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[codis]

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Date: 2019-10-31 11:25:08
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There used to be these hand warmers, they were little plastic bags containing a gel and a small metal disc. When you bent the disc sharply, it made a snap sound that caused the gel to crystalize and heat up. It would stay hot for hours. Then you could soak it in boiling water and it would liquefy again.

The thought of that happening in a human body is pretty terrifying, especially if the person was still alive.

Most of those bags contain, AFAIK, an ammonium nitrate solution. This salt has several stable crystal configurations depending on themperature (looking it up: -16.8 °C (α), 32.3 °C (β), 84.2 °C (γ), 125.2 °C (δ)). Recrystallisation from one configuration to another requires or releases heat, the effect used for the hand warmers - especiall the one from the γ (after boiling) to the β configuration. This property has prevented a large-scale military use of AN based explosives/propellants, because it seriously limits the shelf life of finished products.
Another thing coming into play (citing from memory), the bags contain a super-saturated solution. the bending of the internal disc triggers crystalization. Perhpas someone can correct my superficial knowledge here.
My point - I see this highly improbable to happen to the live human body.

 

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Date: 2019-10-31 12:55:55
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Boy (and girl), but we love some DARKNESS. Calls to us even. Cthulu.
Fancy wild imaginations. Kudos.
How about casting a mold around a body, then liquifying or vaporizing the body, then pouring in the faux marble?...
Hm? Any takers?...
But I can GUARANTEE to you, there's NOBODY in there. And definitely not consciously. But you COULD send your own little consciousness out to investigate. There are ways...

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PLUS, sickos, if you did that to a LIVE human, you wouldn't get such beautific poses and expressions.
Amazing what truly dedicated artists with a PASSION can accomplish. Especially when you make sacrifices for the ART.

 

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Username: teokenny
Date: 2019-10-31 17:09:30
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What kind of sacrifices? human?
And in another text that seemed like a story, I read that the 2 machines are failed resuscitation experiments. And he also said that the man - the one without eyes - was a dwarf ... I didn't find photos with the 2 together to make a comparison. There had to be a detailed description in the "giornale sicolo scienze mediche 1830" written by G. Gorgone..Gorgone?? I couldn't find it, maybe you can?

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2019-10-31 18:35:50
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Ask Ed Leedskalnin about sacrifice. PASSION. Dedication and FOCUS. Ya gotta LOVE it

 

[HollyHoly]

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Date: 2019-10-31 19:58:26
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Kind of makes ya wonder about chemtrails don't it?

chemtrails dont even want to be chemtrails

 

[Dielectric]

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Date: 2019-11-01 11:07:51
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Boy (and girl), but we love some DARKNESS. Calls to us even. Cthulu.
Fancy wild imaginations. Kudos.

Is it about loving darkness, or is it about losing your virginity, losing the cow eyes?

How about casting a mold around a body, then liquifying or vaporizing the body, then pouring in the faux marble?...
Hm? Any takers?...

In my first post I said this was my first thought; casting with geopolymer. I don't think you could vaporize a body because bones are too hard. You could theoretically dissolve them, or there is another lost technique involved in such a thing.

Body casting is undoubtedly an ancient trade craft but also undoubtedly used techniques and materials which we have lost.

But I can GUARANTEE to you, there's NOBODY in there. And definitely not consciously. But you COULD send your own little consciousness out to investigate. There are ways...

I guarantee that after about six months with the coroners office you will have a different opinion as to what is and is not possible.

PLUS, sickos, if you did that to a LIVE human, you wouldn't get such beautific poses and expressions.
Amazing what truly dedicated artists with a PASSION can accomplish. Especially when you make sacrifices for the ART.

Posing people, changing their expressions, changing their clothes, carving them up, these are commonalities shared with murders of all kinds, especially with serial killers or with other murders whom want to send a message, and all of which begs the question if they have to be alive to get the results?

 

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Username: JLMetro
Date: 2019-11-02 22:41:34
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Is it about loving darkness, or is it about losing your virginity, losing the cow eyes?



In my first post I said this was my first thought; casting with geopolymer. I don't think you could vaporize a body because bones are too hard. You could theoretically dissolve them, or there is another lost technique involved in such a thing.

