"Tartaria" is a myth and didn't exist

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gatekeeping
I have a lot of trouble with that word. It's kind of like having your pet skunk deodorized.
My idea is - listen to all voices; trust no one.
Now that hidden history has been infiltrated by agents of the Borg, through social media, we have an even harder job trying to sort out fact from fiction. kind of like, uh, duh, so, you know, alien reptilian Walmartians.

Is there a thread which lists "best" sources? That is, sources that explore SH topics by main themes.
I'd also like a thread in which posters put forward their best guesstimates of real world timelines. Really.

In my own ivory tower, I see Advanced Beings (of gnosticism) who emanated our hologram reality in a torus field with an accretion disk/infinite plane.
At first, the aeons may have larped in it, as the titans of Greek, Nordic, etc. myths. When they got tired of the program, their forms petrified into mountains, caves, curious stone structures.
Succeeding resets introduced other forms of life and world ages.
Somewhere along the line, two competing control systems started wrestling for total hegemony.
Enki vs Enlil. Khazaria vs Tartaria, Democrats vs Republicans, Israel vs goyim.

Does anyone else have their own Theory of Everything? and the Mystery of Life?
if not, why not ? You never really know what you really think until you state your best analysis in real words.
In written sentences. or..... Sometimes you even blurt out true feelings that you didn't realize you had -- the old foot-in-mouth syndrome.
Which is a bad way to make friends and influence people.
pfft. My avatar, Diogenes, was (acc. to history books) a total jackass who spoke his mind in the marketplace because he rejected Orwellian groupthink.

 

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'd also like a thread in which posters put forward their best guesstimates of real world timelines. Really.

Maybe not exactly what you're looking for but this is a start

Alternative Mega Theories

 

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I had some shower thoughts about this thread yesterday, and your contribution has reminded me to post it here.

I think it is probable that this is the second time that Tartaria has been used as a psyop. The first time was in the reconstruction phase after the reset, and the second is now. What if the crumbs we are seeing about Tartaria are not remnants of truth in the narrative, but remnants of the Tartaria psyop as it was formed around the rebuilding of society?



What better way to obscure the past than to make a catch-all culture the Tartarians? The same is happening now - though instead of them being swarthy horseman who drink raw milk they are now free energy star children nephilim.

If words have power, then Tartaria has certainly held power in some form or fashion over the last few hundred years. Perhaps Tartaria is the "in case of emergency break glass" of reset narratives. In the case of the 19th century instance it was to add context to a huge geographic area in East Asia and the west coast of America. In the case of 2025 its intended purpose is to control the release of information that could potentially lead to knowledge of past cataclysm and the establishment of the modern control network.



I can't agree with you more on this. Speaking from experience the "shittification" of Tartaria and mudfloods is why I have experienced burnout in these topics. Thankfully SH allows for far more nuance in these discussions, which is why I'm still here and still support those that remain.

I think it's probable that an aspect to "tartaria was america 1 and a global super empire" is the phenomenon I mentioned when I brought up America as a global empire, and also that as people caught on to how hilariously bad our mainstream history is that agents started trying to stir up disinfo campaigns and fracture the ability of splinter cells to do any of their own research and find anything worth a damn without being ridiculed.
I can see how people can say "it was x" in good faith and there be some truth in it, in the commons sense like with "America/Israel control the world" but I can also see how these things work in stages.

This is a bit off topic but take for example the current situation with the dude who stabbed that guy and he got rewarded with a hundred gorillion dollars and a house and now everyone's panicking over a race war.
On the road to hell, as a society and socially, there are "checkpoints" where pressure needs to be relieved. The nature of these changes depending on the kind of event or genre of psyopping going on. For the racial example and on a macro scale of keeping people distracted, it's necessary to co-opt organic anger at the system such that you relieve the pressure without allowing the relief of that pressure to naturally result in a course correction as it would if you weren't constantly interfering and distracting people. That's how in news, politics and world events we keep on speeding to hell at a breakneck pace.

When it comes to small niche communities like these however, the game changes a bit. There's only so much you can do unless you focus more resources on a given niche. In the historical research community there's all kinds of branches, you have the schizos who lump everything together, the good schizos (like us) who hone in on specific things as best we can and others who specialize on this or that area, providing information and others providing context and hypothesis. I think for us, here, regardless of what happens with YouTube channels with 200k subs, we're basically past the storm for the most part until some division starts tampering with pictures more with their "ai" or something. Unless more resources are devoted there's only so much more they can taint the information pool with now that the "alt" history crowd has expanded so much. They've already defamed anyone who doesn't believe their contradictory history books, so they've effectively "contained" them and have washed their hands of it. So you have big slop guys, and smaller niche guys of higher quality. The label of "schizophrenic tartaria conspiracy theorist chuds" is the containment zone. As far as the wider community itself, I think it's mostly being left alone now that some grifters are in it. The world at large is vulnerable to history psyops such as the pyramid discoveries, however, and that's probably the new frontier of history psyopping, but it's not aimed at us so much. There are other rabbit holes designed specifically for people with minds like ours, but that's in the microcosm and not the macrocosm.

