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[feralimal]

Massachusetts museum reunites 16th c. Dutch triptych – The History Blog

The Worcester Art Museum (WAM) in Massachusetts has acquired The Entombment, the central panel of a triptych by 16th century Dutch painter Maarten van Heemskerck, reuniting it with its two side panels for the first time in 250 years.

The two wing panels, originally part of the triptych, feature portraits of the family that commissioned the work. Their rocky grotto backgrounds and landscape elements align with the central panel, confirming their original connection. The central painting was likely displayed in the artist’s studio, where prospective buyers could purchase it and commission custom wings that would then be attached to the central panel. Now on long-term loan at WAM, the Selldorff family’s panels were once part of the collection of Tom Selldorff’s grandfather, Richard Neumann, an Austrian Jewish collector whose artworks were looted by the Nazis. The panels were not returned to Neumann’s heirs until 2011.

Nothing about the centre panel and the side panels align. The faces are painted differently. The side panels are well painted, the middle panel is terrible, a totally different quality, the faces are badly drawn, the context is different (turban, golfers tan, no table). Experts are not required to discern this nonsense.

Bad art, fake triptych. Perhaps the 2 side panels are a diptych.

 

[iskander]

Massachusetts museum reunites 16th c. Dutch triptych – The History Blog

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Nothing about the centre panel and the side panels align. The faces are painted differently. The side panels are well painted, the middle panel is terrible, a totally different quality, the faces are badly drawn, the context is different (turban, golfers tan, no table). Experts are not required to discern this nonsense.

Bad art, fake triptych. Perhaps the 2 side panels are a diptych.

As I heard, the varnish many painters of that phase used darkens over the decades, changing the appearance of the work.
Rembrandt's famous "Night watch" painting is most according to specialists not a "night watch" at all, just a darkened "city ward" scene.

The central image if this triptych is obviously much brighter. Especially the outside background and the skin tones are significantly different. Continued with the appearance of the clothes and the benches / tables.

Going out on a limb, I guess the central image is a late "reproduction" to replace a lost painting. Perhaps taking very rough sketches or even other triptychs as template. With the wing paintings being three or four times as old as the central one.

 

[feralimal]

As I heard, the varnish many painters of that phase used darkens over the decades, changing the appearance of the work.
Rembrandt's famous "Night watch" painting is most according to specialists not a "night watch" at all, just a darkened "city ward" scene.

The central image if this triptych is obviously much brighter. Especially the outside background and the skin tones are significantly different. Continued with the appearance of the clothes and the benches / tables.

Going out on a limb, I guess the central image is a late "reproduction" to replace a lost painting. Perhaps taking very rough sketches or even other triptychs as template. With the wing paintings being three or four times as old as the central one.

I've no issue with a difference in colour in artwork that is old but where separate pieces have been stored differently.

I'm talking about the content.

* There is a table in the endpieces - but in the middle there is something - perhaps a stone coffin or a different type of table - that extends forwards not horizontally.
* The bodies of some subjects in the central piece would extend into the side panels - but do not.
* You say the background matches - I would dispute this even - the arc in the center panels picks up at a higher point in both end panels. I agree that this element is as near to a continous theme across all 3 paintings as we get.
* The faces are painted in a different style - the center pieces faces have a more 'deer-like' element to them, whereas in the end panels the faces are more human.
* The social event that is present in the center one is also in contrast to the more sombre subdued feeling in the side panels.

Etc.

Different paintings.

In general, I'm kind of amazed that anyone would even call this a triptych when it is so visually incoherent. Despite all the videos etc, people's visual literacy seems to be getting worse, but then, perhaps that is inevitable if people do not apply any discernment over what they look at.

PS Stepping into the realm of speculation, I would guess that the creation of this triptych is a money making scheme. Say you have 2 nice, old side panels, that are not that valuable in themselves but would be if you had the middle panel. Creating a triptych creates value. If you know a friendly art appraisor who will vouch for your 'triptych' and then a museum that will also display the thing this will create a fake history for the paintings. With just a few words, you have created something valuable.

 

[Tomkat]

I've no issue with a difference in colour in artwork that is old but where separate pieces have been stored differently.

I'm talking about the content.

* There is a table in the endpieces - but in the middle there is perhaps a stone coffin or a different type of table extending forwards, not horizontally.
* The bodies of some subjects in the central piece would extend into the side panels - but do not.
* You say the background matches - I would dispute this even - the arc in the center panels picks up at a higher point in both end panels - but this element is as near to a contrinous theme across all 3 paintings.
* The faces are painted in a different style - the center pieces faces have a more deer-like element to them, whereas in the end panels the faces are more human.
* The social event that is present in the center one is also in contrast to the more sombre subdued feeling in the side panels.

