Mythological Venus/Saturn as the biggest Mud-Fossil which brought the great deluge.

[Akanah]

I have mentioned in this forum before that I had read the theories of Immanuel Velikovsky's comet Venus and I had translated David Talbott's book "The Saturn Myth" into German to better understand it.

I had already asked myself in relation to Immanuel Velikovsky whether people from ancient times had really been too imaginative in describing Venus as a dragon with horns, scales, feathers and a long tail or whether the materialistic world view that we humans have today could be wrong. When I read in David Talbott's book that Saturn also had horns and scales, I wondered not only whether Venus and Saturn might have been just two different names of the same planet, but also whether this planet might not have been alive in general. If the planet Venus or Saturn could have been alive, there should be evidence of this. And there is.

When I started looking into the subject of mud fossils, the Turkish lake "Tuz Gölü" soon caught my eye. Because this lake looks like an eye. Luckily I still have an old google-photo of the eye lake, because you can no longer recognize it on google-map. Maybe NASA has censored the lake in the meantime. The whole of Turkey gives the impression of belonging to a giant head with a mouth that is open towards the Mediterranean. If you look from Turkey to the Himalayas, you can see surface structures that look scaly.

Now, about a day ago, Roger Spurr from the youtube channel "Mud-Fossils-University" himself released a video where he discovered huge feather structures of a creature in America that he associated with Venus. Unfortunately he didn't realize that the supposed head in America is actually the tail and the head is the turkey, but his findings fit well with my discovery.

Here is the video about him:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9dS4NReS8


On the actual subject of the great Deluge:

For years, more and more fossils of once gigantic creatures that were as big as entire mountains have been found on Earth and many have wondered what could have killed them all.
Now, many mythological texts always pointed out that the great destroyer and bringer of the great deluge was said to have been a huge comet with horns and a long tail called Venus or Saturn during his death.

Immanuel Vellikovsky did cover this topic, but he rather assumed that Venus was a comet in the scientific sense ala Snowball or a plasmoid like the Thunderbolts project postulated. It would never have occurred to him that Venus or Saturn were alive. Well, that's exactly what I'm saying and that's what Roger Spurr is now saying too. When a living being that is about the size of an entire continent falls to the earth, it has the greatest power to bury all other living beings under itself.
And that's what could have happened. Maybe Venus/Saturn was some kind of Earth symbiont that could have flown around the Earth forever, but then this creature died and crashed to Earth.

Nowadays we humans are told that we are supposedly on the brink of another great mass extinction, but I rather believe that we are all living in the post-apocalyptic period after the last great mass extinctions. There are people who believe that a new apocalypse could happen soon, but I now see it that the apocalypse has already happened and we smaller humans, animals and plants are what's left of it.

There was a video called "There are no forests" illustrates the current state of our earth's surface and the biome on the earth's surface.
Unfortunately, this topic is mostly used by flat-earthers. However, I don't believe in the theory of a flat earth because I think the earth itself is alive.

For some time now, the topic of the 3 days of darkness has been raised more and more frequently on youtube as if it were something that still had to happen.
In my opinion, however, this 3 days of darkness refers to the event when the great dragonlike being Venus/Saturn fell to earth.

At the time when this being fell to earth, people were living on the being and they had the impression that their world or earth had tipped over or rolled over.
They then saw the sun rise and set on the wrong side, possibly because they were living on the belly side of the creature and the creature had fallen backwards onto the earth.
Other people who did not live on these beings had the impression that the sky would fall to earth. Much of what has been mentioned in prophecies or past cataclysms apparently depended on such points of view.

Another interesting thing I realized is that the most important symbol of Venus as a shell, as it also appears on the facade of Art Nouveau buildings, was probably not a conventional shell at all, but a scale. Remnants of this scale structure can be found as water terraces.
I mention this fact because only people who have lived on these creatures should have known exactly what these scales look like and been able to display them on their house fronts. Most Art Nouveau buildings can be found in Europe, but some can also be found in America or Australia.
Body parts of this creature are apparently scattered all over the world. The shell pattern is therefore the memory of this creature and the memory of the time when this creature was still alive. Unfortunately, in the town where I was born, I noticed that many of these shell symbols on house facades had been defaced by subsequently carved dates.

The lost history of humanity and its culture originally resulted from life on these giant beings called Venus/Saturn. It also seems that the people who lived mainly on the ventral side of Venus/Saturn took the trauma of the celestial fall personally. And that is probably why there is the idea of the fall of mankind.