Body casting is undoubtedly an ancient trade craft but also undoubtedly used techniques and materials which we have lost.




I guarantee that after about six months with the coroners office you will have a different opinion as to what is and is not possible.



Posing people, changing their expressions, changing their clothes, carving them up, these are commonalities shared with murders of all kinds, especially with serial killers or with other murders whom want to send a message, and all of which begs the question if they have to be alive to get the results?

Yes, I agree. What if they were alive? There is something poignant in their expressions. What if they knew they were turning to stone?

The artist could be coaching them in their last moments on how to pose.

It's for posterity, he would say. Don't you want people to know? If you don't give me a good pose I'll just trash it. No one will ever even know what happened to you.

 

[Verity]

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Date: 2019-11-03 10:57:03
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Not sure why death/murder comes in to it. Sounds too fanciful, although I guess it shouldn't be dismissed just because of that.
I'm no more clued up than anyone else about how it was done other than 3-D printing and geopolymers, the latter being the most likely imho.
The detail is stunning. So much money has been poured in to 3-D tech./geopolymers today, and the people behind the New World are trying to recreate lost technologies.

I've been obsessed with the net figures since I first saw it a few years ago. To me it's the gold standard of that particular art form. That and the eyelashes of the boy at the cemetery in Italy somewhere- Turin? Milano? Forgotten the exact place.


This is close enough to what I was thinking, can't find the boy. However they did it it was one heck of a technology to be so very perfect, but the perfection alone would ensure nothing as grim as death was used to achieve such beauty- it wouldn't make any sense. A culture capable of this quality illustrates the very fact that life is respected.

 

[HollyHoly]

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Date: 2019-11-03 16:44:13
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Not sure why death/murder comes in to it. Sounds too fanciful, although I guess it shouldn't be dismissed just because of that.
I'm no more clued up than anyone else about how it was done other than 3-D printing and geopolymers, the latter being the most likely imho.
The detail is stunning. So much money has been poured in to 3-D tech./geopolymers today, and the people behind the New World are trying to recreate lost technologies.

I've been obsessed with the net figures since I first saw it a few years ago. To me it's the gold standard of that particular art form. That and the eyelashes of the boy at the cemetery in Italy somewhere- Turin? Milano? Forgotten the exact place.
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This is close enough to what I was thinking, can't find the boy. However they did it it was one heck of a technology to be so very perfect, but the perfection alone would ensure nothing as grim as death was used to achieve such beauty- it wouldn't make any sense. A culture capable of this quality illustrates the very fact that life is respected.

except our boy was an alchemist who killed his two servants to make the 'machines' including a fetus, and he collected pretty boy children castrated them to build his own choir. If he was so life affirming why was he widely hated by his contemporaries. There are many accounts of people seeking to preserve the body to achieve after life. They could be experiments in mummification, not all some. I dont know for sure but no one knows how this was done. Not saying there aren't artists today producing mysterious stupefying works of art there are.

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2019-11-03 17:02:39
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Maybe go bite into one and SEE

 

[HollyHoly]

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Date: 2019-11-03 17:40:54
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Maybe go bite into one and SEE

something like that, good catch!

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2019-11-03 17:44:15
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I've got the gift of free association.

 

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Date: 2019-11-03 21:42:04
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yeah its more a matter of artistic focus, these days we aren't so obsessed with every stitch on a garment being rendered with 100% accuracy

That is very odd looking but remarkable, could you tell me what this one's called? Thanks.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-11-03 23:10:12
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Yes, I agree. What if they were alive? There is something poignant in their expressions. What if they knew they were turning to stone?

The artist could be coaching them in their last moments on how to pose.

It's for posterity, he would say. Don't you want people to know? If you don't give me a good pose I'll just trash it. No one will ever even know what happened to you.

 

[Verity]

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Date: 2019-11-04 05:21:52
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I know some soulless freaks are out misinterpreting the fine art of alchemy in all matter of insane ways. Nothing is impossible, but things like 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe' are still considered fiction. Oh- I'm starting to sound like a boomer.

