Reality Check - Part 1 (Video)

[Quiahuitl]

I'm using machine translation.

In Japan too, we are taught that there was a impossible building rush from the end of the 19th century to the 20th century.
I am one more wiser to know that the Chicago Fire was started by a lantern in a cow shed.
Next step, I have to look for records that cow feed at that time was TNT.

To be funny via machine translation is a great skill!

 

[Akanah]

It is true that today's mudslide events and soil liquefaction make houses look crooked and not straight. And it is also true that in the past underground floors may have been built to hide the servants. But what needs an explanation are various temple structures that look like they are carved in stone. Either laser technology was used in the past to carve entire temples out of stone, or these temples were buried and fossilized by rock deposits after large floods or lava events. Another possibility would be a biogeological cause by the growth of new layers of earth around such temples or the incorporation of the building fabric of these temples.

 

[Quiahuitl]

But what needs an explanation are various temple structures that look like they are carved in stone. Either laser technology was used in the past to carve entire temples out of stone, or these temples were buried and fossilized by rock deposits after large floods or lava events. Another possibility would be a biogeological cause by the growth of new layers of earth around such temples or the incorporation of the building fabric of these temples.

Another possibility is that people used to have a type of concrete that looks like stone to us. The large pieces of stone were not carved, they were cast. I also think they used a stone softening technology in ancient Egypt and also in Peru. Stones were softened, put into place then they settled. This would explain why the stones in those ancient structures fit so tightly together (without mortar) that even water can't get into the cracks.

This photo takes it to a new level. You can see how the stone was softened and worked. Unless you want to believe it was carved of course.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXXQ5SE9RN4&ab_channel=CoolGuitarGear

 

[Akanah]

Another fact regarding the rapid change of housing from Art Nouveau buildings to more modern buildings, even without the mud flood event: In Germany, people like to claim that we lived in new prefabricated buildings during the GDR era. In relation to my hometown of Chemnitz, this was not true at all. Most people lived in typical Art Nouveau buildings until the mid-90s, because we had had and still have a lot of these buildings. The few prefabricated buildings that were built in the middle of the 90s were given to poor families or old people who could not live in old people's homes. My family lived in an art nouveau building until 1993, when we were kicked out for no particular reason. Nowadays, many of these Art Nouveau buildings in my hometown are empty and people have been forced to move into modern houses. Basically, someone decided in the mid-90s to introduce a cultural change where many people had to leave the Art Nouveau buildings and move into uglier modern houses. The Art Nouveau buildings actually stand for the old times that had to be ended, for whatever reason. A flood event had had no relevance for leaving these Art Nouveau buildings because the apartment entrances had also been at normal street level.
It is possible that Art Nouveau buildings in the center of my hometown were deliberately destroyed, but not by a world war as we have been told.
Perhaps, however, there were at that time in other parts of the world large floods where Art Nouveau buildings had to be excavated and because one did not have on it so much desire, one explained the time of the "Art Nouveau" in the middle of the 90s simply for terminated.

 

[Truth Lover]

I think, that famous paranormal activities register Charles Fort recorded in his books, that ground fell from the sky.

I just remembered the pertainent ditties we always said/played as children. We ran around a LOT for years yelling:
• "The sky is falling! The sky is falling." (cataclysmic event)
• "Fee Fi Fo Fum, I smell the blood of an Englishmun." (cannibalistic giants)
• "London bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down. London bridge is falling down - my fair lady." ( a definite hint alluding to Something Fishy going on with the London Bridge)
Also prevalent was
• Jack and the Beanstalk. Jack climbed way up and there was a castle with giants, who had a lot of gold. Jack stole the goose and got free gold because the "Goose" kept laying golden eggs. (Giants had gold, someone stealing it, getting rich very easily)

 

[busy.baci]

Another possibility is that people used to have a type of concrete that looks like stone to us. The large pieces of stone were not carved, they were cast. I also think they used a stone softening technology in ancient Egypt and also in Peru. Stones were softened, put into place then they settled. This would explain why the stones in those ancient structures fit so tightly together (without mortar) that even water can't get into the cracks.

This photo takes it to a new level. You can see how the stone was softened and worked. Unless you want to believe it was carved of course.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXXQ5SE9RN4&ab_channel=CoolGuitarGear

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There is a high propability that that previous civilization did indeed use cast concrete and reinforced metallic rebars. I've followed Wise Up channel where he makes really good explanations and examples on how the old engineering style and technique is very much in the same way we construct today. Only they used stronger bonding materials different from cement and mortar. Some speculate about geo-polymers being used to cast a new type of concrete, which overtime through petrification turned into basalt and marble. He makes a really interesting take on massive polygonal walls.

 

[Quiahuitl]

There is a high propability that that previous civilization did indeed use cast concrete and reinforced metallic rebars. I've followed Wise Up channel where he makes really good explanations and examples on how the old engineering style and technique is very much in the same way we construct today. Only they used stronger bonding materials different from cement and mortar. Some speculate about geo-polymers being used to cast a new type of concrete, which overtime through petrification turned into basalt and marble. He makes a really interesting take on massive polygonal walls.

