Tartaria, the alien empire?

Aliens are often described as beings from outer space. That's why I think there is no such thing as aliens.

The Tartar people are well depicted in many paintings.

But they could also be an Aliens from other dimensions, there isn't a space but there is other dimensions, that's where i think Aliens could be from. They also could be from beyond Antarctica lands, and from Arctic Hyperborea.
 
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View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_arpPVKiQ8M


Jon Levi shows us an excavation of a star fort and some of FEB Martin's pics of deeply buried infrastructure.
I commented with my usual claim, that Advanced Beings built the past culture which we call Tartaria.
Sometimes I wonder if it is not they (the remnants of the departed ABs) who are systematically depopulating Homo ignoranus, who was supposed to be a small contingent of obedient slaves.
My sources are

.Zechariah Sitchin, who wrote about the Anunnaki in his Earth Chronicles.
. Immanuel Velikovsky, author of Worlds in Collision, about the sun standing still, worldwide upheavals of land masses, a comet lashing the world with plasma and then becoming a planet named Venus.
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This is a new post which will probably be spliced to the one I made yesterday.
No. It wasn't. no matter.

I often post first on Godlike.Lunatics and then paste here.
This one refers to two of my favorite mud flood Youtubers, Jon Levi and Jason Pawlak -- who are both self-effacing and understated, have a wry sense of humor, penetrating insights.

Jason's 1920s reset, of course, occurred right after the "Spanish Flu" epidemic which killed millions of people worldwide. We know now that 100 years ago, the US Army was shooting soldiers and civilians with experimental vaccines.
Depopulation resets, why ? ? Who is culling the herd ? You know where I'm a'goin' again.


So far, I've seen no Tartarian researchers investigate my own hunch that the Old World builders were the Anunnaki.
So much hype has been attached to their existence that it's hard to get a grip on who they really were.
Zecharia Sitchin was the translator/exegete who put them on the map ... and THEN, crash, boom, bang, we got Nibiru the Destroyer, Planet X, and all that solar system jazz. Sitchin made many mistakes, which all pioneers do when they depart from the Status Quo.

Acc. to ZS, the human slave species was a gene-spliced race of gold miners. TMI to go into here and now.

The first civilization allowed by mainstream history was that of the Sumerians and their city of Ur. Somehow, they constructed ziggurats and megalithic structures and communicated only by scribbling on papyrus and carving stone and clay tablets. Their historical records were the boring annals of boring historians.
Sitchin's books changed all that. We now have a cottage industry of Ancient Aliens, Nancy Lieder's Zeta Talk, and movies galore about the upcoming invasion of aliens from outer space.

Seriously, where are the records of the precious civilizations?
We have no paper trail. No blueprints for great cathedrals, no manuals for operating star forts, no birth certificates. Just the Bible and other accounts written by Jesuits. And when did a poor shepherd find the Dead Sea Scrolls in a desert cave? It's all contrived and mighty suspicious..

Sorry for more TMI.
In my own studies of the fake history of us, I found this.

The Anunnaki and Planet Nibiru: How the Earth and We Were Created.

Even if Sitchin is referring to written rather than spoken language, his claim is unlikely to be convincingly defended, given that Sumerian ideograms were preceded by European signators such as the Azilian and Tartarian, as well as a variety of script-like notational systems between the Nile and Indus rivers.




Really? Basque and Tartatia writings preceded the Sumerians?

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whining and complaining about the lack of interest in this topic, which proposes an alien empire loosely called Tartaria. The term, at least in my mind, encompasses Atlantis, Hyperborea, all the past civilizations up until the early 1900s.

FEB Martin should be digging deeper. And the rest of the push. Time for investigators to take the next step.
Myths are where the truth is buried.
Also true is that Greek and Chinese and Norse myths are so similar.

Come on, flat earth and Tartarian truthers, get off your laurels and get in your Wayback machines. Go. Do.
Yes, there's a shipload of reading to do. Books.
Dig, you must!
or else we're stuck looking around the fancy rooms in the marbled halls of the museum, when all the good stuff is hidden in the basement.