 

[Akanah]

Christian symbolism explains the Saturn cycle ?
I think of it like this:

The Easter egg represents the new Saturn egg.
This egg was also the new earth (not the place we all live on) that was created in Genesis.
The Christmas star/star of Bethlehem represents the new Saturn seed that fertilized the egg.
Christmas actually stands for the fertilization of the new Saturn egg and its implantation in the breast of old Saturn. A wound in the chest of the old Saturn stands for the bed or the manger in Bethlehem in which the new Christ child then lies in the form of an primitiv embryo (gastrula).
Jesus Christ with the red heart in front of his chest therefore stands for the old Saturn with the new embryonic Christ Child on his chest.
It is also an allusion to the fact that, according to ancient mythology, a god was always disempowered or killed by his son.

When the time has come for the embryo to become the world teacher, the embryo is lifted into the sky and is surrounded by a golden amniotic sac that fills with celestial water.
At this stage, the new Saturn corresponds to the seated Messiah or Buddha with a halo who shines as a great central light above the earth. It then also stands for the great world tree. David Talbott mentioned in his book "The Saturn Myth" that Saturn used to be worshipped as the central and fixed true sun.
Now, Saturn will give off so much light and warmth as an embryo enclosed in an amniotic sac that the animals, humans and plants will become huge again.
The golden age and paradise will be restored.

After Saturn has hatched or been born as an embryo in his golden amniotic sac (which represents his ring), he will ascend very high up to heaven/all. People always believe that Saturn died and therefore ascended to the afterlife or heaven and they expect him to come back.
Saturn's true birth is therefore actually the ascension.

And Saturn will also return later.
But before this happens, there are major earth changes because the earth itself is growing and developing.
And in the midst of these earth changes, Saturn comes back to earth, or rather it falls back to earth and really dies.
He again triggers a deluge and a world conflagration that destroys the giant living beings, ending the golden age and paradise once more.
This is always the day of the great purification and it is actually also the time of the 3 cosmic dark days.
Because Saturn is the true sun, it becomes dark for the huge flora and fauna in the world. Only for the tiny flora and fauna like us it is not dark, because we align ourselves with a star that we think is our sun. After the old Saturn has died, a new world egg appears again, which is fertilized and nests in the breast of the old Saturn.

There is an indication of where the new embryo of Saturn is located. Stephan Brandt has pointed out several times in his book "3 Tage im Spätherbst" that in one prophecy it is said that the new world teacher will come from Europe from about the 51st parallel.
It occurred to me that Europa could have been the breast of old Saturn with its nipples near Paris and Prague around it.
What strikes me in Central Europe is a thunderbolt-like structure between the Harz Mountains in Germany and almost the eastern end of Poland over a length of 1000 km. Could this be the new re-incarnating Saturn?

It is not clear how long such a Saturn cycle lasts, because since we represent the micro-biome, we probably count more years than the former giants. What could take 3 dark days for the giants could take decades, centuries or millennia for us.

 

[Akanah]

The idea of Godzilla as a manifestation of embryonic Saturn:

I believe the figure of Godzilla did not simply represent an embodiment of an atomic mushroom cloud, but it represented the new Saturn as a raised embryonic germinal disk/gastrula.

In the Godzilla phase, the gastrula was not yet erect as can be seen in the picture here.

There is a thread in this forum that reads "God is a mushroom." I suspect that this is the direct connection to the planet god Saturn.
Link ->God is a Mushroom

One could ask whether the current fear of a third world war with nuclear bombs is due to the fact that the world elite believes that the new embryonic Saturnian god will soon be seen again standing from the earth to the sky like a large mushroom cloud, Godzilla head or world tree.

Another interesting analogy to the Godzilla-head is the idea of people often depicting heads on coins with ears of corn or wreaths around them. Here too, I suspect that the heads represent the Saturnian embryo and the ear or spike represents the amniotic sac that has formed around it. The idea of taking self-portraits or photos of his head or face is also a strong focus on this image that Saturn has given us. The Karl Marx head has stood there for many years in my home town of Chemnitz and I never knew why there was such a head and I didn't know anything about the man himself. But I know that the placement of busts can also be a reference to the Saturnian embryo.

The real world war has always referred to the raising of embryonic Saturn. The word world war in German can be derived from the meaning "to get a world." Ever since Saturn has existed in its re-incarnation cycle, people have tended to imitate Saturn with its form and workings. All religious, cultural and social actions of humans are imitations of the manifestation and action of Saturn. This means that we are all Saturn worshippers and worshippers of Saturn, whether we realize it or not.

 

[Udjat]

What does Saturn have to say about it. I would like to know what Saturn is saying, I wonder what its radio waves are transmitting, what messages we are missing, any planet for that matter.

