The End

[Tomkat]

I used to belong to a UK organisation that has been going for over 50 years - RILKO - the Research into Lost Knowledge Organisation. Like here, they would discuss (in meetings not online) a wide range of topics looking to unearth the truth about our history. The speakers were experts in one aspect of history and had often spent their whole adult life researching this particular field. An example of this was John Michel who focused on sacred geometry. I learnt so much from their persistence and dedication to their particular obsession (maybe the wrong word but that’s how it seemed to me). I then left the group and kind of forgot about it but rejoined a couple of years ago after a break of around 30 years. What shocked me was that they were still focusing on the same topics having got no further, and it seemed that they didn’t want to have a moment of true understanding / revelation but were still in the organisation for the opportunity to display their erudition and share their knowledge. It made me think of people in a dark room trying to grasp what the room was like by shining a torch on little corners of the vastness but no one wanted to try to find the light switch to see the bigger picture. Could it be the problem here? Too many disparate threads when everyone on here knows that most of what we have been told and taught is a lie. We just need one answer: Why have they been lying to us for so long? That’s it really.

That's so interesting Just. Being in a group like that I mean. Really cool. That's the kind of thing I'd love to sit and talk with you about over coffee or tea for about three hours.
Insofar as only one real question I think you're right.
I think you hit on something big as well; maybe we know if we turn on the overhead light the fun part is over, the jig is up, the mystery and all that it might possibly be over...no more dreaming...no more hope...

Some movies are so good you never want them to end, same for a perfect summer day when your 15, if you are lucky enough to have experienced these things. Most aren't I suppose.

Nevertheless, I'm team Maxine/Jeenam : onward and upward until the end. And that's not now. Not ever.

"The Willow turns his back on inclement weather..."

 

[ViniB]

I'll use the silliest analogy here, but it feels just about right. All of us here are like that penguin going for the mountains, we choose to abandon our colonies (imposed societal norms) to go for the mountains far away (the truth about everything)

It may look impossible, but we'll be there anyway. Apart from physical death, every defeat in pursuit of truth is psychological

 

[feralimal]

I'll use the silliest analogy here, but it feels just about right. All of us here are like that penguin going for the mountains, we choose to abandon our colonies (imposed societal norms) to go for the mountains far away (the truth about everything)

It may look impossible, but we'll be there anyway. Apart from physical death, every defeat in pursuit of truth is psychological

This one:

 

[Jd755]

Why have they been lying to us for so long?

"Their" assumption of rule by authority in the present stands on the control of a past...is the best fist I make of it.
"They" of today use "the future" in a similar way.

Trouble is we lie to ourselves, go along with the lies of others, kowtow to the presumption of authority outside ourselves all for the sake of convenience and boredom. We are insane.

 

[Just]

"Their" assumption of rule by authority in the present stands on the control of a past...is the best fist I make of it.
"They" of today use "the future" in a similar way.

Trouble is we lie to ourselves, go along with the lies of others, kowtow to the presumption of authority outside ourselves all for the sake of convenience and boredom. We are insane.

We lie to ourselves? As a child, I asked questions constantly because I didn’t believe anything I was being told about the world and how it worked. Lies are much harder to remember than the truth which resonates with you. So I made up my own stories and read science fiction stories which it turns out were probably closer to the truth. The biggest lie is probably the cause of why all the other lies were invented: our world is not a spinning ball and we can’t know this. If you’re laughing now it’s because we’ve been conditioned to laugh at this. They’d much rather we believed in space aliens because that will cement the spinning ball model. I actually no longer care if I’m ridiculed for this because at this point I know it’s true and that’s all I’ve ever wanted to do - to find out the truth. Remember the song ‘Money makes the world go round’? The truth is the belief that we’re on a spinning globe has enabled the rulers who perpetuate this lie to get super-rich by their ‘free masonry’ theft. They came / they stole / they claimed it was theirs. Everything they found in the recently unoccupied lands could be claimed as theirs. It will be the most shocking revelation of all the disclosures to come and could well land all of us who know this in a newly repurposed tartarian building as an insane asylum. Oh and remember the ‘climate change’ hoax? The climate is changing but not for the reasons they give (who believed cow farts caused it - anyone?) As Stergios suggests, there are extended lands beyond ours, some thawing some freezing over. We are close to seeing the newly exposed lands. The gig is up. So ‘The End’? Of course it is.

 

[Jd755]

Interesting to see you get irked by the words of the second paragraph but make no reference to the first.

Thank you for the examples of how "they" use the future.

It will be the most shocking revelation of all the disclosures to come

We are close to seeing the newly exposed lands.

Who or what is Stergios and why are they entrusted as an outside authority?

 

[Jd755]

Words can only be seen, heard, written by man. Religion is a man made idea as all religions have a book of written words as their base. Strikes me as being obvious and has done for years.
Words are used to claim authority. Authority of one over another, a few over the many, makes no odds its the same game.

