That's right. I believe that their narcissism reached such a high level that it blinded them and put in place a plan full of flaws and underestimated mankind. In the end, the pandemic was the best thing that happened.
Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America
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lol wow I don't know what that is, but it made me laugh for a good while.
I'm okay with you laughing about the information in my post. It's good for your health to "laugh for a good while." But I would benefit from understanding WHY you found it so funny. The information I presented is based on historical documents and modern actions. I believe I was clear about the speculation parts, but perhaps I need to Edit the post and italicize the couple of comments that are speculative. The overwhelming majority is factual, or the closest we can get to that in today's world.
You have shown by your writings that you understand that crypto-Jews exist. You said:
After the Reset Event, the New World Order was established in what we call 1800. Controlled by Roman Church, the royals and the “elite”. By hiding who they are, the so-called “chosen people” was integrant of the “elite”.
So why wouldn't there be crypto-Jews infiltrating the leadership of Native tribes?
After the Reset Event, the New World Order was established in what we call 1800. Controlled by Roman Church, the royals and the “elite”. By hiding who they are, the so-called “chosen people” was integrant of the “elite”.
So why wouldn't there be crypto-Jews infiltrating the leadership of Native tribes?
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A quick reply. I stumbled across a very well-researched website a few years ago that dug into Sequoyah's genealogy and showed that he was indeed a Sephardic Jew. I'll try to find the reference but these websites often just vanish.
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In the early 19th century a discourse concerning the discovery of the "lost tribes" in the Americas was having influence. (Mormonism did not emerge in a vacuum).
Whether or not the ethnology of the times is accurate or a product of fantasies of the "Other" is an open question. In any case, books like
The Ten Tribes of Israel Historically Identified with the Aborigines of the Western Hemisphere (1836) were in circulation.
Whether or not the ethnology of the times is accurate or a product of fantasies of the "Other" is an open question. In any case, books like
The Ten Tribes of Israel Historically Identified with the Aborigines of the Western Hemisphere (1836) were in circulation.
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What did you find as evidence for that? I also read that in one of Fomenko's books but he doesn't explain anything further. I'm not Russian but I studied Russian and "inde" doesn't sound anything like a Russian word. To me, the official explanation that claims that "inde" comes from Latin, from "in" (there) + "de" (from there), meaning "native, originated there" makes more sense, and the word also sounds more Latin.
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You claim this to be a fact? There's no evidence for it.
Sorry, this is some dances-with-wolves type of fantasy. Provide evidence.
Quite misleading.
His name was Malatchi. TCH as in Charlie, sounds perfectly native, not KH like the Jewish name Malakhi which is also pronounced differently. There's no source acknowledging "Sephardic Jewish ancestry". Bemarin isn't a Jewish name either. You could claim that's how natives pronounced Malakhi, but I bet you haven't checked if Malatchi is an actual Cherokee name.
Provide evidence.
Provide evidence.
Once you provide evidence that the above isn't completely made up then we can proceed to theorize about secret networks of Chieftain Rabbis scheming the bison hunt.
They also learned to use rifles, does that make them European?
Weak arguement and logic. All of the points are perfectly executable by non-Jews in Europe and the tribes had some 200+ years of living amongst them before replicating those actions.
When it comes to lawsuits, they most likely just hired external advocates.
You're basically saying they were savages incapable of creating concepts like an alphabet, and thereforeMUST have had Jews "infiltrate" them, otherwise there's no way they could replicate the high culture of the settlers.
Based on two chiefs allegedly being Jewish with no evidence for it.
Here's the answer: they are not and never were.
You have created (or copied) a made up fantasy about Cherokee Jews and inflicted it on the idea that certain Native groups outmaneuvered their fate better than others in order to loop it back to "Jewish control". This type of flawed arguementation is probably more suitable for social media.
Your story is flawed from the beginning, thinking that Jews "ended up" (as in refugees?) in Native land and "were allowed in" (as in taken for shelter?), but the rather few Sephardic Jews who went to America during the inquisition were converts who became legalized in the Spanish Empire and therefore were allowed to travel, enter and reside in Spanish territory. They didn't need to be "taken in", as they could perfectly reside in established European settlements, where the Inquisition didn't really bother whether they practice Judaism or not.
It is proven by simple facts. If the supposed Jews travelled around inquisition time, they had to be converts to access ports and sea travel. If they were not converts, then they already first settled outside of Iberia and were no longer legally persecuted, therefore this story of converts taken in by the Chief, marrying his beautiful daughter and teaching the barbarians how to sue someone in court, sounds like a 4.0 IMdb movie idea.
It doesn't make your story impossible, but you have not provided any evidence for it.
I don't blame you though, almost nobody has provided evidence to anything on stolenhistory since 2023 or so, it is now a big diary of speculations.
Because it is fake. What makes me laugh is to see the enormous amount of lies, childish level lies + a completely disconnected from the real world. And it's all wrapped up in such narcissism that it becomes comical.
- 1492 King and Queen of Spain (Corona di Castiglia) issued the Alhambra Decree, ordering the expulsion of all Jews from their kingdoms. It is considered the annus mirabilis (that means "marvelous year", "wonderful year", or "miraculous year".) of the history of Spain. Four years late 1496, King Manuel I of Portugal signed the decree of expulsion of Jews and Muslims. They didn't "left Europe"
- North Carolina first known Permanent European Settlement was in 1648. Even if they were in this first settlement, what the gap of 156 year? They were walking/swimming from Spain to there??
- Were there kingdoms in North America? Kingdom of natives? Apolache that was the extinct tribe 18th century? Sorry, extinct Kingdom? 156 years late when they get there where the jew learned to speak Apolache? And this very generous king let a bunch of strangers who he doesn't even understand them just let them live in his kingdom? And he not only gives them free land, but he also went beyond and gave a mountain that contained (he already knew it had) gold, silver and gems?... I cold go on and on, but I think I made my point here.
- "after a couple of generations: the King was half Jew and half French Protestant... (aka Jew), In other words They get rid of Appalachian blood. But keeping the title of king and all the assets.
