Tartaria, the alien empire?

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We will never know the true history of our realm.

A wild guess follows
1. Golden Age, Creation, 1000 years ago, Gaia, Uranus, whoever they were, possibly aeons of the Pleroma who coded the Earth computer program -- ended peacefully??
2. Silver Age, 800 years ago, the Titans, children of the old ones, lots of fights, world was upheavaled with fire and brimstone
3. Bronze Age, 600 years ago, giants, more wars, the Great Flood
4. Iron Age, 400 years back, beings from outside our plane-ette arrive to mine gold, build Atlantis and Hyperborea, make wars with plasma weapons which petrify all living things.
5. Copper Age? 200 years ago, the Tartarian Empire, which may still linger in a degraded condition. The mud flood and Directed Energy Weapons impacted the infrastructure and decimated numbers of human slaves.

It looks like, maybe, we are teetering on the edge of the end of the last Age.
And then ? ?
a new computer program for us to live action role play in?

 

[Quiahuitl]

The oral tradition of America gives a frame of reference.

I've studied the Nahuatl tradition and also the Book of the Hopi (still available on Amazon- by Frank Waters) and they agree the Earth has moved through distinct phases.

The last time the Earth was completely destroyed and reset was via flood, according to both sources. That agrees with the European tradition. The Mexican tradition says that was 6000 years ago.

Prior to that the previous Earth was destroyed by being covered in Ice. The Book of the Hopi describes how the one God commanded his two nephews, whose job it was to hold the Poles in position, to release their grip. The book was written around 1915, long before Western Science realised pole shifts were a thing.

The Earth before that was destroyed by Fire. The Mexican tradition says the great pyramids were built before this. When the Earth was consumed by fire, everyone was turned into turkeys.

The Mexican calendar says that the quality of the Sun's energy changes every 6500 years, and the entire world changes every time that happens. As predictable as clockwork, according to the Toltecs.

 

[Akanah]

I recently read somewhere about the theory that people had periodically experienced great catastrophes on earth and decided to build monumental structures or leave ancient tablets that could survive this catastrophe. Through these monuments and tablets, human knowledge should be preserved for posterity.
For this reason, the pyramids of Giza and the Mayans are said to transmit a lot of knowledge about mathematics and astronomy.
It would also explain why the Egyptian hieroglyphs have been decoded by someone as glyphs for electrical and plasmatic processes. It would also explain the representation of light bulbs.
Perhaps the story of the atomic bombing from World War II was reproduced on the Sumerian tablets.
Theoretically the world tree Yggdrassil with the 9 worlds could also refer to the knowledge of 9 planets.
The I Ching from China could transmit the binary code of computers or the DNA code.
The Dharma wheel in India is simply a wheel for chariots and has nothing to do with karma.
The web of beads of the Indian god Indra represents the idea of the Internet.
Perhaps the 4 solar ages of the Mayans refer to the 4 seasons: Jaguar Sun for spring, Fire Sun for summer, Wind Sun for autumn and Water Sun for winter. The 5th earthquake sun could stand for the reset sun.
But this would mean that we care about ancient buildings and mythology for nothing if they were built only for the preservation of knowledge. Or one has forgotten for what purpose these ancient buildings were built and therefore interprets them wrongly.

 

[Shadow11]

I just started this forum and I definitely would like to hear your thoughts on a lot of things. My personal beliefs are of the dome and that there are multiple around us. Regarding the wandering stars and their moon I always associated them to other lands. So for example Mars is sun over its land we just see their light. like our sun's name is sol. I've also always believed in the black sun Sophia or amun. The vortex of intention beneath us. Only recently have I seen videos like vibes of cosmos associate the black sun with showing how it projects the sun and moon. But I've always associated it with intention towards our reality and the source. (Hard to explain and some is spirtual- not religious). Have you read the story nos confunden is promoting? I'm going to skip a lot but a few sections talk about a great war it was the tartans who were half giants fighting for human freedom. They lost and ran from the reset and they are now in hiding beyond the wall at the moving island of thoth. I don't know how true because this is an account of someone beyond the wall.

 

[DimeTX]

Space aliens? little green men?
I don't even believe in space. I am a flatearther.