Etc.

For what's worth, the hands in the center panel definitely appear to have been done by some other than the artist responsible for the sides. Totally different. Also, no art expert, but the body in the center screams forgery or fake, to me. Sidenote, what's up with Worcester? Also home to a strangely large and beautiful asylum at one time?

 

[papaganda]

For what's worth, the hands in the center panel definitely appear to have been done by some other than the artist responsible for the sides. Totally different. Also, no art expert, but the body in the center screams forgery or fake, to me. Sidenote, what's up with Worcester? Also home to a strangely large and beautiful asylum at one time?

Worcester is fake news

 

[Tomkat]

Mars....or Greenland? Allegedly a 360 selfie taken by the rover two days ago.

 

[feralimal]

Mars....or Greenland? Allegedly a 360 selfie taken by the rover two days ago.

I wonder why a bit of this 33 sec long video is blurred out.

 

[Tomkat]

I wonder why a bit of this 33 sec long video is blurred out.

Hmmm. 33 sec. Didn't even catch that. Masonic wink wink?

 

[Tomkat]

Hmmm. 33 sec. Didn't even catch that. Masonic wink wink?

How about this.

 

[Just]

How about this.
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East ‘Antarctica’ freezing / West ‘Antarctica’ thawing. Look at the Ewaranon flat earth model where the sun / moon rotation within the firmament moves over many millennia in a westerly direction so the west gets warmer as the east gets cooler. Interesting that on the ‘moon map’ (a mirror image of the extended plane) he demonstrates that America is in the east not the west and so is one of the oldest continents in the current known world and the UK / Europe is the newest. If you have no idea what I’m talking about but are interested, look at Lost History of a Flat Earth by Ewaranon. It’s very long but the last 30 minutes explain these ideas. There is no Antarctica but nor is there a fixed ice wall. It’s the constantly moving process of freezing over and uncovering the extended plane revealing the magnificent relics of several thousand years ago. We’re on a massive ‘clock face’ and the centuries are ticking till the next reveal of new land at which point the game is up for the global-world liars and a new reset will have to happen (if we don’t stop them first).

 

[ViniB]

East ‘Antarctica’ freezing / West ‘Antarctica’ thawing. Look at the Ewaranon flat earth model where the sun / moon rotation within the firmament moves over many millennia in a westerly direction so the west gets warmer as the east gets cooler. Interesting that on the ‘moon map’ (a mirror image of the extended plane) he demonstrates that America is in the east not the west and so is one of the oldest continents in the current known world and the UK / Europe is the newest. If you have no idea what I’m talking about but are interested, look at Lost History of a Flat Earth by Ewaranon. It’s very long but the last 30 minutes explain these ideas. There is no Antarctica but nor is there a fixed ice wall. It’s the constantly moving process of freezing over and uncovering the extended plane revealing the magnificent relics of several thousand years ago. We’re on a massive ‘clock face’ and the centuries are ticking till the next reveal of new land at which point the game is up for the global-world liars and a new reset will have to happen (if we don’t stop them first).

I've watched that one some time ago, but due to Ewaranon's constant flip flops, i don't know anymore. That whole thing of self debunking was weird, to say the least

 

[Just]

I've watched that one some time ago, but due to Ewaranon's constant flip flops, i don't know anymore. That whole thing of self debunking was weird, to say the least

Totally but then it wasn’t him - just the auto-generated narrator. He did 180 degree volte-face and made nonsense revisions of his original thesis. But the whole concept resonated with me and other people - it made sense / it felt true and that’s the highest praise I can give for anything right now.

 

[feralimal]

I love these sorts of admissions - they say everything, while saying nothing much:
The vetting files: How the BBC kept out ‘subversives’

There's nothing new really, but it is nice to hear these partial admissions. 'Yes, we operated a vetting process for 70 years, yes, we lied about it even to parliament, but that's all of it - you can trust us now!'

From the start, the BBC undertook not to reveal the role of the Security Service (MI5), or the fact of vetting itself.

Over the years, some BBC executives worried about the "deceptive" statements they had to make - even to an inquisitive MP on one occasion.

MI5 suggested that questions could be diverted from Greene to someone on the "personnel side of things". And "perhaps stress could be laid on a stiff recruitment procedure and the fact that references are taken up very thoroughly". This last phrase was taken up by the BBC very thoroughly itself, and it appears in many of the BBC responses over the following years. Cleverly ambiguous, it implies that the references taken up were those given by an applicant. In reality, the references were supplied by the Security Service.

The security service were in charge of recruiting.

