SH Archive Ditch Tesla, buy Babcock Runabout: 1,244 miles on one battery in 1909

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How many electric car models do you know of the top of your head? Probably three or four. If you are really into it, may be ten, though I'm not even sure there are ten contemporary electric car models out there. Well, in the beginning of the 20th century there were hundreds of different models. A few of those models you can observe in the attachments representing just one 1907 catalog. In reality there were many more. I mean like WAY more!

Appears, one hundred years ago electric cars were a pretty common sight on the streets. I have heard that there were electric cars back then, but not to this degree. Many of those cars have a range comparable to their today's counterparts. 1908 Fritchle Model A Victoria had the exact same range as 2010 Nissan Leaf.

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Then in 1909 the Fritchle Electric coupe toured 2,140 miles from Lincoln, NE to Washington DC through 10 states. This Electric Automobile averaged 90 miles per day of travel. Advertising claims 100 miles per charge. In 1916 Fritchle announced a gasoline-electric automobile with a four cylinder air cooled engine. They sold very few and the following year abandoned all production.

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I do not really know what to think about the below "Route of the 1244-mile tour through Illinois on one battery in a $ 1,600 Babcock Runabout." The original is being kept at the New York Public Library. I will base my opinion on more comprehensible distances.

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Electrical West, Volume 22.

1907 Electric Cars

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1907 Electric Trucks

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This lady is charging her Columbia Victoria Mark 68 in 1912.
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Technology of the previous civilization

The very first electric car, supposedly, was presented by Siemens and Halske in 1882. And those early electric cars looked neat, but very primitive. It also appears that most body styles were derived from those available in horse-drawn carriages. And with all this visual simplicity, these vehicles had ranges we were only able to mass produce in the 21st century. Let us take a look at the battery powering 2010 Nissan Leaf which is equal in range to 1908 Fritchle Model A Victoria.

Nissan Leaf Battery Visuals

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  • Number of battery modules in a Nissan Leaf: 48
  • Number of cells per module: 4
  • Weight of pack: 300 kilograms (660 pounds)
  • Amount of lithium in the pack: 4 grams
  • 192 laminated prismatic cells
  • 360 V nominal voltage
1908 Fritchle Model A Victoria had a 28-cell lead-acid battery weighing 400–600 lb. I was not able to find a picture of the Fritchle battery, but apparently it was powerful enough to tow an Oldsmobile. And the below letter of appreciation from a grateful customer speaks volumes.

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1908 100-MILE FRITCHLE ELECTRIC - read those battery feedback letters. Amazing.​

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The Fritchle batteries generally lasted for more than 10,000 mi and could be replaced at a cost of US$208. The cars were advertised and trademarked as "100-mile Fritchle Electrics," and they lived up to this claim. Another feature of the Fritchle was a regeneration system in which the motor became a generator when the car was coasting downhill, thereby partly recharging the batteries.

Yes, the max speed of 1908 Fritchle Model A Victoria was only 22 MPH. Nissan Leaf is also heavier 3,300 lbs vs. 2,100 lbs for 1908 Fritchle Model A Victoria. But we are talking about 1908. Today's battery makers have over 100 years of scientific R&D experience on those from the late 19th - early 20th century, and we are still at about 350 miles per charge.

Those people from over a century back, with their extremely limited scientific base were able to achieve similar things we are enjoying today. Where did this "ahead of its time" technology come from? I do not believe there was sufficient time for the natural, research based development for this quality level of power storage in 1900. Such a sharp technological contrast between the simplicity of the vehicle body and the durability of the power unit, suggests different levels of development. It's like the technology just fell into someone's lap. Be it in a way of documentation, or a whole warehouse fool of batteries.

What about the infrastructure required for production of all these electric cars? The catalog above probably contains 5% of all the electric cars produced at the time. Just pick at the below list of Early Electric Automobile Manufacturers. And those are electric cars only.

Early Electric Automobile Manufacturers
Ugly crooked wooden utility poles, and dirt streets next to beautiful Colonial buildings (not yet discussed), ridiculous sails on gigantic 700 ft long iron ships, high quality pneumatic train cars replaced by benches on wheels, and many other things - all these are indicators of the unknown factor silently existing in our most recent past. The pneumatic train and electric car technologies quickly went away. Official reasons were similar: not profitable, not enough customers. Semi-official reason: gas sales bring more money. I think the real reason was that gifted technology without sufficient understanding is prone to being lost. They simply were unable to do anything with it.

It's so easy to explain everything by an "Industrial Revolution" excuse. We were dumb and stupid for centuries, and all over sudden everyone got smart at the same time. And only these little big mismatches stick out. They are only visible if you look, for if you don't, they are invisible. Well camouflaged by the fake historical non-sense they are. Our society prefers not to see all the contradictions hiding in the mysterious 19th century (and recent history in general.) I wonder why?
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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-04-20 18:58:38
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weird, atmospheric eletricity powered maybe?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-04-23 02:58:22
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I do not see any receiving antennas, or anything suggesting that it could be. Do you?

The lady in the picture has her car clearly plugged in too.
 
