SH Archive Human Origins: Are We Hybrids?

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-06-15 19:42:56
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The two serpents of the Caduceus and double helix of DNA is the sign in plain sight. The suspicious thing about DNA is that up until quite recently they could not provide a picture of it. This is the best they can come up with.

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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-18 03:45:56
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I remember reading an ethics report about this years ago and they were talking about how to handle sadness and depression in these creatures ...supposedly if they ever became viable adult lab specimens ..which convinced me that they had gone a lot farther than embryos , only on the basis that these scientists are still trying to figure out if animals reason and have feelings or feel pain and even now you can download article after article discussing this. .all that being so wondering about social awkwardness and depression and body image is pretty out of character for them unless they had run into this problem....or so I think
 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-06-18 11:09:30
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Can you provide a link to this report, pls?

Hybrids are prone to depression due to imperfect biochemistry. Depression (chemical imbalance) is the root cause for the aggression in human beings. Aggression is the foundation of civilizations. All civilizations fall when their level of aggression goes down due to complacency and easy life. Hybrids need civilizations to survive.
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-18 16:03:20
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I dont know where to find that report Im two laptops away from that information,iit was from some British Bio Ethics report. that cropped up in my news feed at the time. Im sure its scrubbed from the Shiternet by now ,that's why I just mention reading it .all I remember was thinking this is the most inhumane horrifying nightmare I ever read sorry I don't have more than that I the link is long gone I think this was 8 or 9 years ago
Oxford Academic here I found this for you
 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-06-18 18:22:54
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Thank you. The article is from 2020, whereas in the previous one I cited they claimed that the research was suspended due to the lack of funding. Obviously they are still on it.

Everything we do is a reflection of the way we were created ourselves. We cannot help but tinker with other creatures because we were tinkered too. We cannot help but envy the natural species because they just blend in with their environment and we can not. Even the question of ethics is irrelevant as we just can not help ourselves. Regardless of the amount of debates, we will keep on tinkering.
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Dogs as similar hybrids to human are extremely prone to depression. They develop abnormal behaviors such as scratching themselves until they bleed or eating the door (self-harm and nail biting in humans). Vets frequently give antidepressants to dogs. The so called "domestication syndrome" involves floppy ears, spotted coat, friendliness, brain and teeth shrinkage.

Domesticated animals have significantly smaller brains than wild animals. Whether it's a dog versus a wolf, or even farmed trout compared to wild trout, the brains of human-bred animals are just tinier. Domestic pigs have brains 35% smaller than wild boars, while domesticated cats have 30% less brain mass than their wild counterparts. It turns out that in domesticated animals, the parts of the brain involved in flight-or-flight are significantly smaller. And that's how we got the cuddly, friendly, and frankly, slightly dumb animals.

As domesticated specie, we humans have parts of the brain responsible for flight-or-flight also smaller than previous ancestors. Neanderthals had bigger brains than modern humans. These parts of the brain used to make us more individual, sharper and original. Hence the herd mentality and depression in domesticated animals and humans today.
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-06-19 02:20:42
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Do you remember a few years back all those weird looking carcasses washing up on shore on the east coast? Of course scientists gave some official explanation of what the misshapen corpses were but I don't know anyone who believed it.

Maybe the experiments are just dumped off the end of a pier and a couple of science guys get paid to say they're dead sea turtles?

Yes, I know I'm deep into conspiracy territory now but, if you remember seeing the pics and accompanying identifications, you'll understand why.
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-19 06:22:08
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I cant remember the labyrinth I was in where I found out that a human male fertility test was the subjects sperm injected into a genetically modified female mouse,if she got pregnant your boys could swim. She had a modified reproductive system and produced human ova. I really believe all these stories about underground secret labs and unspeakable atrocities .I think this has been a thing for a long time , funny in Guardians of the Galaxy we have this little genetically modified Raccoon talking about his very thing.

 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-06-25 14:28:24
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The following material is rather fascinating and I present it as it is without any prejudice. It is the lucid reflections by Salvador Freixedo that appeared in the 11th issue of the old INEXPLICATA journal. It talks about beings above us which seem to control us. To me personally, it gives me an idea how TPTB could have been so organized and effective for millennia. It also hints at the human origin, which is the topic of this thread. It also provides a support to an idea which I've always had that all of our technological breakthroughs were telepathically "whispered" into the minds of people like Tesla.

Salvador Freixedo was a Catholic Jesuit Priest and later on a prominent ufologist. He died pretty recently in Oct, 2019 but I am sure he would have had a lot to say about the c-19 fiasco.

Let's see what you make of it.

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- There are extra-human, intelligent (non-corporeal?) beings on our planet.

- For those without prejudice, the increasingly greater presence of UFOS in our skies and the mysterious and marvelous crop circles seen in so many countries are proof of this.

