The Battle of the Gods: Stolen History in Reports from inside the American Revolt

[SonofaBor]

Whatever may be afoot, there remain interesting and hopeful interventions in the public discourse regarding stolen history.

In particular, the issue of WWII was just discussed in a very American yet enlightening way by Tucker Carlson (a major American media figure) and historian Darryl Cooper. See,

Darryl Cooper: The True History of the Jonestown Cult, WWII, and How Winston Churchill Ruined Europe​

(Hat tip: Static in the Attic)

 

[Ponygirl]

Whatever may be afoot, there remain interesting and hopeful interventions in the public discourse regarding stolen history.

In particular, the issue of WWII was just discussed in a very American yet enlightening way by Tucker Carlson (a major American media figure) and historian Darryl Cooper. See,

Darryl Cooper: The True History of the Jonestown Cult, WWII, and How Winston Churchill Ruined Europe​

(Hat tip: Static in the Attic)

I listened to this and it had me spell-bound. Great research by Cooper and Tucker did a great interview.

 

[SonofaBor]

I'm glad you found it interesting.

I have lingering questions about what really went on in Germany. For example, Sean Hross makes a good case the entire Nazi party, after some purges and restructuring, was basically run (i.e., financed) out of Switzerland.

While I'm glad to see the taboo topic broached in the public space, the depth of discussion remains poor. This always troubles me. I believe (if I believe in anything) in free and intelligent speech.

 

[SonofaBor]

PKD was traumatized one day when he looked outside his Orange County apartment to literally see everywhere that the Roman Empire never ended! He was utterly convinced of this; his later works comprised attempts to come to terms and describe his Gnostic vision of salvation for mankind.

What's more, his personal files wear ransacked; and he reported it to the FBI. Of course, it was probably they or other like-minded people who did it! For I think the Cabal knew very well that PKD had terrible visions of possible timeline outcomes. What did they want with them?

"Blade Runner" (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep) had an enormous impact on me in the 1980s before the patterns became obvious everywhere. Nowadays, the hideous evil is so obvious. Sci-fi is worthless! Insofar as it reads like realism or as predictive programming. Is this what they wanted from his files?




Profoundly possible.


It is of interest to me that Trump repeatedly referred to going to Mars during his campaign rallies. What do they mean by Mars? That shimmering light in the sky? A planet about which we have nothing, save artist representations? I wish I knew. Any clues?

Perhaps he referred to the Military Auxiliary Radio System (https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/465002p.PDF?ver=InxU7fQiewc1wkQUyjUkpA==).

 

[Ponygirl]

Since the planned-demonic hit, I've become exposed to the alt-right universe-- primarily due to the comments and orientations of people on this forum, who I have come to respect. Over the summer, I spent most of my research time seeking to understand what is precisely happening in the USA. I dismissed Q early, but have come to the conclusion that this psychological operation is brilliant, if only because it has kept the gun owners from taking matters into the own hands. I've sifted through a lot of videos and podcasts. Some I find entertaining and reject, like Alex Jones, who I think is locked, literally, in the media space of information wars. Others seem to serve up warmed-over material. Others are far too emotional and superficial. But there are a few that I find very interesting, and their understanding of the current situation is quite profound. These include: Tore Says, Juan O Savin, Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes, (and to a lesser extent) Charlie Freak and Charlie Ward. What is most interesting for Stolen History is that they all seem to realize that capital H History does not tell the true story and bound up with the oppression of human consciousness, i.e., our slavery. For example, during the summer when radicals were creating autonomous zones and raging against the machines (with the financial help of the NWO) in Portland and Seattle, Charlie Freak clearly referred to the Portland Courthouse as a 500-year-old building. Robert David Steele, an ex-CIA officer, claims "history is shit"; and he intends to open an open-source History Study Agency under a Trump Administration, should Trump prevail. Tore Says is a genius and a former worker in AI private intelligence. She is a whistleblower with a profound sense of the political cultural landscape. She claims, in fact, that she is a time traveler. On numerous occasions, she has referred to the 19th century as being marked by time distortion, precisely as have many of us. Juan O Savin opens his new book with a discussion of the Titanic as a false flag operation, by which the banking houses were able to kill off three key people opposed to the Federal Reserve's creation. Yesterday, in a profound monologue, he states that Washington DC is known (presumably by TPTB) as a "holy city" of equal status to the Vatican. He makes much of the fact that it was built in a swamp-- though he doesn't say it was dug out of a swamp, like so many other magnificent, repurposed mudflood ruins. All of the people were selected by elements close to Trump, known as Q. All of them reveal we're in a spiritual war. The "gods" make love, according to Hendrix, but they also are playing out a battle royal.

