SH Archive Is "Flat Earth" a PsyOp?

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Basically modern people don’t have boundaries, they don’t have tribes, they’re unstable social environment, extreme isolation and finacialised relationships, dependence on strangers (corporations) for everything have created an existential trauma and their identity cannot form properly, the psychological structure of their h7man psyche is in turmoil. This is what oligarchies produce. Now its a scale and some people can function, some cannot and many need stimulants i.e. drugs, consumeristic content etc. to stabilise their identity.
Great post, thanks.

I slightly disagree with the idea that "modern people don’t have boundaries, they don’t have tribes". No tribes would be fine, imo.. but what people actually have is 'crap tribes', lol. Examples of crap tribes are things like democrats/conservatives supporters, statists, sportsball fans, profession tribes (eg doctors, police) - any collectivising idea. These collectives are then managed and directed to create benefit for someone, imo.

The original, archetypal tribe seems like it would be more faithful to the reality we experience (as opposed to the current crap tribes that are co-opted to manipulate).. but even those 'rainforest tribes' would be a constraint to the free-thinking individual. As far as I can tell, individuation may be the best target in trying to align oneself with truth.
 
Great post, thanks.

I slightly disagree with the idea that "modern people don’t have boundaries, they don’t have tribes". No tribes would be fine, imo.. but what people actually have is 'crap tribes', lol. Examples of crap tribes are things like democrats/conservatives supporters, statists, sportsball fans, profession tribes (eg doctors, police) - any collectivising idea. These collectives are then managed and directed to create benefit for someone, imo.

The original, archetypal tribe seems like it would be more faithful to the reality we experience (as opposed to the current crap tribes that are co-opted to manipulate).. but even those 'rainforest tribes' would be a constraint to the free-thinking individual. As far as I can tell, individuation may be the best target in trying to align oneself with truth.
Yes, I see to individuate is to set off on the path to enlightenment so to speak but what modern western spiritual seekers have failed to realise is we need a stable community bedded in the earth from which to mature us and feed us on a our journey. The Tibetan monks rely heavily on the local farmers for sustenance and in return they offer council on the psychological complexities that common folk generally don’t know much about.

The tribe I feel is crucial is the stable community of commoners, bound by blood and belief, that passes on the knowledge of farming, milking, blacksmithing and storytelling etc. And the reason for this is how the human identity forms and concretizes during childhood, it reflects off of it’s familiar surroundings, elders, siblings, younglings and the most important factor is to feel safe. No child biological feels safe going to sleep isolated in a house surrounded by foreign neighbours they don’t know, stangers on the street, strangers on the tv thats just cortisol all night long. Physically human children should grow up sleeping surrounded by brothers, uncles, grandparents and their village filled with people they have a strong connection to.

My theory is that now-a-days most humans, especially in individualised societies, grow up biologically traumatised. The evidence is abundant and it’s Very difficult to undo and it leaves many with unstable identities and weak foundations upon which they place their fervent beliefs in ‘Science’.
 
I don't really disagree... I do think people are traumatised (biologically, psychologically). But, I'm afraid, the inclination to seek support and solace from the wider group is also something that is weaponised and will not yield useful answers. Imo. Perhaps, in civilised countries, people trauma bond with authority figures that do not have their best interests at heart eg a child separated from its (working) parents bonds somewhat with its teachers etc who do what they can... Like I said, the traditional tribe may well be better compared to that.

But, in the modern world, neither (traditional tribe or 'civilised, tribe simulation') are acceptable options to me. Even if you think you know how tribes used to work (and I don't), you can't go back in time. Modern life does not require depency on local subsistence farmers. So, for the individual, what are the options? I made my suggestion, but what do you think? Perhaps artificial, self-selecting tribes are the answer? I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
 
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If one is an open minded individual who questions every societal foundation, trying to fit into whatever is the social norm will never work, period.

What i have experience with is small groups (let's say 1000 individuals) where the people can get to know each other profoundly. In this scenario, some incredible bonds are formed, and each individual can contribute to the overall function of the group

One easy example is this forum, we may not agree 100% with each other on every small detail of our stolen past but we agree with the overall premise of mostly, if not everything, we're told is a sick damn lie
 
I researched a lot.
My conclusions are, i dont know what shape the earth is and i dont know which theory is a psyop or whatever.

But one thing i know for sure.
Something is very very wrong here.

Someone is trying to decive me.
I dont know the reason and i dont know who he/she/they is/are.

But they put a lot of energy in it.
I dont know why they fear me so much. But it seems i have something they want from me and it is worth all the energy they put in their deception.

I have time. I will find out.

The good thing is. I am not alone.
Many people are awake to this. And they all search.

It doesent matter in which kind of model each one of us believes.

A believe is nothing.

What matters is that everyone of us is searching.
So the truth will come through faster.
 
The idea of a flat earth is used today to portray people who think critically or who critically question the world view as stupid. I've noticed that when I mention not believing in the spherical earth on social media, I'm immediately labeled a flat earther, even though that's not true. I'm also immediately called a flat-earther when I say something critical of the government. Now it is actually the case that many critical-thinking people are led to believe in a flat earth because a world elite probably wants to lead critical-thinking people on the wrong track or distract themselves from it to deal with the topic of what shape the earth has or what it actually is.
This strategy also immediately causes people who believe in a spherical earth to ignore people who claim not to believe in a spherical earth, because the spherical earthers immediately believe that it is flat earthers that they have to talk to. This immediately blocks communication with critical-thinking people.
 
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