I have not lied. You are the one with the insults and you are claiming a fact that is non existing. A chart is proof of nothing. If you are going to make a claim present it in a way that can be understood to be refuted.
Yes, you have lied! You wrote: "The math by pushamaku must not match reality". Whithout writing why the pushamaku's calculus is wrong, your words make both a lie and an insult!
The sphere a 2D mathematical object is used to attempt an explanation of the ball a 3D physical object. Stunning sleight of hand had me hooked forr decades.
Refraction through different density mediums is possible due to light having a velocity of the speed of light and that it's mass is so tiny that it can course correct.
So the math does match reality? Got it. Water is going uphill on a elipsoid. I was wrong and your right. You showed it in a graph.
I have read this thread and do find the subject interesting. I am still up in the air with what my personal current belief is about the shape of the Earth. There are great points on either side. I found an interesting map from the past, supposedly made by Orlando Ferguson in 1893, where the Earth is kind of like a circular Sine Wave. Our "Northern" regions being in the center and having a concave curvature with our "north pole" being the highest point in the center. Then it concavely curves as you go "south" only to reach the bottom of the wave trough at the "Equator". Then the curvature begins a convex turn for the "southern" hemisphere. Pretty silly at the face but I am open to anything because one thing I do know: there are lies about our history and origins EVERYWHERE, in every subject.
Map you speak of:
We are not a grup because we are not honest people only! The dishonest people will deter every effort to progress. The proof is that after so many years we were not advanced at all. Korben and a few others made great efforts to awake the sleeping crowd, but their efforts were sabotaged.
I think it comes down to core values with some people. They are unaware that these values are not their own and have been implanted. In order to change these views they first have to admit that everybody including their closest family is lying to them since birth. This is a frightening thought that is met with huge resistance for most and they will fight tooth and nail against it. The programming, brainwashing, manipulation and cognitive dissonance is powerful.
I did not think even for a second that my mother is guilty because I thought the earth is an ellipsoid or my physics teacher, for example. I was not frightened, I was curious. Then I could not understand why people which should have been clever than me banned me after lying me. There is one reason only: there are dishonest people paid to lie.
Dude, why would you care what people think. It's your journey! I have no idea of math, but I realize that most of the proof of curvature fails. I almost flunked out of high school but today I work in engineering and if anybody knew at work that I even entertain the idea of flat earth or concave earth I would be ridiculed. This website is just a bunch of people searching through the bullshit mainstream history to try to figure out the real stuff. Some people are part of the NASA religion and it doesn't make them shills. It's like being an addict, they need to want to change their view. I see the same users defend NASA posting the same garbage over and over, sometimes without even understanding the videos they post. I notice on Reddit that any post that mentions flat earth triggers some algorithm and gets attacked, I don't see that here.
You are right, but it has to be more than addiction. I have read on the web that electromagnetic radiation makes us dumber and dumber. I expect to be ridiculed on the flat earth subject by somebody without much knowledge, but when an engineer who takes care of the computers network of a big institution from Bucharest answered me "gravitation" when I told him what I have read about Mississippi I did not know what to think because we were only us in that room. I have tryed to explain him that the Mississippi flows on the ellipsoid perimeter toward the bulge and the supposed gravitation is directed toward the ellipsoid's center, but it was in vain! Maybe the poisons from the food play a role too.
@ion.brad, I think that’s enough. That peon thing did it for me. Enjoy other places where name calling is welcome.
Just to sympathize with what you said.
I grew up questioning everything, I still do thankfully. Today I can entertain any theory and some of them are fascinating but I have accepted that it could be false too. If I spoke about what goes on inside my head the men in white coats would come and take me away to the nuthouse.
There's people who have taken the DIY approach to high altitude photography, although I don't think anyone has done this just yet with the intent of determining if there is a curvature, but they have put video cameras on balloons. Lot's of video's on youtube.
I have seen some of the video's of the balloons and one of a amateur rocket that hits 73 miles or something.
Why if you go to the expense of launching that thing would he not put several horizontal cameras? It makes no sense.
The first one I ever saw was a few years back and it just a kid and his dad that put a video camera on a balloon. It got to over 90 thousand feet before bursting. It was interesting to see because you could see the balloon expanding and expanding till it finally popped. The crazy thing was that it landed only 35 miles away from where they launched it. They had a GPS on it to find. It was all very amateur but worked amazingly well. I'd watched the bursting and falling back several times because I swear you could make out a ring space station just as the thing burst and flipped around. That however just can't be. Someone with a telescope would have spotted it I'm sure and besides no space station could be in am orbit that low so it had to be some artifact.