One thing I've noticed is that other people who don't specialize in history but moreso psyops and being ahead of whatever the "current thing" is have caught on to faked history through "tartaria going mainstream" but the quality individuals I know of take this, and they don't run with it, but rather use the revelations from communities like ours to show precedent of deception.

And precedent of the Revelation of the Method. I've seen 3 channels who primarily focus on strange world events like body doubles, fake political theater and war and technology/CERN pysops. One of them is the only guy I know of at all to cover the recent Spain blackouts and mention the strange timing being at the exact same time as other blackouts in a different country and coincidentally at the same time they found a plaster menorah column in some dude's yard in Israel so they could wewuz.

And I find that there's great value in THAT effect. I think overall "tartaria going mainstream" has mostly helped people with keen eyes, and for me, that's enough. It helps me and it's not my problem if it doesn't help the rest of the world because I don't have power over that or people who can't filter information decently enough.

I've experienced the same burnout with all topics of research, so I only come back to this or that when I feel like I have something to get out of my system, but overall I think the good work that's been done has helped others who try to pick up the torch. Whether it's our historical torch or something else. Even if there's a lot of bullshit out there in the "althistory" sphere, more and more people thinking everything is all fake is still better than thinking it's all real. The truth is somewhere in between, more like "18.2% of this was real but we'll never know and the rest is fake" but people are better off assuming everything is fake and ignoring whatever theatrics are going on in this day and age than taking nearly anything they don't go out of their way to learn seriously. So I think there's still value even if people run with the Tartaria label or not. The less people who are willing to believe mainstream history in general, the better, considering all of the wars being waged right now based off shit that never happened and people who probably never existed. I'm sure they have plans to use apathy towards global theater against us but it's still another thing they have to co-opt and devote resources to instead of just dangling the carrot from the stick.
That doesn't seem to be working as well anymore. Still is but not good enough because you see more extreme escalation to compensate for it every day now.

 

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But I really would like to reiterate there's such a thing as an esoteric Tower of Babel, an egregore even, and language "naturally" produces phenomenons like the one we're talking about. There's really nothing you can do about it, it's a hard-coded back door into the current human experience. Best you can do is take all things in moderation. Language is a weapon. A military weapon. And a TECHNOLOGY. Never forget that even speaking has an element of military strategy to it.

And I have to improve my research too. I don't want to contribute to spreading garbage. I'm not the best writer but I try to present things I think are worth having a look at regardless of if my conclusions are "provable", which to be honest few things seem to be provable at all anymore, which is the grand point here. The fact that barely anything can be proved is proof that there are real things out there. Silent warfare is real, but it's not simultaneously not silent when you can point it out. That's dualism for you. The paradox is the point, and the reconciliation.

And so we keep hunting. And I agree with Trismegistus that this isn't the first time "tartaria" has been used as a psyop. I actually saw inklings of this in Paul Grebner's book, and I was thinking about it in the shower as well. "Jews will emerge from the bowels of Tartaria" hits the same way as every other quote by Chabad leaders about how they want to take over Ukraine because it's Khazaria. It's from the horses mouth, but a few hundred years later people may be looking at those same admissions the way we look at old books and find a million rabbit holes. If anything, that Paul Grebner book quote reminded me of that old Zionist quote about turning America into a welfare nation to be bled. I think we're just reliving the same events of the past honestly. Time's a flat circle but it paves over itself, over and over. Same thing for nations, for psyops, and even technology, free energy or planetary energy or whatever else.

The Nephilim, hermaphrodite star children thing is really funny because of how gay it is and conveniently it discredits any research into structures as anything more than just pretty buildings. I'm not an expert on that either but I got a lot of value out of a thread on here about cavity resonance in relation to domed structures, and Conspiracy R Us' Cistern video. Reminded me of the old days when we were looking at those temple basements with brick arches half buried in cement and I realized they looked just like concreted cisterns.

 

[Tapioca]

You can endlessly, for a hundred thousand years, try to figure out if the Gothay were really descendent of the tribes, if the jews are Khazars, if they're Italian or Arab.

