SH Archive Iced Over Canals in Greenland

[Worsaae]

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@Plissken, I think Ibernia is just spain

It's possible that Vinland is simply Finland and not America but if I remember correctly they did find viking remains in North America and on Greenland. The northern parts of the earth are close to each other

 

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@Plissken, I think Ibernia is just spain

It's possible that Vinland is simply Finland and not America but if I remember correctly they did find viking remains in North America and on Greenland. The northern parts of the earth are close to each other

The old name for Ireland is Ibernia or Hibernia. On the map it is west of Anglia & Scotia which would be England and Scotland.

 

[Worsaae]

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@knowncitizen, Yes this makes sense. I'm confusing it with the Iberian Peninsula

 

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[USER=316]@Plissken[/USER], I think Ibernia is just spain

That would probably be Iberia, which is also questionable for we had a lot of geographical nameshifting done to our maps.

 

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Ok, I start to think that the alleged island of Greenland is one of the most secret places on our Earth. Just take a look at it via any "satellite" mapping service out there:

• Google Maps
• ArcGis Maps
• Bing Maps
• Yandex Maps

Unless Greenland is as flat as a pancake (only Kansas is allowed to be that flat), TPTB is doing another one of their "in your face" things. The place is free of any relief whatsoever. Bar the coastal areas, our Greenland is just a blob of white. We don't even have ice dunes out there.

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It does not matter how much you zoom in, or zoom out. The only way Greenland could be this way, if it was a humongous ice skating rink after a mild snow fall.

How old is Greenlandic Ice?

With anything related to ice or sand, we have to be prepared for a load of pseudo-scientific gibberish. It never fails, and there it comes:

• More than a million years ago, frosty Greenland was ice-free, its bare bedrock exposed for 280,000 years, researchers have found.
• The atomic isotope beryllium 10 told the scientists that the rock had at one point been ice-free. To gauge how long that period lasted, they compared the amount of beryllium to quantities of aluminium 26. It appears at a 7 to 1 ratio to beryllium 10, but decays twice as fast. The quantity of aluminium atoms relative to beryllium told the scientists that once the ice cover melted away, the rock was exposed for more than 280,000 years, until about 1.1 million years ago.
• Unfrozen: Greenland Was Once Ice-Free for 280,000 Years

Official from LiveScience.COM: The ice on the island of Greenland is 1.1 mln years old.

Wikipedia has more entertaining disinformation:

• The presence of ice-rafted sediments in deep-sea cores recovered from northeast Greenland, in the Fram Strait, and south of Greenland indicated the more or less continuous presence of either an ice sheet or ice sheets covering significant parts of Greenland for the last 18 million years.
• From about 11 million years ago to 10 million years ago, the Greenland Ice Sheet was greatly reduced in size.
• The Greenland Ice Sheet formed in the middle Miocene by coalescence of ice caps and glaciers.
• The Western and Eastern Greenland mountains constitute passive continental margins that were uplifted in two phases, 10 and 5 million years ago, in the Miocene epoch.
• There was an intensification of glaciation during the Late Pliocene. Ice sheet formation occurred in connection to uplift of the West Greenland and East Greenland uplands.
• Greenland ice sheet - Wikipedia

And my favorite one:

• The weight of the ice has depressed the central area of Greenland; the bedrock surface is near sea level over most of the interior of Greenland, but mountains occur around the periphery, confining the sheet along its margins. If the ice suddenly disappeared, Greenland would most probably appear as an archipelago, at least until isostasy lifted the land surface above sea level once again.

KD: What a crack up of an official storyline. Are they even serious?

• The ice pushed all the hills, and may be mountains down, and leveled everything near the sea level.
• If all the ice melts, don't be surprised if the iland of Greenland ends up being a group of islands.

Somehow in 1638 or J638, people thought that Greenland, just like Friesland, Muscovy and Scandia, was only covered in snow for 6 months.

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Well, and of course those "made up" maps of the past. This here is a 1570 Mercator Map. I guess he drew our Greenland as it was millions of years ago. Good thing he remembered to include all those "later depressed" mountains and such.

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There are multiple other maps where Greenland is free of ice, but this is not the point of this article.

