Spain; History Repeating Itself - A Warning for Europe (Part Two)

[Deleted member 1432]

Continued from Part One...

Captain Ramsay’s book is a mine of information that covers much more than the Spanish Civil war, but what is reprinted here is sufficient for this article. It also covers the period following Franco’s victory and his thwarting of Russia’s plan for Cataluña. It’s a fascinating read that was written in a very different social atmosphere to ours.

Before leaving the Civil War period it’s worth noting that during the period of September through October 1936, the Spanish Republican government transferred approximately 500 tons of gold out of Spain. This represented the vast majority of Spain’s gold reserves. It was shipped in 10,000 wooden ammunition-type crates. 7,800 of these boxes were sent to Moscow and the remainder mostly to France. The value of the gold sent to Moscow alone is usually estimated at around 522 million dollars (1936 value.) On October the 15th Largo Caballero, president of the Republican government, sent this letter to the Soviet ambassador Rosenberg…

“In my capacity as President of the Council, I have taken the decision to ask you to propose to your government whether you would consent to a quantity of gold of approximately 500 tons being deposited in the People's Commissariat for Finances of the Soviet Union.”

A few days after the gold sailed away, 20 million dollars worth of silver departed having been sold to France and the United States of America. These estimates are probably very undervalued as much of the silver and gold was in the form of antique coins that were worth far more than their weight in gold or silver.

There is much confusion, speculation and misinformation regarding exactly where the gold ended up – apart from that which arrived in Moscow. What is a matter of record is that the Franco regime later tried to recover some of the gold. There are records of correspondence between them and banks in France and England. The gold that was sent to Moscow was claimed by the Russians as payment for military aid during the Spanish revolution. There is also speculation regarding a bank in Mexico as another recipient.

The point regarding this is that after the Civil War, Franco’s regime had no gold reserves. The fleeing Republicans had looted many works of art from the Prado Museum and Spain’s treasury was empty, her only allies were public enemies numbers one and two – Hitler and Mussolini. After the second World War the Americans punished Spain by excluding it from the Marshall Plan. The United Nations would not invite Spain to join. The whole world turned against Franco and yet during his regime no one paid income tax, he instigated a comprehensive system of social security, built 550 reservoirs, restored Spain’s industrial base, banned freemasonry and provided state subsidised housing, among other achievements, but he was never accused of gassing 6 million Jews.

It will probably come as a shock to many people to hear that the Spanish Civil War wasn’t quite what they thought it was. I include the Spanish themselves in that group as there has been so much distortion of Spanish history by the media and the Spanish government. The current PSOE administration seem hell bent on some kind of post-mortem vengeance against everything associated with Franco, even his body was exhumed from the Valle de Los Caidos, which is a monument to the fallen of all parties involved in the Civil War – even though his corpse had been placed there by order of the King and against Franco’s own wishes. There’s also a continuing agenda to demolish of all the reservoirs Franco built to ensure a consistent and adequate water supply throughout the country. That may also be part of another climate related agenda.

Milton Wolff was a Jewish member of the American International Brigade who fought with the Republicans
under the name of the ‘Lincoln Battalion.’ Two years after his return to the USA and in spite of his Communist sympathies,
he was responsible for transforming the American intelligence services into the CIA.
Perhaps this was a copy of the Comintern Cheka secret police or maybe it was simply the
Communist International of America? Source​

There was a parliamentary election held in July 2023. there was no clear winner. Sanchez remained in office in what was meant to be a ‘caretaker’ role, but instead he continued his dictatorship as usual. What was needed was a change of allegiances to produce a clear majority for either Sanchez or Feijóo, the leader of the PP. This was problematic for Sanchez who’s arrogant, narsissitic, megalomaniac style of leadership is to insult and alienate as many people as possible. The PP candidate couldn’t raise enough support so Sanchez went to the King and demanded to be named as president. The King had him thrown out of the Royal Palace.

Back in February 1936 the Republican government passed an Amnesty Law. This also implies indemnity from future prosecution as well as pardoning of past crimes. This law pardoned and indemnified all of the Republican officials who had been involved in crimes, including assassination.

Another Amnesty Law was passed in 1977 to cover the Civil War and the period of the Franco regime. This was part of the so-called ‘Pact of Forgetting’ whereby politicians of all parties agreed not to investigate or prosecute alleged human rights violations committed during those periods by either faction.

However, last year, 2022, the Sanchez government created the Democratic Memory Law. It’s objective was “the recovery, safeguarding and dissemination of democratic memory, understood as knowledge of the vindication and defence of democratic values and fundamental rights and freedoms throughout the contemporary history of Spain in order to promote cohesion and solidarity between the various generations around constitutional principles, values and freedoms. Likewise, it is the object of the law to recognize those who suffered persecution or violence, for political, ideological reasons, thought or opinion, conscience or religious belief, sexual orientation and identity, during the period between July 18 of 1936 , the Spanish War and the Franco Dictatorship until the entry into force of the Spanish Constitution of 1978."

This barrage of words is a smoke and mirrors trick. What it covers up is the complete redefinition of Spain’s history designed to portray the current regime as “Defenders of Democracy” – where have we heard that before? Furthermore, it attempts to negate the Amnesty Law of 1977, because all of those alleged human rights violations and crimes were pardoned and exempt from future investigation and prosecution. The reason for this was because Sanchez was already planning his own replacement Amnesty Law...

