Flat Earth

Citezenship said:
grav said:
I'm going to copy and paste this at Banned.Talk.
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What is this, Banned.Talk???

Thanks
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Sorry, it's a generic forum. Sometimes an unruly bunch of childish posters who are typical of other discussion groups.

https://www.banned-talk.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2
Like all the others, excepting SH, forums were abandoned years ago by serious critical thinkers who were run off, partly a result of inevitable entropy, but also by infiltration of CIA and the usual dark state agents.

So why do I post at a place where emotions rule, while ideas are usually ignored or ririculed?

Because one forum, Lunatic Outpost, is where I first heard about a crazy notion that the world was a motionless plane.
I have chosen to return the favor by helping other people see the truth -- people who would never find it anywhere else.

No sense preaching to the choir.
Yes, I encounter a good number of trolls, shills, and people who think they are critical thinkers. I use the word "think" loosely here. People BELIEVE their indoctrination and believe they are thinking.

How to fix that? hah! As 'they' say down South, ya can't fix stupid.
 
grav said:
FE is not incompatible with CE, Concave Earth.
The Ygdrassil tree of Norse myth, the Cosmic Egg, the Mundane Shell, and other images of other ancient cosmologies are all quite similar.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.N8WMrm2RjhpPsMraYFiLYQHaEb&pid=Api&H=95&W=160&P=0

We can also see our existence as an electric torus, in which our Infinite Place becomes the accretion disk at the center.
Flat Earth is actually a simplified term to describe the motionless and irregular surface we are familiar with.
What lies below? which knows? The deepest hole ever dug is the Kola Superdeep Borehole, which was only reached 7.5 miles, at which depth the massive density burned up drill bits.
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Hitler also believed in "concave earth theory" they made fun of him in the books but he thought he woudl be able to sail out into the waters off some european country and spy on the british. The way the book wrote it they watned to make him sound like an idiot. but maybe theres some credibility there.
 
kd-755 said:
Contained water does not curve, bend, warp. It is always every single time dead level at its surface. The size of the container is irrelevant water always, always adopts the shape of the container and gives a level surface. Tea cup, puddle, pool, dock, lake, inland sea, the ocean all contained all present a the level surface.
How do you think the first spirit level was developed?
By using a water level to establish true level and check the accuracy of the device.
Water level of contained water is the base, the very foundation of all levelling devices ever invented and is the thing used to check their accuracy.

Assume you are stood on a ball then the surface of that ball is falling away from your position in every direction. There's another truth. This would mean establishing level would be impossible, totally and utterly impossible yet we live by establishing level and as I said every single thing we build is built on the level. On a ball everything on the surface of the ball is falling away from the point of view.
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Mathmatically speaking, this is not the case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Euclidean_geometryhttps://math.stackexchange.com/ques...urface-of-the-sphere-is-not-a-euclidean-space
A spherical non-euclidean geometry is euclidean locally but not globally. This means that when you zoom in, it is level but globally it is not level because it is round.
To understand this, go to paint. Create a circle.
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Now watch what happens when I zoom in:
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It becomes less and less circular
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And less:
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And less:
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And less:
1617375436353.png
And less:
1617375667581.png
And less:
1617375682657.png

Of course if we continue, Paint will go to 100% level fast, because it only has a limited amount of pixels, but you can imagine that you can keep zooming in infinitely and it would keep being "round" for eternity, but less and less round. We say that when we zoom in a lot it approaches level (euclidian space). In the real world, we can't zoom in for eternity, so it would actually resemble Paint more than the mathmatical construct, which is more "round".

So something can be round globally but level locally.
 
Worsaae said:
kd-755 said:
Contained water does not curve, bend, warp. It is always every single time dead level at its surface. The size of the container is irrelevant water always, always adopts the shape of the container and gives a level surface. Tea cup, puddle, pool, dock, lake, inland sea, the ocean all contained all present a the level surface.
How do you think the first spirit level was developed?
By using a water level to establish true level and check the accuracy of the device.
Water level of contained water is the base, the very foundation of all levelling devices ever invented and is the thing used to check their accuracy.

