Who stole our history?

[push4more]

I think Earth is some kind of reservoir for life and minerals - over perhaps 4000 to100 million years... There is another member I think is possibly detailing that a lot more than me. Perhaps quite a few other people are thinking of that too. If there is already an article or a book let me know. There are thousands of salt cubic kilometers under the Mediterranean Sea. It could be that the Strait of Gibraltar was designed and installed just to prepare when to collect all that salt - maybe batteries....

It could be that the entire solar system is unique and also a reservoir. I saw around 10 years ago that our solar system 'configuration' was very very unique compared to many other solar systems. That was 10 years ago so perhaps our system is not so special but perhaps still. My guess is that Earth being a very special "water" planet in a very special solar system - special amounts and recipes are housed here.

Is there a Stolen History that has been collected for a bibliography? That would be very useful.

 

[push4more]

I think Earth is some kind of reservoir for life and minerals - over perhaps 4000 to100 million years... There is another member I think is possibly detailing that a lot more than me. Perhaps quite a few other people are thinking of that too. If there is already an article or a book let me know. There are thousands of salt cubic kilometers under the Mediterranean Sea. It could be that the Strait of Gibraltar was designed and installed just to prepare when to collect all that salt - maybe batteries....

It could be that the entire solar system is unique and also a reservoir. I saw around 10 years ago that our solar system 'configuration' was very very unique compared to many other solar systems. That was 10 years ago so perhaps our system is not so special but perhaps still. My guess is that Earth being a very special "water" planet in a very special solar system - special amounts and recipes are housed here.

Is there a Stolen History that has been collected for a bibliography? That would be very useful.

I should add "Who Stole Our History" - Perhaps many other human civilizations where wiped out just to create the perfect Earth reservoir.

 

[Nyhellenia87]

The original Gnostics were not Christians.

You've probably elaborated on this point somewhere at conjuringthepast, but if you'd care to take us through it here, or direct us to the relevant material, would appreciate. Love your stuff, btw.

I have heard this parsed out a lot of different ways. The most dominant strand seems to be, 'the original christians were gnostics'. Although, what gnosticism is understood to be, also seems to polymorph depending on who is telling the story.

If the Essenes were gnostics, and Jesus were an Essenian, I guess that would make the original Christians, Gnostics.

That dude who wrote 'Not in His Image' about the celtic holocaust and the destruction of the original gnostic church involves the elusinian mysteries in the gnostic movement.

Others conflate every and all mystery religions with the history and development of freemasonry, and also involve gnosticism in that whole chain of custodianship.

"The Thracian Chronicles" point to a much earlier christianity, wherein IEOSOS is a figure of cult worship 2000 years before Christ, and the whole thing is heavily accoutred in phrasing which is recognizable in the traditions of the Nag Hamadi Script. Maybe another red herring. Last I checked, the texts were only available in Bulgarian.

Interestingly, Dionysus is said to have come from Thrace. Dion- IESOS. Who was represented as a lion. The lion of judah? But the Elusinian Rites were exoterically cloaked in the mythology of Demeter...

I am sure I am not blowing your mind, here. You are the one that changed my brain by convincing me of the 934ad event. Before that, had written off mudflood as a psy-op...

 

[Nyhellenia87]

I'm curious to hear an account of your experience with blood magick, here or on a thread dedicated to that.

I suspect they nailed people (and animals) to crosses and trees in sacred groves (places of telluric power on the Earth's surface) and then gathered around to wait for demonic entities to possess their dead/dying bodies and speak to them. Later it became something more metaphorical.

My experience with blood magick is that it seems to have worked, but that the cosmic order really is dichotomous and bicameral, and having revoked my former master, I wander the wastes of purgatory seeking absolution without succor.

On the second bullet point: that is a really trippy thought. I cannot remember where I read this, but someone said that this was the original purpose of mummification, also. Not to get demons to speak through the dead, but to get the ancestors to speak through the dead. It caught my attention because this happens in the Rob Howard story 'The Hour of The Dragon'; in a necrohall deep in the earth is a chamber lined with apparent aeons of sarcophagi, where all the old leaders have been lain to rest. With the appropriate incantations and devices, one could wake them, singularly or as a body, for a consultation.

