"The Earth was divided", and Biblical truth from the time just after Noah.

[Jd755]

Did you not download the book I put in the library for free?

No. Didn't know you had posted it or why.

The radio messages were intercepted at Arecibo by NASA scientists. They have been peer reviewed many times. All of them agre

That's the problem with peer review!
They all agree.
As for NASA I have no idea what their people do or why.
Universities hide evidence that challenges the acceptable or currernt narratives. Its where the peer reviewers hang out.

Did the Voyager become sentient and begin broadcasting the messages? No - they come from much further than Voyager even.

Satellites require you to believe in them for the simple reason you cannot check and verify anything about them for yourself. You cannot see them, you never see the rocket beyond a certain point its simply too small to see with our vision beyond a certain distance. What direction it goes beyond that I know not I just have suspicions.

I just haven't published these yet because I have three books that are more important that I need to get out first.

If I may suggest quit dicking about on here and get the buggers published!

To be fair I also put up part of a message that even I am not positive what it means and guess what? I got zero answers, zero comments.

Saw that. Not surprised you got no answers. You are the only person here that claims to be a trained cryptographer why you expect us to decipher something you cannot I don't know.
To my eyes its gobbledygook quite frankly. Not the first clue about where or how to begin to realise what if anything could be within those seemingly random letters.
Why aliens capable of passing messages to specific humans cannot do so in plain English is beyond me.

By the way, the one I am working on includes the template to translate ancient Hebrew such as the Bible text into Sumerian,

Perhaps the method is more useful than a template as a template locks things down, including mistakes, where a method can be developed and refined by the user but maybe that's just me.
Again stop dicking about this forum. Defending your abilities to random strangers on the internet is frankly not the best use of your finite time and I feel we both have had more of our time than we have to come, sadly or thank god, depending on the mood of the moment for me at least

the text of the bible which provides a 96.40% and better measure of the circumference of both the Earth and the Moon.

How the hell does anyone gain a .40% of any measure.
And how the hell does anyone set about measuring the circumference of a circle made by the ball they stand on.

Please do get the things finished and published time is of the essence.

Did you not download the book I put in the library for free?

This one?
PDF - The ones responsible for Covid (Jim Duyer)

There is no covid. There are no viruses. Takes one about an hour or two to establish these things for oneself.
Still I will download the pdf and put it through my objective logistical measure just not today.
Three is my current fascination that is holding attention.

 

[Feck]

Yima and his "ark"
this is a "city" and an "ark" you can find and date because it is not a boat but it survives the flood. alot of digging involved in the story so that survives almost everything for all time.
dating to 7300ish bc [greeks said zoroaster lived 5000 years before troy and yima lived 33 generations before that]

you can read that noe tore down the house of god [the great coffer] to make his boat.

 

[Jd755]

Yima and his "ark"
this is a "city" and an "ark" you can find and date because it is not a boat but it survives the flood. alot of digging involved in the story so that survives almost everything for all time.
dating to 7300ish bc [greeks said zoroaster lived 5000 years before troy and yima lived 33 generations before that]

you can read that noe tore down the house of god [the great coffer] to make his boat.

City makes no sense either unless the height of the rising tide from the flood was known prior to the event. If it was then the city chosen would be one above the high water mark.
Once again all the objective issues I laid out above apply except for a city being vastly more capable of accommodating man and animal in relative comfort compared to a wooden ship.

Folk are coming and going from a city all the time so knowledge of any changes to said flood survivor would be disemminated far and wide by these travellers. I suggest there would be a movement of people from outside the city in two directions once it became known a flood was coming.
They would either seek ground higher than the city taking family, animals,stores, with them or move into the city itself. Obviously some would figure out its bollocks and stay put and others would up sticks and set off in general direction away from that where the water is foretold to come from and how far it is likely to travel.

Mind that said a tank containing a pair of sharks being hauled up the hill to the city might also raise an eyebrow in the population through which it passes and I'm sure the building of a tank to hold a pair of blue whales would not go unnoticed. How they filled the tanks to hold all the sea animals is a mystery.

Nobody knows when the story was first told or written. Nobody knows why. It could be a story for entertainment, it couild be script of an act performed by actors on a stage, it could be a song or a poem corrupted inadvertently by passing from bard to bard over the generations, it could be a transcription of a bards story or a travellers story or equally a young man writing down tales from an old man before he died.
The old man could have been having a laugh, telling tall tales we will never know.
It could also have been written specifically for the book of stories that was or came to be called bible whose purpose was to obfuscate reality in certain groups of people or as a simple tool of imposition of a desirable dogma on certain groups of people.
I couild go on to the end of my days listing could be after could be and I would die not knowing if any were even close to the truth.