Agreed. Anyone can convert to Judaism. Sammy Davis Jr, Elizabeth Taylor, Ruth and Jethro from the bible, are two biblical ones I can think of. Like Christians, Irish, "white" people, "black" people, Scot, Albanian, etc. CONVERT OR DIE was a Christian and Muslim custom. This led to crypto Jews, crypto Christians, crypto Muslims as well.

I talk more about black magic practicing fake converts escaping Egypt with the Jews in the Exodus on this thread.

The similarity of the New Testament to other beliefs, virgin birth, rising from the dead, cannot be overlooked. Religions are systems that effect your mind and behavior. Pagans pretended to convert but kept their satanic ways. Or acceptable like with the Catholic death cult, collecting remains of dead bodies, "saints" which are really their old gods. It goes on and on.

However, I do believe the Bible is true and from God. The flood of Noah is the mud flood!! It says it happened all over the world and it did! It's right there!! Other cultures know about it too!! The civilizations are those destroyed before this. Created by the evil angels or the good people or someone. The Bible gives us information and many puzzle pieces. Perhaps all of them. I am not learned enough to see them.

Red hair is an oddity but it occurs around the world. Albinos can have blond or strawberry red hair. Red haired giants and regular people pop up in the Americas, Egypt, Israel, everywhere! It is random around the world. The color of one's hair defines nothing and IMHO should not be used to know anything. When they have children, what color hair do their children have? Really I don't know. Is it.. red?

The point we're at where it just looks like we wuzzing until you get to the point you say "fuck it it's all fake" is exactly the goal of fracture language and roots as a spiritual weapon. It's a ritualistic weapon with a ritualistic purpose of symbolically severing something as well.

Sometimes I think there is no use in trying since the only info given is what we are told. Fritz Springmeier is considered a reliable source but why is he trusted? Don't overlords kill those people? This would be true about anything published or any information learned.

Are we led by the genius masterminds to dead ends for amusement? Are there REAL clues? Did they orchestrate ALL of this world wide reset but got sloppy hiding it? What do they benefit from hiding the truth from us? Can we topple them? Do we have magic powers or what?

Psalm 82:5-7
“The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. “I said, ‘You are “gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.’ But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”

Psalm 82:8
Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

All the nations are included in this. We ALL are the same to God. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist, Shinto, Europeans, Americans, Asians, and on and on. All all all of us are on the same level. No one is better or worse. We humans with souls.

As far as the Bible, much as I want to believe and a piece of me believes there's some core pure truth somewhere in it, it's been undeniably altered. And of course, when you break the word down, you get "buy bull". Same with money, mon-eye, Israel, Is Ra El, Isis, Ra, Elohim, same with chilled ren, off-ice, police, pole-ice...

I agree on ritualistic language. I believe images are a language too. Egyptians used pictographs and we are shown imagery on TV and magazines, religious artifacts, etc. Is this understood by our subconscious? Are we being programmed through the images we see through a pictographic language? They used to (probably still do) put images of popcorn in movies at theaters to encourage you to buy popcorn. It happened so fast, we could not see it, but our subconscious could. I talk more about semantics on this thread.

Immigrants to the US going through Ellis Island had their names changed or chose new names. In some cultures surnames came from whatever occupation they held. Arrow maker = Fletcher. Live near a river = Brooks. Strong armed = Armstrong. John's son = Johnson.

Surnames were necessary for taxing the people. Names don't lead to anything.

The bit in the bible I'll never forget is in Genesis where it mentions buildings existing barren and empty before any men were supposed to have been created. I don't know anything, and that's the most anyone can really know. And I can say "this or that probably existed and seems real" and say I don't know anything without it being a contradiction because finding one's self in this predicament is proof of silent weapons and that there's more to things than there seems. Within all contradictions, a consistency always emerges, and it's the gasping breaths of what would be a coherent truth.

Joshua 24:13 "I gave you a land you did not labor for, and cities you did not build, though you live in them; you are eating from vineyards and olive groves you did not plant.’"

 

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Agreed. Anyone can convert to Judaism. Sammy Davis Jr, Elizabeth Taylor, Ruth and Jethro from the bible, are two biblical ones I can think of. Like Christians, Irish, "white" people, "black" people, Scot, Albanian, etc. CONVERT OR DIE was a Christian and Muslim custom. This led to crypto Jews, crypto Christians, crypto Muslims as well.

I talk more about black magic practicing fake converts escaping Egypt with the Jews in the Exodus on this thread.

The similarity of the New Testament to other beliefs, virgin birth, rising from the dead, cannot be overlooked. Religions are systems that effect your mind and behavior. Pagans pretended to convert but kept their satanic ways. Or acceptable like with the Catholic death cult, collecting remains of dead bodies, "saints" which are really their old gods. It goes on and on.