Showing a blatant lack of imagination, Pedro Sanchez, has drafted an identical Amnesty Law to that of 1936. This would pardon and indemnify PSOE and other separatist party members, including convicted terrorists and also non-political prisoners convicted of sexual abuse and paedophilia. Unlike the 1977 Amnesty, this new law does not have the agreement of all political parties and is in blatant contravention of the Spanish Constitution. This though, has never stopped Sanchez before. His intention was to gain the support he needed to remain on his throne. This meant going cap-in-hand to political parties he had previously alienated with his charming personality. These parties are all ultra-leftwing separatists. His main target was the very Puigdemont who had been convicted of
aggravated embezzlement and disobedience, over the last Catalan separatist referendum, but who had escaped into exile in the boot of a car. He demanded not only amnesty and immunity from prosecution, but also another referendum regarding Cataluña.

Sanchez insisted that the King ratify his new Amnesty Law, but the King refused. To have ratified it would be against the Spanish constitution and also an act of treason. In effect, Spain would officially become a dictatorship and the days of the monarchy would be severely numbered.

In the meantime, the King invested his daughter as his rightful heir and she commenced her military training shortly afterwards.

During the past week or so, Spain has taken to the streets in huge numbers to protest against Sanchez, the Amnesty, Puigdemont and politicians in general. In Madrid the police illegally used tear gas against the demonstrators, including families with children, who were protesting peacefully. This subsequently brought out even more demonstrators and in some areas the police were marching with them.

The situation now is that suddenly Sanchez has gained a very narrow margin of support from the ultra-leftwing separatists which was enough for him to form a new government. On the 17th of November, 2023, Sanchez swore an oath to defend Spain and uphold the constitution, then, immediately afterwards in a press conference he stated that he would “build a wall between the Spain that supports him and the other that tries to prevent his plans for an autonomy referendum in Catalonia and carry forward his Amnesty Law.”

So, apart from Sanchez’s own selfish motivation, why is there still this apparent obsession and fixation with separating Cataluña from Spain? Whether the Catalan people themselves want it is a highly debatable issue. The last illegal referendum was rigged and Puigdemont, the exiled provincial leader of the region, is now one of the key figures who would benefit by the Amnesty Law, as it was a condition of his separatists party’s support to get Sanchez inaugurated as president.

There may well be ancient historical issues regarding the Catalan people and their racial origins. They are also trying to get independence in Sicily as well, but what possible interest could Russia have had in the origins of the Catalans back in 1936? None I would wager and such issues never get mentioned these days either. However, Cataluña continues to be a focus of political and criminal intrigues which involve corruption throughout many levels of its administration. The separation issue has also never gone away, but spread to the Basque Country as well.

Does all of this indicate that the same forces are still at play today as those that brought Spain to its knees in the late 1930s? I think the answer is obvious.

The moment that Franco designated Don Juan Carlos as his successor by order of the Spanish parliament,
on July 22, 1969. "The day before he died, Franco took my hand and told me:
'Your Highness, the only thing I ask of you is that you preserve the unity of Spain'.
And that means many things…" Juan Carlos I.
Source​

Nobody knows exactly what is going to happen about the Amnesty Law. There have been a few murmurs of concern within the EU parliament regarding Spain’s current situation, but the issue doesn't seem as if it's being taken seriously at all. Whether they could actually prevent the dictatorship of Sanchez is an unknown quantity, but if they permit a member state to become a dictatorship it will set a precedent and France, Italy and Germany would quickly follow. Maybe that's exactly what they want.

87 years after the 1936 crisis that installed a vicious totalitarian regime, Spain faces exactly the same crisis once again following 48 years of so-called democracy. Once again Spain is the first step of a worldwide shift into tyranny and chaos just as it was supposed to be back in 1936 when it was meant to trigger WWII. Fortunately Franco prevented it happening and other means had to be put in place that delayed the war until 1939. The Spanish people have been paying for that ever since, but even they never knew that the true purpose of the Communist subjugation of Spain was to bring about a total war between Britain and her allies, on the one side, and Germany and her allies on the other.

This time though, there’s no Franco and the only ones who can save Spain are the Spanish people themselves – as Alfonso XIII said “...she is sole mistress of her destinies.” This time if Spain falls the rest of Europe will fall soon after.

We have all already passed modern versions of the 8 stages outlined in the new political programme of May 14th, 1931, in the Ateneo Club meeting in Madrid plus many others that were never mentioned there: spiritual and moral corruption through media propaganda, vaccination, “diversity”, pornography and education to mention just a few. Many of these things also happened in Spain during the run up to the Civil War.

The jewel in the crown of the Spanish Constitution is what’s known as the Separation of Powers. This ensures that the legal system and the Judiciary are kept independent so that the government can never be above the law or control it. Over the past few years all of the major legal tribunals in Spain have been gradually populated by those loyal to the cause of Sanchez. Just yesterday, the 20th November, 2023, Sanchez formed his new government. He kept his right-hand man, Félix Bolaños, an ex-lawyer who was the architect of the unconstitutional states of emergency during the pandemic and who is also responsible for drafting the equally unconstitutional Amnesty Law. However, he has now also been assigned as Minister of Justice in order to force through the Amnesty Law and to effect the complete takeover of the Judiciary by the government, thus breaking the separation of powers which is at the heart of the Spanish Constitution. Cobblers to the democratic and constitutional values so staunchly being defended in the Law of Democratic Memory.

