Flat Earth

[Tetromino]

There were people who survived who knew what happened and they removed them (the Inquisition, Insane/Genocide Asylums). It all makes sense when one can step back, dissolve their attachment to the indoctrination and think objectively.

I wanted to say that the concept of lunatic asylums feels both evil and familiar to me. It was known in the past that once you went in you didn't come out and some of the reasons for admission back then seem outrageous now. It's as if anyone who wasn't "normal" was sent in as a precaution to the controllers as they refuse to accept the new order or may simply know too much.

 

[Breizh]

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From the Sacred Texts Archives, Earth Mysteries:

Many educated people knew about the spherical earth from late antiquity on. However, most Europeans believed that the earth was flat until the explorations of the renaissance. The Biblical concept of an earth with four corners (e.g. Isa 11:12) was taken very literally. Note that the word used here, kanaf, is a word used for corners of buildings, cloth, bedsheets, and so on. To confuse matters somewhat, the earth is also described in Isaiah as being circular (Isa 40:22), specifically it says the circle of the earth. Some modern inerrantists point to this as 'evidence' that the earth is round, although Isaiah seems to imply that it is disk-shaped here. The Hebrew word used here is khug, which unambiguously means circle, not sphere. It is related to a root khagag, which means to dance in a circle, or a sacred procession which moves in a circle. Square? Circular? it's enough to make your head spin...


In the late 19th century a number of alternative theories of the shape of the earth were proposed, flat, hollow and inside-out. By the time the poles had been reached in the early 20th century, the time for these theories had passed. Today, some Biblical inerrantists still believe that the Earth is flat.

 

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oops, I meant to paste an image of the Infinite Plane here, to suggest the accretion disk of the toroidal universe in which earth sits, like a puddle or pond on solid ground.
But this picture showed up instead, from posting on another forum which takes the 3I Atlas asteroid seriously. What is it? maybe a spaceship, maybe a space rock that will impact earth. As usual, much speculation and downright hoaxery consume the minds of the normies.
I figure it's another Nasa psyop, one which Wernher von Braun predicted decades ago.

To my original point, the flat earth is embedded in the hologram projection we call the universe.
It is an enclosed habitat, covered with a firmament, aka dome, which is a solid expanses with windows or portals through which light radiates (sun moon, comets such as the one below).
Skyfalls of water, rocks, insects, fish, many other impossible things were recorded by Charles Fort in his Book of the Damned.

 

[reverendALC]

That just gave me a very curious thought;

Can a fish in an aquarium truly understand the nature of the realm beyond the tank? Can its mind comprehend the level of intelligence of its caretaker, the matters of electricity and plumbed water and manufactured food?

I wonder if we’re even capable of understanding the true nature of our realm, or forever subject to interpreting that which we can see through our own limited psyche.

 

[Just]

I personally found the most compelling wake-up was the Ewaranon Lost History of Flat Earth with the moon map - this info came in part from Stergios’ Vibe of Cosmos. Both of them present an extended plane in a kind of ‘clock-face’ view of our the ‘four corners’ of the plane being periodically frozen over and thawed and the ‘ice wall’ being the constantly thawing and freezing over of the other parts of the plane. This involves the cyclical movement of the solar / lunar bodies rotating around the thawed world but gradually moving to cover the whole surface of the plane as the millennia pass Think of a fairground waltzer to get the idea of it. Planet apparently literally means part of a plane. The time it takes to do a complete cycle of the entire plane thawing and freezing is what is known as a great year or the precession of the equinox which takes 25,772 years. Each astrological age lasts a twelfth of this. The age of Pisces (which we are currently in but moving into Aquarius ‘soon’) will last for 2147 years. Presumably the thawing / freezing movement will cause flooding and climate change depending on where you are located. Antarctica is the fiction based on the edge of the ever-changing ice wall. Land may well have already been exposed but this has to be hidden from us hence the Antarctic military presence. The firmament covers this extended plane and is impenetrable. What lies beyond it may be waters above and below as stated in biblical texts. I personally believe that space is fake and the great push to make us believe it which started with the advent of cinema is all fiction to convince us that space travel is possible / real. Why are we in this terrarium? That’s a whole other question. For our protection? Part of an experiment? A vast ‘space’ transportation system? A simulated reality based on a lost world? Whatever the truth of that is, the globe world idea had to be introduced by tptb to undermine the fact that we are in a created world and that there is a creator. It’s a satanic overthrowing of our sovereignty. It’s a way to make us believe in randomness and chaos. It focuses on our insignificance and our soulless and meaningless mortality. We have to wake up to the reality of this world before a new ‘reset’ happens- like the last one which may well have been in the mid to late 19th century. The precession shifts 1 degree every 75 years (the supposed life expectancy of man). The controllers of this world have ensured that’s all the life we can ge

