SH Archive The Phoenicians Once Ruled the World. They still do today!

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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-17 20:34:25
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A thought just crossed my mind that possibly one of their end goals is to restore their ancient religion on the world. Worship of Astarte, probably with a new name. Feminism is a harbinger. Notice how it started as equality, but now has become female superiority? That's f**ked up. A true feminist should say that God is neither male nor female, assigning a sex to God is absurd. The answer isn't: feminism rocks, now God is a chick! Rumours are afloat of paedophilia being normalised, and sex trafficking being normalised might relate to the Phoenician way of life being restored on a global scale. I'm trying to keep away from this part of the equation for now though, right now I think it would be more valuable to actually trace the connections around the world of this society becoming manifested. Otherwise we risk this topic becoming extremely politicised which is something I'd like to avoid in this current climate.

I'm not saying anyone here should relent on their ideas, let loose! My mind is currently stuck in the 1500's though
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Excellent research! I had no idea about that star, very interesting clue. I dug a bit and found another, similar, opinion here:

Of course, Venus is also Astarte/Isis, etc. So sure, why not. Anyway, wouldn't that be AMAZING if America was named by the Phoenicians wayyyyy before Columbus sailed the ocean blue?

Here's a funny coincidence for you...

Meet Amerigo Vespucci, an explorer who's name became America because it was put on a map of Brasil.


His brother was married to this fine lady, Simonetta Vespucci, rumoured to be the most beautiful woman in Italy, who died tragically at 22 years old. (Apologies for the very tame nudity in this classic art)


And it's rumoured that her likeness inspired Sandro Botticelli to cast her in the role of Venus in his famous Birth of Venus painting a few years later.


This family had strong ties to the Medici family (which I'm SURE is somehow connected to all of this), and in fact one of the Medici brothers died in a grand assassination plot 2 years to the day of her death.

So there it is, VENUS twice in close proximity to the naming of America. Weird.
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This is FASCINATING. Unfortunately it only starts as early as 400BC. The Population numbers are RIDICULOUS. But whatever, look at the land changes over the years! See if you can see any clues. I have a few ideas
 
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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-18 01:43:26
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the double headed buzzard is likely tartarian in origin, the fact that the place it most appears is russia isnt a coincidence
wait so if everyone has phoenician blood (due to them being your ancestors), them everyone is evil?
again this is too mainstream for me, i came here to flee from that insane illuminati controls everthing crowd
uh oh this is what i was talking about when i said alex jones
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-18 03:55:18
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You don't need to participate in this thread if it doesn't interest you. Plenty of other interesting topics elsewhere.
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-07-18 04:26:23
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I think it unlikely that a new land/continent would be named after Amerigo Vespucci. For one thing , when you named something you named if after your family name, not your given/Christian name. For another thing, America would be the Latinized FEMININE form of Americus which is also highly unlikely. Plus, in 1492 while Christopher Columbus was opening up the New World to the rest of the world, Vespucci (a merchant nick-named "the pickle dealer") was busy doing dirty work for Medici. Yes, he was a cartographer and navigator but hardly worthy of the honor of having a continent named after him (or a feminized version of him).

For the record, I don't think everyone is evil and that everything is a grand conspiracy. I think most people are just ignorant that the Phoenicians, an Asiatic Semite people, blended invisibly into their local cultures but never forgot their original horned-god religion and that it persists to this day. In fact, for the most part, they've done a lot of good by building great civilizations, improving land and culture, medicine, law, agriculture, etc. wherever they went. Who knows? Maybe over the centuries/millenia their religion has been corrupted. Maybe they blended in and hid in the shadows too well allowing their original purpose to be so obscured and corrupted as to be unrecognizable in its current form? But I think that they did once rule the world and that they still do today.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-18 14:58:03
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A little side note. All the continents start with “A”. Europe is not a continent obviously. How and why would they coordinate such things back then?
 
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Username: parta
Date: 2018-07-18 15:31:06
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maybe by family administration. application of a plan?