The Infinite Plane proposes that other worlds exist outside earth's Antarctic rim. The Anunnaki entered our world, probably through an underground tunnel under the oceans. These advanced beings bio-engineered humans to do their dirty work.

As for "ancient knowledge," this site is devoted to the recovery of the best evidence we can find of so-called cultures supposedly thousands of years in the past. My timeline compresses millennia to centuries.

History has been written by those who conquered the Tartarians.
Greek, Roman, Norse, Hindu, Mayan, etc. -- experienced the same events and interpreted them differently. Their gods were, in my opinion, Anunnaki explorers, engineers, scientists, and other interlopers who participated in the computer program we call reality.

I also believe in flat earth but what I do believe is in the Satanic AI Borg system being here all along. That may explain why there were no bathrooms in any of the buildings. All fake aliens are demons there is no million miles of space only a firmament that is no more then 300 miles up. Underground is the real outer space.

 

[DimeTX]

I just started this forum and I definitely would like to hear your thoughts on a lot of things. My personal beliefs are of the dome and that there are multiple around us. Regarding the wandering stars and their moon I always associated them to other lands. So for example Mars is sun over its land we just see their light. like our sun's name is sol. I've also always believed in the black sun Sophia or amun. The vortex of intention beneath us. Only recently have I seen videos like vibes of cosmos associate the black sun with showing how it projects the sun and moon. But I've always associated it with intention towards our reality and the source. (Hard to explain and some is spirtual- not religious). Have you read the story nos confunden is promoting? I'm going to skip a lot but a few sections talk about a great war it was the tartans who were half giants fighting for human freedom. They lost and ran from the reset and they are now in hiding beyond the wall at the moving island of thoth. I don't know how true because this is an account of someone beyond the wall.

I also believe in flat earth but what I do believe is in the Satanic AI Borg system being here all along. That may explain why there were no bathrooms in any of the buildings. All fake aliens are demons there is no million miles of space only a firmament that is no more then 300 miles up. Underground is the real outer space...

 

[Otavio]

I also believe in flat earth but what I do believe is in the Satanic AI Borg system being here all along. That may explain why there were no bathrooms in any of the buildings. All fake aliens are demons there is no million miles of space only a firmament that is no more then 300 miles up. Underground is the real outer space...

I personally think that the story of Nos Confunden is another one that was "planted" to deceive us and discourage attempts to "escape" from this prison. They put things as if the outside world was practically taken over by enemies. I also think the story is pretty silly. The interesting thing is that they always use parts of the truth to build their lies.

 

[PantaOz]

I used to be quite militant, but the only way to counteract these non-human invaders is not violence, but peace, not hate, but love, not fear, but courage. Once humanity reclaims its heritage (as beings with a Divine spark) we can drive these Parasites from our realm.

True... they feed on anger, fear and negative emotions... or anything that makes us feeling bad. Peace, tranquility, love destroying them most effectively !

 

[Gold]

There's more than one way to skin a cat(fish).
Resets also too.

. virtual memory wipe, collective amnesia (details sketchy, maybe aetheric mindsweep) ???
. wars, plagues, massive population changes, rewrites of history books
. deluge, flood, local mudfloods (weather modification, HAARP)
. comets and asteroids from "space", aka thunderbolts of the gods (Directed Energy Weapons)

Here is an odd event that happened near where old maps place Tartaria:

www.nasa.gov
› feature › amesTunguska: 111-Year-Old Mystery Inspires New Asteroid ...
Jun 27, 2019 · Tunguska Revisited: 111-Year-Old Mystery Impact Inspires New, More Optimistic Asteroid Predictions. Every single day, many tons of tiny rocks – smaller than pebbles – hit the Earth’s atmosphere and disintegrate. Between frequent shooting stars we wish on in the night sky and the massive extinction-level asteroids that we hope we never see ...

