Novaya Zemlya: Russians Hiding the Remnants of the Old World?

[Quiahuitl]

This is all very interesting. There's the Mare Septentrionalis in 1576 and most of North America is marked Septentrionalis around this time and onwards for a century or more at least into the 1600s and on into the 1700s if memory serves.

Septentrionalis means seven tribunals in Latin so there's a theory this was the name of a legal jurisdiction or empire. Or maybe a trading empire. Or even just a banking and justice system within which fair trade was possible.

I checked the Latin and trionalis means every three years - triennial. 'Tribunal' is actually a Latin word that we still use unchanged in modern English. I wonder if this is the opposite of our system of Babylonian debt slavery - a trading system in which every debt must be cleared within three years so the accumulation of 90% of everything into a few hands wasn't possible.

There appear to have been WMDs used in the Tartaria region around 1816, see this thread Destruction of Tartaria

And maps stopped showing Tartaria some time after that. There's also a Scythian ocean, other forum members seem to know more about the Scythians than I do.

 

[Starfire]

This is all very interesting. There's the Mare Septentrionalis in 1576 and most of North America is marked Septentrionalis around this time and onwards for a century or more at least into the 1600s and on into the 1700s if memory serves.

Septentrionalis means seven tribunals in Latin so there's a theory this was the name of a legal jurisdiction or empire. Or maybe a trading empire. Or even just a banking and justice system within which fair trade was possible.

I checked the Latin and trionalis means every three years - triennial. 'Tribunal' is actually a Latin word that we still use unchanged in modern English. I wonder if this is the opposite of our system of Babylonian debt slavery - a trading system in which every debt must be cleared within three years so the accumulation of 90% of everything into a few hands wasn't possible.

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There appear to have been WMDs used in the Tartaria region around 1816, see this thread Destruction of Tartaria

And maps stopped showing Tartaria some time after that. There's also a Scythian ocean, other forum members seem to know more about the Scythians than I do.

I looked into septentrionalis myself when I saw it. The cartographers claim it means North. Like North Sea and North America.

But I like your breakdown a lot more. Perhaps seven areas/local governments overseen by a central government with elections every three years?

Also regarding debt forgiveness, you probably already know about Jubilee Years including debt forgiveness. It's the 50th year after 7 years x 7 years=49 years.

I highly recommend reading and/or listening to The Book of Jubilees. It is probably the source material that Genesis is the summary of.

Here's a good reading with follow along words:

View: https://youtu.be/V-55RSyJoB4

 

[Nick Weech]

If the biggest bomb ever detonated was in 1961, how are people able to live there less than 60 years later? And does anyone else feel like we're being herded into smaller and smaller pens? Can't go to Antarctica (south), can't go to novaya zemlya (north); parts of China and Alaska are forbidden zones as well as anything off trail of national parks. If there was some global catastrophe/reset 200-300 years ago, there can't have been time to destroy/cover up all the evidence of a global civilization while still trying to rebuild and create a new narrative.

During nuclear weapon testing or exploding, all energy/radiation is released instantaneously. That is why they are so devastating. After that, radiation level drops rapidly and in a few years it is safe to return to the area. That is why people can live in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In contrast to this, nuclear power plants disasters in Chernobyl and Fukushima are more dangerous in long run because radiation is released slowly, and at high levels. This could continue for hundreds of years.

It is just remotely possible that there's another reason why areas could be repopulated so "soon" after the said events happened ...

 

[Whitewave]

It is just remotely possible that there's another reason why areas could be repopulated so "soon" after the said events happened ...

Care to elaborate/postulate your theories?

 

[Nick Weech]

Care to elaborate/postulate your theories?

Nuclear fallout basically

Nuclear fallout basically

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxNT2SR5Lnw


Simply educational and recreational purposes of course, in my opinion

 

[Starfire]

This is all very interesting. There's the Mare Septentrionalis in 1576 and most of North America is marked Septentrionalis around this time and onwards for a century or more at least into the 1600s and on into the 1700s if memory serves.

Septentrionalis means seven tribunals in Latin so there's a theory this was the name of a legal jurisdiction or empire. Or maybe a trading empire. Or even just a banking and justice system within which fair trade was possible.