However, I do believe the Bible is true and from God. The flood of Noah is the mud flood!! It says it happened all over the world and it did! It's right there!! Other cultures know about it too!! The civilizations are those destroyed before this. Created by the evil angels or the good people or someone. The Bible gives us information and many puzzle pieces. Perhaps all of them. I am not learned enough to see them.

Red hair is an oddity but it occurs around the world. Albinos can have blond or strawberry red hair. Red haired giants and regular people pop up in the Americas, Egypt, Israel, everywhere! It is random around the world. The color of one's hair defines nothing and IMHO should not be used to know anything. When they have children, what color hair do their children have? Really I don't know. Is it.. red?



Sometimes I think there is no use in trying since the only info given is what we are told. Fritz Springmeier is considered a reliable source but why is he trusted? Don't overlords kill those people? This would be true about anything published or any information learned.

Are we led by the genius masterminds to dead ends for amusement? Are there REAL clues? Did they orchestrate ALL of this world wide reset but got sloppy hiding it? What do they benefit from hiding the truth from us? Can we topple them? Do we have magic powers or what?

Psalm 82:5-7
“The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. “I said, ‘You are “gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.’ But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”

Psalm 82:8
Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

All the nations are included in this. We ALL are the same to God. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist, Shinto, Europeans, Americans, Asians, and on and on. All all all of us are on the same level. No one is better or worse. We humans with souls.



I agree on ritualistic language. I believe images are a language too. Egyptians used pictographs and we are shown imagery on TV and magazines, religious artifacts, etc. Is this understood by our subconscious? Are we being programmed through the images we see through a pictographic language? They used to (probably still do) put images of popcorn in movies at theaters to encourage you to buy popcorn. It happened so fast, we could not see it, but our subconscious could. I talk more about semantics on this thread.

Immigrants to the US going through Ellis Island had their names changed or chose new names. In some cultures surnames came from whatever occupation they held. Arrow maker = Fletcher. Live near a river = Brooks. Strong armed = Armstrong. John's son = Johnson.

Surnames were necessary for taxing the people. Names don't lead to anything.



Joshua 24:13 "I gave you a land you did not labor for, and cities you did not build, though you live in them; you are eating from vineyards and olive groves you did not plant.’"

Images are important. Symbols are information packets that encode a "frequency" into your brain. It's why you see black cube statues everywhere something beautiful used to stand. But even those beautiful buildings had gargoyles and other shit on them.
Everything is ritualistic too. But even the rituals are inorganic wewuzzing. Like that dick ship with the dumb bitches in it? The pressurized pod with no scorch marks plops down and creates a dust spatter before it even touches ground, one of them tries to come out and opens the "pressure sealed vault" like it was made of cardboard then someone immediately closes it. "No no no, you can't come out yet it's not 3:33!"
These people also fake prophecy to fulfill it. It counts, and also doesn't count, at the same time. When you understand the fabric of reality is being artificially altered to reaffirm evil itself in every way, down to gematria, 666 600000 616 1666 33 32 44 444 everywhere it wakes you up to the fact that there are indeed spiritual forces, supernatural forces, but they're breaking their necks 24/7 dumping in huge amounts of effort to keep things this way. That tells you it's not natural. It's at least a hint that reality isn't intended to be hell, otherwise, why so much effort to artificially fulfill all of this garbage by mistranslating every god's name into another form of Saturn and giving yourself cosmic OCD so you're absolutely sure you make the devil horns at exactly 3:33 every media appearance? This level of effort does not follow natural design and function. The mechanics of reality have to be subverted for it to be this bad, and if they are, then that's the proof that hell on earth is made, not born as hell itself.

I agree with your all nations part. We're all the "Tribes of Israel" whatever that actually means, but again this just looks like wewuzzing. And that's the point. We ALL wuz, and we all laugh at one another because of that, and that's the point. Never act as warden to a fellow prisoner, because the system will go unpunished. That's why I crack up when people talk about slavery, reparations or that slavery was abolished.

Two slaves talking to each other about how "their" "country" did or didn't abolish slavery first, lmao

Maybe you and I can have a discussion about the nature of humanity, "gods" and divinity and magic somewhere else or maybe here if it won't be deemed inappropriate. I have years of thoughts and experience on this but it's hard to convey them with language.

The most important thing is faith. You may disagree with me on the specifics of faith, but faith is important, faith in yourself and unbreakable, beyond ignorant faith that nothing is above you. It may be conflated with pride in the Bible but I think pride is good, arrogance is bad, but the kind of pride I speak of is necessary in the world we live in. Never let something take power from you and never surrender your power or inner faith. It's better to line your soul and head with lead so nothing can make you doubt yourself, as long as you're moral and correct of course, that's the catch, hahaha. Through perfecting yourself, every second every day, you in a way become part of the spirit of perfection. If this were not true there wouldn't be hundreds of years of advanced military strategy devoted to keeping us retarded drug addicts.

