SH Archive Tartary - an Empire hidden in history. It was bigger than Russia once...

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pulls the strings
Answering who pulled the strings of previous civilisations gets increasingly more difficult the more 'lost' territories we discover.
The Muslim control over Tartaria might be either later in the timeline or be restricted to those near-east/eastern Europe territories.
The name Tartaria could also be a subject to propaganda. Hell/Tartarus could be invented to make Tartaria look bad or the country itself was called something different by natives.

According to Iranian tradition and images, Muhammad was a Chinese looking person. How is it possible?
Adds to the confusion, mixing up Moguls for Mongols, Mongols for Chinese and now Chinese for Muslims?
 
My question is before I bother doing any more research on Tartaria is how much actual information do you have on it? How of it is speculation and doubting official narrative and not actual evidence?

I've been reading conspiracy theories since before I got on the internet and some of these ideas only appeared after the invention of the Internet.

I moved your post to this thread. Please read the entire thread to answer your questions.
 
There is a lady on Youtube uploading videos on Tartaria. Very interesting stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/c/ExploringTartaria/videos
She basically claims that Jesus ruled Earth for 1000 years, and that this was the Tartarian empire.

I enjoy listening to her vids because of how pleasant her voice is. But other than that, it seems like more speculation from her part than fact. Either way, worth a watch for anyone on a quest for knowledge.
 
tartaria = old world empire intent now as internet psyop as "good guys aether" building makers.

they are the empire before new world order. research mapuche who resisted inca tartar empire and spanish invasion, both created by the same eagle... scythians are tartarians phoenians moors, caaananites relate, controlling the world
reset 1492 and 1000 (ianus janus reset i000 j000) are the keys

proofs: data cross over is by fomenko and graphics made by a spanish proffesor collegue (sorry for me english)

tartaria as qanon are algorithm to control the narrative, stolen history dot org was destroyed because of that and kd replaced (?).

sh dot org talking about kobid1984 and cosmos related to the chronology and buildings geometry...

they use forums for data mining for next resets.

they use fake historians and books ad bible to promote tartaria as good guys (dont relate it to aether,is like nazi relation to the creation of cars, were the people, not nazi ideology)

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i tried to make this a thread but was told i need to explain it more or provide "proof" eh anyways here it is


The Meti Theory

to the tartaria / oldworld (past future present ) - the figure of 8 / the loop

get youre thinking caps on (mines made from tinfoil) and open up the part of your brain where anything is possible and be open to new ideas.

what if the future is the past and the past is the future and we are living in the now ? the beggining is the end and the end is the begginging of this timeline. the great reset.
like a figure of 8 loop set off by a complex time displacement device, perhaps something will lead to a nuclear or some sort of apocalpse and cause certain a certain group, or maybe a rougue a.i from a alternative timeline to use the device to turn back time ( not sure what you would call it , i dont know much about psychics , although i know anything is possible. "in fact the word impossible says im-possible"

its rather strange in many old photos how there appears to be hardly anyone present.
i do think everything is connected and linked in space time, perhaps "jesus" is not dead yet and we are living the "bible times" the whole AD thing is werid, anyhoo maybe these are the "end of days" i think CERN and the year 2012 plays a huge role in all of this.
other years to take into account in our modern age would be 1984 -1950's 1800-1900 - 2021 all connected.

i believe we have been visited by people from the future. and people from the past, now this gets complex depending on how you view the timeline , but by now you may be able the grasp the bigger picture of what im trying to explain.
it would appear as if all the structures around the globe are placed exactly where they are meant to be, planned for a future or past event. seeing as its all connected and intertwined.
as we all know that those are simply just not buildings...
and the technology is clearly being hidden. perhaps there are still portals open between this world , the old world the past and future depending on how you view it that could be to the future /past.
perhaps we are the ones living in the past and in the olden days.

anyhoo i dont believe any of this has actually happened yet, but what ever happens happened.

pchyics is quite a pain in the arse.
perhaps the confusion is created by the illusion of time, the indoctrination of time , thinking that it is constantly moving fowards, not taking into consideration the back and forth and side to side.

curious on anyone elses similiar theorys , or if this resonanates with anyone else.
i have had a few discussions with various people who are making videos on youtube and many have not heard this theory but agree or think its possible to what i am saying.