They had a technology that allowed them to soften stone, and also to harden concrete that looks like stone to us.

 

[busy.baci]

They had a technology that allowed them to soften stone, and also to harden concrete that looks like stone to us.

Yes, I saw the photos that looked like bend spaghetti. Fascinating indeed. I wonder how did they do it.

 

[iseidon]

There is a high propability that that previous civilization did indeed use cast concrete and reinforced metallic rebars. I've followed Wise Up channel where he makes really good explanations and examples on how the old engineering style and technique is very much in the same way we construct today. Only they used stronger bonding materials different from cement and mortar. Some speculate about geo-polymers being used to cast a new type of concrete, which overtime through petrification turned into basalt and marble. He makes a really interesting take on massive polygonal walls.

There is a Leaning tower (temple) in Nevyansk. According to the official version, it was built in the 18th century. This tower is interesting because it has a cast-iron reinforcing (rebars) frame.

According to my observations, there are quite a lot of such temples throughout Russia (Russian temples can be evaluated because many of them are in ruins and therefore all the insides can be seen).

There are Russian YouTube channels that drive through abandoned temple ruins and explore them. There you can often see the reinforcing frame all over the building.

There are ruins of an old dam in Yekaterinburg (rus; road-bridge Streetview). It has a strong metal frame that can be seen.

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[Truth Lover]

It is true that today's mudslide events and soil liquefaction make houses look crooked and not straight.

Yes and I think liquefaction is what happened due to the fact that the insides of the houses are not full of water as would be in Noah's Ark flood. People are not very biblically literate oh, but it clearly says that God said oh, sometime after the great flood, that I will shake the Earth and all the people will be missing and nobody will know what happened to them exactly or who they were exactly. So shaking the Earth would cause the liquefaction and the moving of soil as what happened apparently on Easter Island. The statues were covered up to their necks and the mountain behind them that has never shown very much in pictures, is totally bare of Earth. But the Earth is piled on to the statues.

Yes and I think liquefaction is what happened due to the fact that the insides of the houses are not full of water as would be in Noah's Ark flood. People are not very biblically literate, but it clearly says that God said, sometime after the great flood, that He will shake the Earth and the people will be missing and nobody will know what happened to them exactly or who they were exactly. So shaking the Earth would cause the liquefaction and the moving of soil as what happened apparently on Easter Island. The statues were covered up to their necks and the mountain behind them (that has not shown very much in pictures,) is totally bare of Earth. But the Earth is piled on to the statues.

 

[Seeker]

but it clearly says that God said oh, sometime after the great flood, that I will shake the Earth and all the people will be missing and nobody will know what happened to them exactly or who they were exactly

Where is this part, please?

 

[Truth Lover]

Where is this part, please?

I will let you know when I see it again. I've seen it many many times over the years.

 

[CatELyst]

The video is good it is informative and it shows great work but somehow the narration of it it's not flowing, it's interrupted many times without getting to the point of that part. The narrator himself did a great job. There are parts where text descriptions are rendered in Deutsch language which it makes it difficult for us who don't speak it.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next chapter.

Now it's speculation time.
What if the mud flood is the result and consequence of the great flood? What if the dirt and sand covering multiple buildings floors comes from the enormous quantity of the waters flowing violently over cities and thus moving large landmasses into them? After all, the level of the waters during that event were said to reach and submerge even the greatest and tallest mountains on earth.
And we know that Atlantis sank in a such event.

Are our cities remnants of Atlantis?

That would be way to speculative even for me. But I feel the urge to share this question.
My grandmother would be very happy to know the answer to it.

I wanted to quickly agree with you regarding this mudflood actually being THE FLOOD. Wouldn't that be mind blowing?? Knowing that the church was involved in rewriting history AND the Bible that we read today, it would make sense that they would throw the Flood back a few million years to cover their own tracks, when it fact it may have occurred only 2000 years ago? or earlier? Abraham was alive when Seth was, so would it be a stretch to believe that Noah was alive when Abraham was? I would love to see a timeline for their ages compared to world events that are proven, like this flood idea. Otherwise where are those great cities of Noah's time?

The video is good it is informative and it shows great work but somehow the narration of it it's not flowing, it's interrupted many times without getting to the point of that part. The narrator himself did a great job. There are parts where text descriptions are rendered in Deutsch language which it makes it difficult for us who don't speak it.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next chapter.

Now it's speculation time.
What if the mud flood is the result and consequence of the great flood? What if the dirt and sand covering multiple buildings floors comes from the enormous quantity of the waters flowing violently over cities and thus moving large landmasses into them? After all, the level of the waters during that event were said to reach and submerge even the greatest and tallest mountains on earth.
And we know that Atlantis sank in a such event.

Are our cities remnants of Atlantis?

That would be way to speculative even for me. But I feel the urge to share this question.
My grandmother would be very happy to know the answer to it.

I did see a few typos, but otherwise he did a great job. We could also use a good editor...lol. Maybe the urgency of getting the information to the rest of us was more important that fixing a few typos. I can relate...lol.

