Flat Earth

In an alternate universe, timeline, or reality, planets may have more linear 2D physicality. Anything is possible.
However, Im of the humble opinion that our efforts are better suited to historical mysteries that need solving soon, for the world is waking up and we are on the front lines of a war. The enemy of freedom, awareness, truth, and self-determination is at our doorstep. Triage of topics is a necessary tool.
I humbly agree. We’ll never know the truth anyway until (if) man or woman travels to the stars and gets to see what Earth looks like.

I truly believe people have seen Earth from far away. By all accounts it looks like an egg, but mostly spherical.
There has to be an international secret space program for why did President Trump pass the Space Mining Bill?
Asteroids and the Moon and Mars have been occupied and mined for a few decades now. Thats my belief.

The shape of the Earth is subjective, it pertains to the viewer's intention. It can be whatever you want.
 
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why did President Trump pass the Space Mining Bill?

I think they've been trying to help transition some amount of these secret things back into the public, while making it seem plausible that they are happening in real time and not uncovering a long-time secret black ops program. I suspect that's what the purpose of Tesla (or rather Space-X) is in that they've created a partnership in the private sector that they can use to make it look like they're making incredible leaps in progress in the public eye over a short period of time, meanwhile what you aren't seeing is that they're just declassifying tech we've developed in secrecy since Roswell (or Von Bron research, or whatever you want to attribute it to). Space-X will get the credit for making it easier to go back and forth into space, and it's plausible because of the reputation that Tesla created along with the Elon Musk's persona. Because if you think of it, let's say that we do have the ability to mine the moon. The public perception right now is that in the 50 years since the moon landing, we've lost the technology to get back there. So if suddenly we just show up on the moon and start mining it for resources, that's going to set off a few alarms in the skeptic community. But now we've at least made a narrative that people believe, and now we don't have to hide this technology anymore that is better off being used for public good.

same thing with how they seem to prepping us for a UFO declassification with those stories about "off world vehicles" and a task force to study these craft that the Navy confirms exist but that they don't know what they are. Trump may not be the one doing this, it could just be occuring at this time regardless of who is in office.

I'm still skeptical of Space-X though. Watching that manned crew launch was bizarre. there was zero rattle or vibration in that launch, those two guys just sat there in those chairs like they were riding the Amtrak Acela quiet car. And to think that a space craft is going to operate via a touchpad panel has got to be a joke, especially with a gloved hand. None of it looked real. But it makes more sense to me if it fills in that gap between the moon landing and now and we were advancing this technology while in public we thought we just gave up on exploring space.
 
In an alternate universe, timeline, or reality, planets may have more linear 2D physicality. Anything is possible.
However, Im of the humble opinion that our efforts are better suited to historical mysteries that need solving soon, for the world is waking up and we are on the front lines of a war. The enemy of freedom, awareness, truth, and self-determination is at our doorstep. Triage of topics is a necessary tool.
I humbly agree. We’ll never know the truth anyway until (if) man or woman travels to the stars and gets to see what Earth looks like.

I truly believe people have seen Earth from far away. By all accounts it looks like an egg, but mostly spherical.
There has to be an international secret space program for why did President Trump pass the Space Mining Bill?
Asteroids and the Moon and Mars have been occupied and mined for a few decades now. Thats my belief.
Yes, I found that quite surprising. It would certainly explain all the efforts made to convince us that there were no lunar landings.
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why did President Trump pass the Space Mining Bill?

I think they've been trying to help transition some amount of these secret things back into the public, while making it seem plausible that they are happening in real time and not uncovering a long-time secret black ops program. I suspect that's what the purpose of Tesla (or rather Space-X) is in that they've created a partnership in the private sector that they can use to make it look like they're making incredible leaps in progress in the public eye over a short period of time, meanwhile what you aren't seeing is that they're just declassifying tech we've developed in secrecy since Roswell (or Von Bron research, or whatever you want to attribute it to). Space-X will get the credit for making it easier to go back and forth into space, and it's plausible because of the reputation that Tesla created along with the Elon Musk's persona. Because if you think of it, let's say that we do have the ability to mine the moon. The public perception right now is that in the 50 years since the moon landing, we've lost the technology to get back there. So if suddenly we just show up on the moon and start mining it for resources, that's going to set off a few alarms in the skeptic community. But now we've at least made a narrative that people believe, and now we don't have to hide this technology anymore that is better off being used for public good.

same thing with how they seem to prepping us for a UFO declassification with those stories about "off world vehicles" and a task force to study these craft that the Navy confirms exist but that they don't know what they are. Trump may not be the one doing this, it could just be occuring at this time regardless of who is in office.