Many of the subjects dealt with in magic media are metaphoric rather than literal.
Certain tribes have names of precious stones; Diamond, Stone, Rubin in German is Ruby etc. Using these ideas I could see why they'd want us all as stone, in fact I just google translated the German '-stein' on a hunch and it translates to '-stone'.
So turning us all to stone could be meant in various ways.
I read through ELO's 'Turn to Stone' lyrics for example, and it made me think of the sensation of a stone cold heart because the significant other left him. There are popular films for children about this very thing, dirty Disney's 'Frozen' being the first to come to mind.
Grief does this to people, it sort of chills the heart, makes the blood sticky. I posted about a scan showing this very phenomenon just recently, can't remember which thread.
All of this doesn't mean there wasn't some sort of trippy 'mummification' process, but to my mind it still maintains a hard-to-explain fine art technological bent, like this process;

 

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Date: 2019-11-04 13:14:49
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I KNOW what y'all are gonna say... She's one of "THEM", but that doesn't mean she's ALL bad

 

[HollyHoly]

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I know some soulless freaks are out misinterpreting the fine art of alchemy in all matter of insane ways. Nothing is impossible, but things like 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe' are still considered fiction. Oh- I'm starting to sound like a boomer.

Many of the subjects dealt with in magic media are metaphoric rather than literal.
Certain tribes have names of precious stones; Diamond, Stone, Rubin in German is Ruby etc. Using these ideas I could see why they'd want us all as stone, in fact I just google translated the German '-stein' on a hunch and it translates to '-stone'.
So turning us all to stone could be meant in various ways.
I read through ELO's 'Turn to Stone' lyrics for example, and it made me think of the sensation of a stone cold heart because the significant other left him. There are popular films for children about this very thing, dirty Disney's 'Frozen' being the first to come to mind.
Grief does this to people, it sort of chills the heart, makes the blood sticky. I posted about a scan showing this very phenomenon just recently, can't remember which thread.
All of this doesn't mean there wasn't some sort of trippy 'mummification' process, but to my mind it still maintains a hard-to-explain fine art technological bent, like this process;

I never entertained the idea until recently I was of your opinion,still am somewhat but that there is some method of doing this I kinda think so . I guess it can happen randomly??







But hey Im not trying to be " watch out or you'll be turned to stone by maniacs girl." I think some certain of these statues are this. but by no means all. I think its just more 'evil stuff they" do .

 

[Verity]

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I never entertained the idea until recently I was of your opinion,still am somewhat but that there is some method of doing this I kinda think so . I guess it can happen randomly?? View attachment 33545







But hey Im not trying to be " watch out or you'll be turned to stone by maniacs girl." I think some certain of these statues are this. but by no means all. I think its just more 'evil stuff they" do .

Still not convinced, but it does remind me of a thread somewhere in here about modern fossilisation. It was a pair of cowboy boots or something in the Australian outback turned to stone in a short period of time, like 2-7 years or something.
Then there's Pompeii which fills everyone with a freakish sense on viewing the bodies recast in plaster of paris.
Oh hey- 'Whoa maaaan, I'm so fu*king stoned right now I can hardly moooove".
Or even the biblical or middle-eastern 'stoned' to death.
All old references to being turned to stone? Who knows. Maybe you're right.
What stops me from buying the idea is of the fabric or eyelashes being 'stoned' and feathers being 'stoned'.
How in tarnation did they do the blasted ROPE AND EYELASHES.

I might look up stone...
What you'd expect, but this sort of piques my interest. Pretty recently referring to 'The Stone Age'...;

First Known Use of 'Stone Age'

Noun

1844, in the meaning defined at sense 1

So here is sense 1;


Stone Age
noun

Definition of Stone Age
(Entry 1 of 2)
1: the first known period of prehistoric human culture characterized by the use of stone tools— compare MESOLITHIC, NEOLITHIC, PALEOLITHIC
2: a stage in a human institution or field of endeavor regarded as primitive, outmoded, or obsolete.
'The Stone Age of information handling before computers.'


