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[anotherlayer]

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-10-16 22:47:28
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What do you think it is?

i'll stab at it... they ripped off the electric meter and put a clock in it's place?

 

[Archive]

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Username: Apollyon
Date: 2018-10-16 23:01:54
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i'll stab at it... they ripped off the electric meter and put a clock in it's place?

Good guess but that's not what's being suggested. The idea is that a clock is very complicated expensive and precise device which should be kept clean. Putting it over something that is constantly producing ash and soot even if the majority goes up the chimney seems illogical. Same goes for puting something like a mirror or a priceless family portrait above such a thing. The suggestion is that fireplaces may not be A place for fire at all just used as such after the fact, based on the fragility of what we often see above and around them.

 

[anotherlayer]

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Date: 2018-10-16 23:08:33
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Good guess but that's not what's being suggested. The idea is that a clock is very complicated expensive and precise device which should be kept clean. Putting it over something that is constantly producing ash and soot even if the majority goes up the chimney seems illogical. Same goes for puting something like a mirror or a priceless family portrait above such a thing. The suggestion is that fireplaces may not be A place for fire at all just used as such after the fact, based on the fragility of what we often see above and around them.

yeah, yeah, that's what i was getting at. at one time, this wasn't a fireplace, it was some sort of electrical/heating thingamajig. and when it's andirons and flux capacitors were ripped out, they took out the meter and the idiot light and smashed a clock in it's place.

we on the same page.

 

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Username: Apollyon
Date: 2018-10-16 23:17:06
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yeah, yeah, that's what i was getting at. at one time, this wasn't a fireplace, it was some sort of electrical/heating thingamajig. and when it's andirons and flux capacitors were ripped out, they took out the meter and the idiot light and smashed a clock in it's place.

we on the same page.

I dunno about the clock not being original as it is part of what indicates that it wasn't a fire place. A clock is something that I think would always have been useful.

 

[anotherlayer]

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Date: 2018-10-17 00:30:11
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I dunno about the clock not being original as it is part of what indicates that it wasn't a fire place. A clock is something that I think would always have been useful.

oh, i see what you are saying, the clock is original.

 

[Archive]

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2018-10-17 03:01:14
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I dunno guys. I have done some looking into some very old fireplaces. The masons had a trick of balancing the smoke shelf in such a way as to make the combustion air come down the chimney at the same time the exhaust goes up. It is astounding and virtually no one has the know how to recreate it. Actually makes them an efficient heat source. There was a name for it, but it escapes me.

Also, almost everyone I know has a clock over their fireplace. None of them experience any soot damage.

If you are getting soot above your fireplace, you have something seriously wrong, and potentially life threatening. Get a CO sensor at the least.

I'm gonna need more to say that these are not fireplaces.

 

[Bunnyman]

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Date: 2020-04-28 08:36:21
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The shorthand of this is that his heritage traces back to the pre-Charlemagne Merovingian Franks

Interesting. Please watch the below video about the serpent bloodlines and some of the puzzle of what we see going on now may fit in.

 

[SuperTrouper]

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Date: 2020-04-28 13:08:58
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Interesting. Please watch the below video about the serpent bloodlines and some of the puzzle of what we see going on now may fit in.

A story about clear sight from the third eye.

I wonder if he ever gets in trouble for feeding birds. No wonder there are so many.

 

[Kentucky]

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Date: 2020-05-11 13:43:41
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Interesting. Please watch the below video about the serpent bloodlines and some of the puzzle of what we see going on now may fit in.

Thanks for sharing the link to the video. Works such as his offer important pieces of the puzzle and he does a reasonable job of informing the viewer of modern historical narratives based on canonical western history, but there are many conclusions that are drawn that should not be matter-of-factly assumed.

Again, diving deep into it, one will find adversarial relationships between those who appeared to inherit the titles of “Merovingian” and those from which preceded them. It’s apparent that the former “Merovingians” were usurped and absorbed by the Holy Roman Empire, and the histories and motivations of the vanquished were merged and rewritten as those of the victor’s. And so, When history speaks of the Merovingians, it conflates pre- and post-Carolingian claims.

Any modern Merovingian association could be seen a usurpation of the original bloodline and has its loyalties to that which we call the Church, and not necessarily to it’s origins in history. Therefore, the narrative of the serpent seed is at best a conflation of at least two histories (but likely more) and it’s hard to know much more than what canonical western history has weaved together for us to “discover”. Most people that are claimed to be of Merovingian decent, such as the current Royal family, do so by tracing themselves back to Charlemagne, not to pre-Charlemagne Franks.

It can be pretty confusing and I am still trying to sort it out, please feel free to ask any questions and I can try to help give further clarity to what I’ve been coming to an understanding of.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2020-05-11 14:05:37
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Thanks for sharing the link to the video. Works such as his offer important pieces of the puzzle and he does a reasonable job of informing the viewer of modern historical narratives based on canonical western history, but there are many conclusions that are drawn that should not be matter-of-factly assumed.