- Elite Natives – absolute hilarious to me on its own. The additional information needs a correction even though it's a fake story. They will not have European blood, it has blood from North Africa or Middle East. I would say the correct is Assyrian blood. When an Assyrian born in France don't make him a european or french. The Make a citizen of a corporation call government, French citizen and European citizen.
This fake story is so bad narrative that don’t need spend time, but if there is someone out there who is picky like me, here is real information about this relationship between Jews and Native America:
- Jew started moving at Americans, in the 1850s, the earliest, from Germany, around 1870/1880 to the mid-1920's, the size of the jew increased rapidly, from less than a quarter of a million to an estimated 4.2 million (elegies). The increase was primarily the consequence of the heavy immigration of East European Jews between 1870 and 1924.
- It was at this same time they saw opportunity and many move to areas Native live. It is a common practice and continues to be theirs to change their name when they arrive in the country and make up stories about their origin.
- Jews made false claim to be Native American. The reason? Huge opportunity grab land and have extras rights.
- The Native American was an easy target, easy to deal with a group that is practically ignorant of even the basics of society.
- Jew is behind all the political movements, it would be no different with Indian Civil Rights.
- The appropriation of land by "natives" is a big concern throughout the world and is controlled by NGOs in an exploitative system.
- The population of Indian America North Caroline 1880 was very small, 1000 people and very small in total 200.000 and the jew 1,058,000.
- Natives get special rights and treatment as the jew, and a regular people don’t, and they are under the same society and live in the same land/country. Who give them make you pay the cost of these special rights and treatment. And run a continues psychological operation campaign make you (regular people) believe it is right, you must accept as right thing to do, and if you even question about is a shame, make you a horrible man.
I just want to point out something:
Isn't it strange and fascinating at the very least that Native Americans appear in the Gambling industry and financial services market?
They give us the fairy tale that Native Americans are people who lived in tents with no technology and no western European academic education, who only obtained civil rights in 1968, the last thing you expect is that they would go straight to gambling and money.
The situation becomes completely insane when Native Americans are the most impoverished of all ethnic groups and only 1% of Native Americans own and operate a business. High criminality 225 gangs, gangs with 5,000 members on 1 reservation alone.
You are telling me that this group of American people who have the same rights as a regular American plus extra rights +pay less tax +extra Federal Government $1 billion + 326 territories that only they can enter and enjoy + 573 tribal sovereignty, total 56,200,000 acres + gambling busyness with a total annual revenue of $27 billion.
I don't need to research. Conclusion:
Every single time
ps.: just to clarify I'm talking about what is written. I'm not talking about you person. I always replay and comment about the written text, even if what I say directly reflects on the person who wrote it: "this is to deceive" or "narcissist", etc. I continue talking about the text.
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"In all likelihood, Sequoyah was half-Jewish, one-quarter Creek or other Indian, and one-quarter black. Only through a blunder of history is he celebrated as a Cherokee hero. His mother was a half-breed trading post operator from outside Cherokee territory, and his father was Nathaniel Gist, a Jewish trader.[xiv] The Gists family appears in Malcolm Stern’s definitive roister Americans of Jewish Descent.[xv] A cousin of Sequoyah’s father was the Virginian Samuel Gist, partner of George Washington. Samuel Gist became one of the first admiralty insurance brokers in London, lived for nearly a hundred years, helped start Lloyd’s Bank of London and owned the first stud racehorse to come to America, an “Arabian Turk.” In The Fabulous History of the Dismal Swamp Company, Gist is explicitly called “an old Jew” by his son-in-law, John Anderson.[xvi] As for Sequoyah’s mother, Wootah or Wutah, that is a West African word for a witch, Gully or Geechee, according to Richard Thornton. It was quite common for Indian traders like Nathaniel Gist to use Mustee slaves to manage their factor houses in the uplands of the Southeast. Mustee is a term in the Lower Southeast for a person of mixed African-Native American ancestry. The Creeks derived the term from the Spanish word mestizo."
From the following source: Cherokee Had Orthodox Jewish Beards Until about 1750
I'll simply share the article (lots of interesting stuff on this website) and invite those more knowledgeable than I to determine if the information presented there is reliable or not.
From the following source: Cherokee Had Orthodox Jewish Beards Until about 1750
I'll simply share the article (lots of interesting stuff on this website) and invite those more knowledgeable than I to determine if the information presented there is reliable or not.
More knowledge in Fantasy?
Tell me how you can say someone is half of A and half B? Or 100% C?
Jew mix with black? Come on people, let add something with value to the thread.
The monetary system and Catholic Church are the same thing created at the same time. America with its Ponzi economy only makes sense if the Pope owns everything in it, including the Americans. The purpose of "recessions" and "wars" was to make heretics bankrupt and exterminate their bloodlines. I assume all drafts were nonrandom, selecting only peoples and religions who threatened the NWO, like the Amish, Orthodox Jews, Buddhists, libertarians, etc.
Just a quick response for now. Waiting on my hard copy of the English translation of the French book that contains much of the information that is being questioned. I will post an update in a couple weeks to satisfy the scoffers. 
It suprises me that a couple of you are so closed minded. This whole site is about finding the true history that has been hidden and destroyed. But somehow you think the stories the British victors tell about colonial America are correct? That's a bit foolish. Before the British there were Vikings, Welsh, Portuguese, Spanish and French settlers/invaders. The Spanish and the French wrote narratives of their travels and created a lot of maps. But these are not utilized by the English speaking historians on the victorious British side because the originals don't fit the narrative they winners want to put forth.
I thought you all understood this by even being on this site. History is completely manipulated by the winners, and they make it really hard to prove it otherwise. Open your minds...
It suprises me that a couple of you are so closed minded. This whole site is about finding the true history that has been hidden and destroyed. But somehow you think the stories the British victors tell about colonial America are correct? That's a bit foolish. Before the British there were Vikings, Welsh, Portuguese, Spanish and French settlers/invaders. The Spanish and the French wrote narratives of their travels and created a lot of maps. But these are not utilized by the English speaking historians on the victorious British side because the originals don't fit the narrative they winners want to put forth.
I thought you all understood this by even being on this site. History is completely manipulated by the winners, and they make it really hard to prove it otherwise. Open your minds...
