Mappe Monde Celeste Terrestre et Historique 1787

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L'EGYPTE

Fut autrefois un Roiaume her[edi]taire sans distinction de sexe appelé premierement Misraïm, c'est a dire Estroit, acause de sa forme, où de son fondateur puis Egypte, du surnom de Ramesses un de ses Rois. Il a este divisé en 36 nomies où Roiaume. Il est le plus riche du monde en Bleds, Pasturages et animaux pour la fecondité du Nil qui l'arrouse; C'est ou les Sciences, les Arts, les Loix Civiles et les Ordres de Religieux Chrestiens ont pris naissance, d'où les Pheniciens, et les Grecs, sont sortis, et ou le Papier s'est trouvé. La Religion Mahometane s'i-professe. Il a commencé en 1879 par Misraim et se gouverne par un Bacha que le grand Seigneur y envoie et quil de pose quand bon lui semble

EGYPT

Was in the old days an hereditary Kingdom without distinction of sex called at first Mizraim, which is to say Narrow, because of its shape, or from its founder then Egypte, of the surname of Ramesses one of its Kings. It was divided in 36 nomies or Kingdoms. It is the richest in the world in Wheat, Pastures and animals for the fertility of the Nil that waters it; It is where Sciences, Arts, Civil Laws and Christian Religious Orders were born, from where the Phoenicians, and the Greeks, came out of, where Paper found itself [was invented]. The Mahometan Religion is professed there. It was started in 1879 by Mizraim et is governed by a Bacha the the great Lord sends there and that he get rid off whenever he wishes.

So that's it for Egypt:
- Started about 4000 years ago
- Was first called Mizraim, like in the Bible
- Was an extremely fertile land (what happened?)
- Is the birth place of science, art, civil law, Christian orders, the Phoenicians, the Greeks (what?!) and paper

The first edition of this Atlas was published by Nicolas Jauegon in Paris 1688 and later it had subsequent engravings of it from different engravers through the years.

So that's why some dates on the map don't match each other. The map was updated several times and the older parts weren't always updated in the process.

Taking as a reference 1787 Jaugeon / Desnos Wall Map of the World in Hemispheres website which has a good description of the story of this map and they do sell the original of it, we can understand a bit more about the cartographers of it and how much effort they put into it, in order to have a decent work as mapmakers.

I went on the website, saw the price and immediately understood why there are so many counterfeiters!

 

[Gladius]

EGYPT

Was in the old days an hereditary Kingdom without distinction of sex called at first Mizraim, which is to say Narrow, because of its shape,

As in other Hebrew translations, the author is wrong but somewhat near.
To be fair, Mizraim etymology isn't figured out to this day. It was not claimed to mean Narrow, however.

Mizraim מצרים M.TZ.R.Y.M
By mainstream approach (and theorized only), it means Two Lands.
MTZR, from Arabic/Semitic, means Land. In Hebrew, the suffix ים (YM) means plural (pair), used for example in the words for eyes, legs, ears and more.
A Semitic speaker could then read this as Two Lands. The logic is explained by Egypt being classically divided in two, the Upper and the Lower Egypt.

The map's author must've derived the meaning Narrow from the presence of the two letters TZ.R , the צר in מצרים, which means Narrow in Hebrew, but is pronounced Tzar. This might be evidence that the author is only semi-proficient in Hebrew, and has been making independent etymologies throughout the map. However it is not beyond consideration that Mizraim indeed means Narrow, since we do not know the real etymology. It's just that no other had suggested it in the past, to my knowledge.

The location of biblical Mizraim is disputed as well, especially by Fomenko's chronlogy endorsers.
The Bible stories do not give us absolute proof that Mizraim has to be the land sitting on Israel's west border, despite the many stories involving it.