Words are used to invent a past that is used as the basis of said claim. Names that never were, events that didn't happen, explanations that are pure invention. Its easy as there is no methodology whatsoeveratall that can prove or disprove any of them. We do the rest by believing in authority outside of ourselves.
Justs RILKO experience shows how its done and RILKO is a tiny version of the academic world where the invented past is baked in as the "real" past.

Sure some academics will realise they are peddling lies but few if any will give up their belief in money and status so they keep quiet and sate their beliefs by peddling more lies. Seen it first hand many times. Done it myself. The path of least resistance is an easy path to find and convenient to take.

I sit here and state I know this "earth" is a level plane from my observation and experience of life, for example and for me that's good enough. I can also state the sky doesn't meet the sea or the earth and can prove it to anyone by physically taking them from point A to point B which is again good enough.
But people want to believe in a "dome" which they don't experience.
Well that's what I know goes on in academia. It is the belief itself that "they" exploit to invent a past so "they" can assume authority over others for whatever reason "they" choose to invent.


I know there is no way to know what the true history was and its obvious there is no record of what has gone before. Perhaps everything simply comes into being when "I" do and the whole arises mutually. Perhaps "I" am the transient portion and everything else is immutable. Clearly though there is only now. The past and the future are ideas. The only place they can be experienced is in thought which only occurs in the now!

 

[Just]

Words can only be seen, heard, written by man. Religion is a man made idea as all religions have a book of written words as their base. Strikes me as being obvious and has done for years.
Words are used to claim authority. Authority of one over another, a few over the many, makes no odds its the same game.

Words are used to invent a past that is used as the basis of said claim. Names that never were, events that didn't happen, explanations that are pure invention. Its easy as there is no methodology whatsoeveratall that can prove or disprove any of them. We do the rest by believing in authority outside of ourselves.
Justs RILKO experience shows how its done and RILKO is a tiny version of the academic world where the invented past is baked in as the "real" past.

Sure some academics will realise they are peddling lies but few if any will give up their belief in money and status so they keep quiet and sate their beliefs by peddling more lies. Seen it first hand many times. Done it myself. The path of least resistance is an easy path to find and convenient to take.

I sit here and state I know this "earth" is a level plane from my observation and experience of life, for example and for me that's good enough. I can also state the sky doesn't meet the sea or the earth and can prove it to anyone by physically taking them from point A to point B which is again good enough.
But people want to believe in a "dome" which they don't experience.
Well that's what I know goes on in academia. It is the belief itself that "they" exploit to invent a past so "they" can assume authority over others for whatever reason "they" choose to invent.


I know there is no way to know what the true history was and its obvious there is no record of what has gone before. Perhaps everything simply comes into being when "I" do and the whole arises mutually. Perhaps "I" am the transient portion and everything else is immutable. Clearly though there is only now. The past and the future are ideas. The only place they can be experienced is in thought which only occurs in the now!

Interesting, and this solipsistic view of the world is where I used to stand. But then I started to question why any obfuscation and distortion would be necessary if essentially I’m just making it all up? Why would the NPCs in this world have a plan to confuse you by saying we’re on a spinning ball when all the evidence seems to be telling us something different. In a world which you are making up (or is this not what you’re saying?) wouldn’t everything have its own internal logic? Just wondering..

 

[Just]

Interesting to see you get irked by the words of the second paragraph but make no reference to the first.

Thank you for the examples of how "they" use the future.


Who or what is Stergios and why are they entrusted as an outside authority?

Stergios ‘Vibes of Cosmos’ and Ewaranon’s Lost History of Flat Earth (the last 35 minutes covers the same theory) both put forward the idea that the moon is a plasma entity and the ‘craters’ on it are an inverted ‘map’ of the Earth plane. We are on the quarter of the earth that is inhabitable (planet originally meant part of a plane) the rest being covered by ice. We’re in ‘God’s clock’ (see the astrolabe Prague clock for the mechanics of it). A terrarium which is inescapable due to the impenetrable firmament. I’d guess they keep having resets because it takes 100 years or so before people begin to realise it without getting told they’re insane and being institutionalised. Why do I believe this? Because I recognised it as true. Does that ever happen to you? I would say ‘the truth sings to me’ but then I guess I’d sound even more insane. I do think all humans have this ability. NPCs don’t.

 

[Jd755]

Interesting, and this solipsistic view of the world is where I used to stand. But then I started to question why any obfuscation and distortion would be necessary if essentially I’m just making it all up? Why would the NPCs in this world have a plan to confuse you by saying we’re on a spinning ball when all the evidence seems to be telling us something different. In a world which you are making up (or is this not what you’re saying?) wouldn’t everything have its own internal logic? Just wondering..

Just re read my post and I cannot make it any clearer.

 

[Jd755]

Stergios ‘Vibes of Cosmos’ and Ewaranon’s Lost History of Flat Earth (the last 35 minutes covers the same theory) both put forward the idea that the moon is a plasma entity and the ‘craters’ on it are an inverted ‘map’ of the Earth plane.