Assume you are stood on a ball then the surface of that ball is falling away from your position in every direction. There's another truth. This would mean establishing level would be impossible, totally and utterly impossible yet we live by establishing level and as I said every single thing we build is built on the level. On a ball everything on the surface of the ball is falling away from the point of view.
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Mathmatically speaking, this is not the case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Euclidean_geometryhttps://math.stackexchange.com/ques...urface-of-the-sphere-is-not-a-euclidean-space
A spherical non-euclidean geometry is euclidean locally but not globally. This means that when you zoom in, it is level but globally it is not level because it is round.
To understand this, go to paint. Create a circle.Now watch what happens when I zoom in:
It becomes less and less circular
And less:
And less:
And less:
And less:
And less:

Of course if we continue, Paint will go to 100% level fast, because it only has a limited amount of pixels, but you can imagine that you can keep zooming in infinitely and it would keep being "round" for eternity, but less and less round. We say that when we zoom in a lot it approaches level (euclidian space). In the real world, we can't zoom in for eternity, so it would actually resemble Paint more than the mathmatical construct, which is more "round".

So something can be round globally but level locally.
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I am sure you are correct. I honestly suck at math and what you just wrote makes zero sense to me lol. I just wanted to point out that Hitler according to Jim Mars (I think) believed in the Ice Creation Theory and in Concave earth.
 
conspiracyorJAC said:
Worsaae said:
kd-755 said:
Contained water does not curve, bend, warp. It is always every single time dead level at its surface. The size of the container is irrelevant water always, always adopts the shape of the container and gives a level surface. Tea cup, puddle, pool, dock, lake, inland sea, the ocean all contained all present a the level surface.
How do you think the first spirit level was developed?
By using a water level to establish true level and check the accuracy of the device.
Water level of contained water is the base, the very foundation of all levelling devices ever invented and is the thing used to check their accuracy.

Assume you are stood on a ball then the surface of that ball is falling away from your position in every direction. There's another truth. This would mean establishing level would be impossible, totally and utterly impossible yet we live by establishing level and as I said every single thing we build is built on the level. On a ball everything on the surface of the ball is falling away from the point of view.
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Mathmatically speaking, this is not the case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Euclidean_geometryhttps://math.stackexchange.com/ques...urface-of-the-sphere-is-not-a-euclidean-space
A spherical non-euclidean geometry is euclidean locally but not globally. This means that when you zoom in, it is level but globally it is not level because it is round.
To understand this, go to paint. Create a circle.Now watch what happens when I zoom in:
It becomes less and less circular
And less:
And less:
And less:
And less:
And less:

Of course if we continue, Paint will go to 100% level fast, because it only has a limited amount of pixels, but you can imagine that you can keep zooming in infinitely and it would keep being "round" for eternity, but less and less round. We say that when we zoom in a lot it approaches level (euclidian space). In the real world, we can't zoom in for eternity, so it would actually resemble Paint more than the mathmatical construct, which is more "round".

So something can be round globally but level locally.
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I am sure you are correct. I honestly suck at math and what you just wrote makes zero sense to me lol. I just wanted to point out that Hitler according to Jim Mars (I think) believed in the Ice Creation Theory and in Concave earth.
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You don't have to be good at math. What I wrote had a lot of weird words, maybe, but just look at the pictures. It is not complicated and everyone can understand it. When you look at the entire ball, it is very round, when you start zooming in, it becomes less and less round and more and more level/stretched out. Do you see this pattern?
It goes from this:
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To this:
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The more you zoom in, the more level it becomes
 
Worsaae said:
The more you zoom in, the more level it becomes
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As I mentioned believers believe what they feel comfortable with.
A curve of a SPHERE never flat lines.
The outer surface of a BALL never flat lines.
You know this which is why you did not paste in a level line..
Here I'll do it for you.
A zoomed in curve never ever becomes this.
___________________________________________

You confuse a 1D mathematical object, a sphere with a tangible 3D object a ball either deliberately for shits n giggles or inadvertently or you really do believe a sphere and a ball are the same thing. Try drawing a sphere on a ball.
 
conspiracyorJAC said:
grav said:
FE is not incompatible with CE, Concave Earth.
The Ygdrassil tree of Norse myth, the Cosmic Egg, the Mundane Shell, and other images of other ancient cosmologies are all quite similar.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.N8WMrm2RjhpPsMraYFiLYQHaEb&pid=Api&H=95&W=160&P=0

We can also see our existence as an electric torus, in which our Infinite Place becomes the accretion disk at the center.
Flat Earth is actually a simplified term to describe the motionless and irregular surface we are familiar with.
What lies below? which knows? The deepest hole ever dug is the Kola Superdeep Borehole, which was only reached 7.5 miles, at which depth the massive density burned up drill bits.
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Hitler also believed in "concave earth theory" they made fun of him in the books but he thought he woudl be able to sail out into the waters off some european country and spy on the british. The way the book wrote it they watned to make him sound like an idiot. but maybe theres some credibility there.
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Hitler definitely had inside information. And access to Antarctica. The Wild Heretic is also no dummy. He is a Concave Earth theorist which, really, I have trouble visualizing. The Hollow model is of course much simpler.