I'm wondering if anyone else has insiders/observers who bring themes of history into their analysis?

I also should also state before I post this: I would like very much to publish an interview with one of these people on this forum. All of the people only hint at the historical problems. They clearly know more than they expose. The public is very ignorant, of course. How much more can you say to people right now? All of the work here should prove very important if the rebellion succeeds.

I call this The War We Forgot and I’ve been sharing my notes in Instagram which has provided me with comments from followers who have been filling in the gaps.
Nummosoul is my handle is anyone is interested.
My followers was on an upward trend until I started mentioning Atlantis. Now my gains are counted as loses by IG so I know I’m on the right track.
The South was the last holdout of the Moors—Romans—na-mor, Na is Scottish for no. The invaders mirror our reality back to us which is why the Russian language has backwards letters.
The Victorian Age is when the English finished their conquest of Europe.
America is the only country that I know that greets each other as if at a funeral with ‘good morning’.
Days of the weak.
It becomes obvious once we look into the language forced on us by our conquers.
why would a nations of natives, Germans, French and other immigrants, adopt the language of the nation they’d just defeated?

Why do we celebrate our victory by sending pretend bombs over our heads and call them fire works?
Why do we call fires that burn up our stone & brick cities Great?
Even a child can see that in a normal fire, it’s the fire places that survive.
Anyway, I’m putting the conquest of America in a timeline showing what weapons might have been used. And who the enemy is.
we can’t defeat them if we don’t know who they are and who we really are.
Atlantis was an epoch not just an island. We failed to call out the dark magicians the first time and we can’t afford to do it a second time.
They are back and there’s a very good reason they are obsessed with Mars.

 

[SonofaBor]

Trump on Gaza was shocking and brazen. It doesn't make sense within the confines of any conventional political calculus. (For example, did he really need to do this to get Evangelicals on board? Nope, unless he's playing out their fantastical second-coming narrative. But come on! That's only 30% of the voters! Do I have evidence that Trump "believes"-- provided the "belief" could be condensed into a single, unarguable view? No. So, I consider it possible, but unlikely).

So, I'm left with only 2 rational possibilities, each with 2 parts:

1. It is distraction from automatic or concocted resets.

All my studies of the archeology of the present (aka, history) reveal overwhelming evidence for resets at the Biblical scale. For example, Montana State University at its "founding":

Like the "Wizard of Oz," Victorian "adventurers" and their lovely wives (Karens) wandered into "Bonanza."​

Either people or giant people built this and vanished or God or gods (or who knows?) erected it in advance of the arrival of our families. These people didn't do it. No way. No how.

A. What's the point? Resets have happened. They are perceived as terrifying and miraculous. Maybe they happen automatically as part of a matrix-like reality (see, Breshears on YT); perhaps they are initiated by an irritated God (Sodom and Gomorrah); perhaps they are completed by mere mortals and they disappear from here (leaving only the "discourses of the vanishing"). Sorry to say, I don't know. I do know that people, like me, can figure this out (I had a good idea 30 years ago); therefore, I can conclude that more powerful people than me with better access to knowledge and controlled intellectual power (e.g., the CIA) can be prepping to survive the changes to come and, literally, "inherit the earth." If President and Casino-owner Trump's job in all this is to distract and entertain, then he's really doing a bang-up job.

