Flat Earth

[Safranek]

No, it happened for real, some one and half years ago (february 2019). Bob Knodel obtained a $20,000 ring laser gyroscope, and it registered a 15 degree rotation, after one hour.

Haha if that your go to reference then you are in real trouble, may as well bring in mark sealant and his boy freind patricia the steer!

If you haven't noticed, they will ONLY debate their controlled opposition. Bob and his boyfriend, Mark and his boyfriend, ODD (they got him on board at some point), etc. . When MIchael Tellinger made a statement regarding his view on the side of FE, he had to come back with a video stating that its no use taking that position of something along those lines. Others, like Curious Life, Brian Mullins and Mr. E. get their channels pulled. No intelligent researchers will be seen on MSM debating ANY subject unless they have been brought into the fold.

 

[Jd755]

Got 7 minutes?
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View: https://youtu.be/m_-aru4OfP0

 

[Jd755]

The whole video (and I have to say the music is mesmerising) filmed in Cappadocia is showing us for an hour and forty odd minutes there is no curve but if you are strapped for time just play it at half speed from the timed start underneath and watch the horizon rise up with the camera and way the the valleys between balloon and horizon come into view all impossible on a ball curving away in every direction from the point of view. There is no curve, never was, never has been and never will be. Neither is it spinning at 1,000 plus mph
You can only realise this by observation not sitting with other peoples theories rattling round your mind.
It is inconceivable that people alive on this plane prior to us failed to notice this.

PS even if the earth shape is of no concern to you you get a most fantastic overview of the landscape of Cappadocia without a google digital map being involved!

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EDIT to add;
For those who still cling to ships disappearing over a horizon is proof or evidence of a ball just watch the balloon in the background.

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[cnut]

Meet Conspiracy Music Guru
I would like to insert a brief moment of levity.
This gentleman creates music videos describing an alternate
earth shape.
Meet Conspiracy Music Guru's first character.. - YouTube
thanks,
cnut

 

[xxometeotl]

I am new to this forum and don't see an active thread on flat earth. Is there any interest in the topic?
SH's format is quite impressive. And imposing, to the point that navigating it is tricky for a simple mind like mine. Generic forums have become gross mockeries of their original designs, and so I am looking for a new home where I may spout my heresies, primarily the most basic hidden truth upon which all other distorted truths are based. The Infinite Plane of the Electric Universe.

My overall guesstimate of reality is a computer program which is crashed and rebooted every 300 years or so.

The gnostics may have had insights about our true history, starting with creation by an aeon named Sophia.
Who, if memory holds, became Gaia "in the flesh" so to speak.
I also respect ancient "myths" like that of Pyrrha and Deucalion, who threw rocks over their shoulders to repopulate the world after the Deluge. Rocks growing into organic beings? And vice versa. Nope, human beings are not imaginative enough to come up with such a crazy conspiracy theory.

first paragraph: the old SH dot org were relating the issue with this topic, even korben dallas ( i have screenshoots of this) why the flat earth topic related to mudflood for google search is soweird almost giving you crazy results. the relation of all cosmologies with mudfloos and buildings is a topic that controllers wants to the humans dont relate it.

resets after some humans events(if they reach golden age again) are a fact.

Sophia, the black sun, the mind, is ISIS is Pachamama is Magna Matter ... archons related to sophia making the "material" (electri-city matrix) matter... the trinity is lke that, duality negative positive result, dielectric and magnetism...

magnetism = maria isis pachamama
dielectric = holy spirit, "first was the word" without that is dielectricity, everywhere, calm.
electric = the son, dielectric + magnetism then you need only vibration to create "potential" matter

this topic was allowed by korben dallas in the old stolen history and promoting this topic if was related to all cosmologies and mudfloods events

*Mokosh is the Mother nature goddes in slavic,the symbol is like a cross but is magnetism symbol (toroid if you want), you can research mokosh and see the symbol and how was usurped for transform into a real human who existedthanks to the bible created by the same people doing the actual reset

 

[Jd755]

The push. Could it be something that pushes through the tangible reality we experience in a top to bottom fashion and the physicality of what it is passing through creates a drag or a friction or a resistance and it is this that creates what we perceive as 'the physical' in relation to what we as the point of perception realises ?

The push slows down if you will when it encounters different mediums of physical reality which in turn could set up currents in the push which is what really creates the wind and the tides.
No matter what we do to ourselves we cannot jump far above our height into the water vapour. Even with the bounce of a trampoline we do not get far and always get pushed back down to whatever we jumped off of. If we jump up off of a boat on any body of water we will get pushed into the body of water under its surface and if we keep our gobs shut will bob back to a position where our head is in the water vapour but the remainder of our body is under the waters surface. This is likely because we are pretty similar in regards the drag effect as the water in the main but we hold within a quantity of water vapour which has less drag so doesn't experience the same degree of push hence we bob about with our bodies in the two different mediums.