The Cosmic Egg (torus) is a universal motif of ancient chronicles. It often depicts an ouroboros, a circled snake eating its own tail. In essence, we have a closed electric system. We are aware only of the surface we live on (the accretion disk mentioned earlier).

Nasa has better intel about what lies above and below, but they are a bunch of Nazi freemason liars who want to keep us ignorant and distracted with fake science and crazy politics.

As for Euclidean math, thanks, but its basic geometry absolutely proves the lack of curve. When real world distant targets like Chicago are visible beyond the curve of an 8,000 mile globe, then you know you are looking across a plane.
 
Video's not needed frankly. Trust ones own experience and intuition instead.
This workboats and its aerial are not taller than Blackpool tower it just appears to be.
Blackpool tower is not leaning backwards away from the camera even though it should be according to some.
The water is not rising up from foreground to background even though it appears to be.
Blackpool is not sinking into the water even though it appears to be.
Horizon is dead level just as it always is.

tower.jpeg
 
Knowncitizen said:
grav said:
Knowncitizen said:
grav said:
Sigian said:
it is an entire planet and everything within its atmosphere held in place by an electromagnetic field that literally creates our atmosphere, all spinning at the same time.
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This is a pretense of ignorance and confusion.
I call it the kitchen sink defense. Throw in pseudoscience and jargon and you see how the freemasons have thoroughly brainwashed the sheeple.

I do not for one minute think you are sincere, Sigian. But I appreciate your polite manner. This distraction serves only to dissuade people from investigating flat earth.

Your electromagnetic field is what? gravity? which holds the atmosphere in place as it spins 1000 mph, orbits 66,600 mph? and lets clouds and plumes of smoke float while being dragged along with the surface?

utterly impossible.
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Thanks for typing this up, LOL
@Sigian's response made me feel like the freemasons were touching me inappropriately. LOL I'm sure it took a whole 10 minutes for him to copy/paste from nasa.com.
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touching you inappropriately? Uh, maybe worse than that.
Remember the scene in Silence of the Lambs where Anthony Hopkins relishes a particularly gruesome memory? He had drugged or hypnotized a victim and fed him his own brains.

That pretty much describes how I feel about the freemasons who keep their livestock dumb, drugged, and docile (David Icke's words)
Like this herd immunity thingie with Covid. Oh, the irony. Tell us we're herd animals and then the dumb bunny humans line up and take their poison vaccines.
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Once you break the flat earth spell, the other spells are easier to see through.
This telegram chat group has great videos to help break the Nasa, Space, Space Station, Mars and Globe lies.
Wecome To Flat Earth!!!!!!
https://t.me/Killshot2020
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I never said I believe the earth is flat. Only that we are for sure not spinning on a ball and I really don’t know what the earth is. This is what I tell people when my friends say. Chris is a flat earther.
 
Apologies I was going to add this the other day but couldn't remember where I put it.

The submarine is not 'under' the silo even though it appears to be.
The camera viewpoint and the land the silo is stood on is at the same elevation.
Our optical apparatus and its operation makes the submarine appear lower than the silo.
If the camera was at sea level then the conning tower of the submarine would be obscuring part of the silo.
Oh and the horizon is still dead level.
Download some gurus chatting in a video, for a price of course, truth doesn't come cheap,
(actually truth is freedom but don't tell anyone it scares them) OR pay attention to two things all the time, the way your eyes function and the behaviour of contained water.
YOU are all the guru you need to ascertain that you are on a level plane.
kilo.jpeg
The long-anticipated transit of the Russian-built, Algerian Kilo-class submarine Messali El Hadj (S021) on April 15 in the Strait of Dover.​
 
Starman said:
Love ODD TV. Coming soon:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtrbBS007wk
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I hope the documentary isn't too long.
I'm one of those who will only watch about 10 minutes of evidence.
But I'm a flatearther -- I already know this stuff. And globeheads won't watch any FE videos.