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- The Gospel Jews of the 12th-14th centuries are the royal family of the Empire, to which Christ Himself belonged. The "Jewish conspiracy against Christ" is a conspiracy that matured in the royal family of the Empire of the 12th century, among the relatives of the emperor, against the emperor himself.
- Modern Judaism, according to the New Chronology, is a religious movement that arose much later and traces its origins back to 1492, when the royal family of Christ's relatives (the true ancient "Jews") had long since been pushed aside from the throne and gone to the East. Thus, the same word "Jews" first meant one thing, and then began to mean something completely different
I am constantly wondering how all this fits with the Hanseatic League:
A coin from the realm:
Here's a Jewish source, The Jewish Chronicle, that talks about the Sephardic miners and how they intermarried with Natives.
Big Chief Rabbi: Why Cherokees could be Jewish - The Jewish Chronicle
A couple relevant sections are:
...the Cherokee have had families of Jewish heritage in their midst since before Columbus, and that early Jewish traders married Cherokee women to cement their ties with the tribe...
...throughout the 1600s, Iberian Sephardic Jews and Moorish Conversos colonised the North Carolina and Georgia Mountains, where they mined and worked gold and silver...
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On pages 49-52 of this book, Antiquities of the Southern Indians, Particularly of the Georgia Tribes by Charles Colcock Jones from 1873 , the mining operations are discussed. The Natives tell visitors about the mining and smelting operations and attribute it to Spaniards. But these mining operations already existed before the official Spaniards came looking for gold. Which points to the Spanish speaking Jews that were forced to leave Spain and then Portugal.
Antiquities of the southern Indians, particularly of the Georgia tribes : Jones, Charles Colcock, 1831-1893 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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Here's an article regarding the Kingdom of Apalache:
New Series: Southeastern North America during the Early Colonial Period
By about 1585 Apalache controlled the mountainous areas of both present day Georgia and North Carolina.
Here's mention of the Province of Apalache, who controlled much land, in the Chronicles of Hernando de Soto:
Big Chief Rabbi: Why Cherokees could be Jewish - The Jewish Chronicle
A couple relevant sections are:
...the Cherokee have had families of Jewish heritage in their midst since before Columbus, and that early Jewish traders married Cherokee women to cement their ties with the tribe...
...throughout the 1600s, Iberian Sephardic Jews and Moorish Conversos colonised the North Carolina and Georgia Mountains, where they mined and worked gold and silver...
_______
On pages 49-52 of this book, Antiquities of the Southern Indians, Particularly of the Georgia Tribes by Charles Colcock Jones from 1873 , the mining operations are discussed. The Natives tell visitors about the mining and smelting operations and attribute it to Spaniards. But these mining operations already existed before the official Spaniards came looking for gold. Which points to the Spanish speaking Jews that were forced to leave Spain and then Portugal.
Antiquities of the southern Indians, particularly of the Georgia tribes : Jones, Charles Colcock, 1831-1893 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
_________
Here's an article regarding the Kingdom of Apalache:
New Series: Southeastern North America during the Early Colonial Period
By about 1585 Apalache controlled the mountainous areas of both present day Georgia and North Carolina.
Here's mention of the Province of Apalache, who controlled much land, in the Chronicles of Hernando de Soto:
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I was prompted by the reading of @Frostychud's reply to "The Perpetual Black Cube Thread" and by a question posed to me by a close friend about the neurosis of Woody Allen-- a disgraced but once popular (and Jewish) comic and film maker-- to write my thoughts on AI and the "chosen people."
I wrote the book review as a way to come to terms with my own thoughts, often very similar to those of Frostychud's. I also wrote it for my Evangelical relatives and Jewish friends. I find it ironic, but telling, that Christians tell me, in so many words, that I risk "going to hell." Meanwhile, I've been told flat out that I'm an "anti-Semite" by Jewish friends (sadly, past tense). There is a certain absurdity that is inherent to tribal beliefs; they only make sense if one shares the same assumptions. Anyone who contemplates the empirical remains of the "old world all around us"-- as Bob Dylan (also Jewish) called it-- no doubt, finds it astonishing that most people can't understand what we say or that, if for a moment they grasp it, they manage to cover it up. And that quickly, the insight is gone. Normality returns.
My assumption is that the system is an AI system. It is possibly ancient. Despite the fact that it issues contradictory and often deleterious demands, people will find excuses for it and abide by it. As the movie the The Matrix showed, people ignore it and live on the surface, so to speak. They are sometimes called sheeple due to their indifference and seemingly benign demeanor. Nonetheless, they will rise, like the monstrous Mr. Smith, to defend it-- as seen in reality in 2020. This system programs us. Over the past 500 years or so-- that is as far back as we really have reliable empirical data-- this programming has been affected primarily through the technologies of writing (scripts or scriptures), sound (such as telephones and music), and imagery (paintings, photography, film). (See the work of Friedrich Kitler, aufschreibesysteme). It puts people into types in its system as it produces archetypes for people to recognize themselves through popular media. It is my current hypothesis that this system is represented in "scripture" by the god of the Old Testament. This god has its "chosen people." If the chosen people abide by its dictates, they are rewarded handsomely; if they fail to follow "the laws," they are dealt with harshly or ignored into oblivion. Just as this god promises its chosen people to destroy all their (but actually its) enemies, the system will undermine and destroy its chosen people if they fail to uphold its laws. American Christians are a subset of the chosen people; for they attest to the fact that Jesus does not present a new and radical departure from the dictates of this tyrannical overlord. In fact, they believe that Christ and Yahweh are one-- despite the fact that Jesus condemns this god and its chief minions (see John, 8). Moreover, as Hirschman and Yates show, a vast number of American Christians appear to hail from "the chosen" people. It is truly regrettable and shows the power of the AI.
The system systematizes us at every turn. A person is known by where they reside and work, how much money they earn, the success of their offspring, the clothing they wear, the company they keep. Attempts to "buck the system" have been more or less successfully re-incorporated into it via new archetypes. To wear long hair was a sign of rebellion in men when I was a kid in the 1960s. Now, it means relatively little; for such people have been typed into the system. Take, for example, the counter-culture teacher, parodied in the TV show, Beavis and Butthead. Despite their signals of individuality and freedom, their everyday actions re-inscribe the system; for their students must continue to attend class, graduate, "find their way" in it afterwords, etc. Again, this should not surprise; for if Jesus can be equated with Yahweh, then what have we really become? What paths are truly open to us?
