SH Archive Urban fire damage or was it a powerful nuclear-like explosion?

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Username: Whaduzitake
Date: 2018-12-01 20:38:33
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There is some old quote that goes something like this....none are more totally enslaved than those who incorrectly believe they are free. Wish I know who said it, I could probably look it up, but I'm too lazy to do it right now. It's an excellent insight though.
I've tried to watch some of these and conspiracy r us is the easiest to watch. Some of the other mud flood videos are so hard to understand due to their accents. They're fun to watch in small doses, but after a while I get frustrated because I can't understand them :(
I can't help but think that phenomenon is some kind of governmental/military experimentation. Didn't the CIA somehow slip LSD to some small town in France? I know it's not the same, but, just sayin'.......
 
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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2019-03-11 18:58:08
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The supposed recent reset motivation might be usury related. Most major religions decry usury as a corrupter of mankind. The shadow of the former world civilization has shown me no credible evidence of anything but harmony with a few local disputes sprinkled in the mix. I postulate that going back even further in time , the people were less and less competitive, less vile, less carnal more in tune with nature and understood Love as natural.

Some thing or someone did not feel comfortable in that culture and set themselves to take it down, using all manner of evil to accomplish their end. Usury all by its self will equate to slavery which is control, just not as apparent.
 
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Username: Drake
Date: 2019-03-26 21:00:31
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It was a space-based microwave/laser weapon. SOL740.


Look at the images of Dresden. Compare to WTC. Look at the holes in the rubble, just like Judy Wood pointed out.
 
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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2019-04-09 07:11:33
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Could you tell me which pictures the holes are located.

What I did see was humans burned to death but their clothes were still intact? Women laying dead in the streets with little damage and clothes were intact.

I am familiar with incendiary bombs, they are from 4-30 pounds. But they are always mixed with HE bombs for maximum effect. The lack of bomb craters puzzles me? None of the building walls are blown outward as from a bomb crashing through the roof? Where are the people? The trees did not burn when next to a large building fire? How about gas lines, weapons? Many more questions.
 
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Username: Andrinus
Date: 2019-05-02 10:03:39
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I have no new idea about the weapons used in the past to contribute here, but at least, my first thoughts on this painting of the wrecked Cross Church (Kreuzeskirche) in Dresden, from Canaletto 1765 was: this was 'vibrated' into pieces. No ash, no darkening, wood pieces mostly intact, only the most solid part still standing, and the wall debris crushed up into a similar granularity.. The surrounding buildings being still intact is confusing, though.

EDIT: According this source the damage we see here was caused by prussian artillery bombing in the 7-year war, around 1760, so the Canaletto painting was created 5 years later, hm. Still not convincing, imo.


Canaletto_CrossChurchDresden_1765.JPG
 
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Username: codis
Date: 2019-05-02 12:19:29
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Hmmmm, no damage to surrounding residences. The precision of artillery has suffered considerable since then, it seems.
Your linked Wackopedia source says "30 years controversy over a late-baroque or classicistic rebuild". Sounds totally plausible ... :rolleyes:
 
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Username: Andrinus
Date: 2019-05-02 14:19:09
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Agreed @codis, it's weired again :sneaky: So i thought about using vibration for the decompositions of massive structures and stumbled across this video. The cool part starts at 01:55. Think of this effect on a larger regional scale.. :eek:

 
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Username: Magnetic
Date: 2019-05-02 15:17:21
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I haven't heard of the mercury-iron amalgate before....a fine iron powder would allow mercury to encapsulate every grain of iron, prevent rust(?), and allow a fractal antenna that had the electrical/magnetic characteristics of iron and the fluid mercury would reconfigure under different strengths and shapes of the dielectric field. Interesting! Do you have any links? I am very interested in this. There are videos of mercury interacting with aluminum and it's eye opening. Here is mercury interacting with aluminum.
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Using an iron nail to make mercury oscillate Aluminum and mercury
 
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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2019-05-03 02:30:07
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The Dresden Kreuzkirche is a Lutheran church in Dresden, Germany. It is the main church and seat of the Landesbischof of the Evangelical-Lutheran Church of Saxony, and the largest church building in the Free State of Saxony. It also is home of the Dresdner Kreuzchor boys' choir. Wikipedia

Address: An der Kreuzkirche 6, 01067 Dresden, Germany


Opened: 1800
Groundbreaking: 1764
Phone: +49 351 4393920

Architects: Johann George Schmidt, Peter Parler
Architectural styles: Baroque architecture, Neoclassical architecture

Source: Startseite

Treaty of Dresden (1745), between Prussia, Saxony, and Austria, ended the second Silesian War and confirmed Silesia as Prussian. Two-thirds destroyed in the Seven Years’ War (1756–63), Dresden’s fortifications were later dismantled. In 1813 Napoleon I made the town a centre of military operations and there won his last great battle on August 26 and 27 (see Battle of Dresden)

The war ended in 1763, groundbreaking begin 1764 probably took a few years to build, so what really happened?