The liquid water itself creates a different degree of drag on the push force and where it travels off of a waterfall it enters the vapour where it is still subject to the same push it had when flowing over the land but the vapour creates less drag so the liquid water gets pushed down to the ground or the next body of water beneath it whilst the vapour eddies, whirls and vortexes around basically the push on the vapour has the effect of being more slippery than the liquid even though the force pushing through them is the same. Water is changing its state of being all the time so some of the falling liquid joins the vapour it is falling through but the majority falls through the vapour.
When we are daft enough to join the water in going over a fall we behave as it does for the same reason the only difference being when we hit the water we will bob with our heads in the vapour bodies in the water and the water will simply join with the water taking the form of whatever is containing it and moving in the direction of the undercurrent within it. If it falls into a contained body of water with a level surface it will fill to overflowing.

This might also explain the conundrum of steam and vapour rising from the liquid water and entering the vapour.
As the liquid water changes its state from liquid to vapour it becomes more slippery due to there being less drag/friction on the push force so it rises from liquid to vapour. We say it is less dense but the word dense is not the right descriptor. As with the liquid falling through vapour at a waterfall the vapour does the same thing in reverse. Contrary to popular belief the evaporation from liquid waters surface is not driven by the heating of the liquid but by the cooling of the vapour although the liquid vapour boundary is the bottom of the container. Heat always travels towards cold. So when the liquid water is warmer than the vapour above it it will seek to warm the vapour by taking its liquid heat into the vapour.
It can only do this by changing its state of being as the push force has to be lessened for this phenomenon to take place. The only way for the liquid water to lose its drag is to change into vapour.

Just recording and sharing observations and thoughts as they appear.

 

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hi again, TA. You've already seen this.
Flat earth is the portal which led me to alt history and the rest of the lies of the Control System.

Star forts and serpent mounds and resets make the flat world go round.
Martin Liedtke ties all the loose ends together, as much as possible.

Milky Way galaxy in the opening pic? haha, as if.
Martin thinks the world's oceans may have come from the waters below, not above. As he mentions, that's how the Flood happened in the Noah movie.
In Saturnian Cosmology the earth was watered by mists, similar to a glass jar terrarium. Rain was unknown, as was the moon.

TA, where did mud floods come from?


View: https://youtu.be/x7QVUuWnkUQ

 

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More guessing here. I am inclined to take myth as history, but whose myths are we to trust? I like Greek best, and often use those myths as bases to build on with Mayan, Norse, Chinese, other cultures.

Saturn (the planet) was possibly earth's first sun. This was the Golden Age, when humans were giants, and peace and plenty lasted for a great time. Silver, bronze, and iron world ages followed. After the Deluge Saturn was demoted to a star in the dome.

Saturn is often linked to the Demiurge, aka Satan, who satanists worship.
Its rings set it apart from the other twinkly lights in the sky.
What is their function?
maybe a communications antenna, or a motherboard component that connects the user to the software?

 

[grav]

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.




View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2h4pmoGrftM&t=202s[/

 

[Citezenship]

An alternative vid for our alternative thread, utterly bonkers but i really could take this guy seriously.

And he is quite funny too.


View: https://youtu.be/TNckuLzzdWA

 

[Akanah]

Throught the theorie of Erhard Landmann many language are come from a old german language and I would say the word "Earth" or "Terra" was former given to the old plasma-sun which was created by a plasma-event. This plasma-event was first consist of two birkeland-currents with ends looking like two horns or a moon-sickle. So this plasma-event was first the moon-god which later created the sun. And that´s why I am believing the current moon on our sky is a fake-moon. The idea of a flat earth or a ball-earth was related to the old plasma-sun. In one state she must looked like a disc or swastika and in a later state she must looked like a ball. The place we live maybe didn´t have a name in past ages because the place we could live could only be a massgrave with former giant petriefied animals, humans and plants which lived together with smaller beeings in symbiosis. This giant living beings maybe died current the deluge (fall of the old plasma-sun) and the heaviest petriedied being today could bring together all other animals, plants and humans gravitational. So the place we live could have a misshapen look. To underpin the idea of a massgrave there are the people of "Fossilien der Götter" -> Fossilien der Götter

By the way: To locate the ground zero where the old plasma-sun could have fallen of our place you only must look after a place with a high matter compression. Mountains and earthground which consist of iron are suspicious. In our place (called planet) there are not so much mountains consist of iron. The most moutains on our place (predominantly on deserts) looks like giant mudflood-hills which was dried up later. If you merged all Moutains of iron you have located the ground zero (the current world-map is probaly wrong). And around this ground Zero you could find traces of mudflood because water could created above the ground Zero but there it was to hot for water to rain down. Water could only rain down many km behind the iron mountains and ground Zero. Another material you could found around this ground Zero is potassium salt (Kalium) of burned animals on the ground Zero like you would expect by atomic strike (because it was like a atomic strike).