if you want me to eloborate on anything ive just said feel free to post what you are wondering as ive been rather broad and can explain alot more in further depth ive written this quite quickly whilst i was on the bus, by the way to anyone else in land of down under or the land on top how ever you might put it, does it look like a nuclear bomb went off in the northern territory / western australia . i really think it looks like a nuclear bomb has gone off in the center of australia. or something

this website is full of great information, i just thought this part was missing. thanks for reading and have a lovely day/night.

history is written by those who have hanged heros
 
tartaria = old world empire intent now as internet psyop as "good guys aether" building makers.

they are the empire before new world order. research mapuche who resisted inca tartar empire and spanish invasion, both created by the same eagle... scythians are tartarians phoenians moors, caaananites relate, controlling the world
reset 1492 and 1000 (ianus janus reset i000 j000) are the keys

proofs: data cross over is by fomenko and graphics made by a spanish proffesor collegue (sorry for me english)

tartaria as qanon are algorithm to control the narrative, stolen history dot org was destroyed because of that and kd replaced (?).

sh dot org talking about kobid1984 and cosmos related to the chronology and buildings geometry...

they use forums for data mining for next resets.

they use fake historians and books ad bible to promote tartaria as good guys (dont relate it to aether,is like nazi relation to the creation of cars, were the people, not nazi ideology)

Your presentation of this information is excellent. Thank you.
 
i tried to make this a thread but was told i need to explain it more or provide "proof" eh anyways here it is


The Meti Theory

to the tartaria / oldworld (past future present ) - the figure of 8 / the loop

get youre thinking caps on (mines made from tinfoil) and open up the part of your brain where anything is possible and be open to new ideas.

what if the future is the past and the past is the future and we are living in the now ? the beggining is the end and the end is the begginging of this timeline. the great reset.
like a figure of 8 loop set off by a complex time displacement device, perhaps something will lead to a nuclear or some sort of apocalpse and cause certain a certain group, or maybe a rougue a.i from a alternative timeline to use the device to turn back time ( not sure what you would call it , i dont know much about psychics , although i know anything is possible. "in fact the word impossible says im-possible"

its rather strange in many old photos how there appears to be hardly anyone present.
i do think everything is connected and linked in space time, perhaps "jesus" is not dead yet and we are living the "bible times" the whole AD thing is werid, anyhoo maybe these are the "end of days" i think CERN and the year 2012 plays a huge role in all of this.
other years to take into account in our modern age would be 1984 -1950's 1800-1900 - 2021 all connected.

i believe we have been visited by people from the future. and people from the past, now this gets complex depending on how you view the timeline , but by now you may be able the grasp the bigger picture of what im trying to explain.
it would appear as if all the structures around the globe are placed exactly where they are meant to be, planned for a future or past event. seeing as its all connected and intertwined.
as we all know that those are simply just not buildings...
and the technology is clearly being hidden. perhaps there are still portals open between this world , the old world the past and future depending on how you view it that could be to the future /past.
perhaps we are the ones living in the past and in the olden days.

anyhoo i dont believe any of this has actually happened yet, but what ever happens happened.

pchyics is quite a pain in the arse.
perhaps the confusion is created by the illusion of time, the indoctrination of time , thinking that it is constantly moving fowards, not taking into consideration the back and forth and side to side.

curious on anyone elses similiar theorys , or if this resonanates with anyone else.
i have had a few discussions with various people who are making videos on youtube and many have not heard this theory but agree or think its possible to what i am saying.

if you want me to eloborate on anything ive just said feel free to post what you are wondering as ive been rather broad and can explain alot more in further depth ive written this quite quickly whilst i was on the bus, by the way to anyone else in land of down under or the land on top how ever you might put it, does it look like a nuclear bomb went off in the northern territory / western australia . i really think it looks like a nuclear bomb has gone off in the center of australia. or something

this website is full of great information, i just thought this part was missing. thanks for reading and have a lovely day/night.

history is written by those who have hanged heros
I just happened to stumble across THIS forum in my searches on "missing years" (RESETS... PLURAL) in timelines. The first post above by... xxometeotl ... REALLY grabbed my attention. I looked through every one of the images and began with ancient maps. In the midst of all of random searching, I found myself looking at Exodus and Leviticus. Every symptom those people had for "leprosy" is also that of RADIATION FALLOUT <<-- Ark of the Covenant. The link for the site, easy to read: www. kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Ark-Of-The-Covenant/ ..... THIS =>> is the point where the Ark of the Covenant is ablaze. (My interpretation: the word LORD ~ Also occasionally refers to the Ark). www. kingjamesbibleonline.org/Leviticus-Chapter-10/ <-- LEVITICUS

Chapter 10 : LEVITCUS​

1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered **STRANGE FIRE** before the LORD, which he commanded them not.