B. If the resets are concocted by people themselves, well.... then the statement of Jesus, "...Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" starts to have even more forceful and terrifying implications. And, again, I'm at a loss to explain Trump on Gaza. Why? The MAGA movement has been about breaking free of the controller class and its planned resets. Is Trump doing his part in the concoction of an American world reset? He'd be breaking his promise of "America First." Promises are cheap. I know millions of people feel betrayed today. Turning Gaza into another haunted beach-front city on tax-payer dime is beyond hypocritical. It is probably treasonous.

2. Trump is conducting "business" New York style or there's really something to "the chosen people"-- but not as commonly understood.

A. I finally went through Trump's book, The Art of the Deal this weekend. I highly recommend it. Not because I learned how (LOL) to make a fortune in real estate; rather, because I could see in that book an American "be-bopping and scatting" through a pressure cooking environment to achieve his dreams. I found his dreams nauseating and boring. Come on! Is Trump Tower or his casino business worthy of admiration and pride? Well, whatever... This is America. And he is an American character. He parlayed his inheritance in money and know how into an earthly empire. Most of us will not get close to that. Nonetheless, I found his methods of bombast and determination and commitment to be admirable as American.

Compare The Art of the Deal with Mein Kaumpf. Hitler is generally accurate in his assessments but insane (and ironic-- see the next section) in his ethnic hatreds. Trump gives everyone a reasonable chance to show themselves. Like Hitler, Trump is bombastic and a showman. Both had/have followers of worrisome simplicity and devotion. Nonetheless, there is something American about Trump. He doesn't seek to silence or extinguish. He wants the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution put in Bibles. (I hope this is done. But Trump will never mandate it). Free speech is something he values highly. He's not gonna hand over the megaphone or academic professions to fringe characters; they will need to earn it-- against all odds. This is the America that Trump represents.

Trump is right to call this autobiography "The Art of the Deal." For this art is at the heart of everything he does. And what he did, especially his early years in Manhattan, was over the top and unimaginable. Making deals centers on entering relationships, making offers and counter offers, being prepared to walk away or plunge forward, thinking of others and thinking of your bottom line. Complexity in a constantly changing world, managing it and having fun doing it... That's Trump. So, I read Trump on Gaza as some kind of weird and outrageous offer to the world. It is as if to say: "Well, we have a mess. Let's fix it. How 'bout we turn it into a water skier's paradise resort?" His offer was that absurd, but it is in keeping with his character. Moreover, Trump is taking over-- changing the discourse-- forcing everyone to come to terms with his outrageous terms before the improvements are initiated. I noticed that Trump did not mention Israel at all.

B. I just obtained 2 books I wanted badly to read: When Scotland was Jewish and Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America, both books by Elizabeth Hirshmann and Donald Yates (yes, both Jewish).

I just got started with these, but the point is clear: basically, we're all Jewish or Moorish! It is nuts, I know. The story goes that during the Spanish Inquisition (1492), the Jews and Moors (i.e., "blacks") had to convert, get out or, well, auto da fe. They fled to the British Isles, Northern Europe and America. Often they came under new, assumed Christian names-- double protection, as it were.

Why was the church hassling them? My guess is that the Moors and Jews, both mono-theists with a strong orientation towards reason and personal achievement, were a threat to top-down rule.

The fact is that Northern Europe from the 12th century or so was called the Hanseatic League. Here's a map from that time.

Here is a coin from that realm, and we see the name of Yahweh.

Do I believe that Jews are the "chosen people?" Heck if I know! I've read the Bible as a believer, an atheist, and stunned adult. I can't determine what is real or not in it. None of it makes sense. The God in the Bible, Yahweh, is terrible. Jesus is like every other spiritual teacher. The story of creation is contradictory (was the snake really evil for getting Eve to eat the apple?). I can go through countless strange features. I think it just as likely that entire thing was rewritten and edited to further advance political and spiritual interests that are, well, Satanic-- that is, against individualism and reason.