Some History

Per Wiki: Three-quarters of Greenland is covered by the only permanent ice sheet outside Antarctica. With a population of about 56,480 (2013), it is the least densely populated territory in the world. About a third of the population live in Nuuk, the capital and largest city. The Arctic Umiaq Line ferry acts as a lifeline for western Greenland, connecting the various cities and settlements. The image below should give you a general idea of how populated the place is, and where everyone is at.

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Now we go into the territory of "how do we know all that"?

• Greenland has been inhabited at intervals over at least the last 4,500 years by Arctic peoples whose forebears migrated there from what is now Canada.
• Norsemen settled the uninhabited southern part of Greenland beginning in the 10th century, having previously settled Iceland to escape persecution from the King of Norway and his central government.
• These Norsemen would later set sail from Greenland and Iceland, with Leif Erikson becoming the first known European to reach North America nearly 500 years before Columbus reached the Caribbean islands.
• Inuit peoples arrived in the 13th century.
• Though under continuous influence of Norway and Norwegians, Greenland was not formally under the Norwegian crown until 1262. The Norse colonies disappeared in the late 15th century when Norway was hit by the Black Death and entered a severe decline.
• Soon after their demise, beginning in 1499, the Portuguese briefly explored and claimed the island, naming it Terra do Lavrador (later applied to Labrador in Canada).

I guess it's official now. Leif Erikson "discovered" America. It would be appropriate to change all the Columbus related names to reflect the proper discoverer.

• Erikson Day
• Washington D.E. for District Eriksonia
• British Eriksonia
• Erikson, Ohio
• Etc...

More Realistic History?

In the early 18th century, Danish explorers reached Greenland again. To strengthen trading and power, Denmark–Norway affirmed sovereignty over the island. Because of Norway's weak status, it lost sovereignty over Greenland in 1814 when the union was dissolved. Greenland became Danish in 1814, and was fully integrated in the Danish state in 1953 under the Constitution of Denmark.

• In my humble opinion, this is probably where a semi-verifiable history of Greenland starts.

What are they hiding?

I have not searched in depth, as far as possible cities and other objects go. Based on prior experiences, it is possible that Goggle Ngram could produce some relevant results. In this case I wanted to point out a possible historical slip up. In this case it has the appearance of a man made canal. I have hard time imagining something like this being natural. The canal, if it's still there would have to be approximately 630-650 miles long. That is approximately 700 in kilometers.

• When zoomed in: It is said that these straights were formerly passable, but now they are shut up with ice.
• Map Source: 1747 Old Greenland

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Well, zooming in actually does help out a bit. I think the beginning of our canal can be seen when you closely inspect the South-Eastern part of Greenland. These are the approximate coordinates (67°47'55.92" N 33°43'07.29" W), and you can pretty much see it in Google Earth only.

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The man made canal is just a hypothesis of mine, for we do have multiple other maps. Some of those are capable of raising some eyebrows too.

This here is a 1592 map by Vincenzo Coronelli, displaying the southern tip of Greenland with no ice. It has two straights, or channels, whatever you wanna call those. Additionally it presents us with an ever confusing topic of whether Friesland ever existed.

• Nice trees they had growing there in 1592, huh?

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Illustration taken from the book "Description et histoire naturelle du Groenland" by Egede, Hans and published by Philibert in 1763.

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It appears that once everything froze over in Greenland, certain memories remained, and based on those memories people could recreate the location of the prior canals going east to west. The maps above, including the below 1770 map could be examples of just that. If I was to play with dates of the catastrophe, than based on what I've seen so far, we are talking about 1650s.

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Of course we have other older maps where we do not see any channels. The one below is claimed to be a 1569 map by Gerardus Mercator. There could be multiple explanations for that, with the most simple ones involving the timing of their possible appearance in reality. That I will get to in a separate time related thread.

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The PTB is covered as usually. They simply call it "the incorrect assumption". Below you can see just that:

• Map of Greenland by Egede (1818), illustrating the incorrect assumption that the Norse settlements of Greenland were located in South-West and South-East Greenland. Many of the localities named in the Icelandic Sagas are placed on this map at imaginary sites on the unknown east coast of Greenland. The map is from the second English edition of Hans Egede’s ‘Description of Greenland’, a slightly modified version of the first English edition published in 1741.
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Crossing Greenland

I think one of the first people to allegedly cross Greenland East to West was Fridtjof Nansen. If Greenland was indeed inhabited and ice-free some 500 years ago, I doubt he was the first one, but as it stands, he crossed in in 1888.