There probably is a good story there.
 
I understand how crazy it sounds. How could american cities be destroyed by an unknown weapon in 19th and early 20th centuries? Supposedly the technology was not there. An event of this magnitude would have been reflected in history and memory of generations. After all, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are well documented. Officially there were only two Japanese cities destroyed by nuclear weapons. But how do you know? Because that is the official version, that's how.

Yet, the below seal imprint on clay shows King Nebuchadnezzar II (ruled between 605 – 562 BCE), releasing a large constructed form, which appears similar to modern day atom bomb or nuclear bomb.

babylon_cylindrical_seal_nuclear_bomb.jpg

Let us look at the German city of Dresden. Specifically at the Bombing of Dresden in World War II. This bombing made history as one of the most heavy conventional bombing operations in the history of the world. Below are some of the details of this event:
  • four raids between 13 and 15 February 1945
  • 722 heavy bombers of the British Royal Air Force (RAF)
  • 527 heavy bombers of the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF)
  • more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices were dropped on the city of Dresden
  • the bombing and the resulting firestorm destroyed over 1,600 acres (6.5 km2) of the city centre. An estimated 22,700 to 25,000 people were killed.
  • three more USAAF air raids followed on March 2 and April 17
The bombing devastated the city of Dresden. And the photos below are the living proof of the carnage sustained by Dresden.


Let us inspect those damages from the conventional explosives and the resulting fire storm. We see heavily damaged buildings. Most roofs are gone. If the wall is collapsed we can see individual bricks or wall parts laying on the ground. If the entire building is collapsed, you can see the remnants of this collapsed building where the building once stood. In general the structures are still standing with all the catastrophic damages sustained.

UPDATE NOTE: I was wrong. Even with Dresden things were not straight - What weapon was used to bomb WW2 Dresden?

BERLIN
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Below are the damages sustained by Hiroshima and Nagasaki. As we know, the damages were caused by nuclear weapons.

HIROSHIMA and NAGASAKI
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As can be seen in the above photos, the damages are totally different. While Dresden is mostly standing, the nuclear devastation in the photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki suggests a totally different level of force applied. This is total annihilation. A few building remain somewhat standing. The remainder is crushed to the level of individual bricks. A little more damage and one could say that Hiroshima and Nagasaki just evaporated because of the barbaric force used.

Now let us compare the above where on one side we have conventional type damages to Dresden and Berlin in Germany, and Hiroshima/Nagasaki in Japan on the other, to the below cities of Tokyo, Fukuoka, Yamaguchi, Hamamatsu, Osaka. I picked a few cities. Help yourself via Google [city name] world war bombing. And look at the pictures. They all look similar. And this similarity appears to be closer to Hiroshima and Nagasaki than Dresden or Berlin.

TOKYO, FUKUOKA, YAMAGUCHI, HAMAMATSU, OSAKA
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Obviously Wikipedia explains everything by conventional bombing air raids. And while pictures of damages to Osaka, Fukuoka, Yamaguchi, Nagano, Tokyo, Hamamatsu etc., suggest use of "more powerful" weapons similar to nuclear, the official version has to stand. Otherwise we would be getting into the conspiracy theory territory, wouldn't we?

Here we approach the United States territory.

What really destroyed such cities as Seattle, Chicago, Boston, Portland, San Francicso etc.?
The conventional explanation for the below levels of destruction is the Firestorm. The Firestorm creates its own environment to include its own wind system, etc. The reason this type of destruction does not occur today is the so-called Baffle. Here is your official version. Whether Firestorm is capable of destroying brick buildings clearly depends upon multitude of construction related circumstances. I have my doubts. Look at the information below and form your own opinion.

For the full list of Great Fires you can direct your attention to the List of Town and City Fires kindly provided by Wikipedia.The Fires I was looking at, took place between 1870 - 1890. (Additionally posted San Francisco Earthquake/Fire of 1906.) Though the time span for investigation should probably be 1850 - 1910ish. The dates are historical facts provided to us, and supposedly confirmed by documents and other official sources or records. The reality could bring those dates much closer together. The history after all is written by the victors (Winston Churchill). So who knows what they wrote in there...

The Great Boston fire of 1872. Provided facts:
  • The Great Boston fire of 1872 was Boston's largest fire, and still ranks as one of the most costly fire-related property losses in American history. The conflagration began at 7:20 p.m. on November 9, 1872, in the basement of a commercial warehouse at 83-87 Summer Street. The fire was finally contained 12 hours later, after it had consumed about 65 acres (26 ha) of Boston's downtown, 776 buildings and much of the financial district, and caused $73.5 million in damage. Despite these devastation, only thirteen people died in the inferno.