- We must put aside being surprised at their incomprehensible behavior.

- The presentation of new cases contributes to a fuller understanding, but it is of secondary importance. The phenomenon must today be considered from a sociological and psychological standpoint, related with the evolution of the human race.

- It is logical to lack a thorough understanding of them, since they hail from another dimension or plane of existence (in the same way that animals are only able to comprehend some of our actions).

- They have been on this world for millions of years, and have been here before we appeared.

- There exists the impression that some of them are arriving from beyond the planet.

- The reason they have not openly presented themselves is that they prefer to keep us believing that we own this planet and act with complete freedom. Along these lines, the reader shall discover other reasons for their secrecy.

- As is the case with humans, there are some among these beings who are evolved and beneficial to mankind, while there are other who are malevolent and only want to use us or toy with us.

- They make use of us in different ways (just like humans make use of animals in different ways) and we are unaware of being used.

- It would seem that they employ the subtle energy produced by our brain and our psyche as a whole (emotions, fears, hatred, pain, joy).

- It would seem that the presence of malevolent ones is felt with greater strength than that of the good ones. The latter appear to obey some cosmic law which consists of non-interference. The former do not abide by this law and their presence among us is much greater and noticeable.

- It is a great mistake to believe that since they are more technically advanced than we (to judge by the devices they use to move through our atmosphere) that they are also ethically evolved. Their actions tell us that this is not the case, although it may be thet their ethics are different from our own.

- Their means of traveling the Cosmos transcends our knowledge and the laws of physics, as noted by great physicists and mathematicians (i.e., Fred Hoyle and Perkins), and as the aliens themselves have said on many occasions. The "dogma" of nothing being able to exceed the speed of light is false, as accepted by experimental physicists.

- These superhuman intelligences created the different races of Man throughout the millennia using apes as stock. To judge by abundant fossil remains, our planet has been the home of many different human races (some of them giants) who have existed and vanished over the course of many millions of years, contrary to the beliefs stated by archaeologists and paleontologists.

- The intelligent non-human creatures among us are very diverse and have diverse origins. While some appear to hail from physical worlds similar to our own, others appear to come from other dimensions or planes of existence which are hard to locate in a physical realm, and very hard to envision in our minds, which are locked in a three-dimensional world. Nonetheless, these beings, while in our world, act according to our physical laws.

- Their purposes are also different and we are aware of rivalries and struggles among them.

- Some of these beings have the capacity to adopt completely human shapes, which enable them to live with us without being detected.

- Human religions have been invented by these beings as a strategy to control our minds. To implement them throughout the millennia, they have made use of humans who have been trained in a special way (Of course, I'm referring to the founders of all the great religions).

- All religions serve a specific purpose of the non-humans, although humans do not exactly know what this purpose may be. It probably has to do with the mental, emotional and social climate generated by each religion in the long run.

- The authentic miracles which come about in all religions are directly or indirectly the work of these beings and are aimed at binding the minds of the faithful.

- These non-human intelligences shave the capacity to influence the human mind at will. They normally do not do so individually, but have done it on a collective scale, influencing the course of human history. To do this, they have availed themselves of the leaders of many nations, who have unconsciously followed their indications. In many cases, these beings (often taken for gods) indicated their will through dreams, apparitions, inspirations or by using soothsayers and diviners who were consulted by kings and leaders.

- However, there is also the direct and individual influence of these beings on humans. In ufology, these individuals are known as "contactees". There are hundreds of thousands of them in all continents and social levels, although the majority of them keep it secret out of a fear of being considered insane. Some--the minority--have benefitted from contact. However, most of them have been negatively affected and their minds have been left disarrayed and confused. The fact is that the majority of these beings have a tendency to lie and toy with the contactee. We are to them what animals are to us: we love or hate animals, we can benefit them or hunt them down, but in the end, we always make use of them.

- Contact may be purely mental (as the contactee hears a voice within his head) or visual (apparently physical), as the contactee sees the object or the person communicating with him.

- The content of the message received by the contactee terms to be eschatological or cosmogonical in nature, heralding major changes and catastrophes due to the abuses we are inflicting upon the planet, or regarding the history of the Earth and the solar system. The being may present itself as a deity or higher being who urges the contactee to disclose the news and converts the site into a place of pilgrimage or worship where the masses may gather. These messages tend to combine some truths with many untruths.

- These beings, much like their vehicles, are normally invisible to the human eye, although they may become visible at will. On many occasions only small groups of people have seen them, but photo cameras, radar and underwater sonar have captured them an infinite number of times. In recent years there have been waves of UFOs seen by thousands of people (for example, in Mexico, Peru, Chile and Belgium) and in the 1950's, they were seen for an entire week over the U.S. Capitol. There are thousands of photographs and videos of these objects.

