I've seen a lot of toroidal shaped objects seemingly excavated throughout history. With sometimes soundwave generation explanations given. But isn't sound itself just simply very low frequency oscillating electrical waves?
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The recent main stream attention on UFO's is interesting, as usual it's not the truth they are telling us! I don't believe in Aliens as such, but do believe their are other life forms within our realm (i.e. not from space!). The UFO's could just as easily be human or other lifeform technology, if 'aliens' did come then I imagine they would come from land outside of the icewall?
On the ancient technology theory, this is backed up by Bob Lazaar who worked on 'alien' technology in area 51. He said that the UFO/craft he was trying to reverse engineer was actually found in an old archeological dig, which makes sense to me.
I have also read about the sound levitation used by ancients, I think there is probably some truth to this. This short clip shows how we are rediscovering this technology in modern times.
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or through tunnels in the "hollow" earth.
It's also been proposed that there are portals in the dome, which could be ..... what? physical doors -- or Star Trek-like force fields which can be manipulated?
It sure seems like the Computer Age came along in a flash, as mankind went in a generation or two from horse and buggy to smart phones. Patrons of this site will of course laugh at the quaint notion that history as taught is worth a hill of beans.
One of the old gangster whistleblowers claimed to have seen and worked around ETs in underground military bases.
Milton William Cooper - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper
Milton William "Bill" Cooper (May 6, 1943 – November 5, 2001) was an American conspiracy theorist, radio broadcaster, and author known for his 1991 book Behold a Pale Horse, in which he warned of multiple global conspiracies, some involving extraterrestrial life.
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Regarding antigrav technology, I suppose we have, or were given, empirical science that makes such things possible, if you know how to alter the density of matter and otherwise rearrange the aether.
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Have you ever looked into Sonoluminescence? The part in the Bible that says Gods word created everything, IMO, may refer to sound creating matter. The waters above + sound = A suspended Earth in water.
View: https://youtu.be/O9B3vzsZsr4
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If this is true, it verifies the Vedas. Description of building such flying objects are very detailed in them.
He was able to publish books, give talks on this subject for many years. However, when he switched his story and said that he suspected that his 'highly credible' sources may have been mind-control victims who were possibly feeding him false info for years, he died very suddenly in a confrontation with the law on his ranch under very suspicious circumstances.
Yes, I think it certainly is a significant piece of the puzzle.
Yep. I’ve searched for the video long and hard, the one where he is sitting outside talking. In the video he says he no longer believes aliens are from space and that he was used to spread the alien narrative and other misinformation . He said he takes back all the aliens from stuff and for this he would be killed
This gets me to thinking about two things
1 - He never took back his “craft emerging from water” story. So either he thinks aliens are from the waters below (and maybe above?) or man has the ability to create these craft. Maybe both
2 - The “aliens from space” story seems to be the holy grail for the writers of the script. As you said Bill covered all sorts of topics, why were “they” so quick to silence Bill once he figured out he was being used. Hard not to reckon that Project Blue Beam or something similar is the life’s work of these psychos
Aliens prove we aren’t in an enclosed system, right? Right????
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Here's the link to the last interview queued up the the correct time (You're right, it wasn't easy to find, they don't want this info out there from someone like him.):
View: https://youtu.be/BhfkZMaz5yg?t=2809
and an excerpt from the Behold a Pale Horse interview which unfortunately sums up the sad state of affairs of our current predicament:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aANmjHzgf0Q
Let's not get further away from the topic of the OP, there are other threads where this subject is more appropriate.
View: https://youtu.be/BhfkZMaz5yg?t=2809
and an excerpt from the Behold a Pale Horse interview which unfortunately sums up the sad state of affairs of our current predicament:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aANmjHzgf0Q
Let's not get further away from the topic of the OP, there are other threads where this subject is more appropriate.
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I appreciate your desire to maintain topic integrity.
But in this case, I think that Cooper can answer some of our FE dome dilemmas.
You may be aware that I take seriously the myths that speak about gods and creation. The only way, at least for me, to get a handle on the wildly conflicting ideas is the computer program reality. Well, that is a definite dead end.
Gods and aliens and ETs are words that, in my opinion, refer to Advanced Beings on the Infinite Plane. My guess is something like the Gnostic tradition, with Gaia and Saturn and titans and all that jazz -- as code writers who built our sim worlds or participated as role players.
Bill Cooper, if I recall from years ago when first I read his pale horse, actually saw creatures who were not human. They had access to the areas outside our enclosed habitat, either in the DUMBs Cooper entered or the forbidden zones of the Antarctic.