Again, diving deep into it, one will find adversarial relationships between those who appeared to inherit the titles of “Merovingian” and those from which preceded them. It’s apparent that the former “Merovingians” were usurped and absorbed by the Holy Roman Empire, and the histories and motivations of the vanquished were merged and rewritten as those of the victor’s. And so, When history speaks of the Merovingians, it conflates pre- and post-Carolingian claims.

Any modern Merovingian association could be seen a usurpation of the original bloodline and has its loyalties to that which we call the Church, and not necessarily to it’s origins in history. Therefore, the narrative of the serpent seed is at best a conflation of at least two histories (but likely more) and it’s hard to know much more than what canonical western history has weaved together for us to “discover”. Most people that are claimed to be of Merovingian decent, such as the current Royal family, do so by tracing themselves back to Charlemagne, not to pre-Charlemagne Franks.

It can be pretty confusing and I am still trying to sort it out, please feel free to ask any questions and I can try to help give further clarity to what I’ve been coming to an understanding of.

Along with this is the growing belief (even among mainline, particularly European) that, at the least, the years between 650-950ish AD were fake In other words, they were inserted. Among many other things they believe Carolingians were just the Merovingians And Charlemagne didn’t exist, at least as far as thought of before. Gives a new perspective and should be taken into account.

See A Guide to the Phantom Dark Age, to start A great little book. Also that Swedish (I believe) fellow. Unfortunately (For me anyway : ) most of the writing etc Is not in English.
Anyone know of other books?

 

[fabiorem]

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Date: 2020-05-11 15:13:09
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The more obvious connection is that the Trump "Drum" family has direct ties to the so called Holly Roman Empire

Johann Philipp Trump (1667–1707) in the Holy Roman Empire

I wont hold too much into this evidence, as many surnames lead to nobles from the past.
My own surname was found in a italian marquis for the Holy Roman Empire, and I didnt inherited any coat of arms.

The image you posted says he designed the crests. But what is calling attention to me is not the double-headead eagle, but this hand holding the spear. What this hand means? And why a spear, and not a lightning bolt?

 

[Archive]

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Username: Son of a Bor
Date: 2020-05-11 16:08:28
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See A Guide to the Phantom Dark Age,

A Guide to the Phantom Dark Age

Das erfundene Mittelalter: Die grösste Zeitfälschung der Geschichte (German Edition)

 

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Username: FlyChaos
Date: 2020-05-20 09:49:25
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Why Donald junior has black hair and all of the other kids including Barron have blond hair?

his mom not natural blond ?!

 

[Bunnyman]

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Date: 2020-05-21 12:28:34
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Elusive family background. Ain't it?

Trump is a Presbyterian and as a child was confirmed at the First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens.
Source

 

[Cinzana]

I dunno guys. I have done some looking into some very old fireplaces. The masons had a trick of balancing the smoke shelf in such a way as to make the combustion air come down the chimney at the same time the exhaust goes up. It is astounding and virtually no one has the know how to recreate it. Actually makes them an efficient heat source. There was a name for it, but it escapes me.

Also, almost everyone I know has a clock over their fireplace. None of them experience any soot damage.

If you are getting soot above your fireplace, you have something seriously wrong, and potentially life threatening. Get a CO sensor at the least.

I'm gonna need more to say that these are not fireplaces.

I came across this book in the Cornell University Library. It is an exhaustive guide by Benjamin Rumsford (1753-1814) on the proper construction/modification of fireplaces and chimneys to burn coal and/or wood. Many illustrations, some very poor quality. https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/hearth4290165

 

[GrnScrn]

It could be, perhaps, that he recovered old-world technological secrets of electromagnetism and wireless energy, similar to what has been explored on this forum. I’d be interested to hear more about what anyone may have dug up reg

Stumbled upon this episode when randomly watching my sets of curated collections...

This was in my cowboy western films and show. Along with paladin of have gun will travel...

I personally have a rather locally famous Russian Novel about my ancestor and his intelligence personality and likeness...


These things naturally find thier way into popular culture and narration

Not always of complete truth

For instance the McDonald's have long held the narrative of us Lewesmen seids of torcail and lesser so tormand as skye is held by a Mcdonald blood line infuse now.

Being as we are both claimant to the natural and terrestrial crown of Caledonia and the British isles as well as parts of the world it makes sense the bloody issue betwixed our forces for so so long. We're a root branche not a branch branch... there are occult maps of these bloodlines an the nation's that followed thru resets... I not fully ironically am two opposing root branches that weave again and again up to key prime branches in the tree above as so below... ages past intentional genetic manipulation to create more than just the quizard hadarak me thinks

 

[GrnScrn]

Interesting. Please watch the below video about the serpent bloodlines and some of the puzzle of what we see going on now may fit in.