When I say all of us are Jewish, I'm pointing at all of us from Northern Europe. Most of us are (sorta) Christian, nowadays. But I'm beginning to think that was an imposition on our original and individual connection to God or Source or The Holy Spirit or whatever one wants to call it. Moreover, I wonder if "Yahweh"-- as now understood-- is a concoction of Renaissance Catholic writers to blackwash the prevailing "Christian" universalist ideals and practices. I do know that Martin Luther and John Calvin were, as they say, "crypto" Jews (Jewish by birth; Christian by identification). Similarly, Hitler was himself 1/4th Jewish and from aristocratic Austrian lines.

This brings me to the idea of the chosen people. I think this idea is totally misunderstood by people today and identified by an artificial creation called "Israel." American Christians are the world's greatest Zionists because they have been brainwashed into believing that a concocted book is the holy book of God. It is not even a proven fact that today's Israel is the same as that identified in the Bible. Locations in France much more clearly follow the New Testament story if the life Jesus to make sense. (If I might add: why are there swine in Judea?)

What I think is this: we're all chosen people, so long as we promote spiritual individualism (free speech, etc) and honor the Father of Creation (who is most certainly not the Yahweh of the Bible).

Was it just luck that allowed Europeans to walk onto the shores of America and take the lands and infrastructure after a cataclysm, a disappearing act, or act of God/gods? Maybe. But when the Jewish converts came to America, they saw the indigenous people as the sons of Abraham. (There is some truth in the Book of Mormon). That the local people were eventually enslaved and called "Africans" tells me more about how the Bible was adulterated and that the original spirituality of our ancestors was distorted than about people. (That is, people are naturally neutral-to-good; with training, they can become hideous monsters).



So what does this say about Trump's supposed deal? About cataclysms? We're all watching...

 

[trismegistus]

So what does this say about Trump's supposed deal? About cataclysms?

A quote from Trump in a policy video back in 2023:

“I will work with all 50 governors, Republican and Democrat alike, to create the Great American State Fair, a unique one-year exhibition featuring pavilions from all 50 states. It’ll be something. The Great American State Fair will showcase the glory of every state in the Union, promote pride in our history, and put forth innovative visions for America’s future,”

It has been strange to me that such a hot topic in this community such as the world's fairs got folded into the world stage of politics, even in an offhanded way. I have no idea if this project will ever come to fruition, and whether it does or not isn't important.

Is this idea for a world's fair something that Trump has personal convictions over? Or is this a directive from a sphere of influence Trump is involved in? At several points in the past I have tried to dive into any connections I could find between the Trump family and any heavy hitters involved in the grand scale world's fairs of the past - I have yet to dig up any leads. It was this particular thing that made me get off my ass and look into it to begin with:

Executive Order on Promoting Beautiful Federal Civic Architecture – The White House

For approximately a century and a half following America’s founding, America’s Federal architecture continued to be characterized by beautiful and beloved buildings of largely, though not exclusively, classical design. Examples include the Second Bank of the United States in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the Pioneer Courthouse in Portland, Oregon, and the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse in New York City, New York. In Washington, D.C., classical buildings such as the White House, the Capitol Building, the Supreme Court, the Department of the Treasury, and the Lincoln Memorial have become iconic symbols of our system of government. These cherished landmarks, built to endure for centuries, have become an important part of our civic life...

...Applicable Federal public buildings should uplift and beautify public spaces, inspire the human spirit, ennoble the United States, and command respect from the general public. They should also be visually identifiable as civic buildings and, as appropriate, respect regional architectural heritage. Architecture — with particular regard for traditional and classical architecture — that meets the criteria set forth in this subsection is the preferred architecture for applicable Federal public buildings. In the District of Columbia, classical architecture shall be the preferred and default architecture for Federal public buildings absent exceptional factors necessitating another kind of architecture.