It’s time we saw through this old “Defence of Democracy” trick. It’s time to forget all the ridiculous labels that are designed to confuse and divide us. We have seen how back in the 1930s those labels were perhaps even more chaotic, contradictory and confusing than they are now. To William Guy Carr the it was the World Revolutionary Movement and the Illuminati. To John McGowan it was the Russian Communist International. Captain Ramsay called it ‘The Nameless War’. Today we call it ultra-leftwing Socialism. The truth is it can’t be named, for as soon as it’s identified it operates from within the opposite. The difference between 1936 and now is that the infection is even more widespread today. There has been a chant that originated with the Spanish demonstrations against the Covid lockdowns and has become more and more popular since then, “Derecha, izquierda, es la misma mierda!” which translates as “Left, right, it’s all the same shite!” Amen to that.

Spain clearly cannot count on any help from either the EU or its current king. However, there's another difference between 1936 and now - back then Spain was split 50/50, today the vast majority of Spaniards know who the real enemy is and they’re prepared to fight...

 

[luddite]

This is an amazing breakdown of such a complicated topic. Once when I was in Spain people were randomly still talking about Franco (same as Portugal with their João Franco). The two Franco's always confused me and I wanted to see comparisons between the two. It's amazing the legacy they left.

It’s time we saw through this old “Defence of Democracy” trick.

I agree and think that the trick is seen through by many however due to media and financial control (not to mention the police/army threat) it is hard to change. A french guillotine party is needed in every country.

 

[White_Armor]

From what I read, it looks like Barcelona, or Cataluña, was the real capital of the Iberian peninsula, but then the history was rewritten to make it look like it was always the crown of Castille that was the most powerful, there are many old maps and coat of arms where Cataluña is portrayed as the most important kingdom (the kingdom itself was the kingdom of Aragon).

 

[Deleted member 1432]

From what I read, it looks like Barcelona, or Cataluña, was the real capital of the Iberian peninsula, but then the history was rewritten to make it look like it was always the crown of Castille that was the most powerful, there are many old maps and coat of arms where Cataluña is portrayed as the most important kingdom (the kingdom itself was the kingdom of Aragon).

Just as with most countries, the Iberian Peninsula was originally comprised of many individual kingdoms that eventually merged through marriage or conquest. There never was a "real capital of the Iberian peninsula" and history has been rewritten in many ways, but never to claim that Castilla was always the most powerful, at least not to my knowledge, but perhaps you have evidence to the contrary? It wasn't until Castilla and Aragon united that Spain became a unified kingdom and technically the first capital of Spain was Segovia. Even at that time there was civil war in Cataluña, which was not as tightly bound to Aragon as you imply having originally been a separate principality that later merged with Aragon. It was this civil war that gave Castilla dominance over Aragon through the usual political machinations, whereby Castilla agreed to intervene on the side of Aragon and end it. The 'fly in the ointment' throughout all of the historical conflict involving Cataluña was the House of Barcelona which died out in 1410 after said civil war, (caused by the last ruler trying to enthrone his illegitimate son.) At that time it held territories in Cataluña, Valencia, Sardinia, Corsica and Sicily.

If you have any sources that tell a different story I would be very interested to see them.

 

[White_Armor]

According to official history, in the Roman Empire, there was a large province Hispania Tarraconensis in the Iberian peninsula, that encompassed pretty much all of it minus what is today Portugal and Andalusia. After the division done by Diocletian it had been reduced but it was still there. Supposedly it disappeared with the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire.

I have been studying the parallels presented by Anatoly Fomenko, and I share his theory that the Roman Empire lasted approximately between 330-360 years and it happened somewhere in the 1200-1500s.

So there must be some evidence that this "Hispania Tarraconensis" was still in existence in those latter times.

In the article "La Corona d'Aragó i els reis de la Tarraconensis" (written in Catalan, translation: The Crown of Aragon and the kings of Tarraconensis), researcher Ivan Giménez mentions many texts from the XV-XVIII centuries where the kings of Aragon are called King of Tarranonensis, "Rex Tarraconensium", and the kingdom "Tarraconensis Regni". Even John II of Aragon, who is already from the XV century, is called "Johês tarraconiae rex". Excerpt from the article:

Robert Gaguin, autor de l’obra De origine et gestis Francorum compendium (1497), anomena Joan II d’Aragó com a “Johês tarraconiae rex”. És a dir, el rei Joan de Tarragona.​

Translation:

Robert Gaguin, author of the work De origine et gestis Francorum compendium (1497), names John II of Aragon as "Johês tarraconiae rex". In other words, King John of Tarragona.​

The author also brings this map dated from the middle of the XVI century where we can see the name "Tarraconesis", and, as the himself notes, the name Castille is nowhere to be found.

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There are other maps like this one from around the same time period where Tarraconensis can still be found.

If this Tarraconensis kingdom was in existence in the middle ages and the Roman Empire division has any truth to it, then it must have been powerful, at least more than Castille. Then as you say, it's power was transferred to the dynasty ruling in Castille.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

@White_Armor - very interesting. Many thanks for your contribution.