If we remember that the original Bible text had no punctuation to signify vowels, we're then left with just the letters M.TZ.R.YM מצרים
Divided into two words, מצר and ים ,
It will mean SEA STRAIT. (Metzar Yam)
We all know the crossing of the Red Sea story. Today the Red Sea is identified as the narrow sea south of Israel, to the eastern coast of Egypt's Sinai. But a simple look at the map shows that it isn't necessary to cross it in order to move east from Egypt, towards Israel.
However, if Mizraim lies across from a strait, then the story makes sense. The immediate candidate is Turkey's European side, but that's already off topic.

or from its founder then Egypte, of the surname of Ramesses one of its Kings. It was divided in 36 nomies or Kingdoms. It is the richest in the world in Wheat, Pastures and animals for the fertility of the Nil that waters it; It is where Sciences, Arts, Civil Laws and Christian Religious Orders were born, from where the Phoenicians, and the Greeks, came out of, where Paper found itself [was invented]. The Mahometan Religion is professed there. It was started in 1879 by Mizraim et is governed by a Bacha the the great Lord sends there and that he get rid off whenever he wishes.

So that's it for Egypt:
- Started about 4000 years ago
- Was first called Mizraim, like in the Bible
- Was an extremely fertile land (what happened?)
- Is the birth place of science, art, civil law, Christian orders, the Phoenicians, the Greeks (what?!) and paper

Egypt's fertility served both the stories of antiquity (people moving to Egypt due to droughts) and later, being the Roman Empire's food bank.
The change in its climate or water levels is evident in the bottom part of the Pyramids, showing water presence.

As for the Greeks, it is known that Greek culture and science flourished in Egypt. He might also be refering to the Greek church or Coptics.

 

[busy.baci]

So that's it for Egypt:
- Started about 4000 years ago
- Was first called Mizraim, like in the Bible
- Was an extremely fertile land (what happened?)
- Is the birth place of science, art, civil law, Christian orders, the Phoenicians, the Greeks (what?!) and paper

Maybe that statement has to do with the fact that not so long ago the Sahara desert might have not been a desert at all, but to the contrary, a fertile land like the cartographers were describing it to be.

You might want to give a quick read of these threads which expand on that idea.

• Annihilated African cities, killed population, establishment lies, Timgad and the Richat Structure Atlantis
• 400 year old Sahara Desert, or why people forgot everything they knew about Africa

The location of biblical Mizraim is disputed as well, especially by Fomenko's chronlogy endorsers.
The Bible stories do not give us absolute proof that Mizraim has to be the land sitting on Israel's west border, despite the many stories involving it.

We can't be really sure about many Biblical accounts because those are a collection of old stories put through a lens and whomever wrote them and heavily edited them is partially the culprit of this giant misunderstanding of places, people and events. In the end it might not even be that they knew what they were doing, because all they had to work with were oral traditions and mythological stories which might have been distorted by the word of mouth naturally eventually. So interpretations of them will vary on how those stories are approached.

Example. I do have some wild ideas from time to time and one of them is that the story of the Exodus has nothing to do with Egypt or Judeans, or Palestine's lands. The god of the Israelites (very different word from Judeans) was a very jealous one. He clearly punished the disbelief of the elder Israelites on him with them having to wonder 40 years in the wilderness just because they doubted his word continuously. 40 years is a very specific number and he new exactly the time frame involved as the right punishment, it's not that he meant something else, he meant exactly that. Even if they had to cross the whole of the Africa continent twice that would not have taken them 40 years.

I think the Israelites are a people that left a place for the promised land and they had to walk for 40 years because they might have come to earth from another 'planet' adjacent to it, think of Mars with it's deserts which is being depicted in various fictions films. "Jim Carter of Mars", or the planet Dantooine in the "Star Wars" universe. Both planets had 2 moons and 2 suns. It's wild, but there's something there. Interpretation is key in the old stories and once you nail down the context of it, everything becomes clear.

I don't want to turn this into a Bible, Talmud or Coran type of discussion. I'm sure there's plenty of weird stories to be discussed in each of those books.

 

[PuzzleBear]

Israelites and "ancient Greeks" share a lot ...

It seems as if on the map zodiac constellations are no longer among those 48, at least not all. For I am sure, le pot = the water pot = AQUARIUS ! THEY had already added constellations, whereas it’s not really added, just the existing ones divided into other areas.