I might have mused on this before, but I'll put it out there again anyway. I think our contemporary idea of 'the stone age' was reinvented recently as a paleolithic era of men in cougar-skin loin cloths, whereas 'The [genuine] Stone Age' was in fact when man had mastered the art of stone in statues like these, and in rock face carving/manipulation... Basically glossing over the absolute majesty of mans historic achievements with "Oh yeah, stone age neanderthals with flint-knapped arrowheads, budget ancestors fo'sure. Now we are sooo smart."

The original stone or marble-looking statues were pretty massive, possibly to the scale of the men who made them?

Even if we take the idea that they were originally living men and the White Witch of Narnia had a means of transducing living men in to stone figures, it still suggests to me that the origins of this technology could be not just older but (bizarrely, conversely) more recent too, and adopted from the giants.



(Image from here; Sperlonga sculptures - Wikipedia )

 

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[HollyHoly]

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Still not convinced, but it does remind me of a thread somewhere in here about modern fossilisation. It was a pair of cowboy boots or something in the Australian outback turned to stone in a short period of time, like 2-7 years or something.
Then there's Pompeii which fills everyone with a freakish sense on viewing the bodies recast in plaster of paris.
Oh hey- 'Whoa maaaan, I'm so fu*king stoned right now I can hardly moooove".
Or even the biblical or middle-eastern 'stoned' to death.
All old references to being turned to stone? Who knows. Maybe you're right.
What stops me from buying the idea is of the fabric or eyelashes being 'stoned' and feathers being 'stoned'.
How in tarnation did they do the blasted ROPE AND EYELASHES.

I might look up stone...
What you'd expect, but this sort of piques my interest. Pretty recently referring to 'The Stone Age'...;

First Known Use of 'Stone Age'

Noun

1844, in the meaning defined at sense 1

So here is sense 1;


Stone Age
noun

Definition of Stone Age
(Entry 1 of 2)
1: the first known period of prehistoric human culture characterized by the use of stone tools— compare MESOLITHIC, NEOLITHIC, PALEOLITHIC
2: a stage in a human institution or field of endeavor regarded as primitive, outmoded, or obsolete.
'The Stone Age of information handling before computers.'


I might have mused on this before, but I'll put it out there again anyway. I think our contemporary idea of 'the stone age' was reinvented recently as a paleolithic era of men in cougar-skin loin cloths, whereas 'The [genuine] Stone Age' was in fact when man had mastered the art of stone in statues like these, and in rock face carving/manipulation... Basically glossing over the absolute majesty of mans historic achievements with "Oh yeah, stone age neanderthals with flint-knapped arrowheads, budget ancestors fo'sure. Now we are sooo smart."

The original stone or marble-looking statues were pretty massive, possibly to the scale of the men who made them?

Even if we take the idea that they were originally living men and the White Witch of Narnia had a means of transducing living men in to stone figures, it still suggests to me that the origins of this technology could be not just older but (bizarrely, conversely) more recent too, and adopted from the giants.

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(Image from here; Sperlonga sculptures - Wikipedia )

I really like a lot of what you said I don't by any kind of these BS timelines such as divisions of ages like Stone Age and then miraculously EVERYONE jumped on board for the Copper then bronze somehow glass happened pottery 'evolved' from baskets . I'm all on board with your "stone age" indicating a high level of stone 'tech" and just to be clear I don't think every magnificent stone statue was once a living person or whatever. I don't for minute buy the timelines given all neat and tidy sliding seamlessly from one predominant tech to another worldwide like most textbooks would portray. I think you're right about the tech being more recent , I still think there is a method for doing it to living things and if the rest of your argument hold true then super stone tech could very well include stonifying some people, could have. I mean what would stone wizards do with their honored dead? It seems to be a characteristic of the the controllers to memorialize everything with statuary and they don't like to be forgotten I think that much is clear. I don't know if this happened I merely entertain that in certain cases this is possible. This Raimondo fiend was obsessed with altering everything on a molecular level. He had no conscience about anything. He felt free to do whatever he wanted to whomever he wanted so you put those things together and you get what we see every time mad scientists get unlimited freedom and money to carry out their idiot fantasies and he destroyed all his data before his death so he wanted to cover something up

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so if some these are real people how about the left eye on this one ??I mean if you are going to make a gorgeous angel why have one of its eyes injured /swollen possibly /missing. looking like a fresh injury??? ummm?