Meanwhile, the political shenanigans in Spain have been far to numerous and ludicrous to keep up with. However, it now looks certain that the proposed Amnesty Law has been totally crushed. Now, Madrid, like many other European capitals, is gridlocked by farmers and agricultural workers blocking the roads with their machinery and vehicles.

 

[RedNeckGoober]

Now, Madrid, like many other European capitals, is gridlocked by farmers and agricultural workers blocking the roads with their machinery and vehicles.

I wish them luck in their efforts. These blockades are being attempted all over Europe, and there is one brewing in the US. I don't know about the protests in the EU, but most people here in the US know that it is the PTB that are attempting to form the one here to keep things 'peaceful' - which will never - ever - work. It's the way they roll.

 

[Tetromino]

I wish them luck in their efforts. These blockades are being attempted all over Europe, and there is one brewing in the US. I don't know about the protests in the EU, but most people here in the US know that it is the PTB that are attempting to form the one here to keep things 'peaceful' - which will never - ever - work. It's the way they roll.

A peaceful protect can be ignored but a violent one cannot.

 

[White_Armor]

From my analysis of the Amnesty Law, to me it looks like another excuse to make the Catalans believe yet again in democracy and the system. The disillusionment with every elected leader since the beginning of this regime has been almost non stop in every country, but you have to sell again to the public that this time it is going to work, that the solution to your problem is finally going to come thanks to these brave people that are fighting inside the system these other corrupt politicians.

The supposed objective of this law is to help Spain reunify by forgetting what happened with the independentist acts taken by Catalonia, but if you see what has happened so far, it has done nothing but further intensify the division. Its lure is that Sanchez has promised to give a legal referendum to the Catalans for their independence, and that their accused leaders of their independentist movement will no longer face prosecution, but it's very likely this will also be used to release terrorists who will then be used by TPTB to further erode their nation. To me the objective is clear and is the same as in every other part of the world, which is to escalate the conflict until a war breaks out,

As for the Catalan independentist cause, is it really that it just founded on non sense and superstition? That is what the Spanish mass media tells us, they say it's anti democratic, that "our strength is in our union", but these are just generic, devoid of any meaning phrases used by any propagandist.

As I wrote in my previous post, there is evidence that points to a cover up of the true history of Catalonia and Aragon. In Catalonia there have been many books published already about this subject, I have tried to find some of them on the internet from a list I saw but I didn't find any. But there is one book that has been published by Catalan researcher Andreu Marfull Pujadas titled "The other colonization of America, according to maps and neochronology" where he gives evidence that points to an important role played by Catalonia in the colonization of America. There are various old maps where the flag of Catalonia is present throughout the Americas, and interestingly flags with the crescent moon are also seen there. This the author shows in his book and also writes about more evidence to this, although in a very compacted form.

If you look in the internet at how this research is being discredited, is is by the same tactics that are always used by TPTB: appealing to childish behavior like shaming, etc.

As for Christopher Columbus, the Catalans have a theory that he was in reality a noble Catalan, this would explain why in the official version we're told he was an unknown poor man, who somehow the queen suddenly trusted and gave him a lot of money for a very big expedition. In the internet there's a video about this in the Catalan language (i don't speak Catalan), and there's also a documentary that's been produced about this and circulated in the Catalan television some years ago.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

As I wrote in my previous post, there is evidence that points to a cover up of the true history of Catalonia and Aragon.

No doubt this is true, however, the same can be said for just about everywhere else. My point was that the true reason behind Catalan autonomy is being driven by external subversive elements who don't give a toss about the true history of Cataluña.

This is from a document issued by the EU Parliament on the 8th February 2024, numbered P9_TA(2024)0079 and entitled: 'Russian plot: accusations of Russian interference in the democratic processes of the European Union.'

N. whereas some journalistic reports have long pointed out the contacts and close personal relations between the Catalan secessionists – including the authorities of the Government of the Autonomous Community of Catalonia – and the Kremlin; that, according to information from various investigative journalists, the former Russian diplomat Nikolai Sadovnikov met with the then separatist leader and current member of the European Parliament Carles Puigdemont, in Barcelona, on the eve of the illegal referendum in Catalonia in October 2017; that, through its contacts and relations, Russia seeks to create political and economic influence to destabilize democracy in the European Union; that the Investigative Court No. 1 of Barcelona—in charge of the investigation into the Voloh affair, which links, among others, the former Catalan president and his entourage to Russia—has recently extended the investigation for six more months; that representatives of a group of Catalan secessionists from Spain who have maintained relations with figures close to the Kremlin – among whom is the member of the European Parliament in question – demand that they be granted an amnesty for his alleged crimes.​

It's a long document which gives the impression that the EU Parliament is totally corrupt. I will attach the whole document. There's also this:

11. Expresses its deep concern about the alleged relations between the Catalan secessionists and the Russian Government; He observes that, if confirmed, Russian interference in Catalonia would be part of a broader Russian strategy to promote internal destabilization and disunity in the EU; expresses its deep concern about the large-scale disinformation campaigns that Russia has carried out in Catalonia, as well as the alleged intense contacts and the number of meetings between the agents responsible for Russian interference with representatives of the independence movement and the regional Government of the Autonomous Community of Catalonia; calls on the competent judicial authorities to effectively investigate the connections of MEPs allegedly linked to the Kremlin and Russia's attempts at destabilization and interference in the European Union and its Member States; regrets all attacks against judges investigating any interference activity; calls for the matters of the Catalan Members of the European Parliament in question to be referred to the Advisory Committee on the Conduct of Members.