oops, I meant to paste an image of the Infinite Plane here, to suggest the accretion disk of the toroidal universe in which earth sits, like a puddle or pond on solid ground.
But this picture showed up instead, from posting on another forum which takes the 3I Atlas asteroid seriously. What is it? maybe a spaceship, maybe a space rock that will impact earth. As usual, much speculation and downright hoaxery consume the minds of the normies.
I figure it's another Nasa psyop, one which Wernher von Braun predicted decades ago.

To my original point, the flat earth is embedded in the hologram projection we call the universe.
It is an enclosed habitat, covered with a firmament, aka dome, which is a solid expanses with windows or portals through which light radiates (sun moon, comets such as the one below).
Skyfalls of water, rocks, insects, fish, many other impossible things were recorded by Charles Fort in his Book of the Damned.

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So we’re in a created goldfish bowl hurtling through a random universe in which very fortunately we’re being warmed by an external sun without which fortuitous happenstance no life would be able to survive. Naaa. If we’re in a created world, you don’t think the creator would have thought to include in our terrarium a means of making life flourish within the world. The solar lunar system is below the firmament. What’s outside the firmament is water. Trying to break the firmament may have caused cataclysmic flooding in the past but, whatever, ‘space travel’ of the kind we’ve been sold since the last reset is impossible.

 

[Conciousness_Arise]

That just gave me a very curious thought;

Can a fish in an aquarium truly understand the nature of the realm beyond the tank? Can its mind comprehend the level of intelligence of its caretaker, the matters of electricity and plumbed water and manufactured food?

I wonder if we’re even capable of understanding the true nature of our realm, or forever subject to interpreting that which we can see through our own limited psyche.

Whatever model we make of the world with our own reality perception, is not the reality of the world, it's a model we have made, through a very limited perception, and is only a tiny cross section of what is.

 

[reverendALC]

@Conciousness_Arise that was my point exactly!

A fish cannot understand the process of manufacturing glass. A fish cannot explore and determine what lies beneath or beyond the aquarium, and the physical body of the fish wouldn’t even support such exploration.

The parallel:

A human cannot understand the process of manufacturing firmament. A human cannot explore or determine what lies beneath or beyond our aquarium, and the physical body of a human wouldn’t even support such exploration.

Imagine, some fish in a tank talking about their creator designing their inhabitable ecosystem, while others insist that an infinite number of aquariums exist and the conditions of this aquarium were “just right” for fish to appear

 

[Conciousness_Arise]

@Conciousness_Arise that was my point exactly!

A fish cannot understand the process of manufacturing glass. A fish cannot explore and determine what lies beneath or beyond the aquarium, and the physical body of the fish wouldn’t even support such exploration.

The parallel:

A human cannot understand the process of manufacturing firmament. A human cannot explore or determine what lies beneath or beyond our aquarium, and the physical body of a human wouldn’t even support such exploration.