2 And there went out fire from the LORD (the ARK), and devoured them, and they died before the LORD.

3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it that the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.

4 And Moses called Mishael and Elzaphan, the sons of Uzziel the uncle of Aaron, and said unto them, Come near, carry your brethren from before the sanctuary out of the camp.

5 So they went near, and carried them in their coats out of the camp; as Moses had said.

6 And Moses said unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons, Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people: but let your brethren, the whole house of Israel, bewail the burning which the LORD hath kindled.

7 And ye shall not go out from the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: for the anointing oil of the LORD is upon you. And they did according to the word of Moses.

=== CONTINUE READING at the Website I POSTED ABOVE. (I just found out links are not permitted here). THERE IS MUCH MORE DETAIL THEREAFTER. The people are commanded to NOT eat or drink from the land, or even use plates/bowls..etc.. lest they will die.

Jeremiah 3:16 - And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.
I just happened to stumble across THIS forum in my searches on "missing years" (RESETS... PLURAL) in timelines. The first post above by... xxometeotl ... REALLY grabbed my attention. I looked through every one of the images and began with ancient maps. In the midst of all of random searching, I found myself looking at Exodus and Leviticus. Every symptom those people had for "leprosy" is also that of RADIATION FALLOUT <<-- Ark of the Covenant. The link for the site, easy to read: www. kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Ark-Of-The-Covenant/ ..... THIS =>> is the point where the Ark of the Covenant is ablaze. (My interpretation: the word LORD ~ Also occasionally refers to the Ark). www. kingjamesbibleonline.org/Leviticus-Chapter-10/ <-- LEVITICUS

Chapter 10 : LEVITCUS​

1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered **STRANGE FIRE** before the LORD, which he commanded them not.

2 And there went out fire from the LORD (the ARK), and devoured them, and they died before the LORD.

3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it that the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.

4 And Moses called Mishael and Elzaphan, the sons of Uzziel the uncle of Aaron, and said unto them, Come near, carry your brethren from before the sanctuary out of the camp.

5 So they went near, and carried them in their coats out of the camp; as Moses had said.

6 And Moses said unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons, Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people: but let your brethren, the whole house of Israel, bewail the burning which the LORD hath kindled.

7 And ye shall not go out from the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: for the anointing oil of the LORD is upon you. And they did according to the word of Moses.

=== CONTINUE READING at the Website I POSTED ABOVE. (I just found out links are not permitted here). THERE IS MUCH MORE DETAIL THEREAFTER. The people are commanded to NOT eat or drink from the land, or even use plates/bowls..etc.. lest they will die.

Jeremiah 3:16 - And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.
@metitarvel
Thus far, my limited research has me believing that the Ark of the Covenant had radioactive/unstable elements inside it, which was accidentally accelerated. (BOMB) Plumes of smoke and fire that could be seen far and wide are mentioned. The event killed thousands... survivors ended up with conditions which they labeled as Leprosy. Leprosy is caused by bacteria and is not immediate. Those people, in a short time after the Ark incident, developed skin lesions/blistering/bleeding. == Timelines: This is something they'd erase from history.... adjust time lines (more than once).... hijack heritages.... population reduction... begin fresh with orphans... no memories. Old World/New World.
tartaria = old world empire intent now as internet psyop as "good guys aether" building makers.

they are the empire before new world order. research mapuche who resisted inca tartar empire and spanish invasion, both created by the same eagle... scythians are tartarians phoenians moors, caaananites relate, controlling the world
reset 1492 and 1000 (ianus janus reset i000 j000) are the keys

proofs: data cross over is by fomenko and graphics made by a spanish proffesor collegue (sorry for me english)

tartaria as qanon are algorithm to control the narrative, stolen history dot org was destroyed because of that and kd replaced (?).

sh dot org talking about kobid1984 and cosmos related to the chronology and buildings geometry...

they use forums for data mining for next resets.

they use fake historians and books ad bible to promote tartaria as good guys (dont relate it to aether,is like nazi relation to the creation of cars, were the people, not nazi ideology)

www (dot) hisdates.com/years/1492-historical-events.html
My comprehension of what you've stated is that there was a Reset in 1492, the year Columbus was claimed to have "discovered" America.
i000 and j000 .... I have seen some photos of Old Coins which had the letter J and the letter I in front of the year. They may have purged them from google search, since I cannot find them again. Instead of book burning, they're purging information from the internet.
 