 

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• Citezenship said:
  
  
  An alternative vid for our alternative thread, utterly bonkers but i really could take this guy seriously.
  
  And he is quite funny too.
  
  View: https://youtu.be/TNckuLzzdWA
  
  Click to expand...

  You ain't just a'whistling Dixie when you call him bonkers, I'm a subscriber of his channel and am always confused and impressed with his complex connections.
  Landlubbers like me can't understand geniuses, so I try to eke out ideas my simple brain can comprehend. Like these:
  "Escape from ..." movies are like the earth prison with exits in Antarctica. ok, I get that. Thunderdome is another movie that flatearthers can relate to.
  His geo term, Crater Earth, is a brilliant description of how earth is a mud hole in the Infinite Plane. He likens the moon to a reflection of earth.
  Disney and Wizard of Oz and much scifi also give us clues. He also compares some clues to the computer code oh the human brain/operating system. Which, btw, the Covid vaccine will hack into.
  
  I also liked his Odin image as used by freemasons in rituals, with a wounded leg and an eye patch. They have lots of rituals, I guess.
  I bet the Nazi-Jesuit-Zionist head knockers know most of the secrets.
  
  My totally wild theory is that the Demiurge, or Archons, or whoever the Big Boss is -- uses Saturn as the electromagnetic device that communicates with human quislings, who then sell us down the river. Which is a reference to slavery.

 

[Starman]

An alternative vid for our alternative thread, utterly bonkers but i really could take this guy seriously.

And he is quite funny too.


View: https://youtu.be/TNckuLzzdWA

Thanks Citezenship for pointing us to godgevlamste and his videos on our possible crater earth. First time for me to give some credence to our world as a bowl (with crater rim) rather than a flat plane. His idea of the moon being a reflection of a gigantic earth, with our world just one of the many craters seen on the moon, is super trippy. Once you wrap your head around his perspective, it makes some kind of sense. Is that us up there on the moon waving back at ourselves??

Also, I like the notion that 'space exploration' is actually a trip to other lands on this gigantic earth. The astro-nots are indeed going somewhere, but it's not to space or the moon! They go through the atmosphere to get to arid lands (moon-like) beyond our verdant world bubble ringed by the antarctic ice wall rim. If this were so, it could explain all the infrastructure and people involved with NASA actually doing something, not just faking everything.

I find these thoughts quite satisfying.

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More guessing here. I am inclined to take myth as history, but whose myths are we to trust? I like Greek best, and often use those myths as bases to build on with Mayan, Norse, Chinese, other cultures.

Saturn (the planet) was possibly earth's first sun. This was the Golden Age, when humans were giants, and peace and plenty lasted for a great time. Silver, bronze, and iron world ages followed. After the Deluge Saturn was demoted to a star in the dome.

Saturn is often linked to the Demiurge, aka Satan, who satanists worship.
Its rings set it apart from the other twinkly lights in the sky.
What is their function?
maybe a communications antenna, or a motherboard component that connects the user to the software?

Curious how Saturn has a mythic history of once being a benevolent sun influence incubating the well being of humanity and later as a monster devouring its own children. It is celebrated both as Saturnalia in a bountiful, compassionate way, and also as a satanic being for those wanting to live on the dark side.

Jupiter won the sky battle with Saturn and became the prevailing deity. In Saturn's death throes he turned on those he originally nurtured.

I wonder if this dual Saturn story gave impetus to the example of satan overturning the natural benign order. What once was good, became evil, and you too could follow along in this trajectory that was clearly laid out in the heavens. Screw Jupiter, you could stick with the newly perverted cult of Saturn and worship the darkness.

 

[Citezenship]

You ain't just a'whistling Dixie when you call him bonkers, I'm a subscriber of his channel and am always confused and impressed with his complex connections.

It is out "there" for sure.

His idea of the moon being a reflection of a gigantic earth, with our world just one of the many craters seen on the moon, is super trippy.

For me it is a new perspective, also i keep wondering why the FE creeps like seargent and co turned out to be fakes, very well funded and supported fakes, distraction is always the first line defence of such magicians.