I prefer text and memes. Short sentences and images with captions are hard to ignore, even for a hard-as-a-rock globehead.

1. Outer space is 62 miles away. 62 miles.
At the alleged Karman line, air pressure is virtually nil. Gas laws prohibit this physical impossibility. 62 miles.

2. Oxygen and other gas particles also must synchronize speeds with the surface of the spinning globe.
1000 mph rotation
66,600 orbital speed around the sun. Beyond ridiculous.

3. Water seeks its own level.
Level means straight along an x-axis (horizontal).
Oceans are water.
Ergo, oceans are level.

4. Star patterns have not changed in human history. Constellations wheel overhead just as they did 6000 ago.
We should see, if stars move as claimed, new patterns in 6 months or less.

5. Spherical trigonometry strictly calculates a curved drop of the surface at 8 inches times miles squared. 8xd^
It is fairly easy to test the globe yourself. With a zoom lens and good visibility, I have observed New Orleans from a distance which should have entirely obscured the Superdome. A famous example is Chicago, which many people have sighted from 50 miles away across the lake. Math makes that impossible, as even the tallest skyscrapers should have been hidden by the curve.


http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.x2Ym3dHd4c34mQo2wAauqAEsCd&pid=15.1
 
Yes, if you take even the slightest look at it, and you strive to be honest with yourself and your own senses and mind, then the truth becomes patently obvious.

The majority of people who ridicule this have never even taken the slightest look at it. Their ego won't let them.
 
El Forastero said:
Yes, if you take even the slightest look at it, and you strive to be honest with yourself and your own senses and mind, then the truth becomes patently obvious.

The majority of people who ridicule this have never even taken the slightest look at it. Their ego won't let them.
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I often think about how easy it has been to make people distrust their own senses and reasoning. Show them a photoshoped image of Earth or outer space and they will think it's real.

The average person:
"people in positions of power are all liars and crooks"
Also the average person:
"why would people in positions of power lie about history/geography/health?"
 
It's also important not to lose sight of the matter at hand and instead resort to the same tactics of ridicule and notions of superiority against those who cannot, or will not, see what's right in front of them.

I can only speak for myself but even just a couple of years ago I harboured those very same feelings that we are up against now.

It's all part of a greater process than we can fully understand, imo.
 
Great interview out yesterday on various FE topics led by Shawn at SGT Report and his guests, David Weiss and Matt Long.
David was on screen all the time and had some great photos and videos explaining what he was talking about. The guy has really connected some dots for me. Holy cow!

This is one example below. He goes through the timeline of the physical discoveries about the nature of our flat world and firmament, and the efforts to hide what they discovered. Go to 58 minutes if you want to jump in there.


Operation High Jump 1946..............Discovery of the ice wall

Operation Deep Freeze 1955...........Discovery of the Firmament

Nasa Founded 1958........................The Firmament is the Van Allen belts

Antarctic Treaty 1959......................Guarding the Firmament

Operation Fishbowl 1962...............Bombing the Firmament

Apollo Mission 1969.......................Hoax to Hide the Firmament



View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/OULEg75g6DSw/
 
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Starman said:
Operation High Jump 1946..............Discovery of the ice wall

Operation Deep Freeze 1955...........Discovery of the Firmament

Nasa Founded 1958........................The Firmament is the Van Allen belts

Antarctic Treaty 1959......................Guarding the Firmament

Operation Fishbowl 1962...............Bombing the Firmament

Apollo Mission 1969.......................Hoax to Hide the Firmament
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It's as if there is nothing outside of the United States and its government.
What has this chap or indeed anyone done to test the claims made?
For example when these operations/missions (what's the difference?) of the United States were underway what were other countries governments doing?
Granted there were other governments people signing paper, in the United States during two events on the list the'58 and '59 pair but other than them who knows what the rest of the known world was up too at the time?
At least Wallace went to the moon to see if it was made of cheese.

It is quite telling that whenever people who know government people lie then use government sources to lay out their case for the existence of things that cannot be tested other than by government people and they use youtube of all things to 'spread their word'
You know youtube the evil incarnate whose people removes videos all the time for reasons unknown somehow they manage to miss these flat earth proofs/evidence videos in its vast catalogue, as if.
Macro and micro only governments have the propaganda.
 
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