 

[Akanah]

What does Saturn have to say about it. I would like to know what Saturn is saying, I wonder what its radio waves are transmitting, what messages we are missing, any planet for that matter.

This is not about the celestial body that scientists consider to be a gaseous planet with a ring. I'm not even sure if this kind of planet really exists. I think most of the planets in our world are just reflections of our living Earth. This thread is about the planet god Saturn as people from ancient times had seen him and this planet god seemed very much alive.
And if he were currently alive and able to speak, I would like to know what he would have to say. But perhaps he always has the same spiritual wisdom to tell us and we keep forgetting it and then devote ourselves to more materialistic ideas about the world.

 

[JVreeland]

Christian symbolism explains the Saturn cycle ?
I think of it like this:

The Easter egg represents the new Saturn egg.
This egg was also the new earth (not the place we all live on) that was created in Genesis.
The Christmas star/star of Bethlehem represents the new Saturn seed that fertilized the egg.
Christmas actually stands for the fertilization of the new Saturn egg and its implantation in the breast of old Saturn. A wound in the chest of the old Saturn stands for the bed or the manger in Bethlehem in which the new Christ child then lies in the form of an primitiv embryo (gastrula).
Jesus Christ with the red heart in front of his chest therefore stands for the old Saturn with the new embryonic Christ Child on his chest.
It is also an allusion to the fact that, according to ancient mythology, a god was always disempowered or killed by his son.

When the time has come for the embryo to become the world teacher, the embryo is lifted into the sky and is surrounded by a golden amniotic sac that fills with celestial water.
At this stage, the new Saturn corresponds to the seated Messiah or Buddha with a halo who shines as a great central light above the earth. It then also stands for the great world tree. David Talbott mentioned in his book "The Saturn Myth" that Saturn used to be worshipped as the central and fixed true sun.
Now, Saturn will give off so much light and warmth as an embryo enclosed in an amniotic sac that the animals, humans and plants will become huge again.
The golden age and paradise will be restored.

After Saturn has hatched or been born as an embryo in his golden amniotic sac (which represents his ring), he will ascend very high up to heaven/all. People always believe that Saturn died and therefore ascended to the afterlife or heaven and they expect him to come back.
Saturn's true birth is therefore actually the ascension.

And Saturn will also return later.
But before this happens, there are major earth changes because the earth itself is growing and developing.
And in the midst of these earth changes, Saturn comes back to earth, or rather it falls back to earth and really dies.
He again triggers a deluge and a world conflagration that destroys the giant living beings, ending the golden age and paradise once more.
This is always the day of the great purification and it is actually also the time of the 3 cosmic dark days.
Because Saturn is the true sun, it becomes dark for the huge flora and fauna in the world. Only for the tiny flora and fauna like us it is not dark, because we align ourselves with a star that we think is our sun. After the old Saturn has died, a new world egg appears again, which is fertilized and nests in the breast of the old Saturn.

There is an indication of where the new embryo of Saturn is located. Stephan Brandt has pointed out several times in his book "3 Tage im Spätherbst" that in one prophecy it is said that the new world teacher will come from Europe from about the 51st parallel.
It occurred to me that Europa could have been the breast of old Saturn with its nipples near Paris and Prague around it.
What strikes me in Central Europe is a thunderbolt-like structure between the Harz Mountains in Germany and almost the eastern end of Poland over a length of 1000 km. Could this be the new re-incarnating Saturn?

It is not clear how long such a Saturn cycle lasts, because since we represent the micro-biome, we probably count more years than the former giants. What could take 3 dark days for the giants could take decades, centuries or millennia for us.

Interesting.. Great angle an direction.... Familiar with all your sourced .... Only thing.. Time is only relative so 3 days could be mere flashes the other way right? Then again I can change the calendar an what defines a year... But generally the larger the organism the slower it metabolizes an generally lives longer..aka redwoods...large tortoise..I'm just shooting..

 

[Akanah]

Interesting.. Great angle an direction.... Familiar with all your sourced .... Only thing.. Time is only relative so 3 days could be mere flashes the other way right? Then again I can change the calendar an what defines a year... But generally the larger the organism the slower it metabolizes an generally lives longer..aka redwoods...large tortoise..I'm just shooting..

Yes, there is the physical idea of natural scientists that time would pass more slowly with a very high mass of matter than with a lower mass of matter. You could also say that time slows down for larger living beings. I once had the idea that bacteria seen through a microscope might not be unicellular organisms at all, but rather something like living beings that develop in time-lapse evolution.

 

[Akanah]

There are three new sections here that still belong to the thread topic.