I checked the Latin and trionalis means every three years - triennial. 'Tribunal' is actually a Latin word that we still use unchanged in modern English. I wonder if this is the opposite of our system of Babylonian debt slavery - a trading system in which every debt must be cleared within three years so the accumulation of 90% of everything into a few hands wasn't possible.

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There appear to have been WMDs used in the Tartaria region around 1816, see this thread Destruction of Tartaria

And maps stopped showing Tartaria some time after that. There's also a Scythian ocean, other forum members seem to know more about the Scythians than I do.

Another thought about the trionalis part of Septentrionalis. I was looking over a lot of threads of suspicious older buildings in America. Many of them were "torn down and rebuilt" (updated/remodeled) instead of being completely demolished or set on fire. Like the Netherland Hotel that was sheathed and enlarged to become the Sherry Netherland Hotel.
When a building was updated like this, very often the sets of three arched windows and doors were removed and made square and sets of two. One poster thought this was to change the harmony of the area. It may have been. But I think it also was a domineering power play against the Old World Trionalis.

 

[Starfire]

I came back to this thread to update with a new map regarding Zemla. Now that I have reread this thread, I had forgotten that it was currently discussing Septentrionalis. The map is even more relevant!

Apparently, the Septentrionalis thing intrigued me enough to start a thread about it one month after my last post here:

Thread 'Native American Nations and Septentrionalis' Native American Nations and Septentrionalis

Anyway, the map I mentioned is the subject of this thread:

Thread 'Mappe Monde Celeste Terrestre et Historique 1787' Mappe Monde Celeste Terrestre et Historique 1787

There are at least two versions of this map, as it was first created in 1688, then added to and revised over the years. The most famous version was released in 1786 and had the geography that Captain Cook and other explorers added to the knowledge base. This last version also had a lower section added with world history, religion, geography, culture, etc. Basically an almanac on a map to promote the newly decided on narrative.

Here's the 1688 version and a link to a better copy:

https://www.ign.es/web/BibliotecaIGN/12-L-15_01.jpg

With Novaya Zemla not connected:

And the 1786 version with all the latest updated information from the explorers. They have many voyages drawn in and have the stories and busts of the key explorers at the bottom of the document.

With Novaya Zemla fully connected:

The later mapmaker must have gotten some kind of intel

According to KD in the OP:

• Dutch explorer Willem Barentsz reached the west coast of Novaya Zemlya in 1594, and in a subsequent expedition of 1596, he rounded the northern cape and wintered on the northeastern coast...
• During a later voyage by Fyodor Litke in 1821–1824, the western coast was mapped...
• The islands were systematically surveyed by Pyotr Pakhtusov and Avgust Tsivolko during the early 1830s...

So it would have been "in the 1830's" when the determination was FINALLY made that Zemla was an island group and not a promontory. This date is very close to the 1840's date that is proposed for that last major cataclysm in the north. Could Zemla have been a promontory until then, and become islands as a result of the cataclysm? The land could have been broken up. Or flooding could have filled in the low lying lake area, and joined the lake to the sea.

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There is a question in the OP I think I can answer. KD posted all those images of canal or bridge type structures all over Zemla, but especially the northern parts. I examined them myself on Google earth and looked at the coasts around the other Arctic lands. I feel that these are ice bridges that have formed across the openings of inlets. They were not broken up by the movements of indigenous peoples and traders because the islands are off limits.

 

[Tomkat]

If the biggest bomb ever detonated was in 1961, how are people able to live there less than 60 years later? And does anyone else feel like we're being herded into smaller and smaller pens? Can't go to Antarctica (south), can't go to novaya zemlya (north); parts of China and Alaska are forbidden zones as well as anything off trail of national parks. If there was some global catastrophe/reset 200-300 years ago, there can't have been time to destroy/cover up all the evidence of a global civilization while still trying to rebuild and create a new narrative.

I tend to feel the same...and when it just doesn't add up to me I start theorizing that there was 'old tech' along the lines of some type of AI that has been used to essentially concoct a false history that somehow loosely holds together....like, the notion of all of this deception being perpetrated by boots on the ground in such a compressed time just don't buy it.....but with the limited time we've had rudimentary AI like chatgtp and how scary capable they are makes go 'hmmmmm.....'....