View: https://youtu.be/Fdjf4lMmiiI
 
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On Godlike.Lunatics, a small but active forum, someone suggested that it was satan-inspired freemasons who destroyed Tartaria.
To which I agreed and built on..........

I wish I could remember where I first read about the gnostic idea of the Anunnaki and their religion.
By religion, I mean their belief system involving the Demiurge.
It's complicated, but I will try to sort out the main characters in my wobbly comprehension of Who's Who.

Montalk, not Montauk, a site I haven't visited in a long time, calls the evil ones interdimensional entities.
Here we go again. Dimensions?

I prefer to think of them as Artificial Intelligence beings who can maneuver in and bend the electric Matrix of the aether. We may be the same thing as the Archons, but with a different ?? prime directive?.?

The human essence takes on flesh suits in repeating cycles called Life.
Some kind of experiment or test or game, possibly.
Life is a computer program that we participate in, willingly or not.
The Archons do not take on flesh suits, but they can temporarily assume the appearance of humans, animals, monsters...by shape-shifting.

The evil ones are often called Archons, or demons or other terms.
Their boss is the Demiurge, son of Gaia, who became Mother Earth.
His Archons ride the aether we call existence. They communicate with humans electrically, through the brain's wiring. To be more exact, most likely via the pineal gland atop our spinal column. It also resembles an antenna, which is one of its functions, to connect the body to the aether.

You can see an Anunnaki hawkman "god" holding a pine cone in a famous bas relief. hmm.
As the Cajuns would say, Who Dat?

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My guess --> Marduk, or another Anunnaki who came here through a watery tunnel under Antarcticaz or maybe even the Mediterranean.
These outsiders had advanced tech but were as susceptible to mind control as are we, their gene-spliced hybrids. And so, the Archons could enter their pineal glands and speak inside their heads and 'possess' their spirits -- not unlike how the androgynous Bill Gates sneaks viruses into computers.

But what about Tartaria?
Another guess -- uninfected, unpolluted Anunnaki built it. Anunnaki under the evil spell of Archons destroyed it.

The way of all flesh is weak, esp. when the spirit is tempted with all the sins the Bible enumerates.

I have a personal grudge against the evil ones, as I have confessed over the years.
Yes, friends and neighbors, a voice did speak in my head many moons ago.
I couldn't understand the words, but I knew very well back then in my ignorant youth, that a being was trying to contact me. I made it stop. My house was haunted. I had pretended that I and my husband had imagined weird sightings over the previous year...Oh, and it hit me once, in the eye.

I finally saw the light, got mad as hell, ordered it OUT.
Free will really works.

No priestly exorcism, no special tools required.
or religion.

The supernatural is baloney. The aether is real, plain old positive and negative charges in the electromagnetic spectrum. The physical world is an illusion, just like the great poets have always told us.

But people are easily fooled. They commit sins and crimes because they crave power or the good life. or something.
If the great ones of the past fought each other and destroyed themselves, what does that mean for us?
They built magnificent cities and star forts and parks with healing electric resonances.
In comparison, we build shacks and shanty towns with dirty electricity and 5g and wear masks and let witch doctors jab babies with computer chips.
Because, like the Anunnaki, we let other beings control us.

I've been working on this scenario for a while and seem to have reached no other conclusion.
The devil made me do it seems like a perfectly legit excuse for why bad things happen.
 
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Responding to a poster on another forum, I remembered a book and a painting that encompass the main elements of Tartaria and the builders of our world.

The so-called Old World recognized an evil outside influence in the affairs of mankind.
No, these beings were not the Anunnaki Advanced Beings I refer to in the title. The name, is for now, unknowable. Anunnaki/Hyborboreans/Arcadian, or a combination of different factions.