Many other "alien" researchers have come along since Cooper was killed.
They are on the History Channel, for Pete's sake. Flat Earth will never see the light of day, nor will any exposure of Nasa and the space program. They hide the truth and teach the lies.
This image is kind of like my idea of the Infinite Plane, except that Admiral Byrd reported flying over unfrozen land and water in Antarctica. Can we trust him? He was a freemason, one of the elites who told us lies and truths at the same time.
One of the ideas behind the globe deception is that they want to hide land. If we think we are on a globe and everything has been explored, then we turn our eyes towards space.
The "you fall over the edge of the world" flat earth has the same motive.
The "Ice wall all around us" flat earth has the same motive.
The "you fall over the edge of the world" flat earth has the same motive.
The "Ice wall all around us" flat earth has the same motive.
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This reminds me of the 'Wood between the Worlds' from C.S Lewis's Narnia books.
Wood Between the Worlds
A few interesting quotes from the link:
'The Wood Between the Worlds was the name given to a mysterious realm of portals that allowed magical travel between the worlds of Charn, Earth and Narnia, and numerous others.
It had the form of a quiet forest dotted with many wide pools of supposed water, each of which served as a portal to a different world.
It was used by Digory Kirke and Polly Plummer to visit the dying world of Charn, to transport Queen Jadis from Charn to Earth, and then take her, along with Frank, Strawberry and Andrew Ketterley, to Narnia on the day of its creation.
In order to use the portals, a person must be touching one of the magical rings created by Andrew Ketterley, Digory's magician uncle. This will transport the user between the world and the wood via the ether.'
This story always struck me as being based on truth in some way, it was 40 years ago since I read the book and the wood between the worlds has alsways stuck with me!
This next bit reminds me of Golden Compass/His dark materials with it's mention of 'Dust'- in this reality we see parallel worlds above and below each other like a giant bar code. Also Charn reminds me of the world in Golden Compass, aswell as our old lost world from the past.
'The rings themselves were created from a magical dust, originally in the possession of Uncle Andrew's godmother. This powder had come, via the lost island of Atlantis, from the Wood itself. Thus, originally, the dust must have been used in travelling between worlds, and it is implied that in the past, travel from our world to others such as Charn, may have been more common. This offers explanation of how in "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe", Jadis is described by the beavers as descended from Adam's first wife Lilith (from Earth), whilst also being the last of the royal house of Charn.'
I find this bit interesting too:
'It is of note that this pool existed before Narnia had properly begun, whilst it was in the state of "dark and stillness before the dawn of time". When the world of Charn was destroyed, following the exit of its final living inhabitant, its pool in the Wood dried up into a grassy hollow. This suggests that any of the pools dries up after its world has met its end.
The Wood itself is not a 'world' in the sense of Charn, Earth, or Narnia. It is more like a nexus, a dimension that exists outside of all worlds, like a corridor from where anyone can access any of the portals. It is largely uninhabited, perhaps explained by the fact that continued presence there causes a general amnesia and sleepiness. This quality of the Wood may be present in order to prevent it being captured and held by any one race, thus only allowing its use as a portal.'
'The Wood's resistance to hostile parties may also be apparent in its toxic effect upon Jadis, who lost her strength and vitality when she entered it. The Wood is described as being very much alive, with having a large number of trees that grew so close together, with so many leaves that one could hardly see the sky. Despite this, though, there is a bright green light that shines through the leaves, creating a warm climate for the Wood. It is very quiet, with hardly any inhabitants, and no wind. You can apparently almost feel the tress growing, and there are pools everywhere, which the trees' roots drink up the water from.'
Could the pools be analagous to the portals at the poles? The wood also makes me think of the giant trees we used to have. I really feel like there is a message in this story relating to the true nature of our reality.
Also noticed this map of the Golden Compass version of Earth, similar to ours with subtle differences - look at the UK joined to Ireland, I wonder what made them think of that? Reminds me of the California Island map, which funnily enough is shown as an island. Recently there's been talk of how all our old maps are wrong due to them showing tropic of cancer/capricorn - what if these are maps of other worlds similar to ours but slightly different as in the Golden Compass example? (also just noticed Tartary on the map below, fancy that!)
Hadn't seen this one before, just someone documenting a succession of coincidences.
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666 DAYS IN SPACE - THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS
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DITRH (David Weiss) calmly lays out the idiotic claims of the globe model.
Ask acquaintances how they "know" the earth is round.
Or dont, if you want to avoid a fight.
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They know that the Earth is round because of:
- Different star rotations on two hemispheres.
- The same stars appearing from everywhere in the southern hemisphere.