Anyone with "the divine spark" of imagination, creativity, empathy and vision will recognize this dilemma-- some more keenly than others, of course. Nonetheless, my assumption has been that most people, at one point or another, perceive the problem, experience frustration, and realize their "symbolic castration"-- as Jacques Lacan put it. Most tend not to dwell on the problems associated with the system and its dictates. For what does it mean to recognize that one, no matter his or her distinctions and achievements, is nothing but a "sheeple", a cog, a sign on the leader board? Their very being is lost, X'd out, castrated in pursuit of their success. If any thought is put into it beyond this, they will discover that most everything about their lives has been determined by the system and its codes, even in their most intimate lives. For example, nobody really has a mother tongue. We speak the language of our mothers, certainly; but where did they learn this language? We are born free and needy and loving, but in order to survive, we must speak. Languages, like modern English, Hebrew, and Chinese, have clearly demonstrable histories. They were fashioned for us, taught to us. We know precisely when they were reorganized and set upon their speakers in their current forms. (English at the time of Shakespeare, Hebrew in the late 19th century and Chinese in the early 20th). We know that if one traces the origins of these languages back far enough, they signal different orders and beings in the world.
For the thinking individual, the situation produces neurosis. The system has got you, as Devo sang, "jerking back and forth." Of course, the system shows the individual its ways to cope. It produces tranquilizers and therapies and archetypes. Woody Allen, especially in his early films, portrayed the dilemmas and frustrations of the thinking, castrated subject. Others of his chosen tribe have similarly played the role for laughter and reward-- e.g., Jerry Seinfeld. They tell us all what is wrong; but, they have no answers. In real life, they live in luxury for their performances and can indulge in all sorts of degeneracy. But their god, the system, will most likely protect them in ways an ordinary person will never experience. This is certainly a trick played on the audience by their god-- whom is certainly a trickster. For the message to the audience is simple: this is how it is under a tyrannical modality. In the 60s, many saw the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, picked up their guitars and sought "freedom." But they were canned and recorded, contained and produced. The best they could do was copy, paste and rearrange cultural forms as they issued desperate calls for peace and freedom.
Talented people, like Miles Mathis, find doors closed and complain. For they do not belong to the chosen people. After a while, it becomes easy to out the ethnicity of those who run the banks, popular culture industries, corporations, universities, and government. It is an open secret. Did not the current head of the EU recently announce that Europe is a Talmudic state?
KD, who I suspect is a Jewish Russian emigre, once asked "How did they pull it off?" I'm not sure that people are entirely responsible for the emergence of this AI/god. However, I do think it is the duty of people to overthrow it and soon. Those invested most heavily will resist the strongest. Wealthy Christian businessmen are as unlikely as well-situated establishment Jews to do anything about it. It serves them nicely. And yet it doesn't. How much money does one need to cure-- really-- a cancer in the family? Most Jews are in the same boat. Only a very few of the people in the world are slated to survive? 1/14th-- according to the Georgia Guide Stones.
I think the figure of Christ, more or less, shows us the way-- others do as well. It is a way of learning, reflection, engagement, healing and community. But as Christ's life trajectory shows, it is not tolerated by the system. I also think the US Constitution and Bill of Rights shows us how to decentralize power and separate church and state. We must learn the truth of who we are and measure up. Jesus said: "Is it not written, I said, ye are gods?" Ultimately the power is ours.
I wrote the book review as a way to come to terms with my own thoughts, often very similar to those of Frostychud's. I also wrote it for my Evangelical relatives and Jewish friends. I find it ironic, but telling, that Christians tell me, in so many words, that I risk "going to hell." Meanwhile, I've been told flat out that I'm an "anti-Semite" by Jewish friends (sadly, past tense). There is a certain absurdity that is inherent to tribal beliefs; they only make sense if one shares the same assumptions. Anyone who contemplates the empirical remains of the "old world all around us"-- as Bob Dylan (also Jewish) called it-- no doubt, finds it astonishing that most people can't understand what we say or that, if for a moment they grasp it, they manage to cover it up. And that quickly, the insight is gone. Normality returns.
My assumption is that the system is an AI system. It is possibly ancient. Despite the fact that it issues contradictory and often deleterious demands, people will find excuses for it and abide by it. As the movie the The Matrix showed, people ignore it and live on the surface, so to speak. They are sometimes called sheeple due to their indifference and seemingly benign demeanor. Nonetheless, they will rise, like the monstrous Mr. Smith, to defend it-- as seen in reality in 2020. This system programs us. Over the past 500 years or so-- that is as far back as we really have reliable empirical data-- this programming has been affected primarily through the technologies of writing (scripts or scriptures), sound (such as telephones and music), and imagery (paintings, photography, film). (See the work of Friedrich Kitler, aufschreibesysteme). It puts people into types in its system as it produces archetypes for people to recognize themselves through popular media. It is my current hypothesis that this system is represented in "scripture" by the god of the Old Testament. This god has its "chosen people." If the chosen people abide by its dictates, they are rewarded handsomely; if they fail to follow "the laws," they are dealt with harshly or ignored into oblivion. Just as this god promises its chosen people to destroy all their (but actually its) enemies, the system will undermine and destroy its chosen people if they fail to uphold its laws. American Christians are a subset of the chosen people; for they attest to the fact that Jesus does not present a new and radical departure from the dictates of this tyrannical overlord. In fact, they believe that Christ and Yahweh are one-- despite the fact that Jesus condemns this god and its chief minions (see John, 8). Moreover, as Hirschman and Yates show, a vast number of American Christians appear to hail from "the chosen" people. It is truly regrettable and shows the power of the AI.