As I said in the OP...

There may well be ancient historical issues regarding the Catalan people and their racial origins. They are also trying to get independence in Sicily as well, but what possible interest could Russia have had in the origins of the Catalans back in 1936? None I would wager and such issues never get mentioned these days either. However, Cataluña continues to be a focus of political and criminal intrigues which involve corruption throughout many levels of its administration. The separation issue has also never gone away, but spread to the Basque Country as well.

Does all of this indicate that the same forces are still at play today as those that brought Spain to its knees in the late 1930s? I think the answer is obvious.

Meanwhile, Global Warming has officially arrived in Barcelona (where else) and they are importing water in huge ships - each one costing one million euros. Sanchez has lost all of his governmental majority and even the support of many of his own party members and is now under (Spanish) criminal investigation for conspiring with convicted terrorists (Catalan Separatists) and they in turn are being investigated locally for having strong links with the Kremlin.

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Since the 6th of February there has been a massive mobilisation of Spanish farmers and agricultural workers against the policies of Sanchez and his government. They have been joined by the fishermen, transport workers, taxi drivers and millions of normal Spaniards to the point where most of Spain is totally paralysed. The main issue is that the government is importing 880% more food than it is buying from Spanish producers. For example, 1 kilo of Spanish oranges are worth 15 centimos to the farmers. This makes it totally uneconomical for the farmers to gather, pack and transport the oranges, so they just rot, while the government imports oranges and everything else from Morocco. Millions of Spanish families have been financially ruined in this way. Now they have nothing to lose.

The farmers have taken to the roads and blocked off all the major cities. In the beginning there was an agreement between them and Sanchez about which roads they could use, but he double-crossed them and so now they are everywhere. The police blocked as many roads as they could, but being tractors, they just drove around the road-blocks. They have been intercepting lorries importing food from Morocco and emptying their contents out onto the ground.

The chief of police has authorised the use of violence, tear gas and massive rubber projectiles against the protesters including women, children and senior citizens - so much for all this campaigning against 'macho violence against women'. The farmers are being fined left, right and centre, but they don't give a sh*t because they are already ruined. The regional police and the Guardia Civil have declared that they don't have enough manpower to stop the protesters and their vehicles are being burned by the protesters in retaliation for their violence. Many people have ended up in casualty departments.

There has been a total media blackout and a campaign of lies and misinformation regarding the crisis. Facebook, Instagram etc, have all been censoring reports of the protest. The EU has announced that only Spain is refusing Agenda 2030 and the rest of the EU has accepted it. No doubt the same is being said in every other EU country replacing the word 'Spain' with 'Your Country'.

46 Policemen have been denounced for causing physical injury to protesters. They will be prosecuted in the courts. The police and the Guardia Civil are now saying that they cannot control the sheer volume of protesters if they are unable to use violence. On top of that, protesters have been retaliating against the police who are massively outnumbered. Many of them have severe injuries and their police vehicles continue to burn.

What's happening in Spain is being coordinated with Portugal and Italy. Today the protesters are taking Madrid and then they will close all the ports in all 3 countries to stop all foreign imports. Sanchez has ordered the Madrid metro trains to be withdrawn from service, along with the normal rail services, in an attempt to stop the protesters, but they have hired coaches and even vowed to walk for however long it takes.

Police in some provinces have refused to fine the protesters. And just today there has been a major incident involving the Guardia Civil. Three of them were shot dead by Moroccan narco-trafficers on the beach at Barbate while a nearby crowd of Moroccans cheered and danced. For a long time now, Sanchez has forbidden the Guardia Civil drug squad from using their firearms against drug trafficers. It's perfectly OK for the Guardia Civil and the National Police to use them against Spaniards though,

Today Spain is hosting the annual 'Premios Goya' which are the equivalent of 'The Academy Awards' and 'The Oscars'. The government has refused to cancel the event out of respect for the 3 dead Guardia Civil or due to the chaos caused by the protest because they must of course, have their ego trips and their satanic orgies. Let's hope the Spanish Police and the Guardia Civil will wake up and realise that we should all be fighting the same enemy, not each other.

 

[ViniB]

No doubt this is true, however, the same can be said for just about everywhere else. My point was that the true reason behind Catalan autonomy is being driven by external subversive elements who don't give a toss about the true history of Cataluña.

This is from a document issued by the EU Parliament on the 8th February 2024, numbered P9_TA(2024)0079 and entitled: 'Russian plot: accusations of Russian interference in the democratic processes of the European Union.'



It's a long document which gives the impression that the EU Parliament is totally corrupt. I will attach the whole document. There's also this:



As I said in the OP...



Meanwhile, Global Warming has officially arrived in Barcelona (where else) and they are importing water in huge ships - each one costing one million euros. Sanchez has lost all of his governmental majority and even the support of many of his own party members and is now under (Spanish) criminal investigation for conspiring with convicted terrorists (Catalan Separatists) and they in turn are being investigated locally for having strong links with the Kremlin.