Again, not really important if this ever actually was enforced in any way. Admittedly, I have no idea if any past presidents in my lifetime have ever made such oddly specific references to American reset topics in their stated policies and executive orders. I have a feeling he is probably the only one.

So why is that?

Does Trump employ staff to dig the furthest reaches of niche alt-history corners to cajole people like us into supporting him? Doesn't really make sense, seems like a lot of wasted effort for little payoff.

Does the Trump family have access to information that would have influenced him to integrate these ideas into his persona?

Are Trump's controllers related to the same groups that watched over the last American Reset?

Is Trump Korben Dallas?

 

[Just]

A quote from Trump in a policy video back in 2023:



It has been strange to me that such a hot topic in this community such as the world's fairs got folded into the world stage of politics, even in an offhanded way. I have no idea if this project will ever come to fruition, and whether it does or not isn't important.

Is this idea for a world's fair something that Trump has personal convictions over? Or is this a directive from a sphere of influence Trump is involved in? At several points in the past I have tried to dive into any connections I could find between the Trump family and any heavy hitters involved in the grand scale world's fairs of the past - I have yet to dig up any leads. It was this particular thing that made me get off my ass and look into it to begin with:

Executive Order on Promoting Beautiful Federal Civic Architecture – The White House



Again, not really important if this ever actually was enforced in any way. Admittedly, I have no idea if any past presidents in my lifetime have ever made such oddly specific references to American reset topics in their stated policies and executive orders. I have a feeling he is probably the only one.

So why is that?

Does Trump employ staff to dig the furthest reaches of niche alt-history corners to cajole people like us into supporting him? Doesn't really make sense, seems like a lot of wasted effort for little payoff.

Does the Trump family have access to information that would have influenced him to integrate these ideas into his persona?

Are Trump's controllers related to the same groups that watched over the last American Reset?

Is Trump Korben Dallas?

He’s bringing in references to the past cover-ups and resets to make people like us aware of what he’s doing so we’ll start referencing it to the unaware and unawakened and (more importantly, imo) ultimately to uncover the truth of our reality. This may sound like hopium and nonsensical but I think his job is and always has been to play a fool to rush in where (Luciferian) angels fear to tread. Just as in Shakespearian tragedies, it’s the madman or the fool that tells the truth and while people scoff they have to take on board to some extent what is being said. He’s in the end stages of this game he’s being asked to play, and whether the outcome is bad or good it will change our world forever - and given how shit this world is for the vast majority of people, any change might be preferable.

 

[SonofaBor]

It has been strange to me that such a hot topic in this community such as the world's fairs got folded into the world stage of politics, even in an offhanded way. I have no idea if this project will ever come to fruition, and whether it does or not isn't important.

Brilliant observation. Thanks. It gives me a lot more to ponder as I watch all this unfold.

Again, not really important if this ever actually was enforced in any way. Admittedly, I have no idea if any past presidents in my lifetime have ever made such oddly specific references to American reset topics in their stated policies and executive orders. I have a feeling he is probably the only one.

It is troubling to me that most of what we communicate here is beyond the vast, vast majority of people. So, I wish Trump would "just say it." Even the proclamation you cite is misleading in its soft sell.

When I read his book, I thought a lot about the architecture of New York. Trump is careful. But he does mention arson, such as happened in the Bronx (and highlighted by Jon Levi, once upon a time)-- attributing them to land lords who couldn't make a dime on the property due to the corrupt lefty establishment. He cites numerous examples of well-known figures living in rent-controlled apartments to make his point.

My opinion on his contribution to world architecture is pretty clearly stated, above.

One thing, for sure, our situation is a real mess.

 

[SonofaBor]

He’s bringing in references to the past cover-ups and resets to make people like us aware of what he’s doing so we’ll start referencing it to the unaware and unawakened and (more importantly, imo) ultimately to uncover the truth of our reality

There can be no doubt that we on this forum came together during his first term in office. Basically, I agree with you.