The system systematizes us at every turn. A person is known by where they reside and work, how much money they earn, the success of their offspring, the clothing they wear, the company they keep. Attempts to "buck the system" have been more or less successfully re-incorporated into it via new archetypes. To wear long hair was a sign of rebellion in men when I was a kid in the 1960s. Now, it means relatively little; for such people have been typed into the system. Take, for example, the counter-culture teacher, parodied in the TV show, Beavis and Butthead. Despite their signals of individuality and freedom, their everyday actions re-inscribe the system; for their students must continue to attend class, graduate, "find their way" in it afterwords, etc. Again, this should not surprise; for if Jesus can be equated with Yahweh, then what have we really become? What paths are truly open to us?
Anyone with "the divine spark" of imagination, creativity, empathy and vision will recognize this dilemma-- some more keenly than others, of course. Nonetheless, my assumption has been that most people, at one point or another, perceive the problem, experience frustration, and realize their "symbolic castration"-- as Jacques Lacan put it. Most tend not to dwell on the problems associated with the system and its dictates. For what does it mean to recognize that one, no matter his or her distinctions and achievements, is nothing but a "sheeple", a cog, a sign on the leader board? Their very being is lost, X'd out, castrated in pursuit of their success. If any thought is put into it beyond this, they will discover that most everything about their lives has been determined by the system and its codes, even in their most intimate lives. For example, nobody really has a mother tongue. We speak the language of our mothers, certainly; but where did they learn this language? We are born free and needy and loving, but in order to survive, we must speak. Languages, like modern English, Hebrew, and Chinese, have clearly demonstrable histories. They were fashioned for us, taught to us. We know precisely when they were reorganized and set upon their speakers in their current forms. (English at the time of Shakespeare, Hebrew in the late 19th century and Chinese in the early 20th). We know that if one traces the origins of these languages back far enough, they signal different orders and beings in the world.
For the thinking individual, the situation produces neurosis. The system has got you, as Devo sang, "jerking back and forth." Of course, the system shows the individual its ways to cope. It produces tranquilizers and therapies and archetypes. Woody Allen, especially in his early films, portrayed the dilemmas and frustrations of the thinking, castrated subject. Others of his chosen tribe have similarly played the role for laughter and reward-- e.g., Jerry Seinfeld. They tell us all what is wrong; but, they have no answers. In real life, they live in luxury for their performances and can indulge in all sorts of degeneracy. But their god, the system, will most likely protect them in ways an ordinary person will never experience. This is certainly a trick played on the audience by their god-- whom is certainly a trickster. For the message to the audience is simple: this is how it is under a tyrannical modality. In the 60s, many saw the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, picked up their guitars and sought "freedom." But they were canned and recorded, contained and produced. The best they could do was copy, paste and rearrange cultural forms as they issued desperate calls for peace and freedom.
Talented people, like Miles Mathis, find doors closed and complain. For they do not belong to the chosen people. After a while, it becomes easy to out the ethnicity of those who run the banks, popular culture industries, corporations, universities, and government. It is an open secret. Did not the current head of the EU recently announce that Europe is a Talmudic state?
KD, who I suspect is a Jewish Russian emigre, once asked "How did they pull it off?" I'm not sure that people are entirely responsible for the emergence of this AI/god. However, I do think it is the duty of people to overthrow it and soon. Those invested most heavily will resist the strongest. Wealthy Christian businessmen are as unlikely as well-situated establishment Jews to do anything about it. It serves them nicely. And yet it doesn't. How much money does one need to cure-- really-- a cancer in the family? Most Jews are in the same boat. Only a very few of the people in the world are slated to survive? 1/14th-- according to the Georgia Guide Stones.
I think the figure of Christ, more or less, shows us the way-- others do as well. It is a way of learning, reflection, engagement, healing and community. But as Christ's life trajectory shows, it is not tolerated by the system. I also think the US Constitution and Bill of Rights shows us how to decentralize power and separate church and state. We must learn the truth of who we are and measure up. Jesus said: "Is it not written, I said, ye are gods?" Ultimately the power is ours.
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First off, great post SonofaBor.
But specifically, my take on this AI is that it is simply a tool that is being used by people. Not any sort of rogue entity unto itself. AI is the scary hologramy wizard, but it's just a projected persona of the little man pulling levers when Toto exposes him for his deception.
Edit - this also makes me think of this ridiculous cultural norm that has been injected into US culture in the last whatever, 10 or 15 years, of saying 'thank you for your service' to current or former military.
It makes me exceptionally angry. They really are f*cking pigs. Excuse my language. No more spitting on returning baby killers, no more demand for accountability, no more opposition to war. Every brainless amoral asshole who puts on a uniform is a hero.
How did they pull it off? I agree with your thoughts on the vectors the AI uses; images, words, sounds. All of these things are focused and bundled in our technology. I think that's an important point; an AI is useless without a means of interfacing with it. However, we need to remember that for most of our history that we know of, the means of interfacing were very limited. So ultimately, it was people doing the nefarious stuff.
Edit -sorry for off topic
I also think it's an AI system. But I suspect that it isn't quite what we think. To sort of portray it as a god that issues demands etc is probably much more black and white than the reality. I agree that people will defend it despite the obvious mixed messages it is responsible for. But, I also think that the nefarious 'they' who run the show have spent a lot of time and effort priming us to accept the bullshit, till we are too weak and broken to do anything about it.
But specifically, my take on this AI is that it is simply a tool that is being used by people. Not any sort of rogue entity unto itself. AI is the scary hologramy wizard, but it's just a projected persona of the little man pulling levers when Toto exposes him for his deception.
It does program us, but that programming becomes far less effective when we recognize it. I think don Juan works here - the flyers that occupy and influence our minds are one and the same as that 'programming'...which is really only hypnotic suggestions in the first place. They flee in the silence of a quiet mind.
Absolutely. It's a neat feature, and smart, to neutralize threats by essentially coopting them. Ice Cube who was in NWA, and who said f*ck the police, has an office in Beverly hills.
Edit - this also makes me think of this ridiculous cultural norm that has been injected into US culture in the last whatever, 10 or 15 years, of saying 'thank you for your service' to current or former military.
It makes me exceptionally angry. They really are f*cking pigs. Excuse my language. No more spitting on returning baby killers, no more demand for accountability, no more opposition to war. Every brainless amoral asshole who puts on a uniform is a hero.