People treat it in a seemingly infinite number of ways. Using its words, content, characters and events to weave in and justify their beliefs no matter what they are.
If that doesn't stand as a tool for the obfuscation of reality I don't know what does.

Does anyone have the phone number of the killer asteroid pilot?

Edit to add;
Feck.
If you are not already aware the entire series of books has been painstakingly digitised and made available here.
Sacred Books of the East Index

 

[Deleted member 1432]

the one I am working on includes the template to translate ancient Hebrew such as the Bible text into Sumerian,

In the past you have stated that ancient Hebrew is as good as identical to Sumerian and Phoenician, so why would a "template" be necessary?

If the author wrote in both Ugaritic and Paleo-Hebrew, (because he was an Amorite by heritage but a Hebrew at that time period) that is to say, using a cuneiform writing system close to Sumerian, and an alphabet without vowels nearly identical with Phoenician, why would it not be considered an original work of his?

As this thread s already wildly off-topic - I notice in your Covid book that you associate the abduction phenomena with the Alien Agenda as well as the Covid Agenda. Have you not noticed that in many South American countries surrounding your own location, thousands of similar experiences have been and are continuing to be reported on an ongoing basis, whereby contact is claimed between 'inter-dimensional beings' (for want of a better description) that are known in the traditional folklore of the indigenous peoples? What makes the 'abductee' experience in your Covid book specifically 'alien', i.e. from another planet?

 

[Feck]

City makes no sense either unless the height of the rising tide from the flood was known prior to the event. If it was then the city chosen would be one above the high water mark.
Once again all the objective issues I laid out above apply except for a city being vastly more capable of accommodating man and animal in relative comfort compared to a wooden ship.

Folk are coming and going from a city all the time so knowledge of any changes to said flood survivor would be disemminated far and wide by these travellers. I suggest there would be a movement of people from outside the city in two directions once it became known a flood was coming.
They would either seek ground higher than the city taking family, animals,stores, with them or move into the city itself. Obviously some would figure out its bollocks and stay put and others would up sticks and set off in general direction away from that where the water is foretold to come from and how far it is likely to travel.

Mind that said a tank containing a pair of sharks being hauled up the hill to the city might also raise an eyebrow in the population through which it passes and I'm sure the building of a tank to hold a pair of blue whales would not go unnoticed. How they filled the tanks to hold all the sea animals is a mystery.

Nobody knows when the story was first told or written. Nobody knows why. It could be a story for entertainment, it couild be script of an act performed by actors on a stage, it could be a song or a poem corrupted inadvertently by passing from bard to bard over the generations, it could be a transcription of a bards story or a travellers story or equally a young man writing down tales from an old man before he died.
The old man could have been having a laugh, telling tall tales we will never know.
It could also have been written specifically for the book of stories that was or came to be called bible whose purpose was to obfuscate reality in certain groups of people or as a simple tool of imposition of a desirable dogma on certain groups of people.
I couild go on to the end of my days listing could be after could be and I would die not knowing if any were even close to the truth.

People treat it in a seemingly infinite number of ways. Using its words, content, characters and events to weave in and justify their beliefs no matter what they are.
If that doesn't stand as a tool for the obfuscation of reality I don't know what does.

Does anyone have the phone number of the killer asteroid pilot?

Edit to add;
Feck.
If you are not already aware the entire series of books has been painstakingly digitised and made available here.
Sacred Books of the East Index

in university, in order to drink for free on Tuesday nights, you needed to be able to talk about any mythology. the better conversation the more booze so I have read alot of stuff and listened to alot more.
I have been in a church about 3 times in my life and being an old geotechnical engineer by training anything built is of interest to me.

official dogma [255 catholic] says what god created still exists.
#1-God, our Creator and Lord, can be known with certainty, by the natural light of reason from created things.
-God keeps all created things in existence.
-God through His providence protects and guides all that He has created

in the bible god built Zion [city] and laid a foundation stone. and it says we are supposed to find it and walk around it and marvel at it and that will fix things for humans. I am all in for that. but if you find anything and want to publish, they want you to put it through the dogmatic theology department at the Vatican. there is a dark underbelly....

re:yima... it is not that difficult to find a huge auroch based economy. aurochs lived in very particular places. they had critical needs. they were massive and dangerous and had to be managed carefully. the romans knew this and promptly found the "ark" and thus a new religion swept Rome. but they could not "own" that religion and it was morphed into something they could.

most of the big mysteries can be answered in a few square miles of ground.

