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I didn't know where to put this thread exactly, I figure Tolkien's name has far more caché than Ior Bock's - so books it is!

J.R.R. Tolkien couldn't possibly require any introduction around here, but he may require a radical re-appraisal. As the "official" story goes Tolkien began forming and writing the cosmology of Middle-Earth in his tent during WWI. This is where he came up with the supreme God (Eru Ilúvatar/Aulé) and the lesser gods (Ainur/Valar) of Middle Earth (Eä/Arda). The book in which this mythos is brought to life is undoubtedly Tolkien's magnum opus, it is of course - The Silmarillion. It goes back to back to the point of primordial nothingness, where Eru Ilúvatar creates the Ainur to sing the song of creation.

Now, here's where reality gives Tolkien a run for his considerable posthumous estate.

The Bock Saga

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Abstract: Ior Bock, the last of the Bock Family lineage is the official story keeper of humanity. His family line goes back thousands of years to the very origins of humanity's root races. This was when "We" could all access the Shamballa-like land around the central mountain of Earth.

This is where the speculation about Tolkien begins to tie in. In addition to being a prolific writer, Tolkien was also a prolific linguistics researcher who spent a fair amount of time in Scandinavia and Finland in particular. For those who aren't aware, the Finnish language is quite the conundrum. It is part of a larger language grouping called Finno-Ugaritic, Ugarit being an ancient port city in modern day Syria. Finno-Ugaritic is part of the Semitic language base that includes Akkadian, Chaldean, Babylonian, Assyrian, Phoenician, and the oldest of all Sumerian. Even more tantalizing is how modern Finnish allegedly has more in common with Sumerian syntactically than Akkadian did 5000 years ago.

Who would have known about these linguistic intricacies and subtleties?
-Tolkien

There are many theories that he received a deeper, secret oral version of the Kalevala and the Eddas. The Kalevala being the foundational mythology of Finland.
The Kalevala Index

Even to the casual observer Gandalf is Väinämöinen, and I'd doubt Tolkien would refute it. He might even insultingly say something to the effect of "congratulations you can read." [As an aside; from Tolkien's private correspondences he seemed like a cranky dude]

There are many links here, but I'd recommend starting with the Bock Saga THC. As far as alternative research podcasts go it is really one of the best out there. I'm not shilling for it, I just respect the consistent quality. Here's the rest of what I have:
Väinämöinen: The Finnish Deity and Hero Who Inspired Tolkien to Create Gandalf and Tom Bombadil
Revelation13.net: Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" - and Finland
The Bock Saga vs. the Lord of the Rings
Does The Bock Saga lead on to the Lord Of The Rings? - Page 5
Tolkien’s Middle-Earth, true History? - World Mysteries Blog

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-09-17 18:04:33
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While I’m yet to educate myself on this Bock guy and his family, I do think that certain authors to include Tolkien were allowed to tap into the knowledge of the past. Whether it was a deliberate introduction, or they just stumbled into something not yet censored out, I do not know.

 

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Username: Paracelsus
Date: 2018-09-17 23:26:41
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While I’m yet to educate myself on this Bock guy and his family, I do think that certain authors to include Tolkien were allowed to tap into the knowledge of the past. Whether it was a deliberate introduction, or they just stumbled into something not yet censored out, I do not know.

There will always be some version of an "Invisible College" out there, strategically disseminating revolutionary knowledge. Tolkien may or may not have been part of the system, he was a devout Catholic after all. Accidents that seem accidental often aren't.

The Genesis 6 Conspiracy – Chapter 60: The Invisible College
Robert Boyle and The Invisible College

 

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Username: Nostradennis
Date: 2020-01-15 05:29:17
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The Bock Saga cannot be written, only written about. Why? Sa means to receive. Ga means to give. The process of receiving/giving introduced here took place from generation to generation in the Bock Family via the linguistic system, the “sound system”, of Rot (say “root”) language. The nucleus of this system is a ring of 23 sounds, each of which has specific meaning(s). The meaning(s) of each individual sound must be approached within the context of and in relation to the meaning(s) of all other sounds comprising the ring. The ring-ing inspired by the sound system of the Rot language cultivates an activity within the human brain that roots, educates and nourishes the integrated processes of consciousness and communication observable (and intuited) in the laws of nature which we take to mean those laws which actually determine and govern observable events.

It is worth noting that this alphabetic ringing makes three direct statements concerning the role, fate and destiny of "ho-man" (human) beings upon Earth. This ringing of three primary statements set forth by the circular alphabet is symbolized - notated - thus: i Asernas Börg C Dagen, Ekens Frus Grund, Hel. i Jarlarnas Karlarnas Lag: Monen, Nordcharnan, Oden, Polen, Quadraten. Ras Sol Tor, Ursprungets Vaner i.