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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-04-23 18:05:16
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nope, i am saying it because the period is right for that
 
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Username: wanderer
Date: 2018-04-28 00:40:00
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What the heck? You would expect to learn in school about electrically powered cars 100 years old. All that ancient technology you dig out and present on your site... It leads me to a possible explanation: "They" or other external forces (I like to call him the architect) are changing our common history right now as we speak. This includes Mandela effects. It seems that at any point in history new technologies were "introduced" via letting some "special" people discover them. Beforehand you need to adjust the timelines so that people won't freak out completely. At the same time you alter the past to make current thing appear more plausible. This all fits right into the holographic approach of our world: Nothing is fixed; future, present and past are contained and moldeable right now in this very moment. Ideas are - after being introduced - accessible globally.
I have an endless amount of fringe material collected and all the stuff on this site just fits right into it...
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-04-28 02:10:02
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Well, on a smaller scale it is not really visible. And all of us live in a moment of sorts. Some things we can clearly try to figure out, because there are specific events which took place not that long ago. Unfortunately even for something 100 years old there is no information, and the society accepts the most bizarre of things as something normal.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-04-28 17:30:49
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I think the majority of the world does. Can’t blame people. The truth, whatever it might be, is not gonna put food on nobody’s table.

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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-23 08:44:52
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Holy cow that list of electric cars. I knew electric cars were more prominent in the early 20th centuries, but not at this extent!

Interesting to note that every time electric cars manage to get more popular, it is immediately taken out of the market. Most notable example was General Motors EV1
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-23 14:18:53
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That’s a weird event they created back in the day. Almost like the GM made thousands of cars without permission.

While customer reaction to the EV1 was positive, GM believed that electric cars occupied an unprofitable niche of the automobile market, and ended up crushing most of the cars, regardless of protesting customers.
 
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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-07-23 15:37:22
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I had a Chevy Volt for a few years, but moving meant I had to give up the charging ability. What a great car. Anyway, I do house research locally and I was going back looking at one of the houses I owned years ago and found this. This is from 1913:

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I was kinda shocked to see this, not sure why. I guess I really didn't think there were as many electric vehicles on the road back then. Sure enough...
 
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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-07-23 22:10:59
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House research? That's pretty cool! And nice find there.
 
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Username: wizz33
Date: 2018-07-25 23:15:03
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i am slowly reading trough this site an one of the battery Techs could be this.
it has 12 big chapters with sources.

i think the late Tartaria had a compressed air driven variant of this Centrifugal Energy Amplification and Conversion Unit by Donnie C. Watts

Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices
 
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Username: pushamaku
Date: 2018-07-25 23:50:20
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Or there will be a somewhat painful paradigm shift and the masses will let go of fear induced illusions and nobody need worry about such triviality. Capitalism, consumerism, ism schism is just ego driven juvenile nonsense that keeps us all enslaved. We need to stop being herded like cattle and start tapping into our inherent creative potential in harmony with the source and enjoy the ride.
 
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Username: HengistErbse
Date: 2018-08-25 14:19:06
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Thats exactly what i think, reminds me of slavery where you allowed to buy things only from your Masters Store. (Petroleum Company).
Electrical Cars give you the Illusion of an nice green future.
 
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Username: Timeshifter
Date: 2019-02-12 20:43:07
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100% with you KD.

We were pretty simple at this point, found stuff, figured some out, mothballed others, maybe stumbled upon gasoline whilst trying to figure out found tech, realised that gas could be profitable, shelved the rest, surpressed it until we had maybe figured it out, and could charge for the luxury, under the banner of climate change...

Easy to see when you take a step back a little.

All back engineered from found tech, not alien, that just muddys the water for regular folks :)
 
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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2019-03-05 04:06:01
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Judging by the hat and the sweet wheels on that wagon, I would put this picture anywhere from i787-1894.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-03-05 04:32:44
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This one is apparently: 3.5 Ton Electric Truck, Alex Pickering Transfer Company, 1918 Salt Lake City, UT. Unsure of the year it was made though.

For those wishing to see a whole bunch of these: Electric Truck Articles Archive.

If you feel like owning a similar one, you can have this 106 year old one. Unfortunately batteries are not included.
  • This particular Commercial Truck Company Model A 10 Standard was built in Philadelphia in 1912 and used locally by the Curtis Publishing Company for more than 50 years to deliver The Saturday Evening Post, Ladies' Home Journal, and other publications to the post office and area newsstands, according to the seller's representative. The publisher eventually purchased 22 C-T trucks to haul paper, coal, and waste, replacing dozens of horses it had previously used. It retired its electric truck fleet in 1964.
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(+1) New Zealand Express Co. Trucks Delivering
Michelin Tires in Christchurch, New Zealand
This powerful and easy to operate electric truck was popular worldwide for the delivery of goods in larger cities and continued to be used until as late as the 1950s. This pair of British Orwell Electric Trucks are loaded with wrapped pairs of Michelin Tires and are set to go off on a delivery mission for the New Zealand Express Co. Ltd. in the City of Christchurch.

The electric motor, much like a steam engine, can produce 100-percent torque from zero-r.p.m.; that feature along with the elimination of the transmission make the electric ideal for easy-driving heavy-duty hauling. The short distances a truck making local deliveries would cover in a day was well within the batteries range.

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Additional make: Walker Electric Truck - Wikipedia
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-03-20 20:32:08
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Electric everything over 100 years ago.
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Street cars, trains even the line repair crews pickup was electric!
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I wonder which companies were making these remarkably slimline batteries, what type they were and how many hours of use they had pe day?
 
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