 

[Jd755]

No need to defend your abilities to strangers on the internet. I look at the story put forward for clues to veracity as I outlined back up the thread.

re:yima... it is not that difficult to find a huge auroch based economy. aurochs lived in very particular places. they had critical needs.

Go on then provide some good places to look. I am intrigued.

most of the big mysteries can be answered in a few square miles of ground.

Again show me either here, for continuity or in a new thread.

As for being wildly off topic. I just re-read the op and the claims being made to remind myself, then read through all four pages and it all seems relevant to investigating the claims being made.
To each their own.

 

[Feck]

Go on then provide some good places to look. I am intrigued.


Again show me either here, for continuity or in a new thread.

aurochs needed brackish or salt marshes. aurochs needed good sturdy [massive] drivelines. auroch needed sturdy [massive] pens.
it is not a mystery where huge salt marshes were. and the huge ones surrounded by mountains were best.
one the end of the oval swamp you would have a large embankment and there would be a zigzag selection ditch exit with drivelines leading to the pen, kill floor etc. its on trajans column at the beginning. he is loving looking at it.

zigzag ditch [it was a fairly cheap simple little excavation]
rectangular cow pen [ditto] better pictures at bottom here

 

[Jd755]

aurochs needed brackish or salt marshes. aurochs needed good sturdy [massive] drivelines. auroch needed sturdy [massive] pens.
it is not a mystery where huge salt marshes were. and the huge ones surrounded by mountains were best.
one the end of the oval swamp you would have a large embankment and there would be a zigzag selection ditch exit with drivelines leading to the pen, kill floor etc. its on trajans column at the beginning. he is loving looking at it.

zigzag ditch [it was a fairly cheap simple little excavation]
rectangular cow pen [ditto] better pictures at bottom here

That's it?
Google earth and some pictures of excavations which are then interpreted by university trained academics employed by universities?
Ye gods. I despair.

 

[Feck]

That's it?
Google earth and some pictures of excavations which are then interpreted by university trained academics employed by universities?
Ye gods. I despair.

that is how the world works. you must despair a great deal.

 

[Jd755]

that is how the world works. you must despair a great deal.

Just for continuity sake I'll post this here.
Jim if that's not accerptable say so and I'll move it.
Using gibiru I was able to find this.
Animal Genetic Resources Information Bulletin - 16

Going to HISTORY OF THE AUROCHS (BOS TAURUS PRIMIGENIUS) IN POLAND
And reading through it the people who make the claim of the lasdt auroch dying in Poland in 1630 have never actually clapped eyes on the original source document.

Once more we see academics quoting academia to create a piece of pure speculation that is taken up by people to reinforce their beliefs.

Hey ho such is life.

 

[Feck]

Just for continuity sake I'll post this here.
Jim if that's not accerptable say so and I'll move it.
Using gibiru I was able to find this.
Animal Genetic Resources Information Bulletin - 16

Going to HISTORY OF THE AUROCHS (BOS TAURUS PRIMIGENIUS) IN POLAND
And reading through it the people who make the claim of the lasdt auroch dying in Poland in 1630 have never actually clapped eyes on the original source document.

Once more we see academics quoting academia to create a piece of pure speculation that is taken up by people to reinforce their beliefs.

Hey ho such is life.

so academia is them and they are bad. you are a mushroom and you are good? is that correct?

 

[Jd755]

so academia is them and they are bad. you are a mushroom and you are good? is that correct?

Not about me. Dear god how many times.
Its the content that the claim relies on that matters.
In your claim of yima and the ark and linking with aurochs and Rome and the roman church the only content you provided is a google earth map and some pictures of excavations.
No report of excavations for perusal, no list of site finds, nothing.

EDIT to add
Apologies you also supplied a link to a site where academics are speculating on the work of other academic speculation.

It is not sensible to expect anything supporting claims of what is said to have happened thousands of years ago. It is sensible to expect the people speculating about the last aurochs death to have at least read the content of the original document or read English translation of it.