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i was reading about the aabera-im. a group of shemites the crossed over into hamitic lands. aabera means to cross over. were the phoenicians shemites [semites] in hamitic ands? probably.

 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-18 18:00:42
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Anyone knows when in our modern history we found out about the Phoenicians for the very first time? As in what are the original sources and where are they?
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-18 19:42:47
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Great observations, really adds to the mystery...

Why is it everywhere I look that this keeps coming up? To add to the Venus star idea, I dug on Columbus's name. Long story short, it is very much related to Dove. So I search for Doves in mythology and I get this from Wikipedia: "In ancient Mesopotamia, doves were prominent animal symbols of Inanna-Ishtar, the goddess of love, sexuality, and war." How interesting that Ishtar/Venus yet again "discovers" the new world!

You're completely right though. Why didn't they just call it Columbia? Or Cabotlandia? Or New Spain? It's almost like America was a name they had to use and they had to find a convenient connection to some explorer and the best they could find was the "pickle dealer", hah!

I've been thinking about this. It's possible that the Phoenicians aren't necessarily red-eyes evil. My thoughts on the matter is that these people might be privy to a great truth about the world and reality that FOR SOME REASON they have kept concealed from everyone. And they commit incredibly acts of evil to keep this truth away from us. When they're not in damage control mode, however, they're no trouble. In fact, they may legit bestow great gifts upon us, even to this day with convenient technology breakthroughs here and there. If history really is "Stolen" then perhaps they know. Thing is, they wouldn't be the only ones who know this. It seems that we all used to know this but only in the past few hundred years did we start to scoff at these old myths and legends as being utter fantasies. It very well could be just like starwars where there is a Force, and you can wield it for Light or Darkness.

What I hope to find out, if this actually has any merit, is WHAT THEY ACTUALLY KNOW? I want to know our real origins. If that's some monkey in Africa, so be it. But if there really is a big cover up going on, I suspect they screwed up in hiding the connections, and especially so in the past when they didn't have as tight control on information as they do today.
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I'm really intrigued by this mysterious youtube channel "Sun of Saturn", as we are discussing Venus it's interesting to see how he interprets the bible verses that talk about how Lucifer=Venus. He demonstrates that "star" is never in the original Hebrew and instead of "Morning Star" it should be translated as "Son of the Morning". I feel like part of the mystery is being obscured by mistranslations of the Bible, which if we are to believe it at face value, is indeed a witness to the ancient Phoenicians and was a direct 'reaction' to the culture of the day.
 
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Username: Musashi
Date: 2018-07-18 23:30:45
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Hey, first time posting. Love the vibe and crowd here.

Finally got something relevant to share.

Evidence for ancient voyages to America
Origin of the Name "America"

(Can highly recommend taking a look at Richard Merricks broader work. His grand musical theory of everything is pretty legit and he chases down some interesting historical angles)

I've been following up on the Vedic angle for a while - I consider that a central part of the puzzle - but I'd never really delved into them vs the Phoenicians.. There's some interesting stuff.

First random link I found has some interesting speculations
The Phoenecians as the (hated) Panis in the Rig Veda
 
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Username: humanoidlord
Date: 2018-07-19 01:41:04
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i am exposing my opinion out there, our real history is in reality very chaotic, so i ain't a fan of old cliches like bloodlines or secret societies
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-19 01:57:54
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Fair enough, this is a pretty broad topic. I'm not entirely sure I'm sold on the bloodlines angle, although you can't argue that royalty wasn't obsessed with theirs for some reason.
 
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Username: parta
Date: 2018-07-19 03:15:13
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More than 60 per cent of males in modern-day Europe descend from three Bronze Age leaders.
royalty is probably the 40% that isn't

David Reich, D. Phil., Professor of Genetics Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Harvard Medical School
at 18mins he starts to talk about celtic ancestors and american indians being related. i think someone mentioned that.
peace
 
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Username: perplexed
Date: 2018-07-19 19:49:39
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Considering the Sovereign Military Order of Malta SMOM is the highest order in the world aside from the Black Nobility Order of Jesuits, whatever you come across regarding Malta is definitely on the right path.