Changes with the star constellations started around 1589, maybe even earlier. Here is a List of former constellations, no longer in use, English

These are 2 former constellations I find quite telling

ANTINOUS

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The constellation was supposed to have been created by Emperor Hadrian in 132. Antinous, a beautiful youth loved by Hadrian and also his erotic lover. This makes me think of “ancient Greek” Pederasty.

Tycho Brahe was originally given credit for inventing Antinous, which, imo, is even correct and Hadrian lived around the same time and had some special “unnatural” pleasures …. Yeah, current [forged] finds … proove whatever is wanted and paid for !

Another interesting former constellation is :

Argo Navis

If the “ancient Greeks” could not see the southern stars, how could they know about Argo Navis ? But Argo Navis was known and named by “Ptolemy in 2nd century AD”. There was no “Age of Discovery”, that’s Make-Believe.

Contradictions within one page: Constellations: Guides to the Night Sky – Constellation Guide

There are 88 constellations in the sky officially recognized by the International Astronomical Union. Thirty-six lie predominantly in the northern sky and 52 are found in the southern celestial hemisphere. The northern constellations are mostly based on Ptolemy’s 48 Greek constellations, while many of the southern ones that were invisible to the Greeks were not created until the 16th century.

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The only Greek constellation that is no longer in use is Argo Navis. Once the largest constellation in the sky, Argo Navis (the Ship Argo) represented the ship on which Jason and the Argonauts sailed to Colchis to retrieve the Golden Fleece. It was divided into three separate constellations – Carina (the Keel), Puppis (the Stern), and Vela (the Sails) – by the French astronomer Nicolas Louis de Lacaille in the 18th century. [in 1752]
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Since the Greeks and Romans could not see the stars in the far southern sky, many of the modern-day southern constellations were not created until the Age of Discovery, when European navigators started exploring the southern hemisphere and charting the southern skies. The German astronomer Johann Bayer introduced 11 new constellations in his star atlas Uranometria (1603). These constellations were created by the Dutch-Flemish astronomer Petrus Plancius based on the sky charts provided by the Dutch explorers Pieter Dirkszoon Keyser and Frederick de Houtman. Seven of the modern 88 constellations were created by the Polish astronomer Johannes Hevelius in the 17th century. In the 18th century Nicolas-Louis de Lacaille created an additional 14 southern constellations during his stay in South Africa.

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The constellations that were not listed by Ptolemy were created and named between the 16th and 19th centuries. Those created based on observations made by Dutch explorers who travelled to the southern hemisphere in the late 16th century were mostly named after the exotic animals the explorers encountered on their journeys: Chamaeleon, Apus (the Bird of Paradise), Grus (the Crane), Tucana (the Toucan), Volans (the Flying Fish), etc.

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Source pic from page with the “Greek” Constellations
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From the Southern constellation page:

"Argo Navis was first catalogued by the Greek astronomer Claudius Ptolemy in his Almagest in the 2nd century CE. It was divided into the three smaller constellations by the French astronomer Nicolas Louis de Lacaille in 1752."


According to this site, Argo Navis was even known to the author of the Odyssee in “4th century BC”.

Argo Navis & the Abolished Constellations

"It was considered unwieldy by science as De Lacaille explained in 1763, from his observation point in Cape Town, South Africa (there he asserted the position of nearly 10,000 stars), that there were more than a hundred and sixty stars in it, and it was initially broken into three different constellations Carina, Pupis, and Vela; Pyxis Nautica was added later. The Argo Novis was not abolished, but dismantled.

A discoverer of constellations himself, Johann Elert Bode tells us in 1801: “This figure commemorates the famous ship of antiquity, which was built according to legend at the command of Minerva and Neptune in Thessaly from Argo, and it is that which the Greek hero Jason and the Argonauts used to collect the Golden Fleece from the place of the eastern shore of the Black Sea known as Colchis.” Argo Navis as a constellation appears first in a list by Eudoxus of Cnidus in the 4th century BC, and the ship was known to the author of the Odyssey.