This guy was actually pointed out by this member quite some time ago.

https://stolenhistory.net/members/mike-nolan.18/

 

[Silent Bob]

An alternative vid for our alternative thread, utterly bonkers but i really could take this guy seriously.

And he is quite funny too.


View: https://youtu.be/TNckuLzzdWA

Thanks Citezenship for pointing us to godgevlamste and his videos on our possible crater earth. First time for me to give some credence to our world as a bowl (with crater rim) rather than a flat plane. His idea of the moon being a reflection of a gigantic earth, with our world just one of the many craters seen on the moon, is super trippy. Once you wrap your head around his perspective, it makes some kind of sense. Is that us up there on the moon waving back at ourselves??

Also, I like the notion that 'space exploration' is actually a trip to other lands on this gigantic earth. The astro-nots are indeed going somewhere, but it's not to space or the moon! They go through the atmosphere to get to arid lands (moon-like) beyond our verdant world bubble ringed by the antarctic ice wall rim. If this were so, it could explain all the infrastructure and people involved with NASA actually doing something, not just faking everything.

I find these thoughts quite satisfying.

View attachment 4910​

More guessing here. I am inclined to take myth as history, but whose myths are we to trust? I like Greek best, and often use those myths as bases to build on with Mayan, Norse, Chinese, other cultures.

Saturn (the planet) was possibly earth's first sun. This was the Golden Age, when humans were giants, and peace and plenty lasted for a great time. Silver, bronze, and iron world ages followed. After the Deluge Saturn was demoted to a star in the dome.

Saturn is often linked to the Demiurge, aka Satan, who satanists worship.
Its rings set it apart from the other twinkly lights in the sky.
What is their function?
maybe a communications antenna, or a motherboard component that connects the user to the software?

Curious how Saturn has a mythic history of once being a benevolent sun influence incubating the well being of humanity and later as a monster devouring its own children. It is celebrated both as Saturnalia in a bountiful, compassionate way, and also as a satanic being for those wanting to live on the dark side.

Jupiter won the sky battle with Saturn and became the prevailing deity. In Saturn's death throes he turned on those he originally nurtured.

I wonder if this dual Saturn story gave impetus to the example of satan overturning the natural benign order. What once was good, became evil, and you too could follow along in this trajectory that was clearly laid out in the heavens. Screw Jupiter, you could stick with the newly perverted cult of Saturn and worship the darkness.

Here's an interesting story about the early days of Saturn being our sun, in line with the electric universe theory.

http://saturndeathcult.com/the-sturn-death-cult-part-1/
It starts with the 'Purple Dawn' when we were enveloped in a purple plasma shield from Saturn. It is from a RE perspective but is interesting and probably compatible with FE in some way! At this point there was no time, i.e. no night or day, just a constant purple twilight. The EU theory proposes that gravity (whatever it is) was weaker then, hence the much bigger lifeforms such as dinosaurs. We were lined up with mars and saturn during this period.

'Like an eye looking onto the world from a swirling purple chaos in the heavens, primordial man would have seen one pale disk of light radiating its benign presence from a position locked at the celestial north pole. It had always been there,… its presence an integral, yet silently ethereal part of the Earth’s landscape and mankind’s experience.'

'Earth in its distant past is reported by ancient traditions to have enjoyed a stable relationship with a dimly lit sun or star that sat motionless at the celestial north pole. For cultures in the southern hemisphere the world was a nocturnal haze devoid of all celestial references save for the chaotic void that hug above them. As a silhouetted dot against Saturn’s larger disk, Mars would ultimately provide the ‘pupil’ to the all-seeing eye that would look down on Earth. '

Then we came within the orbit of our current sun, along with some of it's planets such as Jupiter, causing Saturn to initially glow much brighter, giving us the 'Golden' age and our first bright sunlight. Next we got closer to our present sun and I think they say Jupiter took Saturn into its orbit and away from us. This agrees with a lot of old legends, myths etc about Cronos/Saturn being cast out by Zeus/Jupiter.

'Saturn battling with the Chaos Monster, that Dragon or Feathered Serpent of world mythology most likely to have been ejected debris resulting from the birth of the new planet Venus due to Saturn’s massive flare-up. Enhanced electrical plasma activity called Birkeland currents would appear like a pillar of light leading up to Saturn.'

'After its flare-up and ejection of Venus, Saturn would alternate between quieter times in which Venus could be seen behind Mars and more electrically active periods in which Venus flared in a distinctive eight-pointed star burst.'

Lots more on the link posted above!

 

[Citezenship]

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.

I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug






I

I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.






I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.




View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2h4pmoGrftM&t=202s[/

I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug

Sorry about the formating it seems to double every time i try to undo.