As it is both you and jim appear to be more than happy having speculative discussions about speculation.
As I said each to their own.

With apologies to will scarlet as I have now gone way off topic.

 

[Feck]

Not about me. Dear god how many times.
Its the content that the claim relies on that matters.
In your claim of yima and the ark and linking with aurochs and Rome and the roman church the only content you provided is a google earth map and some pictures of excavations.
No report of excavations for perusal, no list of site finds, nothing.

It is not sensible to expect anything supporting claims of what is said to have happened thousands of years ago. It is sensible to expect the people speculating about the last aurochs death to have at least read the content of the original document or read English translation of it.

As it is both you and jim appear to be more than happy having speculative discussions about speculation.
As I said each to their own.

With apologies to will scarlet as I have now gone way off topic.

I do not actually understand what aurochs in Poland in 1640 have to do with anything. cows need salt. cows die without salt. large cows need alot of salt. wild cows got salt from salt marshes. humans managed that process. it is not wild speculation.

re artifacts... the point was to date the building of the ditch and the cow pen. look for evidence of alot of cow crap in the soil. not archaeology exactly. billed under environmental engineering.

 

[Jd755]

re:yima... it is not that difficult to find a huge auroch based economy. aurochs lived in very particular places. they had critical needs. they were massive and dangerous and had to be managed carefully. the romans knew this and promptly found the "ark" and thus a new religion swept Rome. but they could not "own" that religion and it was morphed into something they could.

You brought the buggers up!
I then asked for more.

Go on then provide some good places to look. I am intrigued.

You provided this.

aurochs needed brackish or salt marshes. aurochs needed good sturdy [massive] drivelines. auroch needed sturdy [massive] pens.
it is not a mystery where huge salt marshes were. and the huge ones surrounded by mountains were best.
one the end of the oval swamp you would have a large embankment and there would be a zigzag selection ditch exit with drivelines leading to the pen, kill floor etc. its on trajans column at the beginning. he is loving looking at it.

So I went looking for anything that supports your claim of their being an auroch based ecomny which somehow supports your claim of the ark being a city.

Gibiru and I couldnt find anything to back up your claim.
The death of the last auroch claim of being 1627 surprised me in light of the claim of date for the ark at yima so I pursued it as it might have revealed evidence of an auroch based economy.
It didnt because its just academic speculation building on academic speculation.

That's the sum of it.

There is no methodology that can date physical a artifacts and to use them to date the place they are found is fraudulent.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

look for evidence of alot of cow crap in the soil.

...decayed vegetable matter, like peat, is evidence of ancient giant cows?

With apologies to will scarlet as I have now gone way off topic.

I was referring to books about alien cures for Covid and translation templates, so you are forgiven.

 

[Feck]

So I went looking for anything that supports your claim of their being an auroch based ecomny which somehow supports your claim of the ark being a city.

never said that. if you read the yima link there is a city and an "ark". ark survives destruction of city.

 

[Jd755]

decayed vegetable matter, like peat, is evidence of ancient giant cows?

Ooh missed that bit.
Cow shit does not survive long on the ground. Its too valuable a resource. In a midden its stored up and then used.
Sphagnum moss grows for as long as its growing conditions allow and it grows best on top of the dead remains of itself which creates anaerobic conditions that preserves organic material so well.

 

[Feck]

...decayed vegetable matter, like peat, is evidence of ancient giant cows?

cow crap is not just decayed vegetable matter like peat. quantities of it leave chemical markers. finding multiple markers suggests cow crap.

 

[Jd755]

never said that. if you read the yima link there is a city and an "ark". ark survives destruction of city.

Okay the stone ark was in the city of yima. So we are back to the same issues the wooden ark has.
You don't actually have any content to present in here do you.

 

[Feck]

Ooh missed that bit.
Cow shit does not survive long on the ground. Its too valuable a resource. In a midden its stored up and then used.
Sphagnum moss grows for as long as its growing conditions allow and it grows best on top of the dead remains of itself which creates anaerobic conditions that preserves organic material so well.

so are you suggesting that you cannot find cow crap in archaeological contexts? did you look for articles about folks finding crap in neolithic sites at all? 5th labour of Hercules involved rerouting a waterway to clean out the crap in the Augean stables

Okay the stone ark was in the city of yima. So we are back to the same issues the wooden ark has.
You don't actually have any content to present in here do you.

no the ark was not in the city. its hard to present anything to a mushroom.