- The world's powers are not only in contact with one group or another of these beings, but have been collaborating with them for some fifty years on largely military projects involving a mechanical, psychic and biological technology completely unknown to the official scientific community. Some of these technologies were deployed during the Gulf War.

- The Great Powers deny such contact exists and have expended huge sums of money to keep humankind from knowing this. In their zeal to achieve this, they have bypassed constitutions and legal codes. But there is an infinity of proof to the contrary. The mass media has been bought off, deceived or gagged to keep the truth from being known. One of the most common ways to keep the masses from finding this out is to ridicule researchers, making them seem insane or anti-scientific, but on many occasions they have gone as far as to kill scientists and important persons who might divulge the truth.

- The SETI project, as well as Project Blue Book, the Condon, Robertson, and Sturrock Reports, and various Air Force statements are deceits perpetrated by the U.S. authorities to make people believe that serious study is being conducted on the subject.

- At this time, ufology's main task should be try to find to what extent the secret masters of the planet (among which the military is prevalent and not necessarily those who appear in the newspapers) are conniving with these alien intelligences and what are their ultimate aims.

- These great world leaders are contactee in their own way, and it is likely that they are being deceived like the majority of normal contactee. In this case, humanity is being led to the edge of a precipice.

- To judge by the enormous environmental deterioration (which has become a manifest change in the world's climate) and the state of social, mental and spiritual agitation throughout the planet, one cannot help but believe that we are being led to global catastrophe.

- There is the impression that ideologies, customs, technologies, amusements and economic systems which are suicidal to humanity are being imposed on us through the mass media, mainly television. World leaders, who are largely dishonest, corrupt and addicted to power, are blind to the serious problems facing humanity and are clumsily and unconsciously following the orders of something that wants to destroy humanity or enslave it.

- The majority of ufologists are upset that the great powers will not admit to the presence of these beings among us, while others believe that the time is approaching when they will have no choice but to make such an admission. But I wonder: when they speak to us, will they tell us the whole truth? And what will we do when they say it? Will we then become concerned over what the intentions of these cosmic beings or visitors may be?

- If they are among us, if they are more intelligent than us, and if they have spent so much time among us, it is only logical to believe that we have been manipulated and still manipulate us in some way, just as more evolved humans have manipulated and used less-evolved cultures in a thousand ways). Therefore, wouldn't it be convenient to start to find out what their intentions are, to channel them to our benefit or to defend against them should they prove harmful? I think that this is more important than presenting new cases, remain startled by their erratic behavior or express our discontent at officialdom's silence.

- If humanity finally becomes aware that it has been deceived and used for millennia, would this not be a great piece of news to stir us up and make us forsake false values we have hitherto considered basic or sacred (nations, races, religions, languages) but which in the long run have only promotes war, injustice and divisions, and began to change the horrors of human history into a more rational and just one? Have these "sacred values" been a ploy by these intelligences to keep us distracted and not realizing that we are slaves?
 
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Username: Eagle777
Date: 2020-06-25 18:38:50
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Interesting theory. But isn't it possible that animals and other forms of organisms were created by "human material" after the reset, if we are to share similarities with them? Weren't the humans the original creation?

I've heard that humans before were made of silicon, were biologically immortal and didn't reproduce - just like Gods.
 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-11 19:22:00
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My old mentor used to say that the silicon is going to be the most important mineral in the human body in the future.

I encourage everyone to read this:

Original Human Diet
 
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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-07-11 19:49:03
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I have read it, but i am dumb and failed to make the connection between meat diet and silicone. Could you explain it a bit for me?
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-07-11 20:37:40
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Meat is important, but ketosis is a fall-back mechanism for the superior sugar-metabolism. Sometimes neurological conditions improve when using ketosis temporarily, because in those cases the brain is often unable to properly use glucose. There's a reason kids prefer sugar, it's essential for brain development. I prefer the idea that humans originally lived on pure electromagnetic life energy. Then they devolved to live on fruits, eggs, honey, dairy. Then they devolved further and started to need a lot of meat to keep up with the stressful life. Then grains were introduced as slave food to keep the population numb. So personally I mostly eat chocolate, coffee, fruits, eggs, honey, dairy and meat.

The problem of Alzheimer's disease as a clue to immortality Part 2
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-07-11 20:52:34
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Do you have any documentation for any of this conjecture or is it all just speculation?
I saw a lot of this kind of discussion on ATS along with a bunch of blurry photos but never one shred of verifiable hard evidence.

Considering I'm AB- and supposedly an alien myself, I'd be interested in meeting some off-world cousins. ? Just haven't seen anything that can't be explained with earthly origins. Happy to change my tune if actual proof is presented.
 
