Coronavirus: Possible Reset

Will Scarlet said:
There are many reports coming through to various groups in Telegram from Indian people warning that all the CV news from India is totally fake. They are refusing the vaccine and it's not compulsory. There is also virtually zero mask wearing. (Could all be fake itself of course.) Reports such as the one above are to scare 'rejectors' in other parts of the world, imo.
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Yeah there is loads of stuff on the telegram channels that blow the Indian narrative apart, this is one such.

Corona Conspiracy

Brutal place India though, some discretion is needed if you are of a sensitive disposition.
 
Vagabond said:
revolting

its time to talk about prions again. and prion degenerative diseases. this is the outcome of covid, and the vaccine is a compunder. prions are the key. will post info tomorrow
for a taster, start here

https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe...d/659775_ebca38540f7e4273a73e6b6e26a51be0.pdfand look into a neanderthal connection.
they KNOW we all have prion diseases. and we are gonna go zombie. the vaccine is a panic move. but it WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM
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In your 'taster' pdf there is this;

"Following infection, SARS-CoV-2 genomic material 72 was detected in tracheal and nasal swabs up to ten days, and based on clinical signs and thorax 73CTs, all animals showed mild to moderate disease symptoms(13, 15)."

The problem with that statement is that there is no isolated and purified sample to model the detection on, PCR is not a valid form of detection as has been pointed out already by the court case in Portugal.

And there is also this recent paper;

SARS-CoV-2 May Not Insert Genetic Material Into Human DNA​

The virus that causes COVID-19, which scientists refer to as SARS-CoV-2, likely does not integrate its genetic material into the genes of humans, according to a study published in the Journal of Virology.

A separate study recently reported the virus's genetic material was found to have integrated into human DNA in cells in petri dishes. But the scientists conducting the newer research now say that result was most likely caused by genetic artifacts in the testing.

Majid Kazemian, a Purdue University assistant professor of biochemistry and computer science and one of the three co-lead authors on the research study, said that this finding has two important implications.

"Relatively little is known about why some individuals persistently test positive for the virus even long after clearing the infection. This is important because it’s not clear whether such individuals have been re-infected or whether they continue to be infectious to others. So-called 'human genome invasion' by SARS-CoV-2 has been suggested as an explanation for this observation, but our data do not support this case.

"If the virus was able to integrate its genetic material into the human genome, that could have meant that any other mRNA could do the same. But because we have shown that this is not supported by current data, this should allay any concerns about the safety of mRNA vaccines, he said."

It is possible for the genetic material of some viruses to be incorporated into the DNA of humans and other animals, resulting in what scientists call "chimeric events." Human DNA contains approximately 100,000 pieces of DNA from viruses that our species have accumulated over millions of years of evolution. In total, this lost-and-found DNA from viruses makes up a bit less than 10% of the genetic material in our cells.

Recent scientific journal articles have claimed that the SARS-CoV-2 virus can also cause these chimeric events. Even before this new research team conducted experiments showing this was not the case, the researchers suspected it was unlikely, said Dr. Ben Afzali, an Earl Stadtman Investigator of the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases and a co-lead author on the study.

"While an earlier study suggested that, in cells infected with SARS-CoV-2, genetic material from the virus copied and pasted itself into human DNA, our group thought this seemed unlikely,” Afzali said. “SARS-CoV-2, like HIV, has its genetic material in the form of RNA but, unlike HIV, does not have the machinery to convert the RNA into DNA. SARS-CoV-2 is unlikely to paste itself into the genome and coronaviruses, in general, does not go near human DNA. As our study shows, we find it highly improbable that SARS-CoV-2 could integrate into the human genome.”

Christiane Wobus, associate professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Michigan Medical School, also a co-lead author on the study, said that although the collective understanding of RNA viruses is that integration of SARS-CoV-2 into the human genome would be very unlikely, it was important to examine the question.