 

[SonofaBor]

Why do we celebrate our victory by sending pretend bombs over our heads and call them fire works?
Why do we call fires that burn up our stone & brick cities Great?
Even a child can see that in a normal fire, it’s the fire places that survive.
Anyway, I’m putting the conquest of America in a timeline showing what weapons might have been used. And who the enemy is.
we can’t defeat them if we don’t know who they are and who we really are.
Atlantis was an epoch not just an island. We failed to call out the dark magicians the first time and we can’t afford to do it a second time.
They are back and there’s a very good reason they are obsessed with Mars.

Excellent, to my mind, questions. Trump's continual reference to Mars really troubles me. As I have noted throughout this thread, I'm only a little more than not optimistic.

Probably, the 2 reasons for my qualified optimism are: 1. changes are happening, including this forum; and, 2. I really don't know what has happened. I am left, thus, with a lingering faith-- which I, nonetheless, challenge with reflection and study.

 

[ViniB]

It still baffles me how many retard boomers are drooling at Trump's balls as if he is some kind of lord saviour, when in reality his cabinet nominations are basically the transhumanist tech oligarchs and a lot of zionists!!! It's easy to see on which side he's on

 

[SonofaBor]

It still baffles me how many retard boomers are drooling at Trump's balls as if he is some kind of lord saviour, when in reality his cabinet nominations are basically the transhumanist tech oligarchs and a lot of zionists!!! It's easy to see on which side he's on

What is happening is of world historical import (to borrow the bombast of Hegel).

In any case, I'm a fringe boomer. Looking at this group, their greatest failure was to get lost in the intricate but objectively idiotic consumerist, governmental and professional-corporate fantasies-- -- of their prime times. But compare them to Gen Z or whatever. At least the boomers and the X's can turn a screwdriver. Like it or not, there is still a grasp of reality alive in people roughly 50+ that is hard to find and difficult to inculcate in the youth. That said-- in all the arts, such as music and chess and basketball-- their performances today outclass their predecessors. What does this mean? They've been trained to perform at very high levels. So, I cannot logically infer there is no hope.

The big branch on which transhumanism took hold was on the ginned-up discourse of sexuality-as-construct. Back in the 90s, I didn't think they'd win. They got a lot further than I thought. Watch them lose as their funding dries up. It will be amusing; for they are belief-driven (rather like Evangelicals). What does this mean? It means they are as weak as they are dangerous. Without funding and embarrassed by complete social rejection, they will hive off into insignificance.

What does this mean for stolen history? Until we get better information about the past, we can't know who we are. I recommend the diligent efforts of Kurimeo Ahau to go through the forgotten books of the 19th century. He puts into question many prevailing assumptions about who what we are. For a particular example, consider: "The Sally Muller Story, The "White" German Slave / Miller Vs. Belmonti / Louisiana / Swarthy Germans."

 

[Gladius]

Trump on Gaza was shocking and brazen. It doesn't make sense within the confines of any conventional political calculus. (For example, did he really need to do this to get Evangelicals on board? Nope, unless he's playing out their fantastical second-coming narrative. But come on! That's only 30% of the voters! Do I have evidence that Trump "believes"-- provided the "belief" could be condensed into a single, unarguable view?

The continous efforts to appropriate Jewishness to one own's kind never stop, it seems. Take a number. First you must defeat the "We wuz Jewz" gang

 

[SonofaBor]

The continous efforts to appropriate Jewishness to one own's kind never stop, it seems. Take a number. First you must defeat the "We wuz Jewz" gang

I suggest you read the books by Hirshmann and Yates and let me know what you think afterwards...

I can only question them at a metaphysical level. In particular, if the genealogies they investigate are simply a product of the gods or the matrix or whatever, then ... well.. I'm mystified.

 

[Gladius]

I suggest you read the books by Hirshmann and Yates and let me know what you think afterwards...

I can only question them at a metaphysical level. In particular, if the genealogies they investigate are simply a product of the gods or the matrix or whatever, then ... well.. I'm mystified.