Aah. Youtubes. Gotcha.

 

[Jd755]

Why do I believe this? Because I recognised it as true. Does that ever happen to you?

What, recognising truth for what it is?

 

[Just]

Aah. Youtubes. Gotcha.

Why the put-down? The current widespread dismissal of online content is suspiciously reminiscent of the ‘has it been fact-checked?’ covid days. I found it online because it isn’t in books because no one would agree to publish it. Actually Vibes of Cosmos is in a hard copy format but I have only seen it online. Does that make it less likely to be true? We have lies buried in libraries but somehow people are more likely to value the printed word. Beats me.

 

[Just]

What, recognising truth for what it is?

Er yes?

 

[Jd755]

Er yes?

Er yes.

 

[Jd755]

Why the put-down? The current widespread dismissal of online content is suspiciously reminiscent of the ‘has it been fact-checked?’ covid days. I found it online because it isn’t in books because no one would agree to publish it. Actually Vibes of Cosmos is in a hard copy format but I have only seen it online. Does that make it less likely to be true? We have lies buried in libraries but somehow people are more likely to value the printed word. Beats me.

Because youtubes are entertainment. Also I looked deep into ewaranon and he is a fraud. Its all documented on here somewhere.
As for vibes of the cosmos being a hard copy well I just assumed it was a youtube as you quoted it with ewaranon. That said I read about the moon earth mirror theory years and years ago. Cannot recall the name of the website, sorry, otherwise I would link it even if its in waybackmachine.

As for the moon other than it being a light above my head and not being a sphere above my head like the sun is I don't have a clue what it is. Something translucent slides back and forth over it, it vanishes fom view. It moves its position in the sky sometimes nightly.
Thats the sum of it.
Why anyone chooses to trust the opinion of another and hold it up as fact or indeed "the truth" is beyond me, no matter the media the opinion is recorded in.

 

[Jd755]

For those interested Vibes of Cosmos videos are here.
Vibes of Cosmos - Season 2 - The Savoisien

 

[Just]

Er yes.

Only asking because during the codemic

Because youtubes are entertainment. Also I looked deep into ewaranon and he is a fraud. Its all documented on here somewhere.
As for vibes of the cosmos being a hard copy well I just assumed it was a youtube as you quoted it with ewaranon. That said I read about the moon earth mirror theory years and years ago. Cannot recall the name of the website, sorry, otherwise I would link it even if its in waybackmachine.

As for the moon other than it being a light above my head and not being a sphere above my head like the sun is I don't have a clue what it is. Something translucent slides back and forth over it, it vanishes fom view. It moves its position in the sky sometimes nightly.
Thats the sum of it.
Why anyone chooses to trust the opinion of another and hold it up as fact or indeed "the truth" is beyond me, no matter the media the opinion is recorded in.

I agree. As I said, this made me think about a ‘unifying theory’ to explain all the other things I didn’t believe. All the people during the condemic who blocked me online / stopped socialising with me / blanked me were in my opinion people who fell for the second biggest con in the (known) history of humanity. Globe earth is the first.

 

[Jd755]

I just regard the virus believers as being too lazy to look into things. As I said the path of least resistance is easy to take.
They would much rather lie to themselves than find out they have been lied too.
Nobody over my years has ever mentioned earth shape to me nor I to they. In person I mean.

 

[Just]

Only asking because during the codemic

I agree. As I said, this made me think about a ‘unifying theory’ to explain all the other things I didn’t believe. All the people during the condemic who blocked me online / stopped socialising with me / blanked me were in my opinion people who fell for the second biggest con in the (known) history of humanity. Globe earth is the first.

Because youtubes are entertainment. Also I looked deep into ewaranon and he is a fraud. Its all documented on here somewhere.
As for vibes of the cosmos being a hard copy well I just assumed it was a youtube as you quoted it with ewaranon. That said I read about the moon earth mirror theory years and years ago. Cannot recall the name of the website, sorry, otherwise I would link it even if its in waybackmachine.

As for the moon other than it being a light above my head and not being a sphere above my head like the sun is I don't have a clue what it is. Something translucent slides back and forth over it, it vanishes fom view. It moves its position in the sky sometimes nightly.
Thats the sum of it.
Why anyone chooses to trust the opinion of another and hold it up as fact or indeed "the truth" is beyond me, no matter the media the opinion is recorded in.

Re Ewaranon being fake, he’s clearly not one person. The narrator is not the writer (this is clear from his inability to pronounce a number of words which the writer would have had to know). The later videos kind of nonsensically discredited the first videos and then went on to bore us all with the ill-researched nonsense. The narrator is a North London actor. Ewaranon has disappeared or died or been done away with. But what he said originally is still up there to watch and appraise and whether or not you hold with it, there’s a lot to learn in it from various well-researched threads (possibly borrowed from other sources but hey I don’t mind where they come from). All that matters is the content. The message not the medium.