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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-19 20:07:51
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How do you guys figure out which order is higher on the pecking list?
 
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Username: perplexed
Date: 2018-07-19 21:07:28
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The pyramid I just posted seems to be one of the most likely to be accurate.

I'm going off topic briefly for a reason, which is to show how convoluted it all really is. Hitler, Himmler, von Braun and other high up Nazi's were all SMOM, which is Swiss nobility, decendents of the Knights Templar. Himmler was actually higher ranked than Hitler, as such called the shots as his handler. When the Reichskonkordat was delivered to the Vatican by Himmler, von Papen and others, and upon signing by Cardinal Pacelli, von Papen and others, a lengthy treaty was formed allowing Hitler to proceed as Chancellor in the good graces of the Vatican.

Included in the konkordat was the creation of a new order called Knights of the Holy See, which in German is Knights of the Sedus Secrorum. One more word to translate here: Knight = Nazi, which condensed is Nazi SS. Himmler was elevated in rank and status to the top of the SMOM, ostensibly making him the highest ranked military leader in the world.

For what it's worth, the Reichskonkordat is still in affect today, as well as the Knights of the Holy See. Pope Plus XI, who had not signed the konkordat, had prepared an amended version as he was not in favor of its language. However he suffered a rather untimely death with the new one unsigned, and Cardinal Pacelli becoming Pope Pius XII roughly one month later. Within that one month vacuum, someone else briefly became the de facto or de jure Pope: you guessed it.......Himmler.
 
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Username: parta
Date: 2018-07-19 21:18:57
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where does the current Megalonymous and his franciscan hitmen fit in? if you need a revolution, call the Mega and his ninja franciscans.
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-19 21:20:04
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Could be relevant actually! Are you able to source all these things? I'd like to dive into it a bit and worry such terms into google will send me down way too many rabbit holes.

Also, do you know much about Papal affairs? I'm particularly interested around the year 1500 when the age of exploration was just beginning. The pope seemed to divvy up the new world between Portugal and Spain. England did a quick mission with the Venetian John Cabot, but then froze for a hundred years. Meanwhile England was married to a Queen from Spain. Only after they broke away from the Pope, and Queen Elizabeth build a navy, and only until they pretty much sunk the Spanish Armada, did England enter the Age of Exploration in force. Makes me think that the Pope was purposely holding England back. WHY? And this is just a hunch, so I wonder if there area any edicts or decrees from the Pope that would prove this idea.

Finally, as I alluded to in earlier posts. When did the notion of "stick a flag in it and the entire landmass is yours" end? Would this law still apply today? Because the Mason's claim they have their flag on the moon thanks to Buzz.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-07-19 21:22:23
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Ok, this Hitler Himmler stuff is interesting plenty to be a whole topic of itself. Im interested and will participate.
 
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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-19 21:29:27
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@perplexed if you'd be down for making a separate thread much in the line of what you just wrote that'd be fascinating to dig on

I feel like it's very much related to this topic, but feels more like current events as it's the pretty recent past

Something like "Himmler outranked Hitler, This is why..." :cool:
 
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Username: perplexed
Date: 2018-07-19 22:02:00
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Just getting home, I can start compiling links hopefully tonight, for sure tomorrow on my twice daily one hour train commute.

Never heard of Megalonymous and his hit men, I just hope their aim is lousy if pointing at me, lol

All of this is very relevant so a new thread it shall be. The split you you speak of created the white pope, and the black nobility pope. (nothing to do with skin color) There's also a grey pope, of which I haven't had time to learn about. At the top of the pyramid, M1 is the Black Nobility Pope, currently in position by Adolfo Nicolas Pachon.

As we all know, something terribly wrong is being disseminated regarding true history.

Quick start for you

https://tabublog.com/2015/12/23/5933/
 
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