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I looked up Tartarian photographs and I see that the tall people fit right under the top of the door frames. And they are much closer to the ceilings that are so high. It becomes apparent that they were here, at least some of them, after cameras were discovered because they got photographed.

My maternal grandparents lived in a house with a huge, wide, very tall, thick, wooden front door. On Lake Erie near Cleveland. A deep red brick mansion supposedly built in 1925, but looking old to me when I was young in 1960.

I now think it was Tartarian, due to the architecture, the high doorways and ceilings, the copper Dormer, the woodwork with Gargoyles in the huge entrance room/foyer, chubby angelic paintings (?) on the 3rd floor curved ceiling, a very unusual underground air conditioning system and even a jail cell in the basement.

Having read earlier that iron might be an EMF deterrent of antiquity, perhaps what I perceived as a jail cell with iron bars was actually a safe spot. But it looked like a jail cell and I was horrified when I went down there and saw it. I asked my grandmother what it was for and she said to lock up the liquor so the servants wouldn't steal it. I did not believe her.
Can you please describe the AC system? Or the jail cell? Was there the presence of weird basement windows?
I also wonder why would they have needed EMF protection back then before the advent of WiFi, I suppose the obvious answer is that Earths own magnetic fields were prone to causing natural disasters or perhaps there was technology back then that played a similar role to WiFi in terms of being harmful that they knew about and wanted protection from.
tartaria = old world empire intent now as internet psyop as "good guys aether" building makers.

they are the empire before new world order. research mapuche who resisted inca tartar empire and spanish invasion, both created by the same eagle... scythians are tartarians phoenians moors, caaananites relate, controlling the world
reset 1492 and 1000 (ianus janus reset i000 j000) are the keys

proofs: data cross over is by fomenko and graphics made by a spanish proffesor collegue (sorry for me english)

tartaria as qanon are algorithm to control the narrative, stolen history dot org was destroyed because of that and kd replaced (?).

sh dot org talking about kobid1984 and cosmos related to the chronology and buildings geometry...

they use forums for data mining for next resets.

they use fake historians and books ad bible to promote tartaria as good guys (dont relate it to aether,is like nazi relation to the creation of cars, were the people, not nazi ideology)

Are you saying the old empire was merely the old model of beast system?
I've been considering that. It seems like there were maybe more good things available to the public then than now though, if the average person could go to a chapel to receive sound frequency healing and now you get robbed at the doctors to receive expensive treatments that mostly hurt you. I could be wrong though. But I can't make a lot of sense of this post lol
 
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Anyone else finds it rather irritating how people don't seem to tell the difference between Tatar and Tartarian?
 
Anyone else finds it rather irritating how people don't seem to tell the difference between Tatar and Tartarian?
Both seem to be exonyms though. Don't know how accurate the translation of the article is, but it tells that "Tartarias" on western maps correspond to "Hordes" on Russian maps. The name Tatar was made up by some German historian in Romanov Russia to bundle a lot of different Siberian people together. There was also a period of morphing of the maps - Tataria---> Tartaria.

To me it's all the same, one name calls them savages, while other means hell. From the stuff found on this forum it appears that neither are true.
 
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Sometimes I find it is easier and helpful to determine what something is by eliminating what it is not. Officially wiki tells us that Tartary was just a tract of land. Many have raised the point that Tartary would not have a flag if it was just a geographic region. Some maps also show that there was Chinese, Grand, and Petite Tartary, and even Crimean Tartary.

I find it fascinating that this "region" has an emperor. Interestingly, Moguls are on here simultaneously and some have said on this forum that Moguls and Tartars are synonymous. I love the pervasiveness of gryphons on these flags and the dragons. What do you guys think?
 