"Unexpected findings in science — when confirmed independently — lead to paradigm shifts and propel fields forward. Therefore, it is good to be open-minded and examine unexpected results carefully, which I believe we did in our study," she said. "However, we did not find conclusive evidence for SARS-CoV-2 integration, but instead showed that during the RNA sequencing methodology, chimeras are produced at a very low level as an artifact of the laboratory technique."

To examine the proposed integration event, the researchers developed a novel technique in which they extracted the genetic material from infected cells and then amplified or reproduced the genetic material 30-fold. If there were chimeric events in the host cell DNA, these bits of genetic material from SARS-CoV-2 should also increase 30 times. The data did not show this.

"We found the frequency of host-virus chimeric events was, in fact, not greater than background noise," Kazemian said. "When we enriched the SARS-CoV-2 sequences from the bulk RNA of infected cells, we found that the chimeric events are, in all likelihood, artifacts. Our work does not support the claim that SARS-CoV-2 fuses or integrates into human genomes."

This research was supported by the National Institute of General Medical Sciences of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant R35GM138283 and in part by the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, project number ZIA/DK075149, and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, project number ZIA/AI001175.

Reference: Yan B, Chakravorty S, Mirabelli C, et al. Host-virus chimeric events in SARS-CoV2 infected cells are infrequent and artifactual. J Virol. 2021:JVI.00294-21. doi:10.1128/JVI.00294-21.
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Source:

SARS-CoV-2 May May Not Insert Genetic Material Into Human DNA

However, I am skeptical of this statement:

"If the virus was able to integrate its genetic material into the human genome, that could have meant that any other mRNA could do the same. But because we have shown that this is not supported by current data, this should allay any concerns about the safety of mRNA vaccines, he said."

So if he's right and the mRNA is a red herring, then what part of the vaccine is the bio-weapon?
 
Akanah said:
The most people which are older then 60 years get their catastrophe-story as like cold war or world war 1 or 2.
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Nope, sorry. I am older than 60 and I have no such "catastrophe story." I suppose a lot depends upon your definition of a catastrophe and, more importantly, a 'reset'. Do you mean a traumatic event on a national/international scale or something that wiped out all worldwide administrative, financial and social systems?

Akanah said:
Adults in the 90´s were systemically relevant or not ? Children were not !
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I don't really understand this, perhaps you could elaborate.
 
Vagabond said:
I believe a mixture of things is going on.

1. mass hypnosis and hypnotism.
2. something real that is affecting certain areas.
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Just speculation. I do think heavy metal toxicity including fluoride, aluminum, mercury, etc. may be contributing to both cases. There were those old internet conspiracy theories stating fluoride inhibits the pineal gland. If true, then the masses who've been using fluoride toothpastes their entire life may be very vulnerable to this mass hypnosis. Personally, I haven't used such a thing in 10 years whereas my friends and family who have, appear to be blind to many recent psyops. Curious if people have a similar observation.

Another point. I do think our physical and spiritual health are tied together. Esoteric teachers such as Edgar Cayce placed a great importance on the endocrine system as the metaphysical gateway. So people may psychosomatically will their sickness into reality if their glands have been compromised by toxic metals and/or they do not develop a strong spiritual mindset thru meditation.
 
Vagabond said:
Well, Im pretty sure something is going on. Is sars-cov-2 real? Is Covid-19 real? People who have been ill feel it is. People who havent and dont know anyone who has, feel it isnt.

I believe a mixture of things is going on.

1. mass hypnosis and hypnotism.
2. something real that is affecting certain areas.
3. the cure is worse than the disease.