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Since the 6th of February there has been a massive mobilisation of Spanish farmers and agricultural workers against the policies of Sanchez and his government. They have been joined by the fishermen, transport workers, taxi drivers and millions of normal Spaniards to the point where most of Spain is totally paralysed. The main issue is that the government is importing 880% more food than it is buying from Spanish producers. For example, 1 kilo of Spanish oranges are worth 15 centimos to the farmers. This makes it totally uneconomical for the farmers to gather, pack and transport the oranges, so they just rot, while the government imports oranges and everything else from Morocco. Millions of Spanish families have been financially ruined in this way. Now they have nothing to lose.

The farmers have taken to the roads and blocked off all the major cities. In the beginning there was an agreement between them and Sanchez about which roads they could use, but he double-crossed them and so now they are everywhere. The police blocked as many roads as they could, but being tractors, they just drove around the road-blocks. They have been intercepting lorries importing food from Morocco and emptying their contents out onto the ground.

The chief of police has authorised the use of violence, tear gas and massive rubber projectiles against the protesters including women, children and senior citizens - so much for all this campaigning against 'macho violence against women'. The farmers are being fined left, right and centre, but they don't give a sh*t because they are already ruined. The regional police and the Guardia Civil have declared that they don't have enough manpower to stop the protesters and their vehicles are being burned by the protesters in retaliation for their violence. Many people have ended up in casualty departments.

There has been a total media blackout and a campaign of lies and misinformation regarding the crisis. Facebook, Instagram etc, have all been censoring reports of the protest. The EU has announced that only Spain is refusing Agenda 2030 and the rest of the EU has accepted it. No doubt the same is being said in every other EU country replacing the word 'Spain' with 'Your Country'.

46 Policemen have been denounced for causing physical injury to protesters. They will be prosecuted in the courts. The police and the Guardia Civil are now saying that they cannot control the sheer volume of protesters if they are unable to use violence. On top of that, protesters have been retaliating against the police who are massively outnumbered. Many of them have severe injuries and their police vehicles continue to burn.

What's happening in Spain is being coordinated with Portugal and Italy. Today the protesters are taking Madrid and then they will close all the ports in all 3 countries to stop all foreign imports. Sanchez has ordered the Madrid metro trains to be withdrawn from service, along with the normal rail services, in an attempt to stop the protesters, but they have hired coaches and even vowed to walk for however long it takes.

Police in some provinces have refused to fine the protesters. And just today there has been a major incident involving the Guardia Civil. Three of them were shot dead by Moroccan narco-trafficers on the beach at Barbate while a nearby crowd of Moroccans cheered and danced. For a long time now, Sanchez has forbidden the Guardia Civil drug squad from using their firearms against drug trafficers. It's perfectly OK for the Guardia Civil and the National Police to use them against Spaniards though,

Today Spain is hosting the annual 'Premios Goya' which are the equivalent of 'The Academy Awards' and 'The Oscars'. The government has refused to cancel the event out of respect for the 3 dead Guardia Civil or due to the chaos caused by the protest because they must of course, have their ego trips and their satanic orgies. Let's hope the Spanish Police and the Guardia Civil will wake up and realise that we should all be fighting the same enemy, not each other.

Damn, had no idea that it was that crazy in Spain. I've seen reports and videos from all over europe where the protests ate happening, but not Spain.

The way things are going, the next few weeks to months will be, to say the least, unpredictable...... and yes, as soon as the police and military wake tf up this joke of a system is dead. United we stand, divided we fall

 

[Gladius]

I actually did see a lot of the protest coverage popping on my YT feed, but with more focus on other countries such as Netherlands.

It more or less started in East Europe, mainly in Poland, Slovakia and Romania, farmer unions blocked the border checkpoints to Ukraine claiming that cheap Ukrainian produce was ruining them. As you can imagine, a lot of aid to Ukraine (non-military mostly) was blocked off for months. The "siege" was recently lifted. What I could find was that although the farmer claims were more or less justified, all of the main organizers were connected to local pro-Russian parties who openly call for giving Ukraine away to Russia. For example, the newly elected Slovakian president, where such protests began exactly when he came to power.
For now, I assume that Kyiv / EU managed to buy their cooperation.

However by the way you describe it, Spain seems like a different level.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

The protesters split their advance into 3 divisions in order to weaken the police attacks last night. However, there were appalling scenes of Police brutality in Madrid throughout the night. Special police intervention units (UIP) were attacking civilians with tear gas, rubber projectiles and heavy truncheons / batons. They were determined to get the coordinators and smashed into the crowd wielding their batons and bringing them down vertically onto the heads of the unprotected civilians, including women and children. This form of attack is totally illegal against civilians in Spain. Once they had them on the ground they beat them, breaking arms, legs and ribs. There are many cases of fractured skulls and broken bones in the casualty departments of Madrid today.

The coordinators have announced that there will be complaints against the agents involved to both the operational command and the Government Delegation in Madrid, as well as a demand for the resignation of Minister of the Interior and utter b*stard, Marlaska. Evidence of the Police brutality is ready to be sent to the European Court of Human Rights and other international bodies, on Monday. The protest continues in numbers so great that the police have lost control. Of course, there is no media coverage and AI censoring of images and videos in all social media platforms.