The Great Chicago fire of 1871. Provided facts:
  • The Great Chicago Fire was a conflagration that burned from Sunday, October 8, to early Tuesday, October 10, 1871. The fire killed up to 300 people, destroyed roughly 3.3 square miles (9 km2) of Chicago, Illinois, and left more than 100,000 residents homeless.

The Great Seattle fire of 1889. Provided facts:
  • The Great Seattle Fire was a fire that destroyed the entire central business district of Seattle, Washington, on June 6, 1889. The fire burned for several hours, destroying 25 blocks and causing as much as $20 million in damage ($527 million in today's dollars). Not a single person died in the fire. As a result of the fire, streets in the Pioneer Square neighborhood in Seattle were elevated 22 feet (6.7 m) above the pre-fire street level and new buildings made of wood were banned. It also eventually led to the City of Seattle switching from multiple private water suppliers to a single municipal water supply.

1866 Great fire of Portland, Maine. Provided facts:
  • The great fire of Portland, Maine sometimes known as the 1866 Great fire of Portland in Maine occurred on July 4, 1866—the first Independence Day after the end of the American Civil War. Five years before the Great Chicago Fire, this was the greatest fire yet seen in an American city. It started in a boat house on Commercial Street, likely caused by a firecracker or a cigar ash. The fire spread to a lumber yard and on to a sugar house, then spread across the city, eventually burning out on Munjoy Hill in the city's east end. Two people died in the fire. Ten thousand people were made homeless and 1,800 buildings were burned to the ground. This included the federal Exchange Building by which was replaced with the custom house. Soon after the fire, poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow described his old home town: "Desolation! Desolation! Desolation! It reminds me of Pompeii, the 'sepult city'."

1906 San Francisco earthquake. Provided facts:
  • The 1906 San Francisco earthquake struck the coast of Northern California at 5:12 a.m. on April 18 with an estimated moment magnitude of 7.9 and a maximum Mercalli intensity of XI (Extreme). High intensity shaking was felt from Eureka on the North Coast to the Salinas Valley, an agricultural region to the south of the San Francisco Bay Area. Devastating fires soon broke out in the city and lasted for several days. As a result, up to 3,000 people died and over 80% of the city of San Francisco was destroyed. The events are remembered as one of the worst and deadliest earthquakes in the history of the United States. The death toll remains the greatest loss of life from a natural disaster in California's history and high in the lists of American urban disasters.

The above damages sustained by the United States cities appears to fall in between nuclear power level explosives and conventional ones. Sometimes if it walks/quacks like a duck it could be one.

While there are a lot of other cities destroyed by so-called Firestorms, there is one additional thing bringing these cities together. And that is the speed of recovery and their re-building pace. The replacement buildings were not your contemporary plywood and siding structures. The replacement were often built with Victorian and Romanesque styles in mind. Those were masterpieces of constructional and architectural genius. Whether the infrastructure of the 19th Century could support such a pace remains to be seen. We will look at some inconsistencies related to this so-called rebuilding some other day.

And some additional food for thought:
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Is it just me or does it look like neat little stacks of wood here in this photo?
 

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I have no new idea about the weapons used in the past to contribute here, but at least, my first thoughts on this painting of the wrecked Cross Church (Kreuzeskirche) in Dresden, from Canaletto 1765 was: this was 'vibrated' into pieces. No ash, no darkening, wood pieces mostly intact, only the most solid part still standing, and the wall debris crushed up into a similar granularity..
Interesting observations about vibration damage and the granularity of the stone debris at the foot of the walls.

The pile of stones reminds me of the broken stone observed by Dmitry Mylnikov in Part 6a and 6b of his series on the destruction of Tartaria:
Alexander Markhov says some images from various Mayan codices depict a weapon that used attraction and repulsion to vibrate its target to pieces at Megalithic Confrontation (Russian), (Google English translation):

The structural device of the module can be represented from the following figure (Borgia codex, l.40). It is clearly seen here that 1/8 of the device has been cut out of the standard vortex propulsive device, thereby solving the problem of changing the direction of the beam action - from repulsive to attracting. The image (top left) just demonstrates the process of "sucking" enemy soldiers to the module.
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As soon as the enemy gets into the open "beak" of the device, an automatic and instantaneous reversal of the radiation action occurs: from attractive to repulsive. It is like being subjected to a severe electric shock or the impact of a powerful pressure drop, and in electrical engineering it is like a short-circuit pulse in the line of a powerful energy source.

And the result is the defeat of the enemy, which is shown on the right side of the figure - his soldiers are simply torn to shreds.

There's also quite a bit of analysis of the ground-evidence for historic thermonuclear weapons, deliberate 'comet' strikes and strikes by unknown weapons. Here's a partial list of Google English-translated thermonuclear war articles.

The first few minutes of Futurama summarises how things seem to have been:

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History passes after Philip J. Fry falls into a cryogenics freezer (Source: Futurama, S1, Ep 1)
 
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