The ship was thought to be a variety of galley, an oceangoing craft with a shallow draft, low profile and long narrow hull (Barentine), and according to Eratosthenes, the constellation represented the first ship to sail the ocean, long before Jason’s time"


Argo Navis was definitely known before it disappeared in the "Dark Ages" to be “discovered” in the “Age of Discoveries” and to be dismanteled some time later in 1752. Did this happen to wipe memories of that “famous ship of antiquity” because it relates to THEY ?​

The Argo Navis used as Logo by PRIVATE companies, that own literally everything:

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Last, but not least, the Ship, or Noah's Ark is yet mentioned in sacred/secret books (from star gazer) of the Old Testament, namely Israel’s wanderings and David. The Old Testament was supposedly written from 1600 to 400 BC. Exerpts from the book Hebrew mythology:
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[Code For Faith]

In Hebrew, the suffix ים (YM) means plural (pair), used for example in the words for eyes, legs, ears and more.

Thanks @Gladius, I really appreciate you took the time to explain the etymology of the word Mizraim. I'm particularly intrigued with the suffix "ים". I'll be meditating on it.

You might want to give a quick read of these threads which expand on that idea.

I'll be looking at it. There is so much information to look at / study / evaluate, it feels overwhelming!

I don't want to turn this into a Bible, Talmud or Coran type of discussion.

Understood. As a side note though, can a husband love his wife and not be jealous? And after taking her out of slavery and showing her his might, wouldn't he be angered if she told him "Sorry, I'm not sure you can really provide for me and protect me, I'd rather go back being a salve"?

Last, but not least, the Ship, or Noah's Ark is yet mentioned in sacred/secret books (from star gazer) of the Old Testament, namely Israel’s wanderings and David. The Old Testament was supposedly written from 1600 to 400 BC. Exerpts from the book Hebrew mythology:

I was reading your comments about the constellations and not really getting it. I was like: "Well, if a given civilisation doesn't want to be reminded about pedophile gay lovers every time they look up to the stars, then good for them!". But then the point of breaking down a symbol to obfuscate the history, knowledge and wisdom of the ancient dawned (pun) on me. So many mysteries and hidden things to explore, where should I start and where should I go? But in these words my soul finds rest: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." [John 14:6]

 

[busy.baci]

I'll be looking at it. There is so much information to look at / study / evaluate, it feels overwhelming!

You don't have to feel pressured about it, I suggested you reading those threads because those were in tune with what you're saying and I thought you might have a slight interest in it in order to expand more. I know, nobody likes to be told on what to read. It was just a tip.

Understood. As a side note though, can a husband love his wife and not be jealous? And after taking her out of slavery and showing her his might, wouldn't he be angered if she told him "Sorry, I'm not sure you can really provide for me and protect me, I'd rather go back being a salve"?

I'm not sure I got right the example you used with loving a wife and being jealous about her, I'm the kind of man who can love multiple women in the same time and I'm fine with the consequences of it. Sure, you and others can expand on religious subjects as much as you'd like, the thread it's not my private property. But sometime I do have a good sense of predicting the future of arguments when things might get complicated, but sure, you can dismiss that and put forth the facts you'll like to say and everything will be fine.

 

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LA NUBIE

Est un Païs gouverné par un Roi tributaire de l'Empire des Abyssins. Les Hebreux l'ont appelé Nubiah, Germe de Dieu parceque l'unuque de la Reine de Candaces y porta, où y fit germer l'Evangile où plûtost pour la bonté du Païs, qui est le plus riche d'Afrique en Or, Froment, Sucre, Yvoire, Civettes, et en un Poison dont l'once vaut plus de 100 de Ducats que l'on ne vend qu'à condition que l'on ne s'en servira que dehors le Païs. Les Fleuves du Nil et de Nubia sont les principaux qui l'arrousent. les Religions Paienne, Juifves et Chrestiène y ont Fleurit maintenent les Peuples ne se souci d'aucune n'aiant en vüe que le Commerce qui les rend fort opulens