The protesters have stated that they will not negotiate and they will not stop until all the politicians in Spain have resigned or been locked up.

"¡Golpéanos a todos si puedes, Marlaska. Ni un paso atrás; esto acaba de empezar!"

"Hit us all if you can, Marlaska. Not a step back; this has just begun!"

 

[luddite]

The protesters split their advance into 3 divisions in order to weaken the police attacks last night. However, there were appalling scenes of Police brutality in Madrid throughout the night. Special police intervention units (UIP) were attacking civilians with tear gas, rubber projectiles and heavy truncheons / batons. They were determined to get the coordinators and smashed into the crowd wielding their batons and bringing them down vertically onto the heads of the unprotected civilians, including women and children. This form of attack is totally illegal against civilians in Spain. Once they had them on the ground they beat them, breaking arms, legs and ribs. There are many cases of fractured skulls and broken bones in the casualty departments of Madrid today.

The coordinators have announced that there will be complaints against the agents involved to both the operational command and the Government Delegation in Madrid, as well as a demand for the resignation of Minister of the Interior and utter b*stard, Marlaska. Evidence of the Police brutality is ready to be sent to the European Court of Human Rights and other international bodies, on Monday. The protest continues in numbers so great that the police have lost control. Of course, there is no media coverage and AI censoring of images and videos in all social media platforms.

The protesters have stated that they will not negotiate and they will not stop until all the politicians in Spain have resigned or been locked up.

"¡Golpéanos a todos si puedes, Marlaska. Ni un paso atrás; esto acaba de empezar!"

"Hit us all if you can, Marlaska. Not a step back; this has just begun!"

Soon people will realise that to beat the police you go to their stations/hq whilst they are doing the beatings, obtain their address' and burn their homes down. That is literally the safest way to go.

 

[White_Armor]

The sabotage and the USSR withdrawal of support for the communists in the Spanish Civil War could be explained by the fact that the objective, and only possible one, of any "real" communist revolution, has to be the total annihilation of the higher classes through violence. It does not have to be democratic, nor somewhat violent, it has to be a bloody revolution, a total victory according to their views.

This is what happened in the Russia itself in the times of their communist revolution, they started fighting between the communists themselves, and ultimately the Bolsheviks won, which were the ones having this ideology. This is precisely what the term "Bolshevik" means, it comes from "bolshe", which means "bigger", thus the "Bolsheviks" are the ones who "go big".

In the times of the Spanish Civil War, they probably saw that the mentality of the populace wasn't yet prepared to achieve that. So they gave up this opportunity in order to subject the Spanish government to yet some more years, or decades, of a "tyrannical, fascist", and then after WW2, a "supported by the United States" dictatorship, which in turn would be used in the future to further advance towards the goal of that revolution.

Today's Russia's conflict with Ukraine is just the beginning of the wider conflict that will continue to escalate, using the same strategy of Russia vs United States as in the cold war, but now it's just Russia instead of the USSR. This is the war that according to the propaganda was expected to happen in decades of 1950-1990, but people thought that the downfall of the USSR meant that this possibility could now be averted. What happened thereafter shows us that the downfall of the USSR was nothing but fakery, it just meant that the "Communist Regime" psyop ran its course, and now had to be replaced with another one more fit towards the objectives to be achieved later.

People now are so much more lost than one hundred years ago. The possibility of the communist "total annihilation" revolution now seems more plausible, not only in Spain, but also in the rest of Europe, and in the US.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

The sabotage and the USSR withdrawal of support for the communists in the Spanish Civil War...

That's not what happened. you should read the OP again. The Communist International forces in Spain turned against the Spanish Workers Parties who had initially facilitated the Civil War. This is a familiar pattern.

So they gave up this opportunity in order to subject the Spanish government to yet some more years, or decades, of a "tyrannical, fascist", and then after WW2, a "supported by the United States" dictatorship

Again, please read the OP once more, After WW2 the United States deliberately excluded Spain from the Marshall Plan, Untied Nations, etc. What proof do you have that Franco's "Fascist" dictatorship was supported by the USA?

People now are so much more lost

It certainly appears so from your post.

 

[White_Armor]

That's not what happened. you should read the OP again. The Communist International forces in Spain turned against the Spanish Workers Parties who had initially facilitated the Civil War. This is a familiar pattern.

I should not have said communists, I was referring to the socialists, or any left wing organization for that matter, not aligned with the Communist International goals.

Again, please read the OP once more, After WW2 the United States deliberately excluded Spain from the Marshall Plan, Untied Nations, etc. What proof do you have that Franco's "Fascist" dictatorship was supported by the USA?