 

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I have experienced burnout in these topics. Thankfully SH allows for far more nuance in these discussions, which is why I'm still here and still support those that remain.

burnout
- another important topic to explore.
Most of the old Flat Earth posters have quit forums altogether. After a while, you reach a dead end.
Geocentrism is an easy subject to examine with the Scientific Method. After you inspect the empirical evidence, done. Now what ?

History, on the other hand, is a pack of lies, rabbit holes, false witnesses.
How to retrieve lost data? When a computer program is rebooted, is there any way to retrieve lost data?
One of the things about gnosticism that appeals to me is the Hindu Akasha, the hall of records in the sky, which is also copacetic with the Prime Mover of Aristotle and ancient cosmologies about the 7 heavens ruled by the moon, Mercury, Venus, sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn (Satan) and the Ogdoad above all.
Which may mean that a permanent record is stored in the realms above earth, or maybe the hard drive of the operating system? Above the physical dome is the Ogdoad, etc. etc. but then we dive deeper into gnosticism than many people want to go.

Maybe not exactly what you're looking for but this is a start

Alternative Mega Theories

Thanks, but it's still TMI.
My wish is to see many prople post their gospels on a new thread.
Who made us? What is reality? 3 sentences or fewer.

 

[Tapioca]

Images are important. Symbols are information packets that encode a "frequency" into your brain. It's why you see black cube statues everywhere something beautiful used to stand. But even those beautiful buildings had gargoyles and other shit on them.
Everything is ritualistic too. But even the rituals are inorganic wewuzzing. Like that dick ship with the dumb bitches in it? The pressurized pod with no scorch marks plops down and creates a dust spatter before it even touches ground, one of them tries to come out and opens the "pressure sealed vault" like it was made of cardboard then someone immediately closes it. "No no no, you can't come out yet it's not 3:33!"
These people also fake prophecy to fulfill it. It counts, and also doesn't count, at the same time. When you understand the fabric of reality is being artificially altered to reaffirm evil itself in every way, down to gematria, 666 600000 616 1666 33 32 44 444 everywhere it wakes you up to the fact that there are indeed spiritual forces, supernatural forces, but they're breaking their necks 24/7 dumping in huge amounts of effort to keep things this way. That tells you it's not natural. It's at least a hint that reality isn't intended to be hell, otherwise, why so much effort to artificially fulfill all of this garbage by mistranslating every god's name into another form of Saturn and giving yourself cosmic OCD so you're absolutely sure you make the devil horns at exactly 3:33 every media appearance? This level of effort does not follow natural design and function. The mechanics of reality have to be subverted for it to be this bad, and if they are, then that's the proof that hell on earth is made, not born as hell itself.

It is manufactured. When they hint at an event before it happens it is called "predictive programming." It is a massive orchestration. "They" control everything and show us what they want. We are the stars of their show. I think with the Egyptian motif used it is like hieroglyphs come to life. The other stuff must be too but I don't know anymore about that.

One thing I would like to know is how many countries are participating in this? I know the English and Spanish speaking worlds are, as well as Korea. What about everyone else?

Sending up astronauts is a strange idea anyway. I'm sure there is an esoteric reason to even pretend to do it. Tower of Babel related. They tried to reach their sky god.

And where do all these numbers come from? Sometimes they are added, subtracted, multiplied, divided, are really letters or names, personalities??

I agree with your all nations part. We're all the "Tribes of Israel" whatever that actually means, but again this just looks like wewuzzing. And that's the point. We ALL wuz, and we all laugh at one another because of that, and that's the point. Never act as warden to a fellow prisoner, because the system will go unpunished. That's why I crack up when people talk about slavery, reparations or that slavery was abolished.

Two slaves talking to each other about how "their" "country" did or didn't abolish slavery first, lmao

Maybe you and I can have a discussion about the nature of humanity, "gods" and divinity and magic somewhere else or maybe here if it won't be deemed inappropriate. I have years of thoughts and experience on this but it's hard to convey them with language.

Slave vs slave keeps us distracted from those above controlling us like chess pieces. When the British left India, they had been causing animosity between Hindus and Muslims, leading to mass violence. They created Pakistan for this reason.

The role of the British colonialists in the Partition of India

"The British played a key role in the events leading up to the Partition, albeit unintentional. British colonial policies, particularly divide and rule, deepened the religious and social division between the two communities. Additionally the British decision to quickly withdraw from India without ensuring a clear political resolution to issues of power-sharing, contributed to the chaos that follow the Partition."​

I think this thread is perfect because it is about seeking the truth. Tartaria is a popular topic but a catch all term as well. Many things belong in this thread and everyone has something important to add.

