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A few days ago I received an email from a gentleman named Nikolai. In the e-mail he says that he is working on getting the Voynich manuscript deciphered. With Nikolai's permission, his e-mail message is published at the bottom of this post. I think most of us are somewhat familiar with this manuscript. For those who are not, here is a short compilation of some general info.

Wilfrid Voynich
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1865-1930
Wilfrid Voynich - born Michał Habdank-Wojnicz - was a Polish revolutionary, antiquarian and bibliophile. Voynich operated one of the largest rare book businesses in the world, but he is best remembered as the eponym of the Voynich manuscript.
  • Voynich became an antiquarian bookseller from around 1897, acting on the advice of Richard Garnett, a curator at the British Museum. Voynich opened a bookshop at Soho Square in London in 1898. He was remarkably lucky in finding rare books, including a Malermi Bible in Italy in 1902.
  • The most famous of Voynich's possessions was a mysterious manuscript he said he acquired in 1912 at the Villa Mondragone in Italy, but first presented in public in 1915. The book has been carbon-dated, which revealed that the materials were manufactured sometime between 1404 and 1438, although the book may have been written much later. He owned the manuscript until his death.
  • In 1917, based on rumors, Voynich was investigated by the FBI, in relation to his possession of Bacon's cipher. The report also noted that he dealt with manuscripts from the 13th, 12th, and 11th centuries, and that the value of his books at the time was half a million dollars. However, the investigation did not reveal anything significant beyond the fact that he possessed a secret code nearly a thousand years old.
The Voynich Manuscript
Here is the official version. ⚠ Written in Central Europe at the end of the 15th or during the 16th century, the origin, language, and date of the Voynich Manuscript - named after the Polish-American antiquarian bookseller, Wilfrid M. Voynich, who acquired it in 1912 - are still being debated as vigorously as its puzzling drawings and undeciphered text. Described as a magical or scientific text, nearly every page contains botanical, figurative, and scientific drawings of a provincial but lively character, drawn in ink with vibrant washes in various shades of green, brown, yellow, blue, and red.

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Voynich manuscript on display in Beinecke Library, Yale (Beinecke Library)

Based on the subject matter of the drawings, the contents of the manuscript fall into six sections:
  1. botanicals containing drawings of 113 unidentified plant species;
  2. astronomical and astrological drawings including astral charts with radiating circles, suns and moons, Zodiac symbols such as fish (Pisces), a bull (Taurus), and an archer (Sagittarius), nude females emerging from pipes or chimneys, and courtly figures;
  3. a biological section containing a myriad of drawings of miniature female nudes, most with swelled abdomens, immersed or wading in fluids and oddly interacting with interconnecting tubes and capsules;
  4. an elaborate array of nine cosmological medallions, many drawn across several folded folios and depicting possible geographical forms;
  5. pharmaceutical drawings of over 100 different species of medicinal herbs and roots portrayed with jars or vessels in red, blue, or green, and
  6. continuous pages of text, possibly recipes, with star-like flowers marking each entry in the margins.
The Manuscript History
Like its contents, the history of ownership of the Voynich manuscript is contested and filled with some gaps. The codex belonged to Emperor Rudolph II of Germany (Holy Roman Emperor, 1576-1612), who purchased it for 600 gold ducats and believed that it was the work of Roger Bacon. It is very likely that Emperor Rudolph acquired the manuscript from the English astrologer John Dee (1527-1608). Dee apparently owned the manuscript along with a number of other Roger Bacon manuscripts. In addition, Dee stated that he had 630 ducats in October 1586, and his son noted that Dee, while in Bohemia, owned “a booke…containing nothing butt Hieroglyphicks, which booke his father bestowed much time upon: but I could not heare that hee could make it out.” Emperor Rudolph seems to have given the manuscript to Jacobus Horcicky de Tepenecz (d. 1622), an exchange based on the inscription visible only with ultraviolet light on folio 1r which reads: “Jacobi de Tepenecz.” Johannes Marcus Marci of Cronland presented the book to Athanasius Kircher (1601-1680) in 1666. In 1912, Wilfred M. Voynich purchased the manuscript from the Jesuit College at Frascati near Rome. In 1969, the codex was given to the Beinecke Library by H. P. Kraus, who had purchased it from the estate of Ethel Voynich, Wilfrid Voynich’s widow.
Since the manuscript's modern rediscovery in 1912, there have been a number of claimed decipherings.
The Voynich manuscript deciphering status, per Wiki: cryptography case which has not been solved or deciphered.

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Nikolai's Email
... as received and unedited...

I

am deciphering the manuscript of Voynich and got positive results. There is a key to cipher the Voynich manuscript. The key to the cipher manuscript placed in the manuscript. It is placed throughout the text. Part of the key hints is placed on the sheet 14. With her help was able to translate a few dozen words that are completely relevant to the theme sections.

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he Voynich manuscript is not written with letters. It is written in signs. Characters replace the letters of the alphabet one of the ancient language. Moreover, in the text there are 2 levels of encryption. I figured out the key by which the first section could read the following words: hemp, wearing hemp; food, food (sheet 20 at the numbering on the Internet); to clean (gut), knowledge, perhaps the desire, to drink, sweet beverage (nectar), maturation (maturity), to consider, to believe (sheet 107); to drink; six; flourishing; increasing; intense; peas; sweet drink, nectar, etc. Is just the short words, 2-3 sign. To translate words with more than 2-3 characters requires knowledge of this ancient language. The fact that some symbols represent two letters. In the end, the word consisting of three characters can fit up to six letters. Three letters are superfluous. In the end, you need six characters to define the semantic word of three letters. Of course, without knowledge of this language make it very difficult even with a dictionary.
  • And most important. In the manuscript there is information about "the Holy Grail".
I'm willing to share information.