Genesis

In the beginning was the Word and the Word came from God.
God opened wide his upper and lower jaws and let his tongue appear in the middle.
In the beginning God began to speak and thereby created himself. This is a metaphor for the true event behind Genesis.
The true Genesis had been the embryo-genesis of a titanic great being.
This titanic-sized being lay for a long time as a thunderbolt-shaped embryonic germinal disk (gastrula) on a piece of earthly land in its implantation bed.
And when the time had come for the embryonic germinal disk to rise and enclose itself in an amniotic sac, huge mounds of earth first grew on both sides of the germinal disk as layers of amniotic sacs.
This was seen by mankind as the upper and lower jaws of God. And then, as the tongue of this god, the embryo appeared, lifted by a growing embryonic foot.
Because this event was accompanied by earthquakes that made a loud noise, God's word that came out of his mouth sounded like a loud trumpet sound.
This trumpet sound was heard as "Yahou" or "Yahuweh" and so the name of God "Yahweh" was born.

The heavenly land of God & Atlantis

The new Garden of Eden that was created during Genesis was then the enclosed embryo in the amniotic sac whose body was then divided into 4 sections. Its body was divided into head, chest, stomach and tail and also formed the island of Hyperborea with the 4 continents at the North Pole.
However, this north pole was actually the pole at the zenith because the embryo had been raised to the sky.
As a result, this embryo automatically became the North Star and the polar sun Saturn/Ra.
And since this embryo had been enclosed by many amnion rings, it was also the true Atlantis with the multiple ring system.
The true Atlantean ocean was indeed, as Dieter Bremer already suspected, the ocean or space above the Earth's atmosphere.

The great supernova explosion with the Deluge and the world fire

People in ancient times once saw their ancient sun Saturn/Ra explode in a supernova. This supernova released a very large solar storm that caused a great world flood and a great world fire. In the end, a small star core remained (as a future new egg-cell for a new titanic being).
According to the Egyptian myth of the world fire, the sun god Ra had grown old and died. After his death, his daughter Sakhmet appeared and came down to earth to burn her. The cobra snake on the sun god Ra is also a symbol for his daughter.
Ra's daughter was identical to the comet Venus, which was born as a large celestial dragon and came down to earth to flood and burn it.
The great supernova explosion of ancient times did not in fact correspond to the death of the sun god Saturn/Ra, but to his birth.
The lion goddess Sakhmet or comet Venus was the planetary-sized fully developed being that hatched from the world egg. At its birth, the being first ascended very high into the sky. This is why the term "cometary ascent" exists.
And then this being was drawn back down to the horizon as a great comet, so that as Comet Venus and Morning Star Lucifer "he should never again seduce the human nations".

However, according to ancient records, this great comet Venus supposedly reappeared every 52 years and brought great changes to the world. Immanuel Velikovsky found out that even in the 20th century, mankind still started great wars every 26 - 52 years because their subconscious was in a panic about the reappearance of Venus. Immanuel Velikovsky believed that Venus was now a planet and could never again afflict humanity. But this seems to be a misinterpretation due to a flawed materialistic worldview. I suspect that modern scientists have simply named some celestial body Venus that is not the real Venus. And I suspect that this planetary-sized being could still reincarnate every 52 years, first as Saturn through Genesis and then as Venus during a new Flood or world fire. I believe that the world elite have been panicking for a few years because they know that everything will repeat itself.

A man named Christian Köhlert published the book "The Phoenix Hypothesis" last year in 2023, which deals with cyclical world events that could be expected by the world elite. He believes that many political war maneuvers of recent years could be preparations or distractions from another coming cataclysmic world event.

 

[Akanah]

Something personal that occurred to me: As a child in the 90s, I had this kind of mania for a long time of often wanting to see or paint the motif of a setting sun behind a sea with palm trees in the foreground.
I even had puzzles with this motif.
Well, when I thought of it again today, it occurred to me that this motif is possibly an archetype for the Saturn sun standing on the lighten world mountain in a sea and being enclosed by palm-walls. In this motif, the palm trees represent the amnion walls that form around the Saturn sun. I suspect that this motif in people's memory could be a trauma-relieving variant of the brain to process this event when one has experienced it oneself or when the collective remembers having experienced it.
This motif is similar to the romantic pictures painted after the Krakatau eruption of 1883.
People seem to like to paint when they are trying to process a trauma. This could also explain cave paintings.

Could Edvard Munch's sun painting perhaps also be a variant of the trauma motif? This image could have been misunderstood by modern people as a normal sunrise. The sloping mountains on the side look very much like ramparts and the glow of light under the sun again stands for the illuminated world mountain.