Author: Abigail Tabor
Publish Year: 2019

| EarthSky

› space › what-is-the-tunguska-explosio
When the sky exploded: Remembering Tunguska | Earth | EarthSky
On today’s date 113 years ago, the largest asteroid impact in recorded history struck on a warm summer morning in Siberia, Russia. We observe Asteroid Day each year on June 30, on the anniversary of what’s now known as the Tunguska explosion. The explosion happened over the sparsely populated northern forestland above the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in what is present-day Krasnoyarsk Krai. The blast released enough energy to kill reindeer and flatten an estimated 80 million trees over an area of 830 square miles (2,150 square km). Witnesses reported seeing a fireball – a bluish light, nearly as bright as the sun – moving across the sky. A flash and a sound similar to artillery fire was said to follow it. A powerful shockwave broke windows hundreds of miles away and knocked people off their feet. Yet decades passed before anyone could explain the event.
See full list on earthsky.org

You need to go over the material in these threads. It's disturbing though.


https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32990003/#33014385
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32974201/#32981470
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25044583/#25044713
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32825354/#32825354
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/33013016

Try and read EVERYTHING. A new thing I've noticed being talked about lately is prison planet theory, and the white light that tricks you and sometimes pulls you into reincarnation as well as these hell astral torture cities. There's also several past life regression hypnotists lately all independently from different people in different languages with different colleagues such as Cagolero Grifasi coming up with memories during hypnosis of aliens sucking off peoples energy, implanting them, a net above the earth that traps souls and so many other things. It ties into Sitchin according to this OP and Wes Penre and Wingmakers.
What's ODD to me is........ all of the people put under past life regression hypnosis spout a conventional timeline. That I have seen at least. Conventional history, no mention of stuff we talk about here, but also people unrelated to this have come see or experience a "grid" that runs through the material as well as something keeping anyone from leaving this place.

I've come to a lot of horrifying theories including but not limited to instant targeting once someone leaves the body somehow from interference with chemicals and such or us already being in a virtual prison like Icke talks about (simulation within a simulation within one) and now I'm worried about implanted memories from those incubators. I don't know but it's taken a lot of sleep from me. I'd really like to be free after this life and not just a recycled AI meant to suffer, lmao

 

[Starfire]

The oral tradition of America gives a frame of reference.

I've studied the Nahuatl tradition and also the Book of the Hopi (still available on Amazon- by Frank Waters) and they agree the Earth has moved through distinct phases.

The last time the Earth was completely destroyed and reset was via flood, according to both sources. That agrees with the European tradition. The Mexican tradition says that was 6000 years ago.

Prior to that the previous Earth was destroyed by being covered in Ice. The Book of the Hopi describes how the one God commanded his two nephews, whose job it was to hold the Poles in position, to release their grip. The book was written around 1915, long before Western Science realised pole shifts were a thing.

The Earth before that was destroyed by Fire. The Mexican tradition says the great pyramids were built before this. When the Earth was consumed by fire, everyone was turned into turkeys.

The Mexican calendar says that the quality of the Sun's energy changes every 6500 years, and the entire world changes every time that happens. As predictable as clockwork, according to the Toltecs.

I also have Waters' Book of the Hopi and have read and refered to it multiple times over the years. But... I recently saw a great interview on leak project with Hopi Elder Martin sharing the Hopi prophecies now unlocked from the Library of Congress. He said that Waters got a lot wrong. I'm not sure yet what was wrong or right. Here's that interview.


View: https://youtu.be/616tS3dKzYc


Thanks for mentioning the Nahuatl, I'll look at their origin stories. You said they agree with Waters' Hopi version, so that must be a part he got right! (Whew! I'm tired of the parts of 'history' that I like best turning out to be bullshit.)

Your information about the Mexican/Toltec cycle of 6500 years has another connection. The Precession of the Equinoxes is a 25,920 year astronomical cycle caused by the tilt in the earth's axis. The Zodiacal constellation that rises on the Spring/Vernal Equinox determines which age we are in. Currently we are moving from Age of Pisces into Age of Aquarius. It can be measured in different ways and is not an exact science. (Apparently Marduk started a war when the start of his rule at the start of the Age of Taurus wasn't figured to his liking.) Polaris is currently our pole star, but 15,000 years ago it was Vega.

Or maybe that's all lies I've been told too. It's hard to know. There is an excellent but hard to find book about the Precession of the Equinoxes called Hamlet's Mill. Worth the read if it's online now. If you have some time on your hands.