That's great, I thought he was a retired blue collar dude from the Midwest.
How did they pull it off? I agree with your thoughts on the vectors the AI uses; images, words, sounds. All of these things are focused and bundled in our technology. I think that's an important point; an AI is useless without a means of interfacing with it. However, we need to remember that for most of our history that we know of, the means of interfacing were very limited. So ultimately, it was people doing the nefarious stuff.
Again, great post SonofaBor, thx for this
Edit -sorry for off topic
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I totally agree with this post Gladius, except the last part. Not to argue or fight, not interested, but for me, what I see here at SH mirrors the larger world; we are seeing the lies more clearly than ever. With that comes questioning every single thing we thought was true. In a nutshell, actual proof is surprisingly scarce about anything. Re your criticisms in this post, absolutely. Totally fair. That's all.
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About 30 years ago, there was a little known group of people that gained national attention in the USA called the Melungians. They are a mix of European, African and Native American. The research that came out at that time focused on a particular group that had crossed over the Appalachian Mountains from the Eastern side to the Western side in the 1700's. They ended up in Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Alabama, and West Virginia. They have been a longtime regionally known minority that was looked down upon by their neighbors because of their mixed blood. They claimed to be Portuguese in order to receive legal status as White whenever necessary. But mostly they have remained isolated in the mountains and hollers to avoid racist assholes discriminating against them. The name Melungian may come from melange, meaning mixed.
An American named N. Brent Kennedy is the one who wrote the book about Melungians that got them noticed. Kennedy had been chronically ill and finally discovered that he had a rare genetic disease commonly carried by Sephardic Jews, called Mediterranean Familial Fever. He started looking into his own DNA and family history and found that he was of Melungian descent. This was where his Sephardic Jewish DNA came from.
The Melungians are considered a "tri-racial isolate" group - mixed European, African and Native American ancestry.
The term Melungian has become a common term to refer to all tri-racial isolate groups in the United States. Other tri-racial isolate groups that have been brought into the public eye include the Redbones, the Lumbee/Croatan, the Carmel Tribe, the We-Sorts, the Guinea, the Turks, the Portuguese, the Nanticoke-Moors, the Brass Ankles, the Black Dutch, and the Brown People of Kentucky. The well known Creole of Louisiana are also a tri-racial isolate.
The understanding of how tri-racial isolates started is that European settlers/indentured servants married Native women, then free Blacks or escaped slaves joined them and they all mixed. These groups generally lived on the frontiers of "civilized society" away from the area run by the Whites, as they were able to live more freely and avoid discrimination because of their darker skin. They married within their greater community or traveled to find a spouse from one of the other mixed communities. Or just moved further West and married more Natives.
Tri
In appearance tri-racial isolates are brown skinned people with dark or auburn hair, features more European than African, and more blue and green eyes than expected in a brown skinned people. The Melungians that the book was written about have European ancestry based around the Mediterranean and near East. Some other tri-racial isolates have European branches from different geographic locations such as France, the British Isles, Dutch, Spanish, etc.
Who are the Melungeon people today? - Geographic Pedia
Melungians have both male and female DNA markers for a combination of the following groups:
● Sephardic Jew
● Black Moor/Berber/North African
● Portuguese
● Spanish
● French
● Turkish
● Cherokee or other Native tribe.
This group have only 5% Native blood on average. On the surface they are mostly Christians. They may practice remnants of Jewish or Muslim customs depending on the household. These customs may include not eating pork, prayers or candle lighting at particular times or days, special dinners on Friday, staying inside on Saturday, and/or separate sinks for dairy and meat. All the while professing Christian religions and going to church on Sundays.
The Turkish and Moorish/North African blood is said to come from a group of captured Ottoman soldiers that Sir Francis Drake freed from the Spanish when he sacked Cartegena, Columbia, in 1585. He left this group on Roanoke Island, North Carolina, in 1586, to be laborers for the Roanoke colony. The entire colony was gone by the next time an English ship came by. The only clue to their whereabouts was "CROATAN" carved in a tree. It is thought that the colonists joined the Croatan tribe (now Lumbee) and contributed the first influx of European blood to that tri-racial isolate.
The Melungeons: Turks of Appalachia? - Türkiye Today
However, the freed Ottoman Turkish and North African slaves seemed to have headed further west. They would have learned to speak some Spanish and Portuguese as slaves in Cartegena, so may have heard about the gold, silver and gems being mined in the mountains of the Apalache. Also, having been already enslaved once, I believe they would want to get away from the coast where the Spanish were capturing Natives as slaves wherever they could. The Spanish were not allowed in the Kingdom of Apalache because of their brutal ways and enslavement of others. But the freed Ottoman slaves would have been welcomed and offered Native wives. They would have moved into the areas where the Sephardic Jewish Refugees from Spain, Portugal and (later) South America had been chased by the Inquisition. And a tri-racial isolate group was formed, which had to move West over the mountains as the White European settlers took their land.
Also, many of the Sephardic Jews that left Spain and Portugal due to the Inquisition had previouly migrated to Northern Africa and to the Ottoman Empire. It is entirely likely that many of the freed Ottoman slaves dropped at Roanoke were Sephardic Jews already. I think the Spanish would have enjoyed enslaving them as prisoners of war. These individuals would already speak Ladino and either Spanish or Portuguese. They definitely would have become aware of a Jewish refuge in the gold filled mountains of Apalache. They may have even paid or negotiated with Sir Francis Drake, a knownpirate privateer, to take them there. (Ladino is the Sephardic blend of Spanish and Hebrew. The Ashkenazi version is called Yiddish and is a blend of Germanic languages and Hebrew.)
History Of The Melungeons: The Forgotten Tribe Of Appalachia
An American named N. Brent Kennedy is the one who wrote the book about Melungians that got them noticed. Kennedy had been chronically ill and finally discovered that he had a rare genetic disease commonly carried by Sephardic Jews, called Mediterranean Familial Fever. He started looking into his own DNA and family history and found that he was of Melungian descent. This was where his Sephardic Jewish DNA came from.
The Melungians are considered a "tri-racial isolate" group - mixed European, African and Native American ancestry.