Anyway, Im not on board with the idea there is nothing happening to many peoples health. I think there is something, I just dont know what is causing it, and Im going to keep researching until I can figure it out, thats just how my mind works.
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Very good thoughts. I'm not sure about #3 though. I have a theory that the vaccine is real, but it is meant to protect against the next virus that will be released, in order to kill off all the dissenters who didn't get the vaccine. The elite didn't get to be the elite, by being stupid. Whatever is being planned, it will not be easily figured out.
AgentOrange5 said:
Very good thoughts. I'm not sure about #3 though. I have a theory that the vaccine is real, but it is meant to protect against the next virus that will be released, in order to kill off all the dissenters who didn't get the vaccine. The elite didn't get to be the elite, by being stupid. Whatever is being planned, it will not be easily figured out.
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To add on this post, I am amazed at how many people believe Robert Kennedy, Naomi Wolfe, etc. These people are elite, presenting themselves as opposition, but it is controlled opposition. Take everything they say with a grain of salt. If the alternative to the MSM is prominently speaking out on Twitter and other venues, you can rest assured they are not alternative.
 
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Vagabond said:
But you cannot just say, No , nothing is possibly going on , and dismiss everything. That is not an enquiring mind, or a truth seeker.
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I didn't say that. Lots of things are going on. Specifically, a virus isn't one of them, however. Jon Rappaport is very good at summarising such factors. German New Medicine also bears some scrutiny.
 
Vagabond said:
But I really do not believe in all illnesses are self induced through mindset. I cant get on board with that.
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I think you missed my point. The pineal gland is part of our brain. So it being compromised would theoretically inhibit our thinking. Yes, the illness or perception of illness is literally in our mind, but external factors like toxic metals, 5G, and EMF may have created the condition for such a thing to arise.

I also think you underestimate the power of peer mimicry. Why do women in a social group synchronize their menstrual cycles to the most dominant female? Why does a baby donkey raised by dogs start behaving like a puppy? Is it possible that people mimick disease or that they succumb to such due to the overwhelming fear caused by the media? Again, fear is, in my opinion, a negative condition of the mind which can be mitigated thru positive thinking & meditation.
 
Vagabond said:
It feels like a lot of big egos typing here, everyone talks as if they all have it completely worked out, their way is THE way, science is settled type responses.

I think this is pretty incredible and dangerous. What happened to questioning and discussing?

And really if you all know all the answers to everything, what are you even doing here discussing it?
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What it feels like to you is your interpretation of the discussion and the resulting feelings.

I suggest the following:

Research the virus theory mainly from sources that have put up arguments against it as we already know what mainstream science says about the subject. It goes back to the Pasteur vs. Bechamp debate but includes many virologist and molecular biologists of recent. Without this info, you can't make a sound argument to those here who have done their research in this area. Basically if you've followed all the info in this thread from the beginning, watched the videos, read the quoted documents, you'd have the necessary background.

Without knowing what 'viruses', exosomes and macrophages are you are limited in your knowledge and react emotionally when others discount your point of view as you have not shown that you are aware of these aspects that counter the germ theory.

Regarding 5G:

There is starting to be a consensus that this technology has a negative impact on health with the symptoms being similar to those of pneumonia among others. This subject should be followed up for any new research and conclusions resulting from it. The book 'The Invisible Rainbow' has much information regarding the possible connection between electricity/electromagnetism and the rise in human illness.

Regarding mass illness:

Given actual death counts globally, it is evident that there is NO pandemic. There is also evidence regarding additional deaths resulting from other factors from the plandemic such as increased suicides, chronically ill not receiving their necessary operation, the elderly being locked away without their families by their side, reduced immunity from mask-wearing and fear, etc.

Regarding biological warfare:

While it is possible that certain 'agents' may be used in certain countries or certain environments at certain times, from what we think we 'know' to date regarding this is that so-called germ warfare (actually biological warfare) is NOT based on viruses or mRNA, but on poisons. There is also info available in this forum regarding this, in fact I posted a video on germ warfare a while back which purports this likelihood.

Here are two posts from me with videos on biological warfare;

A brief history of Variolation and Vaccination methods of inoculation

The long version:

Coronavirus: Possible Reset

Vagabond said:
I also feel incredibly frustrated that not one person has had any natural curiosity to find out what these changes were that have happened, and help decipher them. Only, no no, illness is all in your mind, and its just fear. Everyone here already knows the answer to everything, so just shut up. Thats the vibe.

