud flood thread. We can start with crediting the original you tubers in 2016/2017 with that mud flood idea if we like.


If you want to be taken seriously by academics; albeit on the QT (privately), all you need to do is publish a logical thesis backed up with plenty of documented evidence, and off you go. Of course, you'll never be officially looked at; but to be honest, who would want that in today's clown world.

And if you are controversial enough, the Intelligence Agencies will look at you.

This isn't a mudflood forum. And if we want to properly credit for popularization of alternative history, Graham (or Velikovsky) would be the correct people to credit. As for mud flood popularization, I would think Sylvie Ivanova is the correct person to credit, not you. She doesn't get nearly enough credit as a brilliant researcher and historian.

 

[Deleted member 37]

This isn't a mudflood forum.

Not a 'buzillion' years ago forum either.

As for mud flood popularization, I would think Sylvie Ivanova is the correct person to credit, not you.

A badge of honor for wild heretic.

And if we want to properly credit for popularization of alternative history, Graham (or Velikovsky) would be the correct people to credit.

Velikovsky came a good 30 years before Mr. Rothschild employee.

 

[uhauss]

I' am not an expert like many of you, , but my feeling says that even our chronology is faked i have doubt that there is a relation
between antiquity and the pyramids . The pyramids had no inscription which is unusual ,and they could be much older .

 

[wild heretic]

This isn't a mudflood forum. And if we want to properly credit for popularization of alternative history, Graham (or Velikovsky) would be the correct people to credit. As for mud flood popularization, I would think Sylvie Ivanova is the correct person to credit, not you. She doesn't get nearly enough credit as a brilliant researcher and historian.

Just my opinion.

IMO, I am sure Velikovsky or Hancock had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the original stolenhisitory. I have no idea why you think that. To be sure though, you could ask Korben Dallas.

Credit flows from a couple of youtubers in 2016/17 who mentioned mudflood and then went on about Tartaria and other controversial history topics. I can't remember their names. It was possible that Levi was one of them. Then "credit" flows to me, then to Korben Dallas, and then to Dreamtime and others who had the initiative to start the new version of this forum.

I'm sure Korben Dallas took inspiration from other youtubers at the time too, but his first articles were taken from my thread. That is a fact. Therefore I logically conclude that he was "inspired" by that thread. And good for him for taking the initiative and starting the original forum, which I enjoyed thoroughly.

I don't recall Korben Dallas ever taking anything from Hancock or Velikovsky.

 

[Just]

Just my opinion.

IMO, I am sure Velikovsky or Hancock had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the original stolenhisitory. I have no idea why you think that. To be sure though, you could ask Korben Dallas.

Credit flows from a couple of youtubers in 2016/17 who mentioned mudflood and then went on about Tartaria and other controversial history topics. I can't remember their names. It was possible that Levi was one of them. Then "credit" flows to me, then to Korben Dallas, and then to Dreamtime and others who had the initiative to start the new version of this forum.

I'm sure Korben Dallas took inspiration from other youtubers at the time too, but his first articles were taken from my thread. That is a fact. Therefore I logically conclude that he was "inspired" by that thread. And good for him for taking the initiative and starting the original forum, which I enjoyed thoroughly.

I don't recall Korben Dallas ever taking anything from Hancock or Velikovsky.

As a side note, I remember reading that Velikovsky’s book (Worlds in Collision, I think) was found on Einstein’s bedside table when he died. Apocryphal or true?