 

[busy.baci]

I wanted to quickly agree with you regarding this mudflood actually being THE FLOOD. Wouldn't that be mind blowing?? Knowing that the church was involved in rewriting history AND the Bible that we read today, it would make sense that they would throw the Flood back a few million years to cover their own tracks, when it fact it may have occurred only 2000 years ago? or earlier?

That's exactly what I was thinking. There is a general lack of interest regarding the great flood on this forum, I haven't been able to find a good thread examining it. And if someone is to logically try to make sense of it, it's not as unbelievable as the mud-flood is, which really I can't imagine in my head how might have happened. And the thread about the mud-flood is overly popular and widely well accepted, without any sort of written evidence or clue supporting it whatsoever.

The only book I've read which helped me picture the great flood and somehow understand the antediluvian world and what came after it, is this one right here.

 

[Truth Lover]

I don't know how to find the person that wanted to know the Bible verses about shaking the Earth. Here is one place: Isaiah 2:6 through the end of the chapter. Pretty self explanatory and pertinent. There are other verses, when I see them I will try to post.

Bible > WEB > Isaiah 2 ◄ Isaiah 2 ► World English Bible The Mountain of the Lord 1This is what Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2It shall happen in the latter days, that the mountain of Yahweh's house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be raised above the hills; and all nations shall flow to it. 3Many peoples shall go and say, "Come, let's go up to the mountain of Yahweh, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Zion the law shall go forth, and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem. 4He will judge between the nations, and will decide concerning many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 5House of Jacob, come, and let us walk in the light of Yahweh. The Day of the Reckoning 6For you have forsaken your people, the house of Jacob, because they are filled from the east, with those who practice divination like the Philistines, and they clasp hands with the children of foreigners. 7Their land is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures. Their land also is full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots. 8Their land also is full of idols. They worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made. 9Man is brought low, and mankind is humbled; therefore don't forgive them. 10Enter into the rock, and hide in the dust, from before the terror of Yahweh, and from the glory of his majesty. 11The lofty looks of man will be brought low, the haughtiness of men will be bowed down, and Yahweh alone will be exalted in that day. 12For there will be a day of Yahweh of Armies for all that is proud and haughty, and for all that is lifted up; and it shall be brought low: 13For all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, for all the oaks of Bashan, 14For all the high mountains, for all the hills that are lifted up, 15For every lofty tower, for every fortified wall, 16For all the ships of Tarshish, and for all pleasant imagery. 17The loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be brought low; and Yahweh alone shall be exalted in that day. 18The idols shall utterly pass away. 19Men shall go into the caves of the rocks, and into the holes of the earth, from before the terror of Yahweh, and from the glory of his majesty, when he arises to shake the earth mightily. 20In that day, men shall cast away their idols of silver, and their idols of gold, which have been made for themselves to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21To go into the caverns of the rocks, and into the clefts of the ragged rocks, from before the terror of Yahweh, and from the glory of his majesty, when he arises to shake the earth mightily. 22Stop trusting in man, whose breath is in his nostrils; for of what account is he? " Section Headings Courtesy BereanBible.com © 2013, 2014 Used by Permission Bibl​

Also Hebrews 12: 26 is from the New Testament, warning that is shaking was coming.

Verse 26. - Whose voice then shook the earth (see Exodus 19:18, "The whole mount quaked greatly," though there the LXX. has λαός instead of ὄρος: but cf. Judges 5, "The earth trembled," and Psalm 114:7, "Tremble, thou earth," etc., with reference to the phenomena at Sinai; also Habakkuk 3:6, 10): but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

 

[Seeker]

That was actually very helpful, thank you so much. I'm impressed with your recollection and knowledge of verses.

 

[Truth Lover]

Thnx, usually I just open my bible and there is a certain verse I need to see. Long ago I realized I can't remember where everything is. But I know there are certain themes that I have seen a lot during different sections of my life. The last couple years I keep seeing verses that say something like, " I'm going to shake the Earth and the stones are not going to fall off of one another." In other words the buildings are not going to collapse. So I'm pretty sure it already happened.

That was actually very helpful, thank you so much. I'm impressed with your recollection and knowledge of verses.

 

[asatiger1966]

Yes, I saw the photos that looked like bend spaghetti. Fascinating indeed. I wonder how did they do it.

About five years ago there was a post that stated , a certain leaf was boiled for the oil inside then they laid the leaves on the stone and it soften. Old SH site.

 

[busy.baci]

About five years ago there was a post that stated , a certain leaf was boiled for the oil inside then they laid the leaves on the stone and it soften. Old SH site.

Fascinating indeed. I wonder if that was some type of concrete mixing or something of the likes of it.

 

[trismegistus]

About five years ago there was a post that stated , a certain leaf was boiled for the oil inside then they laid the leaves on the stone and it soften. Old SH site.

SH Archive - Eleanor Coade: 19th century owner of a Geo-polymer recipe.

Perhaps it was in this thread? I haven't completely combed it but I can't remember many other archived threads on geopolymer.