For a while I was occupied with Ludwig Meidner's apocalyptic images from 1912/1913. Today his pictures are interpreted as images of fear of the next world war, but his pictures are far too based on major earth changes such as: Earthquakes, earth shifts and major floods and not the dropping of a human world war bomb.
Ludwig Meidner originally came from Poland (Breslau) and this place lies exactly on the thunderbolt-like structure in Central Europe that could perhaps be the new Saturnian embryo. It is possible that Ludwig Meidner was painting his view of the trauma that he could have experienced directly or indirectly through collective inheritance.

 

[Akanah]

Hindu god and the apocalypse in relation to Saturn/Venus

A few days ago it occurred to me that the planetary god actually has a twin nature.
The Thunderboltsproject split this deity into Saturn and Venus, with Saturn being identical to Satan and Venus being identical to Lucifer.
The Mayans and Aztecs told the story of the two divine brothers Xoltl (great dark twin) and Quetzalcoatl (precious twin).
The Hopi Indians also knew two brothers from the original time of creation who were called red Katchina and blue Katchina.

You can see that there is a lot to the twin theory when you look at the Hindu image of the god Vishnu, for example, from whose navel Bahma grows in a lotus flower. At the same time, Vishnu is lying in a bed and a 7-headed snake is growing behind his head.
What role his wife plays in this is not yet entirely clear.

But the image is also found in a similar way in the Revelation of St John, but there it speaks of a pregnant woman who is threatened by a 7-headed dragon (apocalyptic beast) while she then gives birth to her son as the radiant Messiah and Morning Star.
The woman giving birth was later reinterpreted as the Whore of Babylon.The apocalyptic beast then falls to earth and brings a great flood.
In the picture below, the crown/corona of the harlot possibly stands for the morning star.

The divine mother seems to be identical with the reclining Vishnu and her born child Jesus with Brahma growing out of the navel.
Now the divine mother in the red robe could be the great embryo lying and resting in its implantation bed.
Her child born from the navel in the white robe and this could be a smaller emrbyonic twin growing out of her.

The apocalyptic beast with the 7 heads could be 7 layers of amniotic sacs growing around the divine mother and enclosing her with her child after the amniotic fluid has been formed.
In this case, however, the child would receive its own amniotic sac, so that one could ultimately say that the smaller twin in its amniotic sac would sit inside the larger embryo in its larger amniotic sac.

Together they would form a twin planetary god with the divine mother as the origin red sun named Ra, and her child which would perhaps be the morning star/pole star or the Egyptian lion goddess Sekhmet.

In the final analysis, this meant that when the last large planetary embryo was lifted into the sky, another embryo was lifted together with it, which was smaller and brighter. When both embryos finally hatched, the large embryo would not have sunk far to the earth, but the smaller embryo would have fallen from the greatest height down to the earth and so this is how the story could came out about the fallen angel Lucifer.

The whole thing also explains very well why Satan and Lucifer are not identical, even though they are often equated today.
Satan was the 7-headed dragon as the 7 amniotic sacs grew into the sky and then came down to enclose both embryos.
Lucifer or Venus was the smaller embryonic twin.
The planetary god of Saturn was understood as the entirety of Satan, the divine mother and Lucifer.

 

[Akanah]

Swapped Christian festivals in relation to Saturn's life cycle ?
I have the suspicion that the birth and death of the planetary god Saturn have been completely swapped, at least in Christianity.
I see the event of the ascension of the Messiah/Pharaoh not as his soul ascending to heaven after death, but as the ascent of the just-born Saturn from his burst amniotic sac to heaven (of course with the side effect of the Deluge as a birth flood).
And I see Christmas with the Christmas comet as the descent, i.e. the descent of Saturn as a great comet.
Christmas therefore actually stands for the fall of Saturn from the heavens and its true death.

Of course, it makes a big difference whether you are sad at the sight of a man on the cross or whether you can rejoice at his liberating birth and his ascent. And it also makes a difference whether we sit together at Christmas to commemorate the dead Saturn or whether we give each other gifts in a shopping frenzy to distract ourselves from the dead Saturn.
I have the impression that Christianity has negated or reversed the true life cycle of Saturn.

In some spiritual circles there is a rumor that today's Christianity has nothing to do with the original Christianity and is rather a negation of the original Christianity in order to withhold truths from the majority of the population or to be able to confuse and control them well. In this respect, all world religions that have a similar concept to Christianity could work together. At a time when the last Saturn is no longer alive and the last golden age has come to an end, it is probably easy to sell lies and distort truths.