KD: I don't have a horse in this race, and my deciphering skills are next to nothing. I'm looking at this manuscript just like this.
  • Allegedly was written in 1400s.
  • Allegedly was acquired in 1912.
  • Was unheard of until 1915.
  • Its alleged purchaser dealt with manuscripts from the 13th, 12th, and 11th centuries.
    • possessed a secret code nearly a thousand years old.
May be Wilfrid Voynich did purchase the manuscript as he said he did. I have my doubts, but I'd be happy to be wrong. I will forward this thread to Nikolai, in case he wants to join the discussion.

Anyways, opinions on this codex are welcome. If one of you cracks the "signs"... the ??? are on me.
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-01-05 13:35:24
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Haven’t really looked into it but the german researcher Erhard Landmann is missing on the above list, so I’ll add some links:
Basic premise:
 
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Username: Musashi
Date: 2020-01-05 19:20:08
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I took a stab at deciphering a few years back using statistical natural language processing. Didnt get very far.

I'd be interested in more details on the ancient language Nikolai thinks the cypher is based on.
 
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Username: BrokenAgate
Date: 2020-01-05 20:22:26
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If so, then it still begs the question of where these illustrations did come from, and what they could mean. They certainly look as if they are intended to be drawings of real plants, with leaves, flowers, roots, tubers, and seed pods shown in enough detail that you could imagine them growing in a tropical forest somewhere, or maybe just someone's garden. They are not very skillful drawings, however, particularly the drawings of women, which are really awful, like a child's artwork. Everything seems to have been drawn by people with mediocre art skills who were in a hurry to record things that they thought to be important.
 
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Username: Japod
Date: 2020-01-06 20:11:33
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Its been solved, Its written in old Turkish. A Turkish immigrant father and son have translated close to 30% as of 2019.

 
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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-01-06 22:08:32
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Let me know when somebody finds the "holy grail". I've been searching for that thing for lifetimes...
 
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Username: BrokenAgate
Date: 2020-01-07 04:53:24
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And the Fountain of Youth...or at least, the Fountain of Slightly Younger and More Spry.
 
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Username: rafalnowicki
Date: 2020-01-11 01:38:48
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Russians can it with no problems. It will never be deciphered by Westerners. The real meaning of this manuscript is too shooking. Explanations in the movie below. Need to turn on translation.

 
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Username: zatrix
Date: 2020-01-11 04:33:32
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I watched the Turkish and the Russian video.
I speak Russian.
Both are not convincing.
Russian one in particular because it is not at all clear on how they go from the script language to the russian translation, other than "intuitively".

Turkish video is from 2018 and they are only 30% (300-600 words) translated. 70 of those words uniquely identify drawings.
Has anybody found the actual translation thus far?
I would say it is quite far from translated.

Most recent update,
 
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Username: rafalnowicki
Date: 2020-01-11 11:48:36
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Why intuition cannot be a cipher key? This is the simplest way. Put into the text many letter/text mistakes so only "natives" can read it. We have very powerful computers which simply cannot decypher it because you need a mind which understands language to read it. Simple but unbreakable.
First movie shows than the manuscript describe:
- aliens
- vampires
- broken Tartarian agreement (between humans and other creatures)

Another one is about:
- jet hydrogen airships
- free energy
- lost technologies

We will never discover the truth when we will not accept unbelievable.


Russians are very open to many possibilities and in my opinion, currently, they are the best in discovering the pre-Reset world.
 
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Username: zatrix
Date: 2020-01-11 21:49:58
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It is not that intuition can’t, it is just that intuition is not the right answer here.

Sure, intuition can be that which kick starts the process by yielding an idea. But after all is translated, there should be a formula or function by which others could understand the process of deciphering the text.

After all the script is clearly bound by some rules. We just don’t know what they are.

More over, I think in theory it also possible to “decipher” the script, and yet be left in the dark as to the meaning.

For just because we know the words does not mean we understand the meaning.
 
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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-01-11 21:53:14
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Or that it even means anything. Many have given it a look.
Could have been an old Dr Seuss type book...
Who's SUPER COOL, btw. Watched how they turned the Grinch from a book into the original short animation. AMAZING. Highly recommended.
Maybe this manuscript is just a fantasy well executed.
A work of GENIUS
 
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Username: rafalnowicki
Date: 2020-01-11 23:32:12
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Thank you @zatrix for your post. You probably explained why nobody (except Russians) can read this manuscript. Scientists "assumed" something which may not be the truth. Maybe, just my guess, the author of the manuscript didn't want to play with any cipher. Maybe he/she/they wanted just hide the true meaning in a simple way and it is working as designed. It is clearly written in some old Russian language obviously when Russians can read it. They can even discover the true meaning of it. They have results. The rest don't have anything which can be useful.
This is my opinion only, based on results Russian have, much bigger than anyone else. Yes, I admit. This is very futuristic but I am open to it.
 
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Username: zatrix
Date: 2020-01-12 00:00:24
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I was just saying that I speak and read Russian and that guy's explanation does not make sense to me.
After watching his video I am not able to replicate (read the script) for my self.
 
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Username: Razor2299
Date: 2020-01-12 00:27:51
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I am very open-minded regarding this subject. But, my theory is that this manuscript was written by a schizophreniac (or a graphomaniac), a very talented one, who believed the he/she was recording real knowledge. That is why it so unique and contains never-seen enywhere else things.
 
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