NUBIA

Is a Country governed by a King tributary to the Abysian's Empire [Abyssinie is Ethiopia as indicated on the full map]. The Hebrews called it Nubiah, Germ of God [Sprout of God] because the Queen of Cadances' eunuch brought there, or sprouted there the Gospel or maybe for the goodness of the Country, that is the richest of Africa in Gold, Wheat, Sugar, Ivory, Civet, and a Poison that costs 100 Ducats per ounces that we sell only at the condition that we will use it only outside of the Country. The Rivers of the Nil and of Nubia are the principal that water it. the Religions Pagan, Jewish and Christian now Flourish there the People do not worry about any of them having in sight only the Trade that makes them very opulent

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Were the Hebrews really naming countries after Christian evangelical endeavors? Or maybe they were Christian Hebrews? Or perhaps it is another rough translation?

And what about that poison that they'll sell to you only if you don't use it in their country? Is that ancient Big Pharma or what!

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I'm not sure I got right the example you used with loving a wife and being jealous about her, I'm the kind of man who can love multiple women in the same time and I'm fine with the consequences of it.

Well, all is said. I just wanted to illustrate that great love could also imply great jealousy and anger. And that God loves the tribes of Israel like a husband loves his wife. Also, since I'm on it, I'd like to add that the relationship between God and man is now opened to all humans that will repent of their sins (stop doing the things that God hates) and believe in Jesus Christ (that He died on the cross and rose from the dead and that He took all the anger that God had against us).

 

[Gladius]

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NUBIA

Is a Country governed by a King tributary to the Abysian's Empire [Abyssinie is Ethiopia as indicated on the full map]. The Hebrews called it Nubiah, Germ of God [Sprout of God] because the Queen of Cadances' eunuch brought there, or sprouted there the Gospel or maybe for the goodness of the Country, that is the richest of Africa in Gold, Wheat, Sugar, Ivory, Civet, and a Poison that costs 100 Ducats per ounces that we sell only at the condition that we will use it only outside of the Country. The Rivers of the Nil and of Nubia are the principal that water it. the Religions Pagan, Jewish and Christian now Flourish there the People do not worry about any of them having in sight only the Trade that makes them very opulent

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Were the Hebrews really naming countries after Christian evangelical endeavors? Or maybe they were Christian Hebrews? Or perhaps it is another rough translation?

Nubia is the Western version of the region's name. In Arabic, Nuba, in Egyptian Arabic, Nawba. In some others, Nubi.

In Hebrew the land is classically called Kush. "Nubia" is foreign to Hebrew. It's claimed that Nub means Gold in old Egyptian, and gold was indeed extracted there.

The author again shows his strange Hebrew skills.
Everything that ends in Ya יה indeed means "of God". Like in Hodaya, which means Thanksgiving, but translates literally as Thanks-of-God.
But "Nub" is not in Hebrew nor any word similar to it, or close in any way to Sprout.

As you said, it's strange that Jews will call a land after Christian missionaires. Kush was also never a Jewish hub, and no community ever rose there, as most of the Jews of Africa centered in Ethiopia, aka Abyssinia.
There, the boundries between Jew and Christian were not tight: Both see themselves as descendants of the Israelite Dan Tribe. The Muslims kept invading this region too, causing unity among them.

 

[PuzzleBear]

The author again shows his strange Hebrew skills.
Everything that ends in Ya יה indeed means "of God". Like in Hodaya, which means Thanksgiving, but translates literally as Thanks-of-God.
But "Nub" is not in Hebrew nor any word similar to it, or close in any way to Sprout.

Maybe the scribes/monks got confused with the "dead" language translations they received ?

In Latin "nubes" means clouds. Which would be a symbol for fertile land.

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And what about that poison that they'll sell to you only if you don't use it in their country? Is that ancient Big Pharma or what!

In Hebrew the land is classically called Kush. "

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Not every poison is deadly
maybe it was yet "illegal" in Nubia back then ???