The man who conducted this review, the BBC official in charge of liaison with MI5, was Brig Ronnie Stonham, a former Royal Signals officer, who also produced an updated "defensive brief". The first line of this was the usual blanket denial: "It can be stated categorically that BBC staff are not subject to a security clearance as a prerequisite for employment."

Get the security service to conduct the review of its role, classic.

There were some who marvelled that the BBC had managed to keep the secret for so long - it is evident from the anxiety expressed in the files that the corporation would have been hard pressed to hold its line if it had been pushed really hard by the press. "This story is 50 years old and it has taken the press that long to find it," said the BBC director general at the time, Alasdair Milne.

Yes, isn't it amazing that the press didn't find the secret vetting process. It's almost like the press is a stitch up itself, heaven forbid!

It was Hodder who saved the files for history.

He ignored an instruction to destroy them and crated them up in a safe for delivery to the BBC Written Archives Centre. He did shred all Security Service material on staff that the BBC held. However, he ensured that one personal file was kept - that of Guy Burgess, who worked for the BBC during the war.

The BBC even put his file online in 2014 but of course in this case the vetting had failed - and there was nothing in the file of Guy Burgess to indicate that he was in in fact a Soviet spy.

Endless nonsense.

We have no idea what is hidden/vetted/ignored etc. However we do have an admission that institution of the BBC was fine to lie to people for 70 years or so, and no one broke ranks, not even those in the press. That itself gives a hint of how little we can know, and how misled we may be.

 

[Tomkat]

I love these sorts of admissions - they say everything, while saying nothing much:
The vetting files: How the BBC kept out ‘subversives’

There's nothing new really, but it is nice to hear these partial admissions. 'Yes, we operated a vetting process for 70 years, yes, we lied about it even to parliament, but that's all of it - you can trust us now!'




The security service were in charge of recruiting.


Get the security service to conduct the review of its role, classic.


Yes, isn't it amazing that the press didn't find the secret vetting process. It's almost like the press is a stitch up itself, heaven forbid!


Endless nonsense.

We have no idea what is hidden/vetted/ignored etc. However we do have an admission that institution of the BBC was fine to lie to people for 70 years or so, and no one broke ranks, not even those in the press. That itself gives a hint of how little we can know, and how misled we may be.

Not to brag but here in USA we dont need to vet, we just hire intelligence assets to do the news. Saves time.

Always good stuff thx feralimal. Sad world we live in. I always see these realities as facets to what some would call the long slow process of destruction; turning everything upside down. Satanic inversion, woooooooo. Good is bad! Blah blah blah. We get it. They have slowly but surely lowered the bar so to speak. When I look at the world, I see the slow but steady normalization of narcissism. Its the flatland weve spoken of before. All that matters is the surface; what it looks like. The inside is rot or empty.

Maybe its some sort of scary masonic revelation of their method. Don Juan called the mind of the predator baroque and contradictory. Or maybe they know they can openly mock us. Its like a congressional hearing in the US: some criminal has to testify before a committee on tv and then nothing happens to them. Ever.
ps I know Don Juan meant a different type of predator, but to me it fits.


pps I know I'm not the only one here who shares your anger. We all do. And it seems like that is growing and I love that. I know it sounds corny, I do, but to me truth is an actual force. Like the discussion by reverendALC about gravity. That discussion is over my head, but it's good. But I really believe truth is an actual energetic force in reality. And that's one of the reasons I have hope. This place is all untruth, it will eventually be ground to dust by truth.

Edit..added more bullshit

 

[feralimal]

When I look at the world, I see the slow but steady normalization of narcissism.

Sadly, I agree. The social reality we live within seems to be endless trauma bonding abuse and lies.

On a positive note, I will just point out that with narcism you need a codependent. Sadly, the collective outlook facilitates the narcissistic abuse. But at an individual level one need not propagate anything. Yes, one has been a victim, but one does not need to remain a victim nor adopt an inauthentic servile (codependent) or master outlook. With work, one can grow oneself, one can act in accordance with personal, experienced reality, honouring the right and wrong one finds within. No need to perpetuate the abuse on others. One needs to know the limits of what one can know and to ignore lies and false stories. And the best news is that each person has the capacity to do this for themselves.

 

[Tomkat]

Sadly, I agree. The social reality we live within seems to be endless trauma bonding abuse and lies.

On a positive note, I will just point out that with narcism you need a codependent. Sadly, the collective outlook is facilitates the narcissistic abuse. But at an individual level one need not propagate anything.

Always, totally agree.

Yes, one has been a victim, but one does not need to remain a victim nor adopt an inauthentic servile (codependent) or master outlook. With work, one can grow oneself, one can act in accordance with personal, experienced reality, honouring the right and wrong one finds within.