Anyway, four periods of the Toltec's 6,500 years = 26,000 years. Pretty close correlation. So there must be a different pull on earth as we slowly rotate backwards through the Zodiac and pass each of the main pole stars (Polaris, Vega, etc). It could be that they are closer and exert more force at regular time frames of 6,500 years and cause cataclysms. Or it could be that the quality of the Sun's energy changes and this causes the cataclysms. For example, highly electrical Sun energy could case the electrical burn patterns on various parts of our planet. Or a cold or distant sun would allow ice to form and an ice age to start. And very hot or close Sun energy could cause ice to melt and flood the planet. A very active sun with plasma sun flares could have caused that burn mark across the Sahara and Middle East.

Thank you for stimulating my mind.

 

[anusandhitsu2002]

You need to go over the material in these threads. It's disturbing though.


https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32990003/#33014385
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32974201/#32981470
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25044583/#25044713
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/32825354/#32825354
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/33013016

Try and read EVERYTHING. A new thing I've noticed being talked about lately is prison planet theory, and the white light that tricks you and sometimes pulls you into reincarnation as well as these hell astral torture cities. There's also several past life regression hypnotists lately all independently from different people in different languages with different colleagues such as Cagolero Grifasi coming up with memories during hypnosis of aliens sucking off peoples energy, implanting them, a net above the earth that traps souls and so many other things. It ties into Sitchin according to this OP and Wes Penre and Wingmakers.
What's ODD to me is........ all of the people put under past life regression hypnosis spout a conventional timeline. That I have seen at least. Conventional history, no mention of stuff we talk about here, but also people unrelated to this have come see or experience a "grid" that runs through the material as well as something keeping anyone from leaving this place.

I've come to a lot of horrifying theories including but not limited to instant targeting once someone leaves the body somehow from interference with chemicals and such or us already being in a virtual prison like Icke talks about (simulation within a simulation within one) and now I'm worried about implanted memories from those incubators. I don't know but it's taken a lot of sleep from me. I'd really like to be free after this life and not just a recycled AI meant to suffer, lmao

If we're truly trapped or farmed by other intelligent races or by incomprehensible gnostic being, the most terrific and sanity-shattering aspect of this is- considering how our realm is designed and for particular purpose, thoughtful persons like us in this forum are a form of defect or bug in the system. It implies that it's always probable that we'll be exterminated or tormented or simply be deleted from the system or anything worse than that could happen to our self. Lets deal with it.

 

[Gold]

If we're truly trapped or farmed by other intelligent races or by incomprehensible gnostic being, the most terrific and sanity-shattering aspect of this is- considering how our realm is designed and for particular purpose, thoughtful persons like us in this forum are a form of defect or bug in the system. It implies that it's always probable that we'll be exterminated or tormented or simply be deleted from the system or anything worse than that could happen to our self. Lets deal with it.

I'm not sure how to deal with it. But I've been thinking about it.

 

[Quiahuitl]

Anyway, four periods of the Toltec's 6,500 years = 26,000 years.

Hey I only just saw this post.

Yes, the four 'Sun cycles' of approx 6500 years add up to one 'Long count' in the Nahuatl tradition which is the same as the precession of the equinoxes as you have described. The tradition says that every time we change from one 'Sun' into the next, the Earth experiences changes so for example the laws of physics could change or the map of the Earth. We are currently changing from the 'Tecpatl Sun' into the 'Quetzalcoatl Sun.'

I've been told that the difference between the Maya and Nahuatl calendars is the Maya divides the long count into 5 cycles instead of four, so it's remarkable that the Maya calendar changed in 2012 as the Nahuatl calendar is changing too - that hasn't happened in 26000 years!