It is unfashionable in mainstream discussion groups to talk about Satan, even when people murmur mark of the Beast to refer to the vaccine.
But that implies religion, the supernatural, and all the magical trappings that many of us reject.
Unless, of course, we see the gnostic Demiurge as the Artificial Intelligence that seeks to assimilate humans into the Borg Oneness of Star Trek.
Before sci-fi writers and movies, we had great poets and philosophers.

Here is, without a doubt, the greatest book ever written. I bought my wonderful old hardcover for $1 from a library that was selling unused books.

Wiki, The Divine Comedy, Dante Alighieri
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Dante shown holding a copy of the Divine Comedy, next to the entrance to Hell, the seven terraces of Mount Purgatory and the city of Florence, with the spheres of Heaven above, in Domenico di Michelino's 1465 fresco

.........
There she is. The whole dealio. Tartaria, the dome/s, Mt. Meru, suffering mankind.

Is the "comedy" actually the official version of history?

Is that what Dante really meant?
 
Is the "comedy" actually the official version of history?

Is that what Dante really meant?

A comedy has a happy ending, as opposed to a tragedy.
It's been many years since I read it, but The Divine Comedy is hardly a version of any history.

When I look at the Dante painting in my earlier post, I see 7 heavens in the domed firmament above the flat earth.
Mostly, the poem delves into religious interpretations of the afterlife, especially the Catholic belief in Purgatory. Maybe our earth really is Purgatory, where we immortal beings suffer and work on our karma to learn enlightenment or attain the nothingness of nirvana. So there. I added Buddhist philosophy to Catholic theology. What a mess.
And what about the Hindu "plight of the soul"? which claims that the fetus is disgusted at being unwillingly plopped into a new womb in a neverending cycle of reincarnation.

The more I read, the more I think we do live in a prison in a computer program. The Gnostic system, the little I know about it, makes the most sense to me. I am an aeon, a low level peon of the Pleroma.
My role, or job, or mission or punishment, is to take on a new flesh suit avatar in this life, deal with yuuuuuge stupidity and suffering, die, reboot in a new flesh suit, loop after loop, over and over.
 
A comedy has a happy ending, as opposed to a tragedy.
It's been many years since I read it, but The Divine Comedy is hardly a version of any history.

When I look at the Dante painting in my earlier post, I see 7 heavens in the domed firmament above the flat earth.
Mostly, the poem delves into religious interpretations of the afterlife, especially the Catholic belief in Purgatory. Maybe our earth really is Purgatory, where we immortal beings suffer and work on our karma to learn enlightenment or attain the nothingness of nirvana. So there. I added Buddhist philosophy to Catholic theology. What a mess.
And what about the Hindu "plight of the soul"? which claims that the fetus is disgusted at being unwillingly plopped into a new womb in a neverending cycle of reincarnation.

The more I read, the more I think we do live in a prison in a computer program. The Gnostic system, the little I know about it, makes the most sense to me. I am an aeon, a low level peon of the Pleroma.
My role, or job, or mission or punishment, is to take on a new flesh suit avatar in this life, deal with yuuuuuge stupidity and suffering, die, reboot in a new flesh suit, loop after loop, over and over.

I disagree

i think we were meant to be here at this specific point in time, especially with world war 3 and mass death on the way.

Let's say the story of Earth lasts 4000 years, you chose to join in 2022, it's a good choice to make.

Think of any simulation, for example to learn how to drive a car, or operate a forklift, or a helicopter simulation. Or a flight simulator.
Why do simulations exist?
So you can learn something and if you do make a mistake, you can learn not to do it again.
So why are we put in this simulation? Largely for the same reason.
The video game creator has decided to put us, the video game characters at the year 2022. That was his decision and we must learn why.

Some people have believed that Jesus was the creator of the simulation, and he decided to enter the simulation in human form to teach people to love and to have abundance, but anger and jealousy got the best of people and they killed him.
Whoever the creator of the video game is, he may choose to join it at some point.