I think thats it for me then. I need more curious minds.
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We are all curious mind here, that's why we're here at all (at least most of us). ;-)

No, everyone does not know the answer to everything, me included, however with each passing day, week, month, year of research, we begin to see more of the puzzle by qualifying or disqualifying theories and 'facts' that are put to us.

If you want people to engage you on an even footing, you have to acquire the background research necessary to counter their arguments.

Posting things like this:

Vagabond said:
the narrative here in this thread with some key players seems to be,

1.no illness is real. if you get ill, its your own fault because you were negative, didnt meditate enough and dont realise that everything is an illusion.

2. no large amounts of people ever died of any illness ever.

3. vaccines can do damage and harm, and we should believe people who say they have been damaged by vaccines, but this illness that has been happening to many people is made up, can ever do harm and if it does, its your own fault.

4. terrain theory is the real culprit for everything, but not in the aspect of this "pandemic". we cannot entertain the thought something external in these key places terrains was doing something to them.

5. ignore everything, if it doesnt fit with your denial agenda.

Seems like the ole ostritch sticking its head in the sand maneuver.
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... make you look bad and you will not be taken seriously.

1. Not said by anyone. You putting words in people's mouth.
2. Ditto.
3. Ditto.
4. Ditto.
5. Ditto.

So from now on please DO NOT attribute generalizations made by you to other users of the forum.

Instead, quote their comment and counter it with your own argument with references. This will show that you have done your research and can stick to a subject without generalizing.

Keep in mind that many non-members read this forum and this style of discussion is NOT what they come here for. Those who return come for information presented by critical thinkers who research, present their ideas after having done so, and engage in discourse with others respectfully.
 
Vagabond said:
Well. I guess its all fear then.
Im terribly fearful and this is why when I move significantly geographically, my strange health problems that correlate to symptoms connected to Convid and the vaccines pushed for them, disappear. And then why when I come back, they reappear.

Its all in my mind cause Im so fearful.

No, Im sorry, I reject that.

I also feel incredibly frustrated that not one person has had any natural curiosity to find out what these changes were that have happened, and help decipher them. Only, no no, illness is all in your mind, and its just fear. Everyone here already knows the answer to everything, so just shut up. Thats the vibe.

I think thats it for me then. I need more curious minds.
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I did not post the video to reject what you are saying. No one can say they know what TPTB are up to with what is real and what is not. I posted the video as general information about fear. Sorry.
 
Vagabond said:
I do see you have a tendency to say the same lines to anyone who questions the theory you have decided on. You are talking down to me, and have to theirs who questioned certain core members ideas of the settled narrative. I do not appreciate it.
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Vagabond said:
If i dont agree with the consensus here, no one will take me seriously? SERIOUSLY? That is really rude.
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Firstly, I'm not talking down to you and I appreciate all that you have contributed to the forum. As you said, you have been a long-term contributing member and you certainly deserve respect as we all do.

If there is a consensus (there may be one to a small extent), it is based on the research I mentioned which was read, watched, listened to and contemplated on be those who adhere to this 'consensus'.

Engaging in debate regarding this is healthy and welcome, but by only using your personal view without quoting any references to info which gives rise to that view, does not allow anyone to debate you based on your sources and reasoning, and must automatically debate your ideas, making the debate more personal for you.

The so-called consensus is nothing more than individuals whom, having processed all the information regarding the subject in this forum and elsewhere, have put the pieces together to draw the same conclusions.

Does this mean that this is the sacred cow? By no means. What it does mean is that if you do not agree with this 'consensus' you are free to change it by;

- adding new info for consideration
- disqualifying the info used to derive the 'consensus' by adding valid contrary info

Had you done this, we would not be having this discussion.

Vagabond said:
I personally take other peoples and MY OWN personal observations and experiences in real life much more SERIOUSLY than debates online with people who have had no personal experience with the matter at hand.
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I understand what you are saying and I think most of us would prefer to be able to base our understanding on personal experiences but we would only know a fraction of what we know if this was indeed the case. If we can't SHARE knowledge without having to personally experience it all, we would advance very slowly as a society.