I'm still skeptical of Space-X though. Watching that manned crew launch was bizarre. there was zero rattle or vibration in that launch, those two guys just sat there in those chairs like they were riding the Amtrak Acela quiet car. And to think that a space craft is going to operate via a touchpad panel has got to be a joke, especially with a gloved hand. None of it looked real. But it makes more sense to me if it fills in that gap between the moon landing and now and we were advancing this technology while in public we thought we just gave up on exploring space.
Very interesting idea. A secret within a secret within a secret.
 
By all accounts it looks like an egg, but mostly spherical.
This is some coincidence!
http://justegg.co.uk/news/earth-egg-shaped.html
2 minutes ago | World
So do they actually have a pic or are they just saying so and also isn't voyager 2 a bit far away for a photo op??

https://www.inverse.com/science/nas...lly-back-online-11.5-billion-miles-from-earth
Think the term is oblate spheroid!

All a bit Arthur Dent!

https://petapixel.com/2015/09/30/5-ways-nasa-photoshops-images-to-create-stunning-photos-of-space/
 
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In an alternate universe, timeline, or reality, planets may have more linear 2D physicality. Anything is possible.
However, Im of the humble opinion that our efforts are better suited to historical mysteries that need solving soon, for the world is waking up and we are on the front lines of a war. The enemy of freedom, awareness, truth, and self-determination is at our doorstep. Triage of topics is a necessary tool.
I humbly agree. We’ll never know the truth anyway until (if) man or woman travels to the stars and gets to see what Earth looks like.

The always fascinating Rudolf Steiner – via his akashic access, so I guess you might argue he "saw" it – suggested that the Earth stands in the universe as "a rounded tetrahedron, as a kind of pyramid". Which is certainly a distinctive view.

He also didn't have very nice things to say about the Copernican view of the Earth moving around the Sun – at least in part because it meant man "could no longer seek the spirit in the ether in a sensory fashion" and Copernicus' ideas are "incapable of promoting any understanding of the spiritual foundations of the world" – although it turns out he wasn't advocating the geocentric model as such. Rather, in some sometimes contradictory seeming statements, that the Earth and the planets follow the Sun rather than revolving around it, by way of a corkscrew motion.

He did say, though, that in terms of the astral plane, the Ptolemaic model holds true and that "Ptolemy's system will be rehabilitated in an epoch yet to come". He considered this the correct picture of the world, but because of "man's sin" the Earth has gone over "into the kingdom of the Sun; the Sun has become regent and ruler of earthly activities". He also held the view that "the Sun is not physical and does not generate heat, but acts as a focal point for the reflection of cosmic forces".
 
This map, an azimuthal-equidistant projection, is how pilots used to navigate before Nasa and its subordinates invented the false systems called satellites and gps.
Notice how longitude lines splay out wider toward the south (the outer rim of Antarctica).
East and west are curved orientations that follow the circular lines of latitude.


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The Electric Universe is often seen as a torus.
The Infinite Plane forms the central accretion disk in which earth and other worlds are embedded.
Multiple planes may be stacked on earth other.
You can envisage the construction as an egg, apple, the Ygdrassil Tree, or even a donut.

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Obviously, they don't fly anywhere. All these NASA-USSR-etc. use occult oriental religious symbols.
All this is filmed in swimming pools, in flying planes, near the green screen. They send a bunch of confirmations that these are fakes in the press. It's just that if you read the newspapers, you can die laughing (as an example, my favorite news is that there was a hole in the ISS and they covered it up with a finger. They used to think that it was such a serious object as a Submarine)
Do not even think about all these Voyagers, Luna, the loss of documents on the flight to the Moon.
At least the UK has no space program. And all other countries steal a lot of money in this area.

Also people often see a bunch of UFOs :)
I saw it myself once. Some objects of Vimana, it is not clear who is sitting there. Most likely, evil managers of the planet and outsiders.

In terms of the shape of the earth, you need to be mentally prepared that the Geography may not be the same (Map is different; Copy-Paste to confuse; Single continent Asia Europe-Asia-USA; Australia like Antarctica with a fence and other jokes; in the middle HyperBorea - Hyperhole) and there may be new continents on our map (Let's call them Asgard and Agartha).
And all this on a super huge land from the Indian Vedas.
I will not be surprised at anything, it is necessary to practically check everything, study, fly on airships, ask questions.
They lied so many times that it's strange to trust them in ordinary matters))
"Вelieve the cop" (a prison expression about the constant attempt of the prison authorities to do nasty things, interrogate, set up, deceive, etc.)
 