 

[Gladius]

Cannabis Kush strains are called after the Hindu Kush mountain range in Asia

 

[Deleted member 37]

Not every poison is deadly
maybe it was yet "illegal" in Nubia back then ???

Spot on! Nubia was in fact colonized by Indians, a fact widely known in the past and now forgotten... or deleted.
Here a map where it is stated: Sixteenth century maps from Tuscany

 

[CatELyst]

This is an interesting thread! I am fascinated by the map as well.

At the same time, I notice a heavy use of Wikipedia as a reference in here, and the tendency of those commenting to "reverse engineer" the map's data with our current understanding of history, etc. The fact that this entire website is based on precept that our understanding of history is incorrect, "written by the victor" and therefore suspect should be taken into consideration when we encounter a relic from the past that hasn't been destroyed.

Regarding the calendar specifically, do we actually know that the map's references and dates are NOT accurate? Could they in fact be true, whereas the time for our understanding of history is incorrect?? There are so many threads on here that have proven our "known" timeline to be complete fallacy.

Regarding languages, do be careful here. Using modern language to "confirm" words specific to the map is not appropriate. That's reverse engineering in the sense of using slang to understand ancient text.....it can't be done accurately.

 

[Code For Faith]

Alright so I didn't find anymore Hebrew etymologies on the map... So what should I do? Should I just call it a day and go home, or should I rather give you guys something to think about?

Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you Arabia!
Let's see what the ancients had to say...

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L'ARABIE

Vient d'Arab qui signifie dresser des Embuches acause que le peuple y est naturellement voleur on la divise en DESERTE, où le peuple y tente PETRÉ, ou la Loi fut donnée a Moÿse et HEUREUSE acause quelle abonde en Or, Argent, Perles, Pierreries, Baume et Parfums ; Cette derniere contient 4 Roiaumes outre le terri[toire de] la Mecque Saba [estoit a]utrefois sa princi[pale] [ville] ou on enfermoit les Rois pour toute leur vie apres leur Election. Les femmes y avoient autant de maris que de freres. Le Deuil si portoit en rouge. Les Peuples y ont adoré la Lune jusqu'au tems que Mahomet y Etabli sa religion.

ARABIA

Comes from Arab that means to set up Ambushes because the people there is naturally stealing we divide it in DESERT, where the people dwells in tents COVERED IN ROCKS*, where the Law was given to Moses and HAPPY because it abounds in Gold, Silver, Perles, Precious stones, Balm and Perfumes ; The aforementioned contains 4 Kingdoms beyond the terri[tory of] Mecca Saba [being i]n the old days its princi[pale] [city] where we locked up the Kings for their whole life after their Election. The women there have as many husbands as they have brothers. The mourning attire is red. The people there worshiped the Moon until the time Mohamed Established there his religion.

* Pétré is an old word that could mean "covered in rocks" or describe the geographical location near Sinai in Arabia.

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So first, we can clearly see that, sorry Google, I'm not islamophobic, I simply have an historically accurate view of the world.
Second, Mecca seems to have been an important city where elected kings where held their whole life.
Third, it seems that at this time the women had many husbands!
Fourth, is the pagan worship of the moon at that time the reason why there are still crescent moons on top of mosques to this day?

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Not every poison is deadly
maybe it was yet "illegal" in Nubia back then ???

Cannabis Kush strains are called after the Hindu Kush mountain range in Asia

I had no idea why you suddenly started talking about weed. And all these smileys... suspicious... Now I get it!
In case it's not obvious, I'll strongly advise you against the use of these substances as it spiritually opens you to a lot of things you definitely don't want anywhere near you. I mean demons and fallen angels.

Kush was also never a Jewish hub, and no community ever rose there, as most of the Jews of Africa centered in Ethiopia, aka Abyssinia.

That interesting! I think I heard in the documentary Europa The Last Battle that Hitler wanted to create a Jewish settlement there. That would explain why.

I notice a heavy use of Wikipedia as a reference in here

Hi sister, we are using Wikipedia more like a stepping stone so that we all can share to each other what the narrative is on a given topic before discussing / refuting it more in depth.