The term Melungian has become a common term to refer to all tri-racial isolate groups in the United States. Other tri-racial isolate groups that have been brought into the public eye include the Redbones, the Lumbee/Croatan, the Carmel Tribe, the We-Sorts, the Guinea, the Turks, the Portuguese, the Nanticoke-Moors, the Brass Ankles, the Black Dutch, and the Brown People of Kentucky. The well known Creole of Louisiana are also a tri-racial isolate.
The understanding of how tri-racial isolates started is that European settlers/indentured servants married Native women, then free Blacks or escaped slaves joined them and they all mixed. These groups generally lived on the frontiers of "civilized society" away from the area run by the Whites, as they were able to live more freely and avoid discrimination because of their darker skin. They married within their greater community or traveled to find a spouse from one of the other mixed communities. Or just moved further West and married more Natives.
Tri
In appearance tri-racial isolates are brown skinned people with dark or auburn hair, features more European than African, and more blue and green eyes than expected in a brown skinned people. The Melungians that the book was written about have European ancestry based around the Mediterranean and near East. Some other tri-racial isolates have European branches from different geographic locations such as France, the British Isles, Dutch, Spanish, etc.
Who are the Melungeon people today? - Geographic Pedia
Melungians have both male and female DNA markers for a combination of the following groups:
● Sephardic Jew
● Black Moor/Berber/North African
● Portuguese
● Spanish
● French
● Turkish
● Cherokee or other Native tribe.
This group have only 5% Native blood on average. On the surface they are mostly Christians. They may practice remnants of Jewish or Muslim customs depending on the household. These customs may include not eating pork, prayers or candle lighting at particular times or days, special dinners on Friday, staying inside on Saturday, and/or separate sinks for dairy and meat. All the while professing Christian religions and going to church on Sundays.
The Turkish and Moorish/North African blood is said to come from a group of captured Ottoman soldiers that Sir Francis Drake freed from the Spanish when he sacked Cartegena, Columbia, in 1585. He left this group on Roanoke Island, North Carolina, in 1586, to be laborers for the Roanoke colony. The entire colony was gone by the next time an English ship came by. The only clue to their whereabouts was "CROATAN" carved in a tree. It is thought that the colonists joined the Croatan tribe (now Lumbee) and contributed the first influx of European blood to that tri-racial isolate.
The Melungeons: Turks of Appalachia? - Türkiye Today
However, the freed Ottoman Turkish and North African slaves seemed to have headed further west. They would have learned to speak some Spanish and Portuguese as slaves in Cartegena, so may have heard about the gold, silver and gems being mined in the mountains of the Apalache. Also, having been already enslaved once, I believe they would want to get away from the coast where the Spanish were capturing Natives as slaves wherever they could. The Spanish were not allowed in the Kingdom of Apalache because of their brutal ways and enslavement of others. But the freed Ottoman slaves would have been welcomed and offered Native wives. They would have moved into the areas where the Sephardic Jewish Refugees from Spain, Portugal and (later) South America had been chased by the Inquisition. And a tri-racial isolate group was formed, which had to move West over the mountains as the White European settlers took their land.
Also, many of the Sephardic Jews that left Spain and Portugal due to the Inquisition had previouly migrated to Northern Africa and to the Ottoman Empire. It is entirely likely that many of the freed Ottoman slaves dropped at Roanoke were Sephardic Jews already. I think the Spanish would have enjoyed enslaving them as prisoners of war. These individuals would already speak Ladino and either Spanish or Portuguese. They definitely would have become aware of a Jewish refuge in the gold filled mountains of Apalache. They may have even paid or negotiated with Sir Francis Drake, a known
History Of The Melungeons: The Forgotten Tribe Of Appalachia
I've caught some flack on this thread for bringing up the idea of Jews becoming Cherokees and other Natives. I want to clarify that the author of the book that this thread is about, Donald Yates, is of Cherokee descent, and ran into his unknown Sephardic Jewish heritage because of getting his DNA tested.
SonofaBor made it clear that the book was about immigrants that hid their heritage, whether Jewish or Moorish.
And that these people ended up influencing and/or controlling important aspects of our society and economics. So let's keep digging into people with secrets that influenced early American society. They just might be of Jewish or Muslim heritage.
When Spain and Portugal forced conversion to Catholicism, it applied to Jews AND Muslims. The Conversos that were discriminated against if they stayed in Spain and Portugal were ex-Jews and ex-Muslims. The Conversos that fled to other countries and the New World had been Jews and Muslims. There were both Crypto Jews and Crypto Muslims that practiced their true religions in secret while pretending to be Catholic or Christian.
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SonofaBor mentions Freemasonry as being one of the tools used by the Jews to shape and control society and economy. If anyone disagrees, please follow the links in this action packed post:
Post in thread 'Freemasons as Parasites Freemasons as Parasites
So the Crypto Jews and Conversos may have founded Freemasonry...This ends up making more sense than Christians founding it. There are multiple insults to Christ within the Freemason rites that the public is aware of. And a focus on Eastern mysticism that is not generally present in Christianity.
As the New World was settled, the Freemasons "built" (were given) one of the best buildings in each new town. There was also an upstart branch of Freemasonry for Black folks called Prince Hall Freemasonry started in 1784. They were begrudgingly given some moderate sized preexisting buildings. The Shriners were developed as a branch of the Freemasons in 1872, with the last push of settlement westward. They were given the nicest Moorish style building in each town. They were too late to get good buildings on the East coast, but got some really outstanding Moorish temples and auditoriums in the Midwest and West!
Here is a detailed post I wrote regarding the branches of Freemasonry:
Post in thread 'Tartar Templar Mormon Lies' Tartar Templar Mormon Lies
Do these subdivisions of Freemasonry match up with the immigration patterns I have been discussing on this thread?
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Here's an interesting phenomenon that came up in my research on Melungians. A lot of Mormons/Latter Day Saints are discovering that they have Sephardic Jewish ancestors. Mormons/LDS are VERY interested in their genealogy and even keep the records in a bomb proof mountain. They believe they are able to ensure their ancestors a place in heaven by baptizing them into their church post-mortem. So they want to hunt down every ancestor and perform a baptism in their names.