When symbols representing the 23 sounds are written upon a page, in a ring, we have an “alphabet” that revolves in a continuum. The accompanying development of logic patterns inherent within – and emanating from – sequences discovered and followed in correlating these specifically meaningful sounds form a mandala.

This non-linear alphabet can not be written in a column with a beginning and an end; rather it circulates, literally, socially and logically. Like ripples radiating from a handful of pebbles thrown into a pond, the unfoldings of interdependent meanings are ceaselessly converging and overlapping, encouraging spontaneous, simultaneous non-linear thought processes (synaptic connections) that replicate the cyclical and radiant movements of creation itself. This not only parallels natural laws evidenced within the larger system, confirming discoveries continuing to this day in fields as diverse as particle physics, astrophysics and genetics. “As below, so above. As above, so below.”

Bock Saga Transcipt:. Bock Saga Original Transcipt

Thank you @Paracelsus for the treasure trove of informative links.

“It [discovering Finnish] was like discovering a wine-cellar filled with bottles of amazing wine of a kind and flavour never tasted before. It quite intoxicated me.” -J.R.R. Tolkien

The Language of the Rings

With the knowledge of the Bock Saga, the word "Lord" in Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" could equally mean "Language", that first and "one language to rule them all.” That one language that has "sound" logic and "rings" true.

 

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Username: Zoltan Duck
Date: 2020-01-16 19:28:26
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Finnish allegedly has more in common with Sumerian syntactically than Akkadian did 5000 years ago.

Finland is ’Suomi’ in Finnish so no surprise there, at least not to me.

It is said that we Finnish people are born old and I agree: There is obviously something old about Finnish mentality.

Unfortunately we have forgotten our history, probably thanks to Swedes and their crusades, legislation and other cultural work over hundreds of years... Or perhaps we just have gotten alzheimers.

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-01-16 19:49:38
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I didn't know where to put this thread exactly, I figure Tolkien's name has far more caché than Ior Bock's - so books it is!

J.R.R. Tolkien couldn't possibly require any introduction around here, but he may require a radical re-appraisal. As the "official" story goes Tolkien began forming and writing the cosmology of Middle-Earth in his tent during WWI. This is where he came up with the supreme God (Eru Ilúvatar/Aulé) and the lesser gods (Ainur/Valar) of Middle Earth (Eä/Arda). The book in which this mythos is brought to life is undoubtedly Tolkien's magnum opus, it is of course - The Silmarillion. It goes back to back to the point of primordial nothingness, where Eru Ilúvatar creates the Ainur to sing the song of creation.

Now, here's where reality gives Tolkien a run for his considerable posthumous estate.

The Bock Saga

Abstract: Ior Bock, the last of the Bock Family lineage is the official story keeper of humanity. His family line goes back thousands of years to the very origins of humanity's root races. This was when "We" could all access the Shamballa-like land around the central mountain of Earth.

This is where the speculation about Tolkien begins to tie in. In addition to being a prolific writer, Tolkien was also a prolific linguistics researcher who spent a fair amount of time in Scandinavia and Finland in particular. For those who aren't aware, the Finnish language is quite the conundrum. It is part of a larger language grouping called Finno-Ugaritic, Ugarit being an ancient port city in modern day Syria. Finno-Ugaritic is part of the Semitic language base that includes Akkadian, Chaldean, Babylonian, Assyrian, Phoenician, and the oldest of all Sumerian. Even more tantalizing is how modern Finnish allegedly has more in common with Sumerian syntactically than Akkadian did 5000 years ago.

Who would have known about these linguistic intricacies and subtleties?
-Tolkien

There are many theories that he received a deeper, secret oral version of the Kalevala and the Eddas. The Kalevala being the foundational mythology of Finland.
The Kalevala Index

Even to the casual observer Gandalf is Väinämöinen, and I'd doubt Tolkien would refute it. He might even insultingly say something to the effect of "congratulations you can read." [As an aside; from Tolkien's private correspondences he seemed like a cranky dude]

There are many links here, but I'd recommend starting with the Bock Saga THC. As far as alternative research podcasts go it is really one of the best out there. I'm not shilling for it, I just respect the consistent quality. Here's the rest of what I have:
Väinämöinen: The Finnish Deity and Hero Who Inspired Tolkien to Create Gandalf and Tom Bombadil
Revelation13.net: Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings" - and Finland
The Bock Saga vs. the Lord of the Rings
Does The Bock Saga lead on to the Lord Of The Rings? - Page 5
Tolkien’s Middle-Earth, true History? - World Mysteries Blog

I'm looking to become the three-eyed raven, myself. Need some storyteller insights...

 

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Username: PairAlleles
Date: 2020-02-09 00:27:37
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this is the first in a series of the most recent excavation work in 2019, the channel has several other related videos from prior travels relating to the Bok saga:


... making my way through them now