Imagine, some fish in a tank talking about their creator designing their inhabitable ecosystem, while others insist that an infinite number of aquariums exist and the conditions of this aquarium were “just right” for fish to appear

I totally agree with you. Some points to consider here; As an observation, there seems to be something inherent to all living entities, like a collective consciousness. Its also been stated as the "Morphic Resonant Field". Where by all living entities communicate within this field. This phenomenon has been proven through many experiments, and I recommend researching these experiments by Rupert Sheldrake. It appears that this consciousness collective record builds a stored knowledge base. Also known as the"Akashic records".

It appears that in recent history (post cataclysm) there was a power vacuum, and the current rulers filled the void, they have been actively suppressing our ability to access the metaphysical "field". One reason for this could be that the consciousness advancement of life hits a singularity resulting in a catyclism around every 400 years. The current powers do not want another one, so suppress us and hold us in a gross matter materialistic existence. I think its the natural advancement of all life forms, including the gold fish to advance to the "god head" of consciousness existence. Advancing "back" to creation. If you look at it based on, we have descended from an advanced metaphysical existence, and all life seeks to return to that existence. Including the fish.

With regards to how we describe the nature of reality. I think we create it. Our reality is manifested into existence. It has a set physical rules, that's agreed upon, and tapped into through the morphic field. There is your "universe" and there is my "universe", there is also the fishes "universe". All are valid, and exist.

 

[reverendALC]

This phenomenon has been proven through many experiments

The hundredth monkey

 

[Birdie]

Tyson is too intelligent to not know what he's doing. He got to "the top" in the same manner that Chomsky describes in his video; he did what he was told to do.

Not necessarily. Most of them are actors. You cannot trust that CVs and credentials are real.

 

[Birdie]

I personally found the most compelling wake-up was the Ewaranon Lost History of Flat Earth with the moon map - this info came in part from Stergios’ Vibe of Cosmos. Both of them present an extended plane in a kind of ‘clock-face’ view of our world with the ‘four corners’ of the plane being periodically frozen over and thawed and the ‘ice wall’ being the constantly thawing and freezing over of the other parts of the plane. This involves the cyclical movement of the solar / lunar bodies rotating around the thawed world but gradually moving to cover the whole surface of the plane as the millennia pass Think of a fairground waltzer to get the idea of it. Planet apparently literally means part of a plane. The time it takes to do a complete cycle of the entire plane thawing and freezing is what is known as a great year or the precession of the equinox which takes 25,772 years. Each astrological age lasts a twelfth of this. The age of Pisces (which we are currently in but moving into Aquarius ‘soon’) will last for 2147 years. Presumably the thawing / freezing movement will cause flooding and climate change depending on where you are located. Antarctica is the fiction based on the edge of the ever-changing ice wall. Land may well have already been exposed but this has to be hidden from us hence the Antarctic military presence. The firmament covers this extended plane and is impenetrable. What lies beyond it may be waters above and below as stated in biblical texts. I personally believe that space is fake and the great push to make us believe it which started with the advent of cinema is all fiction to convince us that space travel is possible / real. Why are we in this terrarium? That’s a whole other question. For our protection? Part of an experiment? A vast ‘space’ transportation system? A simulated reality based on a lost world? Whatever the truth of that is, the globe world idea had to be introduced by tptb to undermine the fact that we are in a created world and that there is a creator. It’s a satanic overthrowing of our sovereignty. It’s a way to make us believe in randomness and chaos. It focuses on our insignificance and our soulless and meaningless mortality. We have to wake up to the reality of this world before a new ‘reset’ happens- like the last one which may well have been in the mid to late 19th century. The precession shifts 1 degree every 75 years (the supposed life expectancy of man). The controllers of this world have ensured that’s all the life we can generally expect.

 

[Birdie]

Apologies. Apparently, My post was censored, denying access because of more than 3,000 characters (?) when it was not. The last time I was censored it was for my lack of enthusiasm for feminism. Not sure why this time. Whatever I posted, the mgmnt does not want you folks to read. Can't imagine what it was, I know religious disrespect is not a problem, I see criticism of the Catholic Church all the time. Whatever, I'll just lurk.