The titles themselves are already absurd.
The authors being Jewish (1, not both as you said) is not a sign of credibility either.

The claims presented there are weak and basicaly cherry-picking. The books have a low effort odor to them.
If you stand behind those books, then present the arguements here and don't send people to go reading. I will not go and read them unless you can prove their value, especially not after you used their mere existence (as if these are some artifacts) to base some alleged connection between your own people to claims of being originally Jewish.

You have ignored the absolute fact that 99% of Iberian Jews migrated to the Ottoman Empire after 1492, and it's a very, very small group which headed north. It's akin to those larping Americans who identify as Vikings due to past nordic exploration.

 

[SonofaBor]

The titles themselves are already absurd.
The authors being Jewish (1, not both as you said) is not a sign of credibility either.

The claims presented there are weak and basicaly cherry-picking. The books have a low effort odor to them.
If you stand behind those books, then present the arguements here and don't send people to go reading. I will not go and read them unless you can prove their value, especially not after you used their mere existence (as if these are some artifacts) to base some alleged connection between your own people to claims of being originally Jewish.

You have ignored the absolute fact that 99% of Iberian Jews migrated to the Ottoman Empire after 1492, and it's a very, very small group which headed north. It's akin to those larping Americans who identify as Vikings due to past nordic exploration.

All right. I'm given to challenges. I'll read them according to my training and start a separate "Book Review" post-- provided it is welcomed by the mods. Give me few days.

 

[ViniB]

The big branch on which transhumanism took hold was on the ginned-up discourse of sexuality-as-construct. Back in the 90s, I didn't think they'd win. They got a lot further than I thought. Watch them lose as their funding dries up. It will be amusing; for they are belief-driven (rather like Evangelicals). What does this mean? It means they are as weak as they are dangerous. Without funding and embarrassed by complete social rejection, they will hive off into insignificance.

I'm afraid the oposite is true here, we have Thiel, Musk and (almost) all of the paypal mafia directly connected to the cabinet and public policy, i won't even get into the project stargate for now because it's in the open what is all about

What does this mean for stolen history? Until we get better information about the past, we can't know who we are. I recommend the diligent efforts of Kurimeo Ahau to go through the forgotten books of the 19th century. He puts into question many prevailing assumptions about who what we are. For a particular example, consider: "The Sally Muller Story, The "White" German Slave / Miller Vs. Belmonti / Louisiana / Swarthy Germans."

Interesting suggestion, will read with more attention later

 

[SonofaBor]

I'm afraid the oposite is true here, we have Thiel, Musk and (almost) all of the paypal mafia directly connected to the cabinet and public policy, i won't even get into the project stargate for now because it's in the open what is all about

I certainly understand your objections. I think, however, that there well be more to the story. I'm not gonna dive into it right now, I've gotta a book review to write. Smiles.

 

[SonofaBor]

Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America. Elizabeth Hirschman and Donald Yates. McFarland and Co.: Jefferson, North Carolina, 285 pages, (2012).

Authors Elizabeth Hirshmann and Donald Yates make plain their understanding of the difficulties and, perhaps, unwelcome implications of their research in the first sentence:

For most Americans, the story of their nation's origins seem safe, reliable and comforting. We were taught from elementary school that the United States was created by a group of brave, white Christians drawn largely from England who ventured to these shores in search of religious freedom and the opportunity to fulfill their own destiny.

The evidence, however, suggests otherwise.

We postulate that many of the initial colonists were of Sephardic, Jewish and Muslim Moorish ancestry. Usually arriving as crypto Jews with their religious adherence disguised...the immigrants served in prominent economic, political, financial and social positions in all of the original colonies (p. 1).