I agree. Two quick things 1- I agree we can grow ourselves, and 2- not to change what you said, but I think it's necessary to add the option in that statement of 'fix' also, only for the sole purpose of recognizing that a lot of work that we do is to fix ourselves. Sorry for being wordy and overly unclear, I just mean with work we can grow ourselves, and with work we can fix ourselves also.

No need to perpetuate the abuse on others. One needs to know the limits of what one can know and to ignore lies and false stories. And the best news is that each person has the capacity to do this for themselves.

They really play such a sick game. You nailed it. Abuse is akin to a disease, a virus (I now viruses aren't real this is SH for goodness sake, but just go with me) esp when it's an actual tactic; it is contagious and will be passed on unless one recognizes they are a carrier and stops it. Bright side: makes forgiveness easier.

 

[feralimal]

I know I'm not the only one here who shares your anger.

I'm not angry. I think I accept that this is the nature of this place.

They really play such a sick game. You nailed it. Abuse is akin to a disease, a virus (I now viruses aren't real this is SH for goodness sake, but just go with me) esp when it's an actual tactic; it is contagious and will be passed on unless one recognizes they are a carrier and stops it.

About the 'they'.... I think there are groups that coordinate and harm others... but then, merely functioning within the system is to propagate it. If one wants to achieve material success too (an understandable desire) one probably initiates even more harm.

The point is, it's easy to think that there is a tormenting 'they', but, imo, it is also possible to comprehend this as the system working as is. 'Normal' people adopt/are taught unnatural servile/master outlooks and readily accept them. Even groups like masons, the military, elites, etc, can simply be playing out whatever they think is best. The system is propagated because this is the system people want, in the aggregate.

 

[Tomkat]

I'm not angry. I think I accept that this is the nature of this place.

I'm glad you're not angry, "one of us misread..."...it was me...great song...
I am totally angry. ;-)

About the 'they'.... I think there are groups that coordinate and harm others... but then, merely functioning within the system is to propagate it. If one wants to achieve success too (an understandable desire) one probably initiates even more harm.

The point is, it's easy to think that there is a tormenting 'they', but, imo, it is also possible to comprehend this as the system working as is. 'Normal' people adopt/are taught unnatural servile/master outlooks and readily accept them. Even groups like masons, the military, elites, etc, can simply be playing out whatever they think is best. The system is propagated and because this is what people want.

I guess I see it differently. I don't disagree with your general assessment of how things are. I see these more from a psychological perspective I think; both individually and collectively. It's all Mandelbrot set I suppose. I think human consciousness and psychology and chakras are all real and aspects of us; I think they follow known trajectories and have discrete levels. I think it really has been an agenda that has been pushed for decades at least, more likely centuries, to thwart and derail and subdue us.

Of course it sounds crazy, because it is. I believe too deeply in human nature (not just good, but great dammit) to think this is just how we are (not saying that's what you mean , that's me) Your perspective makes me think about groups ie military, sports.....really basically in all aspects of society, and how the underlying basis is they are organized as hierarchies.
That dovetails with narcissism in general - hierarchical. Sorry if rambling, they never should have legalized weed here.
I swear too, people can't be so dumb, there has to be some magic tomfoolery goin on. Watch the news in the US everyday, lefty station or maga station, doesn't matter, you'll think this is a democracy. We've never been a democracy.

 

[feralimal]

to think this is just how we are

Well, I humbly suggest that thinking in terms of 'we' is an unassailable error in thinking. If you are trying to make it right for everyone, you will end up tormenting those you intend to help. Just like everyone else. The hierarchy requires the collective. There is no correcting the good ship 'Humanity'.

As I said earlier:

No need to perpetuate the abuse on others. One needs to know the limits of what one can know and to ignore lies and false stories. And the best news is that each person has the capacity to do this for themselves.

Know thyself, the answers are within, honour other's free will, do not treat others in ways that you would not like to be treated, etc.

 

[Tomkat]

Well, I humbly suggest that thinking in terms of 'we' is an unassailable error in thinking. If you are trying to make it right for everyone, you will end up tormenting those you intend to help. Just like everyone else. The hierarchy requires the collective. There is no correcting the good ship 'Humanity'.

I disagree of course. Thinking in terms of we works for me. To be clear I'm not trying to help or save anyone let alone everyone. The way we fight is with truth. And it is a fight. You may be right that there is no correcting the ss humanity, but I would only agree to that statement relatively speaking. As I said, I believe 'we' , humans, are inherently good. So, there may be no hope of that here anymore, but I believe in after all this. Not an afterlife, but a return to a former life.

Hierarchies may require a collective, but maybe we don't need so many hierarchies.

As I said earlier:


Know thyself, the answers are within, honour other's free will, do not treat others in ways that you would not like to be treated, etc.