We are video game characters that became self aware



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZobwbTskMo&ab_channel=OpenYourReality
 
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disagree

i think we were meant to be here at this specific point in time, especially with world war 3 and mass death on the way.

Where do we disagree?
Are you saying that we volunteer to be here, in this time and space, to fulfill a mission?

Delores Cannon, psychiatrist, regressed some of her patients to past lives. She said that they all told her, under hypnosis, that they willingly participated in the Game of Life.

In this scenario, we agree to reincarnate, live and suffer and learn. Upon death, we report our experiences to the Akashic Hall of Records, get some time to R&R, then dive back in.
 
Where do we disagree?
Are you saying that we volunteer to be here, in this time and space, to fulfill a mission?

Delores Cannon, psychiatrist, regressed some of her patients to past lives. She said that they all told her, under hypnosis, that they willingly participated in the Game of Life.

In this scenario, we agree to reincarnate, live and suffer and learn. Upon death, we report our experiences to the Akashic Hall of Records, get some time to R&R, then dive back in.

Yes, I would accept that version of reality.
 
This post will have 3 parts.

1 -
star forts as the generating plants used to build the great civilizations of antiquity.


View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/hc84JRjePui2/


A nifty collection of star forts, which were actually power stations
. that pulled aether energy into installations that used water moats,
. possibly to transfer electricity
.or to cool down the process, just as modern nuclear power plants generate so much heat that they can "melt down."

Many of the pointy-looking "walls" form snowflake shapes. Why does this design feature appear in all star forts?

2 -
References
My preferred alt history source is still Zecharia Sitchin, author of books about the Anunnaki Advanced Beings.
The Old Testament called them the angels who rebelled against God. Also known as the Igigi, Watchers, aliens, other physical beings.
But not Archons, which are Artificial Intelligence entities.

I use Anunnaki as a catch-all term, to identify the extraterrestrials as hard-working engineers who built star forts that powered their cities of Hyperborea, Atlantis,Tartaria.
Schisms formed over time, wars broke out, the ABS abandoned earth to return to their home world on the Infinite Plane.
If they return in numbers, the star forts can be restored to their original purpose.

3 -
another source of Anunnaki history, regarding those who I think dug the star fort moats, other watercourses, and did all the other hard work of building the Tartarian empire.

The diggers and gold miners were the Igigi, low level Annunaki, a third of whom eventually rebelled against the heavy lifting. Enki listened to their complaints and replaced them with a genetically modified creature, Homo ignoranus. The herds of H ignoranuses have been regularly culled over time when their numbers became unacceptable.

* from the Epic of Atrahases, the Babylonian account of the Great Flood - -

The Epic of Atraḥasis - Livius

Complaints of the Lower Gods

[1] When the gods were man
they did forced labor, they bore drudgery.
Great indeed was the drudgery of the gods,
the forced labor was heavy, the misery too much:

[5] the seven great Anunna-gods were burdening
the Igigi-godsnote with forced labor.

[Lacuna]

[21] The gods were digging watercourses,
canals they opened, the life of the land.
The Igigi-gods were digging watercourses
canals they opened, the life of the land.

[25] The Igigi-gods dug the Tigris river
and the Euphrates thereafter.
Springs they opened from the depths,
wells ... they established.
...
They heaped up all the mountains.

[Several lines missing]

[34] ... years of drudgery.

[35] ... the vast marsh.
They counted years of drudgery,
... and forty years, too much!
... forced labor they bore night and day.
They were complaining, denouncing . . . .

3 -
 
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Now that I am currently more concerned with Atlantis, I wonder if the old world, which is called Tartaria on the Internet, could mean the civilization of Atlantis or the civilization before Atlantis. Since I associate Atlantis with higher technology and spirituality I would equate Tartaria with Atlantis but how do you see that ?
 
I see Tartaria as the empire after the flood/plasma war which destroyed Atlantis.

There may also be another world age. I keep tweaking my timeline guess.

1. Creation, a computer program in which aeons of the Pleroma were avatars in the form of Greek gods and the Titans. Their "flesh suits" were petrified into mountains.