I've also been told the reason for the phenomenon we know as the precession of the equinoxes is that the Sun orbits Alcyon, which is the largest star in the Pleiades. Our Sun is said to be one of the Pleiades. In the Toltec cosmology the Pleiades are said to be inside the fixed stars. The Toltecs described 13 heavens

1) Our immediate biosphere, where we live - the surface of the Earth.
2) The physical body of the Moon, the winds and the clouds.
3) The physical body of the Sun, Venus and the Pleiades
4) The fixed stars
5) The moving stars (Planets) and comets.
6) The place where energy and matter mix
7) The dreaming body of the Moon, which is also the Mictlan - the land of the dead and also the place of normal dreaming.
8) The dreaming body of the Sun, which is where the ascended masters go
9) Your personal star, which is the source of your individuation (Ego)
10) The cosmic womb - much like bardot realms in the Eastern tradition. Where souls go to be incarnated.
11) The four Tezcatlipocas or primal essences which drive all of creation.
12) Mr and Mrs two - the perfectly balanced couple. We have Lucifer here lol
13) The one energy, where there is no duality. Also called the Black Eagle.

So the Sun and Moon are both dual just like every human has a physical body and a dreaming body.

The Sun is the combined energy of all the ascended masters and angels etc. It leads us towards our highest destiny as in several other traditions I've become aware of since joining this forum.

The great pyramid complex at Teotihuacan has a mile-long central avenue which is aligned some way off North. Apparently it is aligned to the point where the Pleiades first appear in the Sky.

I wonder if 'Zion' that it talked about i.e. somewhere We need to return to is the same as Alcyon.

 

[Jd755]

Yes, the four 'Sun cycles' of approx 6500 years add up to one 'Long count' in the Nahuatl tradition which is the same as the precession of the equinoxes as you have described.

How did you verify the precise length in the tradition is accurate?

 

[LostDogLooking]

When will this shift into 5D happen? Many has mentioned it and have failed at predicting a correct date.

My personal belief is that the date the shift happens is different for each individual...

 

[Ponygirl]

If we're truly trapped or farmed by other intelligent races or by incomprehensible gnostic being, the most terrific and sanity-shattering aspect of this is- considering how our realm is designed and for particular purpose, thoughtful persons like us in this forum are a form of defect or bug in the system. It implies that it's always probable that we'll be exterminated or tormented or simply be deleted from the system or anything worse than that could happen to our self. Lets deal with it.

Here's what I have from Honey C Golden's YouTube channel. The earth is toroidal and we live on the top, on 1/4 of it under a dome that was put up to give the rest of the earth 1000 years of peace.

This was because the Anunnaki came to town 70k years ago, a 4th density group, and hit our 3D world and became divided. This might apply to the idea of 1/3 of the angels 'falling', or succumbing to the duality of earth.
They wanted gold and some of the anunnaki( a-fish-na-ki(earth), they were the hybrids of the Lyran/Nummo experiment, so some of the anunnaki loved the humans and continued the way of the sacred feminine, while others went for the toxic masculine.

War broke out for many years until Atlantis(headquarters for the neg/anunnaki) sank and the sacred feminine started to get worried that the whole world would be blown up, so they asked some higher beings to put up a dome that would hold the negatives while Earth went through a void is space that would allow the negative to take over completely.

Now, the positive Anunnaki who'd spent years mixing with the humans to form the Tartarians. Heaven on Earth was created; free energy from beautiful buildings--all of which we only have a remnant left, had a 1000 years of peace. They watch us like on the Truman Show or Westworld, because we humans were stuck as slave inside the dome with the negatives.

200+ years ago, a parasite smelled the fear and evil that was going on in the Dome and like a fly laying it's maggots on dead meat, came in to finish off the job. These were the Tall Grays who share a hive mind with the Archons/AI, whatever soulless creature is out there devouring life--and these grays really got things going in the Dome. The negative Anunnaki went from just tyrannical to downright evil in a hurry.

The grays lived on death--they were so low in their frequency that they could only consume energy that was at the base of the scale--FEAR. They came in around the late 1700s and there we have a history of the world at war, a 9 month comet(1812) that split up--and earthquake in the midwest that lasted 8 months, and fire and destruction everywhere.

But the Grays were smart and were stealing children for a while while they killed off the adults. Then they used a frequency machine that sank everything up to 15 feet into the earth(mud flood).

The Grays were actually bummed that the buildings only sank and didn't disappear altogether. (I've always wondered why I was spooked by quicksand.)

