The Royal Society's Facts

[feralimal]

But human is not the truth, the human is not the source of all knowing, or is the answer to our questions. We are not the most important thing in this universe. I think that a shift will happen once the ego is stripped from the humans being.

I tend to take the opposite position. Not that I think I'm all knowing. But I do think I am the most important thing in my world. Developing a personal interpretation is the most important thing a human being can do.

Re 'ego being stripped' - in my assessment this stripping has already occured. It is the false replacement that is the problem.

Most individuals' egos have been stripped (by education, culture, etc) and replaced by many and various other 'selves'. These selves have their identity founded on some group, eg country, profession, religion, a political outlook, sportsball team, family even. People are not themselves, they identify as "we" and say things like "we know the earth is round". The communal or non-egoic element is the problem. I hope my contributions to this thread illustrate how language itself is manipulated to garner this effect: that the word 'fact' transitioned from meaning 'personal testimony' to 'what experts say', thereby allowing for the creation of a priest class to determine truth and reality for the individual.

So, if you ask me, it's not the ego that needs stripping away. It's that false collective idea of self that needs to be stripped. I hope some individuals take the opportunity to understand what I'm getting at here! I hope individuals can hearten and find the self-esteem they need to proceed acting according to their personal, lived experience, ignoring provided yet unverified beliefs, and thereby regain themselves. Truth is personal, it can be known and experienced. It is not a consensus. It costs nothing to forget everything you think you know.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

"The mind consists of thoughts. The “I”-thought is the first to arise in the mind. When the enquiry “Who am I?” is persistently pursued, all other thoughts get destroyed, and finally the “I”-thought itself vanishes leaving the supreme non-dual Self alone. The false identification of the Self with the phenomena of non-self such as the body and mind, thus ends, and there is illumination, 'sakshatkara'. The process of enquiry, of course, is not an easy one. As one enquires “Who am I?”, other thoughts will arise; but as these arise, one should not yield to them by following them; on the contrary, one should ask, “To whom do they arise?” In order to do this, one has to be extremely vigilant. Through constant enquiry one should make the mind stay in its source, without allowing it to wander away and get lost in the mazes of thought created by itself. All other disciplines such as breath-control and meditation on the forms of God should be regarded as auxiliary practices. They are useful so far as they help the mind to become quiescent and one-pointed. For the mind that has gained skill in concentration Self-enquiry becomes comparatively easy. It is by ceaseless enquiry that the thoughts are destroyed and the Self realised – the plenary Reality in which there is not even the “I”-thought, the experience which is referred to as “Silence."

"This, in substance, is Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi’s teachings in Nan Yar (Who am I?)"
T.M.P. Mahadevan, University of Madras, June 30, 1982

I tried to upload this short 50 page book to the Resource Library, but there seems to be some kind of server error problem with uploads, hence the rather long quote. Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi was not associated with either the Invisible College or the Royal Society.

 

[feralimal]

"The mind consists of thoughts. The “I”-thought is the first to arise in the mind. When the enquiry “Who am I?” is persistently pursued, all other thoughts get destroyed, and finally the “I”-thought itself vanishes leaving the supreme non-dual Self alone. The false identification of the Self with the phenomena of non-self such as the body and mind, thus ends, and there is illumination, 'sakshatkara'. The process of enquiry, of course, is not an easy one. As one enquires “Who am I?”, other thoughts will arise; but as these arise, one should not yield to them by following them; on the contrary, one should ask, “To whom do they arise?” In order to do this, one has to be extremely vigilant. Through constant enquiry one should make the mind stay in its source, without allowing it to wander away and get lost in the mazes of thought created by itself. All other disciplines such as breath-control and meditation on the forms of God should be regarded as auxiliary practices. They are useful so far as they help the mind to become quiescent and one-pointed. For the
mind that has gained skill in concentration Self-enquiry becomes comparatively easy. It is by ceaseless enquiry that the thoughts are destroyed and the Self realised – the plenary Reality in which there is not even the “I”-thought, the experience which is referred to as “Silence."

"This, in substance, is Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi’s teachings in Nan Yar (Who am I?)"
T.M.P. Mahadevan, University of Madras, June 30, 1982

I tried to upload this short 50 page book to the Resource Library, but there seems to be some kind of server error problem with uploads, hence the rather long quote. Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi was not associated with either the Invisible College or the Royal Society.

You might enjoy these amateur musings, which touch on 'I', that a friend captured:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNYSSKgOoA

 

[ViniB]

You might enjoy these amateur musings, which touch on 'I', that a friend captured:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNYSSKgOoA

As a fellow confused human being, i appreciate the video a lot! It cleared some toughts i had, but coudn't explain. And once again, the more i discover, another rabbit hole opens....... will it ever be an end to it?

P.s. lovelly doggo

 

[feralimal]

Awww.