There are many cases of LDS members with mystery illnesses such as Familial Mediterranean Fever that end up being Mediterranean based. With correct diagnoses they can finally get proper treatment. But they can't figure out where the DNA came from. They look back in their genealogies and find their relatives came from England or Holland in the 1500s-1600s, who have names that aren't Jewish.
Upon digging deeper the Saints are finding that these ancestors were Separdic Jews and Conversos who escaped Spain and Portugal and took refuge in the Northern European countries. They changed their names to fit into the Northern European societies. Some were Conversos who had truly converted to Catholicism, but may have retained some elements of Judaic practices and customs in their home life. Some pretended they were Christians after the move North to avoid discrimination, but practiced full Judaism at home in secret. These became known as Crypto Jews.
{ As an aside, the Protestant Reformation may have been brought on by Jewish thinking and influence. They also ran printing presses and were able to publish the Bible in various languages, once translated from Latin. This supported a key tenant of Protestantism, to allow regular people to read the Bible themselves. }
These Conversos and Crypto Jews were still not considered equal in Northern European society. Even with the new names and new religions. So, many of them moved to the Americas whenever a chance came up.
The Mormons/ LDS were doing a lot of active recruiting in Europe starting in 1837. They would arrange free passage across the Atlantic for new converts and get them established on the path to New Zion once in America. It is very likely that a high percentage of the new converts were Crypto Jews and Conversos. The Mormons did claim their religion came from Hebrews that migrated to the New World before the birth of Christ.
This Saint wrote multiple blogs regarding her personal journey discovering her Sephardic Jewish ancestry. She had health issues that doctors were unable to diagnose and treat. Once her Sephardic heritage was known, they were able to treat her Familial Mediterranean Fever.
Here's one of her blogs. She has links to the other nine parts in her comments section.
Part V LDS and the Sephardic Connection: Seeding the Protestant Reformation
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I have more thoughts on the Mormons and Judaism which I will post separately.
SonofaBor made it clear that the book was about immigrants that hid their heritage, whether Jewish or Moorish.
And that these people ended up influencing and/or controlling important aspects of our society and economics. So let's keep digging into people with secrets that influenced early American society. They just might be of Jewish or Muslim heritage.
When Spain and Portugal forced conversion to Catholicism, it applied to Jews AND Muslims. The Conversos that were discriminated against if they stayed in Spain and Portugal were ex-Jews and ex-Muslims. The Conversos that fled to other countries and the New World had been Jews and Muslims. There were both Crypto Jews and Crypto Muslims that practiced their true religions in secret while pretending to be Catholic or Christian.
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SonofaBor mentions Freemasonry as being one of the tools used by the Jews to shape and control society and economy. If anyone disagrees, please follow the links in this action packed post:
Post in thread 'Freemasons as Parasites Freemasons as Parasites
So the Crypto Jews and Conversos may have founded Freemasonry...This ends up making more sense than Christians founding it. There are multiple insults to Christ within the Freemason rites that the public is aware of. And a focus on Eastern mysticism that is not generally present in Christianity.
As the New World was settled, the Freemasons "built" (were given) one of the best buildings in each new town. There was also an upstart branch of Freemasonry for Black folks called Prince Hall Freemasonry started in 1784. They were begrudgingly given some moderate sized preexisting buildings. The Shriners were developed as a branch of the Freemasons in 1872, with the last push of settlement westward. They were given the nicest Moorish style building in each town. They were too late to get good buildings on the East coast, but got some really outstanding Moorish temples and auditoriums in the Midwest and West!
Here is a detailed post I wrote regarding the branches of Freemasonry:
Post in thread 'Tartar Templar Mormon Lies' Tartar Templar Mormon Lies
Do these subdivisions of Freemasonry match up with the immigration patterns I have been discussing on this thread?
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Here's an interesting phenomenon that came up in my research on Melungians. A lot of Mormons/Latter Day Saints are discovering that they have Sephardic Jewish ancestors. Mormons/LDS are VERY interested in their genealogy and even keep the records in a bomb proof mountain. They believe they are able to ensure their ancestors a place in heaven by baptizing them into their church post-mortem. So they want to hunt down every ancestor and perform a baptism in their names.
There are many cases of LDS members with mystery illnesses such as Familial Mediterranean Fever that end up being Mediterranean based. With correct diagnoses they can finally get proper treatment. But they can't figure out where the DNA came from. They look back in their genealogies and find their relatives came from England or Holland in the 1500s-1600s, who have names that aren't Jewish.
Upon digging deeper the Saints are finding that these ancestors were Separdic Jews and Conversos who escaped Spain and Portugal and took refuge in the Northern European countries. They changed their names to fit into the Northern European societies. Some were Conversos who had truly converted to Catholicism, but may have retained some elements of Judaic practices and customs in their home life. Some pretended they were Christians after the move North to avoid discrimination, but practiced full Judaism at home in secret. These became known as Crypto Jews.
{ As an aside, the Protestant Reformation may have been brought on by Jewish thinking and influence. They also ran printing presses and were able to publish the Bible in various languages, once translated from Latin. This supported a key tenant of Protestantism, to allow regular people to read the Bible themselves. }
These Conversos and Crypto Jews were still not considered equal in Northern European society. Even with the new names and new religions. So, many of them moved to the Americas whenever a chance came up.
The Mormons/ LDS were doing a lot of active recruiting in Europe starting in 1837. They would arrange free passage across the Atlantic for new converts and get them established on the path to New Zion once in America. It is very likely that a high percentage of the new converts were Crypto Jews and Conversos. The Mormons did claim their religion came from Hebrews that migrated to the New World before the birth of Christ.
This Saint wrote multiple blogs regarding her personal journey discovering her Sephardic Jewish ancestry. She had health issues that doctors were unable to diagnose and treat. Once her Sephardic heritage was known, they were able to treat her Familial Mediterranean Fever.
Here's one of her blogs. She has links to the other nine parts in her comments section.
Part V LDS and the Sephardic Connection: Seeding the Protestant Reformation
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I have more thoughts on the Mormons and Judaism which I will post separately.
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