• In 1888, Fridtjof Nansen, a mere biology student at the University of Oslo and an avid skier, organized a daring expedition: crossing the Greenlandic ice-sheet from East (a mostly uninhabited wasteland) to West (where most of the Greenlanders lived) as opposed to the previous Greenlandic expeditions which had all started from West to East.
• Nansen was not alone on this journey. He assembled a crew that included some highly competent and hardy men.
• From left to right: Ole Nielsen Ravna, Christian Dietrichson, Fridtjof Nansen, Otto Sverdrup, Kristian Kristiansen Trana and Samuel Johansen Balto.

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It is rather remarkable, that Nansen's initial proposed route was exactly where the above-mentioned canal would/could be. Mr. Nansen and Co. were unable to execute the planned route (red) and had to settle for the one they actually took (green).

• KD: While we will never find out the real purpose, and the real route they took, I find the red route to be fairly suspicious. Pretty sure there is a plausible explanation for such a coincidence. In my opinion, "plausibility" is quickly becoming an unreliable historical commodity.

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Landscape and Icemelt

Apparently scientists are highly concerned with how fast Greenland is loosing its "million year old" ice sheet. As a matter of fact they appear to be freaking out. Global Warming, aka Climate Change is in full swing.

• The scale of the melt in Greenland during the August heatwave is difficult to comprehend but satellite imagery shows the true extent of the thaw.
• Arctic heatwave causes 12billion tons of ice 'to vanish in 24 hours' – as Greenland endures rare 22C roasting
• Before and after pictures show Greenland's rapid ice melt from space
• Greenland ice is melting four times faster than in 2003, study finds
• 12 billion tons of Greenland’s ice sheet melt in one day
• Greenland Ice Sheet Today | Surface Melt Data presented by NSIDC

Well, chances are, our scientists will have a few things they will have to explain way before year 2100. That is when all the ice is supposed to melt. Are we gonna see some artifacts in there?

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KD: Anyways, I wanted to throw something interesting for a discussion. Greenland could be a place with a lot of preserved ancient stuff. Not like we are gonna see any of it, but the recent ice melting development allows for some exciting thoughts. Even on our end, with a diligent older texts search, we could produce certain results. That is for those who wants to explore further.

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TPTB is trying to get everyone concerned with the Global Warming a.k.a. Climate Change. Sounds like our Earth system is re-balancing itself and getting back to its original state. May be the narrative should answer up to what froze everything up some 500 years. To avoid that our pseudo-scientists prefer to blow "million year old" smoke up our everything. Sadly, the tactic appears to work.

Related Threads:

• Massive crater under Greenland’s ice points to climate-altering impact in the time of humans
• What is hiding in Greenland?
• Polar Freezers and the Global Warming
• 1597: trees used to grow in Antarctica?
• Antarctica: melting snow reveals ancient human settlement?

@KD, I was sitting here thinking about the very points you made about hidden antiquities and the cause and purpose for the ice freeze.

I completely agree that TPTWB/AOC (architects of control) are afraid of the ice melt because of what will be revealed. If this is true, then I wonder if the event was “natural” or artificial induced by them using technology. How could it be that we went through these events and only a few people were able to benefit from it? If these events are natural, are they aware of the cycles and taking advantage of it?

This makes me think that if they are simply aware of and taking advantage of the cycles, then they know that another shift is eminent. This provided them with plenty of cover for a mass extinction event around “climate” change.

 

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This makes me think that if they are simply aware of and taking advantage of the cycles, then they know that another shift is eminent. This provided them with plenty of cover for a mass extinction event around “climate” change.

If thats the case we should see noticable changes during the next 5 years, as the climate alarmists have declared the end of the world to be very soon, and they will lose all of their steam if nothing happens during the next decade.

 

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If thats the case we should see noticable changes during the next 5 years, as the climate alarmists have declared the end of the world to be very soon, and they will lose all of their steam if nothing happens during the next decade.

I continue to be perplexed as to whether these glacier events are natural or artificially induced. Is it possible that the earth has powerful meridian points that can be triggered to bring extreme glacier events? It may seem strange, but I get a sense that they have knowledge beyond the “weather” HAARP systems talked popularly promoted.