I don't believe it's China, more probably India;););)
Time showed us that it was in fact in Ukraine and possibly Taiwan.
I was also checking the previous covers of The Economist magazine and I think they had been telling us that for a long time in 2020.

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Trump, Brexit, Artificial Intelligence, Tokyo, Mars, Climate, Xi Jin Ping, Recession, Diversity, Beethoven

The cover of The Economist is based on survivalism, also known as "Preppers", a movement of people who actively prepare to survive a possible dystopian future. They have been preparing for years, whether for instability in the political and social order, or for natural disasters at the local, regional, national or even global level.

What do you think about this?
Look women's trousers and shoes = Ukrainian Flag
Children's T-shirt, trousers and shoes = Russian flag and war helmet.
And other details in particular like the reset on the clock.

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I would just like to briefly chime in. Thought some of you would enjoy this 1903 image from our family history. Originating from what we now call "Ukraine". Traced back as far as 1853.(Posting from phone)
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I would just like to briefly chime in. Thought some of you would enjoy this 1903 image from our family history. Originating from what we now call "Ukraine". Traced back as far as 1853.(Posting from phone)
The costume looks very much like the typical one in the state of Nayarit, Mex. above and the others are Serbian at the bottom.

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The people of Nayarit are very famous for their representations of imaginary creatures called alebrijes, among which the Dragon constantly appears. In the region it is also very common to find Bicephalous Eagles among the local handicrafts.

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The costume looks very much like the typical one in the state of Nayarit, Mex. above and the others are Serbian at the bottom.

The people of Nayarit are very famous for their representations of imaginary creatures called alebrijes, among which the Dragon constantly appears. In the region it is also very common to find Bicephalous Eagles among the local handicrafts.

VERY interesting. Thank you for sharing
 
In the centuries of history being written by the winners of conflict both open and covert, it is clear that something is being hidden. You don't have to know the truth to know you are being lied to. Entire libraries of ancient knowledge have been ransacked, looted, and burned. The old knowledge still exists, but it is clearly being obscured. The Smithsonian either destroyed or are hiding the bones of the people who once lived in North America, and the oral traditions of dozens of native tribes tell of these once great people. The proliferation of maps, flags, the line of Emperors, the innumerable references to this elder civilization and the concerted and pervasive effort to erase it from history... It is impossibly naive and deliberately obtuse to suggest that it is all a fantasy.
 
Anyone else finds it rather irritating how people don't seem to tell the difference between Tatar and Tartarian?

Well, in most of the countries they used to live or fight with, the name was understood as a synonym for the other! In the history was the same! Some of the Balkan rulers needed to send their sons to the Tartarian (or Tatar) court as a way of securing the loyalty of the country!

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What other "researchers" now claim (usually on YouTube I heard, because I cannot access it), I need to check one day! Or, please, explain... it is good to learn new things (if you can support it with evidence, I would really appreciate it).

Just to mention something I read in a magazine and made me laugh: Bulgarians are really angry that Macedonians are calling them "Bulgarians - Tartarians" as an offensive term! Because in most of the battles Bulgarians were fighting on the side of the Tatars (or Tartarian side) and against all the other neighboring countries. The Balkan nations DO NOT want to be associated with Tartaria in any way!


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Yes agree entirely, everything I look at happened in the 1800s later rather than earlier.Today in class we were looking at Crystal Palace London, the visits of the russian Tsar to Victoria, everything. All the world fairs including my own in Bradford UK 1904 -any Bradfordians out there? Even the first Bradford has a 8 pointed star on its front. Looking at all the Royals Palaces in UK all my class know now they are Tartarian. Are the Historians asleep, or eyes wide shut (ews) with soma or similar? I walked around for the whole of my life reading the great history books, even teaching it, travelled to 47 countries but noticed nothing - ews. Currently showing in school Seven Years in Tibet and reading The tibet Lhasa thread on here at the same time as remembering that the current Dalai is said to be Muslim at birth? Orphan Trains. the works! What happened? Ass an aside to my rambling , soon a new series of All Creatures Great and Small going to be made in Little Germany, Bradford, Tartaria
Just finished listening to David Irwing Jr on Attila the Hun. So maybe the Dalai Lama is a Attila Muslim. Listen to the fascinating interview before you get back and bear in mind The Name Of The Rose.
 
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