 

[jeenam]

Apologies. Apparently, My post was censored, denying access because of more than 3,000 characters (?) when it was not. The last time I was censored it was for my lack of enthusiasm for feminism. Not sure why this time. Whatever I posted, the mgmnt does not want you folks to read. Can't imagine what it was, I know religious disrespect is not a problem, I see criticism of the Catholic Church all the time. Whatever, I'll just lurk.

Oh Birdie I do like your posts. Copy the text before you hit Post Reply just in case so you don't lose what you typed =)

 

[Breizh]

...because of more than 3,000 characters (?) when it was not.

Next time try the button in yellow which will show you any hidden text.

 

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Oh Birdie I do like your posts. Copy the text before you hit Post Reply just in case so you don't lose what you typed =)

me too.
Your quotation brings up several interesting ideas.
One is that planet refers to the 'infinite' plane. I often spell it as planette, to highlight the word which dictionaries define as a flat or level surface.
The other idea is the "clock-face’ view of our world" that has been compared to the Antikythera device that moves the magnetic compass that gives us ice ages and warm centuries.
Wheels within Wheels.

 

[alltheleaves]

me too.
Your quotation brings up several interesting ideas.
One is that planet refers to the 'infinite' plane. I often spell it as planette, to highlight the word which dictionaries define as a flat or level surface.
The other idea is the "clock-face’ view of our world" that has been compared to the Antikythera device that moves the magnetic compass that gives us ice ages and warm centuries.
Wheels within Wheels.

maybe it's a plan it.

a few years ago when i brought up this topic a friend in china immediately ...and casually...showed me a flat dome enclosed earth.

 

[Breizh]

From Terry Pratchet...

Most planets, like our own Roundworld, are spherical bodies that spin on their axis whilst caught in an interplanetary gravitational waltz around a central star. The Discworld has no such predictability or adherence to the laws of physics. The Disc is a flat earth, a circular plane supported by four gigantic elephants which stand on the carapace of Great A’Tuin, the world turtle.

 

[_harris]

do people still believe it's flat?!

[FYI - there's no simple way to measure "curvature"... as the "drop" changes as you get further away, and massively depends on your altitude and the geography of what we're looking over.]

best visual experiement I'd advise anybody to do... get a good map with altitudes of hills on it and go up a hill where you can see some in the near distance, and some further away. and compare what you see with the map. for example:

- I stand on a hill at 80 metres above sea level.
- 6.5km away is a hill ~210 metres
- 15km away is a hill ~300 metres, with a communication mast ~290 metres
- I look towards the top of the mast (~590 metres above sea level)
- it appears to be LOWER than the ~210 metre hilltop.

OR (same view)

- I look straight across (as in level to where I am ... you can set up a spirit level on a tripod for this)
- I look OVER the ~210 metre hill top.
- the ~590 metre mast is WAY BELOW the line of level sight.

there's your proof of 'curvature', two methods and you only need to look from 1 viewpoint. done

 

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there's your proof of 'curvature', two methods and you only need to look from 1 viewpoint. done

The math of the sphere is 8xdxd, close enough for government work.
This formula obtains a drop of 8 inches times miles distance squared. Thank goodness for miles, which many of us find much more user friendly than the metric system. More accurate algorithms are available on the internet, but the simple 8dd is actually very close.

Mountains and cities have been photographed at great distances, far exceeding the range predicted by globe math.
Thr best photographic proofs for the do-it-yourselfer are those taken over water. Determine distance to and altitude of target, observer height, simple math. Viola.

In this case, many photographers have zoomed in on the Chicago skyline. At 50 miles, the 8x50x50 = 20,000 inches ÷ 12 = 1666.666 feet, which is higher than the tallest skyscraper. None of the city should be visible, but . . . seeing is believing.