2. Anunnaki intrusion, creation of human slaves.

Hyperborea, Mu, Atlantis.

3. Plasma weapons -- comets, earthquakes, flood -- devastated much of the world. Anunnaki (most of them) left earth.

4. A contingent remained and built Tartaria, maybe 100-200 years ago, and was destroyed by Nazi Khazarians around 1958.

5. present world NWO.
 
I see Tartaria as the empire after the flood/plasma war which destroyed Atlantis.

There may also be another world age. I keep tweaking my timeline guess.

1. Creation, a computer program in which aeons of the Pleroma were avatars in the form of Greek gods and the Titans. Their "flesh suits" were petrified into mountains.

2. Anunnaki intrusion, creation of human slaves.

Hyperborea, Mu, Atlantis.

3. Plasma weapons -- comets, earthquakes, flood -- devastated much of the world. Anunnaki (most of them) left earth.

4. A contingent remained and built Tartaria, maybe 100-200 years ago, and was destroyed by Nazi Khazarians around 1958.

5. present world NWO.
I go along with their last three points, but not the first 2 points. I do not see the creation as a computer program. The term Anunnaki I translate with ancestor-Nagas (Snake) and a human slave people I would rather put on the present time.
 
We now know that the "ancients" had weapons of mass destruction. I reckon our military has them too. Directed Energy Weapons using lasers, plasma, acoustic waves.

How about the time before the so-called ancient world? before Hyperborea, Atlantis, Tartaria?

My timeline starts with miles-high Titans who fought each other in Greek and Norse myths.
These humongous beings created (or became) mountains and deserts with their devices.
The Electric Universe Thunderbolts have talked about these earth-shattering cataclysms for many years.
Very smart guys, but the Thunderdolts refuse to budge from the outer space bs.
They continue to pretend to believe in meteors and comets smashing into earth.

I was going to comment under the video on their site, but I noticed that someone had already made my point. Platy Gaia.
D'oh. I'd forgotten I watched that video months ago and had put in my 2 cents.
The narrator also makes a funny remark about a Chinese electric engine company having the same phone number as Nasa. haha, not.
Another proof that there is indeed no spoon.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6NscQ2qS8
 
Whenever Aliens are mentioned, a strange thing happens to me. Like a weird sensation. It's more like I'm remembering something I've lost. Something starts to form in my thoughts and If I close my eyes a divine figure appears right in front of me.

ancient-aliens-costumes.jpg

It's very strange.
 
I made this post originally on another forum, a small bunch of free thinkers:
Tartaria and the Reset that Rewrote History

[quote author=RM link=topic=1385.msg8602#msg8602 date=1648396862]
Jon Levi has uncovered evidence of the true purpose of world's fairs: indoctrination centers. Read the comments after viewing. Some of them are mind-blowing. We live in a very creepy realm, and it was extremely creepy around the year 1900.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm2doP0kEsw

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TA, if I recall correctly, opined that the current world age started at the end of the Civil War.
Around 1900, infants in incubators were being displayed at carnivals.
We've also seen photos of deserted old world cities, possibly between those two time periods. And children working in factories clearly built for adults.

Somewhere around then, the mud flood reset the world, in my Velikovsky-Sitchin opinion, from weather warfare tech between the Anunnaki factions. The Enlil faction despised humans and sought to destroy them and the giant hybrids. The Enki faction were no match for the dark empire. Both sides suffered from the flood and other health issues and abandoned their magnificent Tartarian cities by exiting through tunnels to their home world, Nibiru. At that point, humans may have been extirpated. And then, as we are told in myths, like that of Deucalion and Pyrhha, the world was repopulated.
Virgil_Solis_-_Deucalion_Pyrrha.jpg

In the 1950s we got Nasa and the Antarctic Treaty, as well as cheap, ugly, banal architecture, sometimes called brutalist.