Readers will learn the names of families who took such leading roles. Families such as the Russells, Lees and Kennedys were prominent at the start of this country and continue to have extraordinary influence on American life; but, it is not only the most obviously prominent. Browns, Garcias, and Yates (as the author discovered) and hundreds if not thousands of other surnames derive their lineage from crypto Jewish colonists. By crypto Jew-- a term unfamiliar to most Americans and, no doubt, as a slur to others-- the authors refer to early Protestants who had changed their religious identities and names to survive and flourish despite the fact that Jews or Hebrews (as identified by Shakespeare) were run out of many countries of Europe-- most notably Spain-- by monarchical and Papist forces. The authors go into great depth to uncover the backgrounds and religious and familial practices of notable figures such as George Mason, William Byrd, Patrick Henry, William Bradford, Thomas Paine, Daniel Boone and others. The implications will be eye-opening, such that the social-political landscape of contemporary America and the individual and familial place of the reader in this structure and narrative, can never be seen the same again. For this reason, I highly recommend the book.

The authors use three methods to make their point: 1. genealogical research, 2. genetic data, and 3. an implicit historical framework. The first is strong; the second is dubious to my mind; and the third is often misleading and leaves many very important questions unanswered.

The genealogical data is both factually compelling and of a piece with the rich descriptions of the lives of the early colonists. Lists and tables of names and lineages comprise over a fifth of the book. The authors set the table and then revise the stories of key figures. In the process readers learn of endogenous marriage patterns, high level connections, the public establishment of churches and private religious practices, plantation economies, piracy, drug (cane sugar being the biggest at the time) and human (slave) trafficking.

In view of the power of their descriptions, the use of genetic data and speculation seems unnecessary and probably dubious. I have a couple questions. How do we assign a geographical limit to a given chromosome? In Mein Kaumpf Hitler raged, not only against Jews, but against the Slavs. Vienna is only 166 miles from Zagreb. How does one distinguish in a biologically meaningful way a German and a Slav? Another question leads to my main criticism of the book: How do we know people with specific Y chromosome characteristics, for example, are from any given locale unless we presuppose the conclusion? The answer might be: "That's where they have always lived or that is where their stories indicate is their home." Such presumptive and automatic retorts rely heavily on usually unexamined narratives. As Hirshmann and Yates superbly demonstrate, the world is far more complex than standard narratives allow. Groups of powerful people on the run from their enemies, move into new regions and set up permanent camp. Could it be that their so-called home, be it the Iberian Peninsula or the Ukraine, is itself but a way-station in the continuous movement of their kin?

There is a lot we don't know. The book gives crucial data. The earliest colonists were not farmers, stone masons or wood workers but court musicians, experienced financiers, successful merchants, professors, land owners, and politically influential and connected people. Via their presence, influence and power, new systems were established. The so-called "pagans" disappeared to disease, the force of arms, and trafficking. In the place (or from the ashes) of local magical systems of belief and practice, a new kabbalistic magic of John Dee (a crypto Jew) and others and backed by a specific monotheism established a matrix of finance, mathematics, practical alchemy-- called science. In short, the crypto Jews established the United States of America in its systemic form. Hirshmann and Yates more or less tacitly deploy the metanarrative of "America's greatness" as a kind of cover for the process, just as crypto Jews themselves changed their names and religious orientation to suit their new territory. To give urgency of meaning to the acts of the founders, Hirshmann and Yates refer frequently to the enemies of the early notables. Not in keeping with the rich analysis of the genealogical research, this framework goes unexamined. We know, for example, that rail traffic, camp sizes, population sizes, wartime preoccupations, and other quotidian empirical data render standard narratives about the scope of crimes committed from 1942 to 1945 dubious. Can the same be said about the Spanish Inquisition?

I don't know. But I do know that the original colonists were conquers, plain and simple. The "white Christians," referenced by Hirshmann and Yates on page 1, might ask: "Did they really turn their hearts to Jesus when they converted?" Based on the book, the only answer would be "Maybe they did; maybe they didn't." But is this even a pertinent question? We know people by their works; moreover, since "white Christians" abide by the laws (or mandates) of the system, they are -- for all intents and purposes-- indistinguishable from their "Founding Fathers." We are all crypto Jews.