Thanks for sharing the link to the video. Works such as his offer important pieces of the puzzle and he does a reasonable job of informing the viewer of modern historical narratives based on canonical western history, but there are many conclusions that are drawn that should not be matter-of-factly assumed.

Again, diving deep into it, one will find adversarial relationships between those who appeared to inherit the titles of “Merovingian” and those from which preceded them. It’s apparent that the former “Merovingians” were usurped and absorbed by the Holy Roman Empire, and the histories and motivations of the vanquished were merged and rewritten as those of the victor’s. And so, When history speaks of the Merovingians, it conflates pre- and post-Carolingian claims.

Any modern Merovingian association could be seen a usurpation of the original bloodline and has its loyalties to that which we call the Church, and not necessarily to it’s origins in history. Therefore, the narrative of the serpent seed is at best a conflation of at least two histories (but likely more) and it’s hard to know much more than what canonical western history has weaved together for us to “discover”. Most people that are claimed to be of Merovingian decent, such as the current Royal family, do so by tracing themselves back to Charlemagne, not to pre-Charlemagne Franks.

It can be pretty confusing and I am still trying to sort it out, please feel free to ask any questions and I can try to help give further clarity to what I’ve been coming to an understanding of.

Yar m8 please do pm me about more I am decendant thru the witch kings of Merovingians

 

[GrnScrn]

I came across this book in the Cornell University Library. It is an exhaustive guide by Benjamin Rumsford (1753-1814) on the proper construction/modification of fireplaces and chimneys to burn coal and/or wood. Many illustrations, some very poor quality. https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/hearth4290165

My masonic step grandpa had a few interactions with me about that flue smoke shelf exchange as a lad ...

Remeber one time getting in trouble with the losaltos fire marshal about his set up. And then appealing by code to a higher authority and ll the fines disappearing... dumb girls of my family didn't get it called it the good ole boy network and just follow the rules. Liberalin hind site now with more life experince.. And almost always refusing chimney sweeps ...did it him self...Remer the hear and power of that fire place... it was something else as a lad

 

[alltheleaves]

we know that Americans do not have language skills. I personally never met any American that speaks fluently 2+ languages.<br/>
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Why Donald junior has black hair and all of the other kids including Barron have blond hair?<br/>
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I beg your pardon. I speak more than English and even know the word for orgasm in Chinese!

And Baron with one R has a different mom. And this level dyes hair and uses plastic under the skin. Genius.

As for (s)elections he told you before. It's rigged. A nautical expression of truth.

 

[Tomkat]

Ever heard about the Teutonic order or the House Von Anhalt (all royals have the origin in this family, ALL from south to west and from north to south! And you can not take a reference to Dan Brown (=Braun is a Ashkenazi name). Sorry to say but you should do some heavy duty digging about Karl the Great (-Charlemagne). Go to Karlsruhe (Germany) and bend in front of the pyramid.

My ancestors were born in the Teutonic Order, or better to say East Prussia, grandfather and father were freemason, and until to this day, ... they want me in, but refused already two times. And also we had Nazis in the family ... our family name has been mentioned one time in the movie "Schindler's List". I have to live with it and I keep quite about it until to this hour. Yes I am Ashkenazi but not in anyway proud of it, I am the black sheep in the family. Oh, boy when you would see the private book collection of ours you will never ever turn on your internet connection.

Basically speaking, you write a lot .... but only empty words, go and do me a favor and do better research, boy!

Tired of clowns!

"Mr Trump's heraldic arms is a near-identical copy of one registered in 1939 by Joseph Edward Davies, the New York Times reported. The copy, printed on everything from golf carts to socks, made a single small change: where the original said "Integritas", now it says "Trump"." - source

• Donald Trump using family crest granted to Mar-a-Lago's original owners as his own - with the word 'integrity' replaced by 'Trump'
• A family’s coat of arms has now become Donald Trump’s — everywhere but Britain
• Coat of Arms of Joseph E. Davies

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The double-headed eagle crest would be interesting to figure out indeed.

I think looking into the Trump family tree could be helpful. Those MacLeods and Drumpfs sound interesting.

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Trump equals Trumpf (English = pf equals ph) therefore it is TRUMPF. Common Amerikanos, your language is based on German. What is happening when you replace the T with a D? You become a Drum-p or the fourth Trumpet. Languages, dear gentlemen is one key to unlock things and we know that Americans do not have language skills. I personally never met any American that speaks fluently 2+ languages.

Why Donald junior has black hair and all of the other kids including Barron have blond hair?

People here do a quite a good job, but only copy/paste things is not the way to go. Too many topics and I have the feeling everybody seems to know it better. Get specialized in one or two topics that you like to research until early morning but become a master in one of it. Else we will get lost here. Start to build groups for certain topics.

If you don't have the original in your hand, be cautious with digital-manipulated documents.

Interesting post, thanks for this....of course, it seems like you might not
know many amerikanos, some of us are quite good with language and of course are fluent in more than one language....

Give us more dirt instead of 'youre getting varmer.....'