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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-11 20:58:13
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Don't agree. Most organs and tissues in the body, including the brain, actually prefer, if we let them, to use ketones, the energy- producing by- products from the metabolism of fats. [ Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas]

Human body run on fat. All sugars get converted into fatty acids. Fat is our most efficient, dense, and prolonged- burning fuel. It is essential for the functioning of the human brain. Our extended dependence on the meat and fat of animals through frozen winters allowed for the rapid enlargement and development of the human brain. The dominant form of fatty acids in the human brain is omega- 3; in chimps and other primates, it is mostly omega- 6. This is a very significant distinction and one that is the likely result of these evolutionary, ice age–induced dietary changes.

No evidence, it's just the lucid reflections by Fleixedo but rings true ... to me.
 
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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-07-12 05:54:55
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The state between awake and drifting into dreams is where Tesla said epiphany happens. I had tjat experience. I think it is kind of an access to species memory, and not some being whispering answers into our minds.
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-07-12 06:41:03
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I've read that book.

Glucose gets directly converted into energy, and the liver can store up to 400g of glucose. If glucose isn't present, the body converts protein into glucose to make up for the missing glucose, which is a catabolic process. In parallel, the body uses fatty acids for energy as well, so glucose and fat aren't mutually exclusive. What's mutually exclusive is running on both glucose and ketones. Some dietary fatty acids can bypass the liver metabolism and get used as energy by the brain and other organs directly (medium chain triglycerides, found in coconuts for example) which has a similar therapeutic effect as ketosis. The body can convert excess glucose into fatty acids to store the energy for later use. The main fatty acids the body produces from sugar are saturated and mono-unsaturated fats (almost 70%). There's only a small amount of poly-unsaturated fats in the human brain, because poly-unsaturated fats are highly unstable: Most of the brain consists of saturated and mono-unsaturated fats. The only poly-unsaturated fats the body produces are Omega-9 fatty acids, which are more stable than omega-6 and omega-3. Omega-9 fatty acids do not create the highly inflammatory Eicosanoids in the body, which produce prostaglandins. Medicine counters these prostaglandins with NSAIDs. There are more omega-6 fatty acids in the newborns brain than omega-3 fatty acids (source), which is a result of wrong food choices of the previous generations. The mother gives her fatty-acid composition to the child. In ideal conditions, the newborns brain would synthesize mostly omega-9 fatty acids, which would have an enourmously protective effect throughout life.

Membranes, plasma membranes, and surfaces

Fats, functions and malfunctions.

The fact that the body always prefers glucose if it is present even in small amounts, means that ketosis is a fall-back mechanism in order for the body to survive if there isn't any glucose at all available.

Fat is a survival mechanism to survive in times of scarcity. Sugar is the opposite, it signals abundance. Abundance means that glucose is available every day so that the body doesn't need to store lots of it.
 
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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-07-12 07:43:21
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I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle. I dont think the body "prefers" either glucose or ketone. It is simply "what takes less energy to produce", and doesnt care if one is more efficient than the other. Like how the E(5 and 10% bioshitfuel) fuels, i can fuel my car with E fuel that destroys the engine, but is cheap, or fuel with 100 octane fuel that costs much more, but keeps the engine very healthy, and it runs better,consumes less fuel etc. Ketosis is fairly hard on our bodies, especially on the kidneys as they fight a serious battle to retain salt in the body. Modern diet, even modern salt is nothing like what is needed for optimal ketosis based diet. The meat is shit quality, the salt is refined 3 times at least. When was the last time you have seen or eaten salt-preserved meat?
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-07-12 08:43:01
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No, it's pretty self-evident that the body prefers glucose over ketones. Because in the presence of both glucose and fat, the body doesn't go into ketosis. Only in the almost total absence of glucose does the metabolism switch to ketosis. It's also important to see that ketosis isn't about metabolizing fat. The body metabolizes fat all the time even in the presence of glucose.

Ketosis is about creating ketones that can fuel the only organ that can not metabolize fats: The brain. Which means the body considers the brain the most important organ to provide with glucose. If you ingest for example only 100g of carbohydrates per day and the rest of the calories comes from fat, almost 100% of the glucose will go to the brain. If ketosis were so important than the body would rely on it even in the presence of small amounts of carbohydrates. But even small amounts of carbohyrates shut down the ketone production.
 
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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-07-12 09:51:40
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You fail to take into account that glucose is already usable and fat needs to be converted into ketones first. Nature takes the easy way not because thats preferred, but because it costs less energy.
Glucose is ready to use. Ketones need to be made by expending energy, the kidney needs to expend a great deal of energy to keep salt levels etc.
At this point its clear to me that its not about preference, but energy expended to get energy.
It is clear that ketones are more effective once they are ready to use.
But carbs take less energy to make energy from them, and the body doesnt care that it is dirty.
If it were preference, the body would prefer ketones because they are more clean if that makes sense.
But the body doesnt care. Just like people. We buy the cheap stuff. Even if it costs more in the long run.
 
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