The most important thing is faith. You may disagree with me on the specifics of faith, but faith is important, faith in yourself and unbreakable, beyond ignorant faith that nothing is above you. It may be conflated with pride in the Bible but I think pride is good, arrogance is bad, but the kind of pride I speak of is necessary in the world we live in. Never let something take power from you and never surrender your power or inner faith. It's better to line your soul and head with lead so nothing can make you doubt yourself, as long as you're moral and correct of course, that's the catch, hahaha. Through perfecting yourself, every second every day, you in a way become part of the spirit of perfection. If this were not true there wouldn't be hundreds of years of advanced military strategy devoted to keeping us retarded drug addicts.

I agree. Believe in your self and your intuition.

 

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It is manufactured. When they hint at an event before it happens it is called "predictive programming." It is a massive orchestration. "They" control everything and show us what they want. We are the stars of their show. I think with the Egyptian motif used it is like hieroglyphs come to life. The other stuff must be too but I don't know anymore about that.

One thing I would like to know is how many countries are participating in this? I know the English and Spanish speaking worlds are, as well as Korea. What about everyone else?

Sending up astronauts is a strange idea anyway. I'm sure there is an esoteric reason to even pretend to do it. Tower of Babel related. They tried to reach their sky god.

And where do all these numbers come from? Sometimes they are added, subtracted, multiplied, divided, are really letters or names, personalities??



Slave vs slave keeps us distracted from those above controlling us like chess pieces. When the British left India, they had been causing animosity between Hindus and Muslims, leading to mass violence. They created Pakistan for this reason.

The role of the British colonialists in the Partition of India

"The British played a key role in the events leading up to the Partition, albeit unintentional. British colonial policies, particularly divide and rule, deepened the religious and social division between the two communities. Additionally the British decision to quickly withdraw from India without ensuring a clear political resolution to issues of power-sharing, contributed to the chaos that follow the Partition."​

I think this thread is perfect because it is about seeking the truth. Tartaria is a popular topic but a catch all term as well. Many things belong in this thread and everyone has something important to add.

I agree. Believe in your self and your intuition.

Predictive programming also known as the Revelation of the Method, a ritual of the same practice where it's believed that if you show someone what you're gonna do and they do nothing about it that the karmaic burden is transferred to them.

Every country is captured. Every known one at least, and probably hidden ones too.

As far as India, and colonialism, we don't even know what happened there. At some point the East India company savaged their holy texts through mistranslation but this could only happen after replacement populations were moved in to an empty land. When all of this happened, who knows, but it's the same game every time. The world is a stage and we're forced to act on it. As if we've been stolen from our roots and imported as method actors, and stealing us was required so we didn't have the memory to acknowledge it was just a play. So we take it serious. That's why I ignore all of these events, they exist solely to capture your attention and thus your energy and steal it, because they're loosh rituals.

Symbols and language (look into reversed speech) are all part of predictive programming, revelation of the method, and subliminal messaging, to tune you to certain frequencies. This is all also part of a giant ritual to esoterically condemn all of us as being guilty of the sins of the slavers through witting or unwitting participation, forced or not.

I'm not saying I believe that holds weight, I'm just saying that they do. But there's nothing new under the sun, although there are new suns. Last thing they want is more and more people quitting the game, because then they have to act more directly. And they don't want to do that if they can avoid it because it means more cosmic number OCD and "work" to offset the "karma".

Consider also that if the entire world is a stage, we are also being forced into constant Masonic middle pillar rituals. The classic Hero's Journey, the ritualized concept of a boy transitioning into adulthood, and Hegelian dialectics, are all conducted upon us subtly through the news, events, things we talk about, things injected into the social sphere and the things we pay attention to, and the thoughts we program our mind with.

That's why I say ignore it, because dwelling on abomination, thinking about it over and over... almost ritualistically recreates it in your mind. It damages you.

"He who commits murder in his heart is a murderer" or some such, yes?

As for where the numbers come from, we're all better off not knowing. I do my best to forget it all.

Picture related.
"You keep me under your spell" gives 321 gematria, 2019 in latin. The clock is upside down because everything (and she) is inverted. She's in a downward triangle (feminine, water). The broken background negative space is an implied upward triangle (fire, masculine). But it's invisible, like her Animus or something, or maybe even broader. The clock is set to 11:10. 111, magic square of the sun, on the left. 61 on the right, 18th prime. The moon's average radius is 1080 miles, drop the zeroes, 18. So sun and moon. Miku is like "full moon" in that it's the same in forward and reverse ciphers. "Blue Hair Blue Tie" gives 666 in latin cipher. 666 is what connects the sun, moon, and earth.