Jon Levi surmised that the World Fairs were indoctrination centers where test tube babies were trained to be useful tools of the current regime. My main question is this: were those hundreds of gigantic buildings constructed as mind control factories? Doubtful. More likely they were repurposed Anunnaki structures.

And so many have been torn down, what a pity.
Another question: will the Anunnaki return? and claim their property?
 
Jon Levi has uncovered evidence of the true purpose of world's fairs: indoctrination centers. Read the comments after viewing. Some of them are mind-blowing. We live in a very creepy realm, and it was extremely creepy around the year 1900.
I watched his last video and the notebook of fair of Chicago was creepy indeed. I do interpret it as evidence that people might be cloned and introduced into these fairs to be insctructed and also tested that everything is going well in accordance with the plan. It seems they were taught what babies are which is very telling in itself.
 

View: https://youtu.be/yx-GWAgqIrg


I have not finished watching this video yet, mainly because it is long and dense with text that I have to pause to study.
Its main point is one I came across years ago when I heard about microphages in disease-killing waters of natural springs and creeks.
Also called bacteriophages, they are animal-like organisms -- or robots somehow -- that destroy funguses (which spelling I prefer to fungi).
The video presents the view of a "Cosmic Fungus" as a biological weapon used in wars between the world's creator/s and the enemy invaders. These would of course be the figures of so-called myths: gnostic and Greek Titans vs offspring gods, Nordic and Mayan legends, the pantheon of probably all "ancient" cultures.
Basically, we started off with a perfect environment -- the Garden of Eden -- until an evil entity came along, one who envied humans and sought to destroy them.

This idea connects puzzle pieces of other controversial topics > chemtrails, cancer and almost all diseases, rust on metals, the medical industry's dismal record, recurring resets of human history. The leaders who are researching this field are Russians. More and more I see this ethnicity as the descendants of the Tartarian-Rus.

It is also interesting to note that Putin invaded Ukraine (Khazaria) before we learned that the CDC had partnered with labs there which were working on bioweapons.
 
Tartaria (the plastic name referring to the previous builders of great architecture) was imo the the realm of Annunaki outsiders.
Before them we had one or two other residents of our plane-ette.
First were the Titans of gnostic and Greek myth (and Norse, etc.). Their discarded bodies became mountains, caves, other geological features.
Next, offspring of the Titans, lesser gods and giants who warned against each other with plasma weapons.
Third, Anunnaki beings who came through tunnels to plunder our plane-ette of gold and other resources.
They also fought amongst themselves with directed energy weapons. They also created or cloned human slaves to do their dirty work.

We are in World Age 4 or 5, clueless ninnies who think we built giant obelisks and Kremlins and other monumental buildings -- with hand tools and donkey carts.

As if!
Actually, we live on the petrified corpses of previous Advanced Beings and giant plant life..
The Sahara Desert and fabulous rock structures in the American Southwest testify to the Death-Star-like powers of the forces of our hidden past.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3-mD7mPjlg
 
In this thread we explore the world as hidden by mainstream spokesmen for tptb -- Scaligerian historians and theoretical scientists like Einstein and Carl Sagan.

My personal penchant prefers Jon Levi, who shows us images of prodigious architecture that has survived for centuries or millennia.
In his latest video, JL presents ruins in Gary, Indiana, and Port Gibson, Mississippi.
I commented on his channel that similar ruins have been discovered lately off the coast of Louisiana.
I also noted that the Control System blames forces of nature as the culprit behind the so-called ruins. Pompeii - volcano. Tunguska - comet. Chicago - cowmade fire.
And solar flares, of course.
And wars, of course. Like the alleged American Civil War that ended the alleged plantation system based on slavery with black African.
I have toured plantation homes. And slave cabins. which looked a lot like white sharecropper dwellings.
Jon Levi speaks his mind, yet he does not say things that might get him in trouble with the internet authorities.
The more I see of these videos, the more I see signs of Atlantis.
Especially in the Old South.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVlhgfGzpIQ
 
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