SH Archive The forgotten people of Tahuglauk and Mozeemlek: 17th century North America

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-02-15 02:55:46
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I thought we bought Alaska? Anyways, I'd be interested to learn of your recent discoveries on the subject of Tartaryah in Canada.

Side note: As a forager I noticed years ago that so many species of plants here in the US are native to China. When I first started studying plants and made this observation, I thought, what did the native peoples eat before China brought everything over? Maybe they WERE the native people?
Fascinating find, KD.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-02-15 17:24:08
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Mithras is depicted with a pointy cap. Interestingly disappears from history in th 4th century CE
Reminds me of these supposed ancient cave drawings of lamarche (the titled Lamarche family included map makers)
No beards though.


Prehistoric Cave-art.

 

[veeall]

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Date: 2020-07-18 03:30:56
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Mithras is depicted with a pointy cap. Interestingly disappears from history in th 4th century CE
Reminds me of these supposed ancient cave drawings of lamarche (the titled Lamarche family included map makers)
No beards though.
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Prehistoric Cave-art.

Hi! Was just reading the chicago world fair threads here on SH. Anybody noticed the huge sculpture in the lake was carrying the same pointy hat on a stick there. Here, spot the differences:

 

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Username: RTP now
Date: 2020-07-18 11:25:24
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Mozeemlek savages, whom I took for Spaniards. My mistake was occasioned by the great difference between these two American nations; for the Mozeemlek savages were clothed, they had a thick bushy beard, and their hair hung down under their ears; their complexion was swarthy, their address was civil and submissive, their mien grave, and their carriage engaging.

Interesting description of these people... definitely sounds like there were all kinds of different people populating this land.

I definitely agree that it likely took longer to conquer the West because the people were more organized with better defensive capabilities.

 

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Username: SanPhaedrus
Date: 2020-07-18 20:27:36
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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2020-07-19 01:12:20
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It’s funny how the naked people look like clones.

 

[BStankman]

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Username: BStankman
Date: 2020-07-19 09:07:05
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Zoomable map here. Rare Map of New Voyages to North-America. Containing an Account of the Several Nations of That Vast Continent... from Neatline Antique & Vintage Maps

Volume 2 has an interesting depiction of natives.

 

[jonnye]

The California White tribe:
To the American Indian: Reminiscences of a Yurok Woman by Lucy Thompson (1856-1932). Her testimony:

TRADITIONS OF THE ANCIENT WHITE PEOPLE

When the Indians first made their appearance on the Klamath River it was already inhabited by a white race of people known among us as the Wa-gas. These white people were found to inhabit the whole continent, and were a highly moral and civilized race. They heartily welcomed the Indians to their country and taught us all of their arts and sciences. The Indians recognized the rights of these ancient people as the first possessors of the soil and no difficulties ever arose between the two people. Their hospitality was exceedingly generous in the welfare of our people and all prospered together in peace and happiness, in their pursuit of human existence. After a time there were inter-marriages between the two races, but these were never promiscuous. For a vast period of time the two races dwelt together in peace and honored homes, wars and quarrels were unknown in this golden age of happiness. No depredations were ever committed upon the property of their people, as the white people ruled with beacon light of kindness, and our people still worship the hallowed places where once they trod. Their morals were far superior to the white people of today; their ideals were high and inspired our people with greatness. After we had lived with these ancient people so long, they suddenly called their hosts together and mysteriously disappeared for a distant land, we know not where.