After the initial years of isolation of Spain, the US started forming an alliance with it, starting with the Pact of Madrid of 1953, under the excuse that it was needed for the Cold War effort. Due to the economic difficulties Spain was facing it also came as a "necessary" step to be taken by the Spanish, but this acceptance of aid, in any form, from the US, will always come with a cost. Spain was also introduced to the UN in 1955. Excerpt from the article :

"The Pact of Madrid, signed in 1953, provided $1.4 billion in U.S. military and economic aid to Spain over the next 10 years in return for naval and air bases for American forces; most scholars agree that this infusion of cash helped perpetuate Franco’s reign." - "Rejecting the Cold War Alliance with Franco"​

In exchange for this aid, "US educational ideas" were also to be disseminated in Spain:

"Cold War strategic priorities led the United States to establish an enduring military alliance with General Francisco Franco's dictatorship in Spain between 1953 and 1975. This article examines the educational diplomacy carried out by the US government during the 1960s and early 1970s to foster Spain's stable modernization through the training of national development elites and the dissemination of US educational ideas. - "Soft Power, Modernization, and Security: US Educational Foreign Policy Toward Authoritarian Spain in the Cold War"​

 

[Deleted member 1432]

"The Pact of Madrid, signed in 1953, provided $1.4 billion in U.S. military and economic aid to Spain over the next 10 years in return for naval and air bases for American forces; most scholars agree that this infusion of cash helped perpetuate Franco’s reign." - "Rejecting the Cold War Alliance with Franco"

Did you pay to read the full articles rather than just the introductory blurbs you have quoted?

The situation in Spain during those times was far more complicated than is generally assumed, or rather is very different to the way the mainstream versions portray it to have been. The general view is that Franco decided to isolate Spain from the rest of the world and live out his 'megalomaniacle' fantasy, but this is not the case at all. Spain's economic problems were enforced upon her through a decade of trade embargoes. The other fashionable misconception is that Franco was an outright dictator who dominated all political ideology, but again this is not quite accurate. There were 'factions' within Franco's regime, both political and religious...

"The death of Stalin in 1953 and the rise of Nikita Khrushchev prompted Santiago Carrillo [exiled head of the Spanish Communist Party] to postulate the abandonment of the demolition strategy of Francoism through violence and to try and promote a final national reconciliation. Also, on August 8, 1953, a Concordat was signed between the Vatican and the Spanish State. The Church and the military uprising had always coincided in their approaches and interests and now, this highest level agreement facilitated greater stability and a better regulation between both. Thanks to this, Franco guaranteed himself continuity of strong ideological and social support while the Church gained legal and economic support to carry out its own mission. Thirdly, on the 27th August of that same year, three 'executive agreements' were signed between the United States and Spain. Franco was a dictator and his regime was perceived as being too similar to those defeated in World War II, but he was absolutely anti-communist so he became a comfortable ally for the Cold War. Finally, the Regime achieved its international acceptance with the entry of Spain into the UN on December 14, 1955." (Source: 'La Ley General de Educación de 1970, ¿Una Ley para la Modernización de España?' Juan Manuel Fernández-Soria y Diego Sevilla Merino)

The Franco Regime would have been crazy not to agree to all of the offers made to them around that time, but to claim that the US "infusion of cash helped perpetuate Franco’s reign" is a ludicrous statement. No doubt all of the deals had strings attached, not just the US one. For example, the prime movers of Spain's new modernisation program were both celibate members of Opus Dei, a fanatical Catholic Religious cult.

As far as "the training of national development elites and the dissemination of US educational ideas" is concerned I can only pass on information given to me by Spaniards who were educated under the new system during the 1970s. The only tangible evidence was that English was introduced to be taught alongside French, but only at the most basic level (which was repeated each year ad infinitum.) Pupils received a brand new and immensely thick textbook on Geology. Apart from this the Spanish learned more about American ideals from the 'Westerns' on the TV, just like the rest of the world. There may well have been other effects, but I'm afraid I don't have time to look into all of that,sorry.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Since posting this article I have refrained from giving updates on the political situation in Spain as it's not really relevant to the forum's 'mission'. However, the situation has now developed to a point where the original premise of this thread is about to be fulfilled - history is poised to repeat itself this week here in Spain, when Sanchez seizes total control of the Judiciary system and becomes a dictator.

Since the last post in this thread, the level of corruption in Spain has revealed itself to be endemic within Spanish society to the point of absurdity. Sanchez, his wife/husband, his brothers, his parents and members of his government are all under investigation (locally and by the EU) for fraud regarding the misappropriation of EU and national funds. Prosecutions are imminent, hence his desperation for the Amnesty Law. A badly drafted version of this law has been forced through parliament and, in spite of an initial pretense of non-compliance, the king has ratified the law - effectively ending the Spanish monarchy whichever way the future goes. Now it's only the Judiciary who stand in the way of Sanchez and what he believes to be his "get out of jail free" law. He has promised to take total control of the Judiciary this week, with or without their agreement.

Last week's EU elections in Spain have been proven a total fraud, which is not surprising as Sanchez owns Indra - the company that counts the votes. The voting was a ludicrous scenario of dirty tricks and outright manipulation - particularly in relation to the infamous Puigdemont. A recount was ordered for last Friday but typically, no results have been published officially as far as I know, but then the media are behind Sanchez 100%.

This atmosphere of corruption and the old "Do what thou wilt shall be the only law" attitude, has infected the Spanish people to a far greater degree than Covid ever did. I don't know if they will ever recover from this particular 'scamdemic' when combined with the machinations of France and Germany to destroy Spain's agriculture and mining industries under the guise of the European Union. Certainly, it's become obvious that there's absolutely no point to voting in elections here. So, this week could very well see Spain with another dictator, except not a 'fascist' one this time, just a totally unscrupulous b*stard.

 

[ViniB]

It's actually scary how close spain politics are to brazil politics, like wtf, and that says a lot.......