@veeall my biggest question is similar to yours, but from the perspective of the horizon.

The concept of how they say that a ship sailing away from you starts to look like it disappears into the ocean because it is on the downside of the earth's curve that you can't see. That sounds nice but I don't feel like that works in practice, one of the better FE experiment videos I saw showed that with high-power zoom you can still see those "vanished" ships, it's more of a vanishing perspective effect.

But I think of curve in the horizon sense, from left to right in your field of view. I think the calculation is called 'arc minutes' or something. If you were able to measure how long your FOV is, which should be possible with known landmarks, and you were able to measure the amount of "drop" the center of your FOV, then you can calculate the rate of curve. This is a crude drawing, but green is horizon that you can see, red is just a flat line superimposed over the horizon, and yellow is some small amount of drop that you can measure of the earth's curveature.

I'm not convinced that calculation experiment would equal the circumference of the Earth. From googling various terms, the rate of the Earth's curve is supposed to be 1/8th of an inch over 100 feet. So if you can figure out how wide your FOV is (or half of it from center to left or center to right) you should be able to validate how much curve you should see at either end. We all know that even from the best of scenic views, there is no perceptible curve. My issue with that is that it seems like this would calculate out to a huuuuuuuuuge Earth. I know the Earth is very big, but I just really want to see the numbers prove out. I can drive a good chunk of a map in a day, you can fly a much much greater distance in the same amount of time. It's not impossibly huge. I feel like if you were able to prove there are shenanigans with what we're being told, this should be how you can prove it. It doesn't seem like it bends enough such that if you extrapolate that out you will get the 24,900 mile circumference. Based on that 1/8" inch calculation (assuming it is accurate) then in 2000 miles there should be 1100 feet of decline from the horizon. (maybe I didn't do the math right).

Recently David Blaine did that Ascencion special with the balloon. Here he's at 24,000 feet and you can overlay a line on this horizon and it doesn't drop anything on either end. it may look like its curved but it's due to some land features that are a different color close to the horizon, when you look at it closely. Now they say you can't detect curvature at this level, you have to over 35,000 feet. It just seems like it curves so little, how could it really be a ball 25000 miles in circumference. It's got to bend somewhere dammit.

Anyway, that's my rant. They teach you that you can see the curve when its a ship sailing from a harbor, but if you want to prove it for yourself, you can't because you have to nearly be in space to see the slightest amount of curve by the naked eye. why the discrepancy?

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There's a lot of light bending-compression going on at the horizon during daytime, reflections make islands float above the waterlevel, objects appearing sometimes closer, sometimes farther.

As for my previous posts, i must back of, if i had drawn the diagram correctly there would have been no discord. According to science no matter where you are on a planet, the light of Polaris comes parallel to earths axis.
 
@khaoz, you mean you don't believe there was a Dutch boy who plugged the hole on the space station? Why, that's tin foil crazy talk! ?

The video below demonstrates the ludicrousity of space in the first place.

The very idea that earth has a thin envelope of air defies all laws of physics.
. You just can't have a breathable atmosphere smack dab next to a total vacuum a mere 62 miles up. Gas laws require a container to keep air from escaping. Gases are required by law to equalize according to equations which all have a v (volume). Infinite space does not qualify as a volume.
. Then, the earth ball spins 1000 mph and orbits the sun at 66,600 mph, which requires molecures of oxygen and nitrogen to match those ginormous speeds.
. And then we have astro-nots, aka fake space actors, who again defy physics by floating outside the ISS. This flimsy structure absurdly maintains a pressurized cabin without exploding outwards , even when a meteorite punctures a wall.

I will repeat myself: scientists and physics teachers are well aware of these impossible and ridiculous Hollywood productions. They go along with them for the usual reasons. Just like doctors who know the Germ theory is a hoax.
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The first part of this short video shows what really happened to a man in a spacesuit decades ago when he was exposed to a vacuum chamber on earth.
He survived the experiment. That's when Nasa started doing its real space walks. In giant swimming pools in Star City near Moscow.
Now that is real Russuan collusion. Our Chinese "enemies" also play their parts in the NWO fake space programs.




View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-AIMg1sugI&t=6s
 
@khaoz, you mean you don't believe there was a Dutch boy who plugged the hole on the space station? Why, that's tin foil crazy talk! ?

The video below demonstrates the ludicrousity of space in the first place.