- Tropics.
- Flights
2-) If we look at toward the South at night in the southern hemisphere, we will see the exact same stars regardless of where we are. This observation is impossible if Earth is flat, and can only be explained if the Earth is a sphere.
3-) Flat Earthers claim that the tropic of Capricorn is larger than the tropic of Cancer.
4-) According to the Flat Earth map, flight times in the southern hemisphere should take longer than flight times in the northern hemisphere.
Yes but you cannot explain on a globe why you can capture both rotations in a single frame. Start at the 2:00 mark for the astrophotography.
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I have looked through some of this thread, but it is quite long now. So forgive me if my questions have already been addressed...
But there is something I feel like I have yet to see/hear from FE proponents. Why is there never a discussion against the arguments made by both Ptolemy in Almagest and Copernicus in his De revolutionibus... for the earth being spherical? In both works the shape of the world is covered as the first premise(s) after the introduction.
One major crux of the argument is that the sphere is the most perfect of shapes, and as the Celestial (heavenly) realm is an expression of Divine perfection, so the sphere must be the primal shape of Divine expression. Considering the religious nature of some FE, I do not understand the contention they would have with such arguments, as they are theologically quite sound...
But there is something I feel like I have yet to see/hear from FE proponents. Why is there never a discussion against the arguments made by both Ptolemy in Almagest and Copernicus in his De revolutionibus... for the earth being spherical? In both works the shape of the world is covered as the first premise(s) after the introduction.
One major crux of the argument is that the sphere is the most perfect of shapes, and as the Celestial (heavenly) realm is an expression of Divine perfection, so the sphere must be the primal shape of Divine expression. Considering the religious nature of some FE, I do not understand the contention they would have with such arguments, as they are theologically quite sound...
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The first quote answers the last one about southern star trails.
The spinning whirling dervish of the globe model could never obtain the predictable patterns we see every night over millennia. Astronomers know this little stellar parallax failure.
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in the stars, but in our perspective (to misquote the writer known as Shakespeare). Stand under a ceiling fan and observe the circular motions of the blades. Now move a mere 10 feet away and the circular motion is flattened. Another consideration is the glasslike dome's shape and the possibility of mutiple domes. FE Youtubers have presented videos to demonstrate this point of view, literally and figuratively. Other videos also produce ample evidence to show how verifiable airplane flights never travel from southernmost locations without making unnecessary stops in northern airports.
@apollonius has a habit of nitpicking FE without proving the ridiculous RE solar system. It is tiresome to see the same lame arguments trotted out again and again, especially those that depend on iffy sources (government agencies and religious texts).
Besides, facts of real physics should be our primary method to determine the world's shape. Water at rest is level. Spinning balls produce centrifugal force. Air can NOT sync speeds over a moving surface. Chicago is visible from 50 miles.
So who gives a whoop about air travel and what Copernicus wrote (under threats of excommunication)?
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Stolen History Part 2 - The Destruction of the Old World
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Thanks for the thread.
You hooked me with Velokovsky
I see the race memory idea as a computer storage unit, changeable but never completely eraseable. It's the stuff of the Electric Universe and gnosticism, in which physical death releases the electric consciousness which then reports its experiences in the Akhashic Hall of Records.
In Flat Earth theory, that location is probably the dome.
In the Electric Universe theory, possibly the motherboard or the computer hard drive.
Thank you, have been trying to dig that term out of my head for awhile now. Do you believe that this is accessible by humanity? Or is there terms to unlock this? As I have come to see it as pretty much universal knowledge of everything.
Also, you grav, are not a believer of the atom correct? What do you believe when it comes to the makeup of basic matter? Maybe it was said, I apologize. So hydrogen and up the periodic table are false? How do we cope and create today without this basic knowledge if it isn't real? Again, just trying to see your side and sorry if you had already mentioned. So many pages now, so much going on lately.
One group of deceivers doesn't discount another group.
The Vatican built a grand telescope called Lucifer. NASA lost the original telemetry and film data from the Apollo missions. Big Bang theory was invented (at least publicly) by a Catholic priest. NASA has been caught using CGI and stage wires.
NASA is not a government agency, they're a part of the military.
There's Catholic, Jesuit, And the Jewish religious hierarchy working together in the field of deception.
Your average person Tithing is not corrupt in my opinion, only foolish of the normies who tithe to the mega churches who in turn use those funds to destroy morality. Tithing to a localized community church not connected to the establishment churches isn't corrupt at all, in my opinion, as long as the leadership isn't a pack of groveling deceptors.
I assume most of these tithers are still asleep, better to wake them up to the lies.