Next came the World's Fairs were the Grays put the, now adult children into the fairs with a passport(Jon Levi) on how to conduct themselves in the new world that had been created. Newly born babies were displayed in incubators as give-a-ways for the adults to take home with them.



Now the Earth is going back towards the central sun and full on spiritual light(nothing can stop what is coming-Q) and the harvest is about to happen as the Earth ascends and for the first time ever--takes her children with her. If you're reading this, it's most likely that you heard the call to incarnate into Earth to help raise the frequency or all of the humans would have been lost to the dark.

 

[robgreen12345]

Here's what I have from Honey C Golden's YouTube channel. The earth is toroidal and we live on the top, on 1/4 of it under a dome that was put up to give the rest of the earth 1000 years of peace.

This was because the Anunnaki came to town 70k years ago, a 4th density group, and hit our 3D world and became divided. This might apply to the idea of 1/3 of the angels 'falling', or succumbing to the duality of earth.
They wanted gold and some of the anunnaki( a-fish-na-ki(earth), they were the hybrids of the Lyran/Nummo experiment, so some of the anunnaki loved the humans and continued the way of the sacred feminine, while others went for the toxic masculine.

War broke out for many years until Atlantis(headquarters for the neg/anunnaki) sank and the sacred feminine started to get worried that the whole world would be blown up, so they asked some higher beings to put up a dome that would hold the negatives while Earth went through a void is space that would allow the negative to take over completely.

Now, the positive Anunnaki who'd spent years mixing with the humans to form the Tartarians. Heaven on Earth was created; free energy from beautiful buildings--all of which we only have a remnant left, had a 1000 years of peace. They watch us like on the Truman Show or Westworld, because we humans were stuck as slave inside the dome with the negatives.

200+ years ago, a parasite smelled the fear and evil that was going on in the Dome and like a fly laying it's maggots on dead meat, came in to finish off the job. These were the Tall Grays who share a hive mind with the Archons/AI, whatever soulless creature is out there devouring life--and these grays really got things going in the Dome. The negative Anunnaki went from just tyrannical to downright evil in a hurry.

The grays lived on death--they were so low in their frequency that they could only consume energy that was at the base of the scale--FEAR. They came in around the late 1700s and there we have a history of the world at war, a 9 month comet(1812) that split up--and earthquake in the midwest that lasted 8 months, and fire and destruction everywhere.

But the Grays were smart and were stealing children for a while while they killed off the adults. Then they used a frequency machine that sank everything up to 15 feet into the earth(mud flood).

The Grays were actually bummed that the buildings only sank and didn't disappear altogether. (I've always wondered why I was spooked by quicksand.)

Next came the World's Fairs were the Grays put the, now adult children into the fairs with a passport(Jon Levi) on how to conduct themselves in the new world that had been created. Newly born babies were displayed in incubators as give-a-ways for the adults to take home with them.



Now the Earth is going back towards the central sun and full on spiritual light(nothing can stop what is coming-Q) and the harvest is about to happen as the Earth ascends and for the first time ever--takes her children with her. If you're reading this, it's most likely that you heard the call to incarnate into Earth to help raise the frequency or all of the humans would have been lost to the dark.

Do you think Tesla was an Alien?

 

[Ponygirl]

Do you think Tesla was an Alien?

Interesting question. I think that before the Dome went up, we were a universe-wide culture as in Lord of the Rings. I've heard the Telsla's grandmother remembered the 'old ways'--the time before the Dome. There might have been humans who wrote down what the world was like before the Dome and taught it to their children. The Grays didn't come until 1796(?) so Tesla's grandmother might have avoided the mind control and taught it to her children. People might have hid the tech in caves--it's what I would have done. We give credit to aliens for everything without considering that we might be just as smart or smarter. What if the Tartarians were the shrunk-down-interbred with humans Anunnaki? That kind of hybrid would bring together a higher technological group with the humans who were linked by their DNA to the earth and all her wisdom--it would be a powerful combination. Who needs aliens?

 

[AntiSoof]

In my opinion a very enjoyable and insightful story, most of it is already known on "Stolen History," but together it provides a good overview:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=725M8e0D-7A&t=1s