The very idea that earth has a thin envelope of air defies all laws of physics.
. You just can't have a breathable atmosphere smack dab next to a total vacuum a mere 62 miles up. Gas laws require a container to keep air from escaping. Gases are required by law to equalize according to equations which all have a v (volume). Infinite space does not qualify as a volume.
. Then, the earth ball spins 1000 mph and orbits the sun at 66,600 mph, which requires molecures of oxygen and nitrogen to match those ginormous speeds.
. And then we have astro-nots, aka fake space actors, who again defy physics by floating outside the ISS. This flimsy structure absurdly maintains a pressurized cabin without exploding outwards , even when a meteorite punctures a wall.

I will repeat myself: scientists and physics teachers are well aware of these impossible and ridiculous Hollywood productions. They go along with them for the usual reasons. Just like doctors who know the Germ theory is a hoax.
.........
The first part of this short video shows what really happened to a man in a spacesuit decades ago when he was exposed to a vacuum chamber on earth.
He survived the experiment. That's when Nasa started doing its real space walks. In giant swimming pools in Star City near Moscow.
Now that is real Russuan collusion. Our Chinese "enemies" also play their parts in the NWO fake space programs.




View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-AIMg1sugI&t=6s

I love one of the comments from that vid,

Excellent guys. NASA, NAZI , same, do you actually believe GOD would leave a door open for us to escape this realm, i think not, this realm is a prison realm, two doors , one to enter= birth, one to exit = death, thats it folks.

I am not a believer in the religious sense but do think there is an "architect" for want of a better word!
 
The fact that there is a big discussion about the shape of the world, in itself is indicating that humanity still hasn't figured that one out yet. Where there's smoke, there's a fire. NASA is definetely doing special effects trickery. For a trained eye it's easy to spot and sometimes even laughable (especially in their older footages). The US-military has a history of creating "special" motion pictures.

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@grav I quickly made these animations based on a higher resolution version of the map you posted... just to please my own curiousity. The ball version seems to fit the flight paths best. But then again, I would need to start digging on how those were measured and drawn in the first place...

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I am new to this forum and don't see an active thread on flat earth. Is there any interest in the topic?
SH's format is quite impressive. And imposing, to the point that navigating it is tricky for a simple mind like mine. Generic forums have become gross mockeries of their original designs, and so I am looking for a new home where I may spout my heresies, primarily the most basic hidden truth upon which all other distorted truths are based. The Infinite Plane of the Electric Universe.

My overall guesstimate of reality is a computer program which is crashed and rebooted every 300 years or so.

The gnostics may have had insights about our true history, starting with creation by an aeon named Sophia.
Who, if memory holds, became Gaia "in the flesh" so to speak.
I also respect ancient "myths" like that of Pyrrha and Deucalion, who threw rocks over their shoulders to repopulate the world after the Deluge. Rocks growing into organic beings? And vice versa. Nope, human beings are not imaginative enough to come up with such a crazy conspiracy theory.

I used to entertain the flat earth theory until I came across wild heretics concave earth theory. It has a lot more to it. The fact that light bends should be a serious consideration for anyone who is researching this stuff using their eyes.
 
It's just obvious to me that this international network of Oriental Churches (Masons), in principle, cannot launch anything. Previously, at least they were shy, now they just sculpt their signs everywhere. Again, the head of Roscosmos is a life-tortured linguist... :)


 
I am new to this forum and don't see an active thread on flat earth. Is there any interest in the topic?
SH's format is quite impressive. And imposing, to the point that navigating it is tricky for a simple mind like mine. Generic forums have become gross mockeries of their original designs, and so I am looking for a new home where I may spout my heresies, primarily the most basic hidden truth upon which all other distorted truths are based. The Infinite Plane of the Electric Universe.

My overall guesstimate of reality is a computer program which is crashed and rebooted every 300 years or so.

The gnostics may have had insights about our true history, starting with creation by an aeon named Sophia.
Who, if memory holds, became Gaia "in the flesh" so to speak.
I also respect ancient "myths" like that of Pyrrha and Deucalion, who threw rocks over their shoulders to repopulate the world after the Deluge. Rocks growing into organic beings? And vice versa. Nope, human beings are not imaginative enough to come up with such a crazy conspiracy theory.

I used to entertain the flat earth theory until I came across wild heretics concave earth theory. It has a lot more to it. The fact that light bends should be a serious consideration for anyone who is researching this stuff using their eyes.
Here Here! The fact that the horizon always rises up to the eye level as one ascends (or at least when one’s camera is hoisted up on a weather balloon and said footage is posted on YouTube) is when the Concave Earth Theory penny dropped for me. But don’t worry Flat Earth Theory - you never forget your first!
 
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