I can't comment on your observations but I can on mine. I have also come across individuals in my circle of acquaintances who have taken a similar stance to you. There MUST be SOMETHING.

The possibilities are many. The discussion is open. But to try and understand the cause and effect we must ask the obvious questions and process the answers;

How, where did they get sick?
What were their symptoms?
What medical, psychological tests did they have? What were the results?
In case of death, was there an autopsy? What were the results?
Were they given drugs? What kind?
Did they receive treatments? When, what and how much?
Were they wearing masks over long periods?
Did they have any disposition to certain types of illness?

I hope you agree, these can all be contributing factors and pieces of the puzzle.

Vagabond said:
If i dont agree with the consensus here, no one will take me seriously?
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Come on, as a long-term member you know better. Going with consensus is not what gets others to take you seriously. A parrot can go along with consensus. :)

As mentioned, a sincere hypothesis with supported references is all it takes.

Vagabond said:
If you have no interest in entertaining the idea that something in fact is going on, and that some people might have personal experiences that can help put the puzzle pieces together, and suggest I havent read all the info here in this thread, just because I do not agree with all of it
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SOMETHING is going on. People having personal experiences ARE helping to put the pieces of the puzzle together, like the many videos, comments of personal experiences posted in this thread.

And the second part of your sentence..... NO.
Once again you are putting words in other people's mouth, this time mine.

I surmised that you haven't read, watched all of the info in this thread entirely based on your lack of effort to counter the info you don't agree with, in your own words with your own reasoning, backed by the references that caused you to form your point of view.

Vagabond said:
I do feel my time here is done. I sincerely hope your life continues to be untouched by this crap, and you can live in your personal bubble of denial and so smart superiority forever
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Even though you ARE writing in a way which you claimed I did (condescending towards the other), I do not feel that your time here is done unless you continue to feel that way.

Take the time to read over the sequence of posts which have brought us to this, consider all that has been said objectively and if you would like to advance your point of view, do so showing your ability for critical thinking by;

- adding new info for consideration
- disqualifying the info used to derive the 'consensus' by adding valid contrary info

and please refrain from condescending comments in future.
 
If there was a virus, there would be no need for wall to wall propaganda, you would not need to be convinced of it's existence.

Get off the mainstream and have a look beyond, Telegram is one of the last one not owned by the big six so not yet victim of the censorship.

The magnet sticking to folks is getting debunked as a parlour trick that is being promoted on the big six, remember they only allow you to see what they want you to see.

No virus means the vax is what is doing damage, also means the shedding is horse dung, cos if viruses worked they would not need the vax, the shedding story is IMO to get people who are on the fence to throw the towel in, you know cos if the vaxxed are shedding there is just no hope and we may as well get the vax.

I spent a good few months between July and Oct last year driving for a charity that had me going around to hospitals, old folks homes, rehabs and hospices, the one thing they all had in common were they were, excuse the pun, dead, the only time there was a bit of activity was when they had a film crew in to catch some nurses dancing, this was just before we got another lockdown to "prevent a medical and moral disaster for the NHS"
 
Covid vaccinated people have been injected with graphene nanoparticles. Checked on all covid vaccines. It is not known exactly what this produces but it can be observed that they alter electric fields or induce magnetism. Magnetic and non-magnetic metals are being attracted to their arms and other areas of the body.
They are putting the same in the PCR tests, also in vaccines for influenza, hepatitis B, epidurals ...
The objective is supposed to be to launch these particles into the brain, they are working on a vaccine that is inhaled through the nose, the trip would be direct.
The best source of information is a twitch channel in Spanish @laquintacolumna.
However, it is something that you can see for yourself. If the arm does not "magnetize" try neck, back, head, nose for PRC... Sometimes you have to leave the metal object for a while and the vaccinated person feels something that runs their arm and the "magnetism" acts.
You can also check it with a magnetic field meter.
Sadly true.
 
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