The track length is 4:55. 455, 13th tetrahedral number. Uploaded 11/29/2022. 333rd day of the year. 1 × 1 × 2 × 9 × 2 × 2 × 2 = 144, 12th square. 12x12. There's a square in the background. 3 hearts as well.

This sort of stuff is everywhere. Maybe it's some sort of low grade hypnosis that works through people. Channeled, intentionally or otherwise."

Then you start seeing 4s and 44s everywhere, death numbers, and 33 32 666 616 911 11 1111. This is all part of seeping the entire realm in sin so we're all damned by the taint of the experiences they try to encode in us. Music being changed to a certain frequency after ww2? Water holding memory? Water being influenced by what you say, what is said, and what you see when you use hijacked language? Back doors for channeling in all music so all music you're exposed to comes from hell? Makes you think about the melted bells. I'm harming myself and you just regurgitating this. There's a degree to where it looks like this stuff can't possibly be manufactured but is the demonic nature of things seeping through and manifesting, but the degree that so much acting needs to be kept up implies there has to be some sort of a blood price to keep things emanating this way. So I agree, it's manufactured, but nearly incomprehensible to deduce the finer details of how and what is and isn't.

Strange and terrible times. Maybe we're in a hell world forever, maybe we're in a cloned version of another world for some folk, maybe not. Best to ignore it since it just leads you nowhere. Even this research. I can't help myself, I'm addicted to figuring things out, but I know it isn't exactly gonna put food on the table and only weighs down your soul unless you're of particularly rare character. This is a burden only a few can stomach.

So I am not surprised or bothered by the catch all label being applied to queer colored nephilim star children from the Black Moor Egyptian pyramid colonies. If anything it helps US filter things better.

 

[Tapioca]

The world is a stage and we're forced to act on it. As if we've been stolen from our roots and imported as method actors, and stealing us was required so we didn't have the memory to acknowledge it was just a play. So we take it serious. That's why I ignore all of these events, they exist solely to capture your attention and thus your energy and steal it, because they're loosh rituals.

That makes sense. I have never seen it from that perspective. Being a captured audience makes sense. I wondered why they keep showing us these masonic and MK things. I thought perhaps they were identifying each other like the secret handshake. They know who they are, its no secret to them. They would not any regular person on TV or tell us something important. Everything we are exposed to controls us is a frightening concept.

Worldwide, the stories of the gods / aliens taught humans to build, make weapons, war, music, hunt, etc. by the gods / ancient aliens. In the bible this did not happen but fallen angels interacted with humans. One and the same. A satan like evil god was part of that. Must be where it all began as they demanded sacrifices and rituals.

If that is where it all began, the solution is leaving society, live off the land, and meditate. We would be roving bands of chimps being attacked by stronger chimps stealing our food and using us as slaves. Or just murdered. Eh. Doesn't seem like a good solution.

Speaking of Loosh Rituals...

My father and from a small village were they practiced ancestor worship. He came to the US and married my white mother. He had our family participate in this ancestor worship.

We had a picture of his dead mother on a high shelf with electric candles and a statue of Kwan Lin (Buddhist deity). Every morning he would put a small bottle of grape juice in front, light incense and put it in a bowl of rice in front of her picture and pray to her quietly. He made all of us do it. Light incense, ask her for a good day or whatever we wanted, blow out the incense and put it in the rice, then shake our hands three times.

I remember my grandmother when she was alive and she was mean and shunned me. She said I could not be his daughter since I was so paler than him. I hated her and hated praying to HER. I asked why we did this and #1 being dead, she is an arbitrator to God, #2 incense smoke helps her travel to God, #3 she needed grape juice for energy.
The dead need something physical to power them in the spiritual world and reach God. Sacrifice. The grape juice probably symbolized blood and given by some probably. Incense is needed to interact with God.

I asked my dad why don't we pray to God himself? He said we could but my grandmothers deadness made her requests more powerful. Why don't we ask God himself? After creating humans he left and is off creating other worlds.

Symbols and language (look into reversed speech) are all part of predictive programming, revelation of the method, and subliminal messaging, to tune you to certain frequencies. This is all also part of a giant ritual to esoterically condemn all of us as being guilty of the sins of the slavers through witting or unwitting participation, forced or not.

I heard about reversed speech! I did it for a spoken word poetic album. Backwards, she said some words clearly but the rest gibberish.

As for where the numbers come from, we're all better off not knowing. I do my best to forget it all.

But 667 - 1 = 666!