Regarding languages, do be careful here. Using modern language to "confirm" words specific to the map is not appropriate. That's reverse engineering in the sense of using slang to understand ancient text.....it can't be done accurately.

That's right! As we can also see with the creative etymologies given by the author of this map.

By the way I noticed many names of unrelated people, words, events and places in our current time that seem connected in some way, when it clearly isn't. And I was wondering if we wouldn't be tempted in 2 or 3 hundred years from now, to draw connections that are in fact wrong.
For example, let's say two leaders in Africa both called Mohamed, living 50 years apart and in two different countries, that we would try to reinterpret as being the same man...

 

[PuzzleBear]

Spot on! Nubia was in fact colonized by Indians, a fact widely known in the past and now forgotten... or deleted.
Here a map where it is stated: Sixteenth century maps from Tuscany

I didn’t know about the Indians in Nubia until now , will read about that.
I just connected the name of the land Kush to the plant Kush.

At the same time, I notice a heavy use of Wikipedia as a reference in here, and the tendency of those commenting to "reverse engineer" the map's data with our current understanding of history, etc. The fact that this entire website is based on precept that our understanding of history is incorrect, "written by the victor" and therefore suspect should be taken into consideration when we encounter a relic from the past that hasn't been destroyed.

Regarding the calendar specifically, do we actually know that the map's references and dates are NOT accurate? Could they in fact be true, whereas the time for our understanding of history is incorrect?? There are so many threads on here that have proven our "known" timeline to be complete fallacy.

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Usually the infos found on wiki are brief summaries from texts of books which represent contemporary official History. Whatever, it’s all owned by THEY and controlled by AI.

THEY have been altering and forging so much, especially since the early 1800s. We have to go through the material we are ALLOWED to see and hope to find some pieces in older “contemporary History” THEY couldn’t have changed back then and so THEY contradict themselves now. Btw, "Ancient Greece" is somewhat awesome

Allowed to see, because THEY have all the power to remove or change what doesn’t fit. Although nowadays nothing is anymore a danger to THEY and THEIR plan to dominate the world.

These books point out how the system works, Protocols of Sion and Secret World Government.

Of course, if these books would really reveal the whole truth, they were not available for us. Especially the Protocols are telling, because the "revealed" plans have proven to be accurate. THEY had created scape goats and Judas goats and remain still hidden, laughing ...

In fact, we do not know anything about our past (like more than 3 generations) to be 100% accurate or true. Yet our reality is SCRIPTED, it's a Clown's World we live in. I suspect it's been like that since we have Kings & priests.

 

[Gladius]

ARABIA

Comes from Arab that means to set up Ambushes because the people there is naturally stealing we divide it in DESERT, where the people dwells in tents COVERED IN ROCKS*, where the Law was given to Moses and HAPPY because it abounds in Gold, Silver, Perles, Precious stones, Balm and Perfumes ; The aforementioned contains 4 Kingdoms beyond the terri[tory of] Mecca Saba [being i]n the old days its princi[pale] [city] where we locked up the Kings for their whole life after their Election. The women there have as many husbands as they have brothers. The mourning attire is red. The people there worshiped the Moon until the time Mohamed Established there his religion.

* Pétré is an old word that could mean "covered in rocks" or describe the geographical location near Sinai in Arabia.

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So first, we can clearly see that, sorry Google, I'm not islamophobic, I simply have an historically accurate view of the world.
Second, Mecca seems to have been an important city where elected kings where held their whole life.
Third, it seems that at this time the women had many husbands!
Fourth, is the pagan worship of the moon at that time the reason why there are still crescent moons on top of mosques to this day?

It sounds like the etymology got messed up here, originally by the author and a bit through translation.
Just to add, in Hebrew the word Arab is pronounced ARAVI and means someone who dwells in the ARAVA.
ARAVA is a grassland, but rather in the semi-arid type of the Middle East. (don't think of European grasslands)
It can also be thought as DESERT in a way.