 

[grav]

Throught the theorie of Erhard Landmann many language are come from a old german language and I would say the word "Earth" or "Terra" was former given to the old plasma-sun which was created by a plasma-event. This plasma-event was first consist of two birkeland-currents with ends looking like two horns or a moon-sickle. So this plasma-event was first the moon-god which later created the sun. And that´s why I am believing the current moon on our sky is a fake-moon. The idea of a flat earth or a ball-earth was related to the old plasma-sun. In one state she must looked like a disc or swastika and in a later state she must looked like a ball. The place we live maybe didn´t have a name in past ages because the place we could live could only be a massgrave with former giant petriefied animals, humans and plants which lived together with smaller beeings in symbiosis. This giant living beings maybe died current the deluge (fall of the old plasma-sun) and the heaviest petriedied being today could bring together all other animals, plants and humans gravitational. So the place we live could have a misshapen look. To underpin the idea of a massgrave there are the people of "Fossilien der Götter" -> Fossilien der Götter

By the way: To locate the ground zero where the old plasma-sun could have fallen of our place you only must look after a place with a high matter compression. Mountains and earthground which consist of iron are suspicious. In our place (called planet) there are not so much mountains consist of iron. The most moutains on our place (predominantly on deserts) looks like giant mudflood-hills which was dried up later. If you merged all Moutains of iron you have located the ground zero (the current world-map is probaly wrong). And around this ground Zero you could find traces of mudflood because water could created above the ground Zero but there it was to hot for water to rain down. Water could only rain down many km behind the iron mountains and ground Zero. Another material you could found around this ground Zero is potassium salt (Kalium) of burned animals on the ground Zero like you would expect by atomic strike (because it was like a atomic strike).

An Electric Universe theory: 'In principio' was a plasma event.
A gnostic belief: Sophia became Gaia.
Could we have a giantess computer coder?

I am not being frivolous, just trying to merge and simplify several origin theories.
And we can't forget Saturn as the first sun, when humans and/or titans lived on earth in a purple haze.

Your avatar is interesting. Can you tell us about it?
I see a dragon.
There be dragons here. There were giants in the earth.

 

[Starman]

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.

I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug






I

I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.






I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug

Thie analemma is another proof that scientists lie.
Astronomers and astrophysicists have to know that the earth's alleged movements are false.



The figure 8 pattern the sun makes overhead in a year (measured every day at the same time) is created by the sun moving in the dome.




View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2h4pmoGrftM&t=202s[/

I have to stop doing this but it just hits my crystal in the right place to make it resonate.


View: https://youtu.be/7U25d1Ngaug

Sorry about the formating it seems to double every time i try to undo.

Wow, there's some truth embedded here (the planet of the Ape-p video). I can feel it, but it's currently beyond me to get a handle on it. I'll have to dig deeper.

All this ancient storytelling is not about a wild imagination. It has to do with the nature of reality and how cultures encoded the knowledge for themselves and for posterity. Our modern conceit and stupidity thinks the old gods were just cults of personalities. I think these images and stories were meant to tell us how the world worked for them. It's what they discovered and they are showing how they utilized their knowledge (if we can decipher their meaning).

Nothing is completely hidden from us, it's only veiled.

 

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Then we came within the orbit of our current sun, along with some of it's planets such as Jupiter, causing Saturn to initially glow much brighter, giving us the 'Golden' age and our first bright sunlight. Next we got closer to our present sun and I think they say Jupiter took Saturn into its orbit and away from us. This agrees with a lot of old legends, myths etc about Cronos/Saturn being cast out by Zeus/Jupiter.

This ^ is a nice feature. When I highlighted text, a reply message appeared and made it easy to quote a portion of a long post.

Saturnian cosmology accepts fake-sci cosmology, which we need to deconstruct in order to tie in with fake history. Not sure of other ancient myths, but Greek chronicles have Saturn/Cronos swallowing his own children.

That always confused me.
This version, however, makes lots of sense, in the Electric Universe perspective.
Not that planets or gods fought each other like we see in movies.
More like........what? A light bulb flaring up and blotting out other light sources?
Or some electric phenomenon.

I tend to see earth/ reality/Genesis as a computer program in which gnostic gamers play Simworld, with frequent resets.
Velikovsky claimed that Venus was born as a comet from the head of her father, Zeus/Jupiter. She fought Mars over several centuries, frightening humans in the so-called classical period. She threw down burning naphtha and upheaveled the earth on a regular basis, every 52 years as I recall.

To repeat an earlier point, Saturn is imo the master key.
The part of the motherboard that sends commands to other components?
And who has access to the Saturn key?