Picture related.
"You keep me under your spell" gives 321 gematria, 2019 in latin. The clock is upside down because everything (and she) is inverted. She's in a downward triangle (feminine, water). The broken background negative space is an implied upward triangle (fire, masculine). But it's invisible, like her Animus or something, or maybe even broader. The clock is set to 11:10. 111, magic square of the sun, on the left. 61 on the right, 18th prime. The moon's average radius is 1080 miles, drop the zeroes, 18. So sun and moon. Miku is like "full moon" in that it's the same in forward and reverse ciphers. "Blue Hair Blue Tie" gives 666 in latin cipher. 666 is what connects the sun, moon, and earth.

The track length is 4:55. 455, 13th tetrahedral number. Uploaded 11/29/2022. 333rd day of the year. 1 × 1 × 2 × 9 × 2 × 2 × 2 = 144, 12th square. 12x12. There's a square in the background. 3 hearts as well.

This sort of stuff is everywhere. Maybe it's some sort of low grade hypnosis that works through people. Channeled, intentionally or otherwise."

You may be interested in this book. It is about unpacking are work by MK survivors and their alters.
They Know Not What They Do = Fritz Springmeir

Strange and terrible times. Maybe we're in a hell world forever, maybe we're in a cloned version of another world for some folk, maybe not. Best to ignore it since it just leads you nowhere. Even this research. I can't help myself, I'm addicted to figuring things out, but I know it isn't exactly gonna put food on the table and only weighs down your soul unless you're of particularly rare character. This is a burden only a few can stomach.

I like hearing different ideas. There is so much information out there I could not find on my own. I especially like to hear from other cultures. I only know the English speaking world. So much information that is inaccessible.

 

[Akanah]

To this day, it remains somewhat unclear to me exactly what Tartaria was supposed to be—or what it is associated with—but I have noticed that, in the context of Tartaria, reference is often made to architectural structures that I would characterize as Roman in nature;
this is because these buildings frequently appear monumental and place their focus on the State as a structure of authority.
However, in my hometown of Chemnitz, I am also familiar with many Art Nouveau buildings that, in some way, seem to convey a more individualistic and bourgeois message—one that is free from the intrusion of an overbearing State.

It appears to me that, beneath the surface of the Tartaria narrative, there may in reality lie a struggle between two human movements: one that seems inclined to place its reliance on the State as a power structure, while the other places its trust in the citizenry. And given that the Tartaria narrative frequently highlights those colossal structures, I am led to suspect that this may well be a controlled psychological operation—one potentially designed to resurrect the notion of a great Tartarian Empire.

Conversely, the bourgeoisie—along with the Art Nouveau buildings, which actually appear far more harmonious and creative—would be further destroyed.

 

[feralimal]

To this day, it remains somewhat unclear to me exactly what Tartaria was supposed to be—or what it is associated with—but I have noticed that, in the context of Tartaria, reference is often made to architectural structures that I would characterize as Roman in nature;
this is because these buildings frequently appear monumental and place their focus on the State as a structure of authority.
However, in my hometown of Chemnitz, I am also familiar with many Art Nouveau buildings that, in some way, seem to convey a more individualistic and bourgeois message—one that is free from the intrusion of an overbearing State.

It appears to me that, beneath the surface of the Tartaria narrative, there may in reality lie a struggle between two human movements: one that seems inclined to place its reliance on the State as a power structure, while the other places its trust in the citizenry. And given that the Tartaria narrative frequently highlights those colossal structures, I am led to suspect that this may well be a controlled psychological operation—one potentially designed to resurrect the notion of a great Tartarian Empire.

Conversely, the bourgeoisie—along with the Art Nouveau buildings, which actually appear far more harmonious and creative—would be further destroyed.

As far as I can make out, the history we have is the history of the governance system - everything is framed within its narrative, as if it was ever so.

Maybe it wasn't so though, maybe different groups lived in overlapping areas under whatever governance system they chose, eg a Tartarian village would have its laws, a Muslim or Turkish village its laws, Chinese or Greek villages, etc - with no overarching structure, so no king/voting. Maybe some people/villages didn't even have a very formal hierarchy. And that was ok.

Once the overarching governance system rolls through a place though, putting in place ownership, systems of law, soldiers/police etc the past is then framed as if the old system was lawless and that that was a bad thing, when it was actually a more natural, free way to live. It is explained in a way so that people don't want to go back to those 'lawless times'. And mostly people buy into this framing.

So yes, I agree, that the narratives about the past aren't that important - perhaps they are controlled. The important thing is that they end up supporting the framing of the present - which is ever greater authoritarian control. Perhaps we would be allowed to choose 'Tartarian-flavoured' governance, if that was more palatable, but what the governance system does not have on the menu is less governance.