In the Quran, the word Arab only exists as an adjective, and is a synonym to the word 'clear' i.e 'loud and clear'. (so Arabs aren't called Arabs in the Quran)

Other Semitic-based connections to "Arab" can be:
West (Ma'arav, Magreb)
Sunset, Evening (EREV)
Transfer (AVAR) - as in being a nomad

Due to the connection with the Moon worship, perhaps the name Arab was given to them by others: Arabs are those who worship the Western direction, the Night, the Moon. Just a suggestion.

I had no idea why you suddenly started talking about weed. And all these smileys... suspicious... Now I get it!
In case it's not obvious, I'll strongly advise you against the use of these substances as it spiritually opens you to a lot of things you definitely don't want anywhere near you. I mean demons and fallen angels.

I am well experienced with it, but I do not use it.
Thanks for the tip I'm well aware of it, but I take the subject lightly. It's a plant, it's bad to use it excessively like many other natural things.
If one is already in a per-existing vulnerable mental state, it is indeed highly risky to use.

That interesting! I think I heard in the documentary Europa The Last Battle that Hitler wanted to create a Jewish settlement there. That would explain why.

You're speaking of the Madagascar Plan, that's different.
The Zionist movement exists since the late 19th century. Prior to their idea of settling in Israel/Palestine, there were other offers.
A famous one was the Uganada Scheme in 1905 which aimed to establish a Jewish country in Uganada-Kenya. (not in Kush either)
The scheme along with others were all devised by Zionists, but failed to be agreed upon between their parties.

The Madagascar Plan was first devised in 1885. It was adopted by various Nazi-supporters in Europe prior to WW2.
The Zionists themselves agreed to discuss that plan, but it was deemed non practical. Needless to say, Madagascar is remote and without any Jewish history.

 

[Starfire]

Thank you for doing a thread on this map. It's quite a find.

I just posted this on one of my threads, and will repost the relevant parts here.

Post in thread 'Native American Nations and Septentrionalis' Native American Nations and Septentrionalis

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This map has aspects of a map, astronomical chart, history and calendar combined, with commentary on religion and society. Obviously a concerted effort by TPTB to lay out the history and timeline they required. What a treasure trove! It was started and then edited over a period of about 100 years (1688-1786). This particular image is likely the latest version. I believe some items remain on it that were overlooked during the editing process to change the narrative.

I did find an older version of the map, I believe it is the original from 1688, based on the inscription on the lower left border that says 1688. And California is still an island. Someone with a better grasp on French than I have might be able to find gaps in the narrative between the two.

I couldn't get the really high quality image to download right, but here's the link:

https://www.ign.es/web/BibliotecaIGN/12-L-15_01.jpg

And here's an okay image:

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Earlier in this thread there was a closeup of a portion of the map.

There are four cultures listed in the second circle in yellow. Listed with each of them is the time of year they celebrate the start of the New Year. They are:

- The Egyptians at the Dog Days
- The Roman people at the Vernal Equinox
- The Hebrews at the Autumn Equinox
- The Septentrionals at the Winter Solstice

Obviously at the time of the creation of this map there was a distinct culture known by Septentrional. It was known of worldwide. Not just by name, people knew they followed a different calendar!

Here is the same medallion from the original map, but it is laid out as a spiral.

You will want to use the earlier link to get a clearer look. I dug into this a bit and the medallion represents the Epact of the Solar and Lunar calendars. Basically, the differences in the two calendars over a 19 year cycle. It was used to determine the timing of Easter.

It's probably just an artistic choice, with the second version being easier to read. But, when I first saw that spiral on the earlier version, I really got the feeling it was an older representation of time that was aligned with older energy systems such as wave, sound, light and plasma.

I don't know if the numbers in the two medallions match. This could have been used to help fix the Easter calendar problem I read about in another thread.

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This is the first time I have seen North America called Columbia on a map. And the alternate name given is America Septentrionalis. These titles remain for the hundred years that this map was revised.

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A funny aside is that when you search for this map on images, most of the images that come up are edited close-ups from this thread!