Why is it that the polar regions are frozen over with all kinds of tight restrictions?

 

[KD Archive]

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I continue to be perplexed as to whether these glacier events are natural or artificially induced. Is it possible that the earth has powerful meridian points that can be triggered to bring extreme glacier events? It may seem strange, but I get a sense that they have knowledge beyond the “weather” HAARP systems talked popularly promoted.

Why is it that the polar regions are frozen over with all kinds of tight restrictions?

I tried to hypothesize on the issue:

• Polar Freezers and the Global Warming

 

[Archive]

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I tried to hypothesize on the issue:

• Polar Freezers and the Global Warming

I Just sped through it and as always, your research and insight is at the top; I completely agree with your hypothesis.

Now, if we assume that the AOC/TPB are the creators and maintainers of the freezer box, then my next question is: how long have they been in control of the re-sets and how many have we been through?

I remember many years ago while working for at&t, I got into a debate with a Seventh Day Adventist regarding how long we have been on the this plane. She took the position that according to the Bible, we have only been here for 5000+ years, while I insisted that we have been here for tens of thousands if not longer. I laugh when I think about that conversation given all that I've researched and learned since.

 

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Couple of images of the Petermann Fjord on the coast of Northern Greenland

Petermann Fjord - Wikipedia

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In the second photo, it looks like the cutouts were once buildings, similar to the mudflooded like the Lalibella Churches in Ethiopia. They look to be cut out and the distance between each cutout is a bit too perfect to be a natural occurrence.
Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but you can almost see the bones of the buildings in each cutout.
Fascinating stuff.

Arctic Lands, huh?

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I just watched a documentary on Youtube about the Nazis and the occult.
They mention in the doc that the Nazis believed there were "wormholes"
in Alaska and and other northern snow covered locales that could take you to other realms
and the arctic.

His Dark Materials, based on the trilogy of books, focuses on the snow covered lands, the northern most point
on the plane being a portal to other dimensions. The Aurora Borealis also plays into the book/tv series.
Everything that is hidden seems to be in places with lots of snow.
Another area that comes to mind is the forbidden places in Alaska.
A TV show on History called something like "The Last Alaskans"
talks about the 6 families who live in this barren region.
They are the only ones allowed to live there and if they ever leave, die, or don't pass their property
on to their family, they will lose it and no one will ever live there again.
If the six families ever leave or die out, the US Government has declared it is a protected area
where no one will ever live again. I'm paraphrasing but this is the gist of it.
Why would it be so important to keep people off these barren ice-cold harsh lands forever?

 

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Erik the Red settling in Greenland around circa 980 AD makes total sense if you consider the medievel warm period which affected the UK around that time. In fact, in terms of warm northern weather, we know from stories handed down that there were vineyards as far north as Northumberland, and possibly beyond.

This website suggests that vineyards were a going concern up to the 55th parallel and existed in Norway, Russia and the north of England. The statement within the Domesday book of 1085 quotes the most northen vineyard being near York.

• During The 800s-1300s AD, Wine Grapes Were Grown At Latitudes Where Polar Bears Now Roam

Here is aother website querying these northern vineyards, but then possibly accepting their existence.

• Link

Perhaps, part of the reason the PTB want people to keep away from the north of Greenland is the secret missile bases that the US have built there over the years. Started in 1960 codenamed Project Iceworm.

 

[KD Archive]

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What did they consider prehistoric in 1880-1899? Today prehistoric means:

• Human prehistory is the period between the use of the first stone tools by hominins c. 3.3 million years ago and the invention of writing systems.

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Qaqortoq, formerly Julianehåb, is a town in in southern Greenland, located near Cape Thorvaldsen. With a population of 3,050 in 2020, it is the most populous town in southern Greenland and the fourth-largest town on the island.

• The present-day town was founded in 1775 by the Dano-Norwegian trader Anders Olsen, on behalf of the General Trading Company. The town was christened Julianehaab after the Danish queen Juliane Marie, although it sometimes mistakenly appears as "Julianshaab". The name was also sometimes anglicized as Juliana's Hope. The town became a major center for the saddle-back seal trade and today remains the home of the Great Greenland sealskin tannery.