I am trying to read "The Origin and Evolution of Religion" by Albert Churchward right now. It was written in the 20's so everything is stated as a self-evident truth without needing to be buttressed by supporting evidence, but he wrote 'If man had never seen a ghost, there would never have been an idea of the afterlife' and that the root of all religious ideation is ancestor worship,due to the primal experience of witnessing the life after death.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

When I read the OP I couldn't take it seriously, hence my 'Mysterons' comment. By its nature, the question can only answered by opinions and theories, as we have seen. Some of those opinions and theories have suggested to me that we may be better able to address the question of who is stealing our history (present tense) rather than who stole it.

When someone claims that "Reading The Dark Earth Chronicles helped break the spell, blah, blah, blah," and then goes on to categorise it as a "Mudflood Theory," to me something is wrong somewhere. I recognise that as joint author I am more sensitive about the subject than others, but to me it's an insult. In effect it's a redefinition that brings with it all of the 'baggage' associated with the general mudflood ideology, which has nothing to do with The Dark Earth Chronicles.

It occurs to me that this is exactly what might happen when something is indexed or classified in a computer database. Let's say, for example, an Artificial Intelligence database. With this in mind I have reexamined the other opinions that have been put forward and some of them do have the stench of AI about them.

Artificial Intelligence is based upon information and it's classification, manipulation and comparison. It's not based upon knowledge and cannot employ wisdom. It can construct opinions based upon information, statistics and algorithms, but it has no concept of knowledge or wisdom.

The website I run brings its fair share of correspondence, for which we are very grateful. One contact in particular was highly excited by his discovery of a new AI 'app' that allowed him create videos from whatever text he would cut and paste into it. He sent some examples of videos he had created using text from articles on the website. The text was not reproduced in full, but analysed and a synopsis created which was then matched with what was considered to be an appropriate video clip.

The first attempt used the fairly innocent 'Welcome' page and did a reasonable job.Later attempts taking text from more complicated articles were a disaster. The synopsis produced completely changed the emphasis of whatever point was being made and in some instances produced utter garbage. The choice of video clip was also quite bizarre in some instances. The AI took the information and redefined it within its own specific parameters and algorithms.

My point is that AI now has all of the information it needs to be able to pontificate upon any part of what is classified as 'history' and anyone and his wife can now go and ask any question they so desire without having any previous knowledge of what they are asking about. In return they receive calculated opinions and related information that they can post in a forum or whatever. This doesn't make them knowledgeable, it just gives them an artificially informed opinion and these opinions are nearly always redefined and 'politically correct'. The calculated opinions and related information are always delivered in a language style that feigns authority and is embroidered with unnecessarily complex words in an overly pretentious manner that no one would ever use in normal conversation.

So, who is stealing our history? In my "opinion" it's Artificial Intelligence.

 

[AgentOrange5]

It's hard to know, when so much is hidden. Personally, I lean towards us being in the Revelation 20:7-10 year period, where Satan has been set loose & is deceiving and doing all he can to hide the 1000 year Millennial year reign of Christ. But the simulation theory is always possible.

 

[Quiahuitl]

You don't think the people who own all the publishing houses probably have the greatest degree of control over this?

Who owns all the publishing houses?

 

[Alexi]

I reckon it was either the Rothschild's or the Freemasons who originated from the line of Nimrod.

 

[LadySnow]

When I read the OP I couldn't take it seriously, hence my 'Mysterons' comment. By its nature, the question can only answered by opinions and theories, as we have seen. Some of those opinions and theories have suggested to me that we may be better able to address the question of who is stealing our history (present tense) rather than who stole it.

When someone claims that "Reading The Dark Earth Chronicles helped break the spell, blah, blah, blah," and then goes on to categorise it as a "Mudflood Theory," to me something is wrong somewhere. I recognise that as joint author I am more sensitive about the subject than others, but to me it's an insult. In effect it's a redefinition that brings with it all of the 'baggage' associated with the general mudflood ideology, which has nothing to do with The Dark Earth Chronicles.

It occurs to me that this is exactly what might happen when something is indexed or classified in a computer database. Let's say, for example, an Artificial Intelligence database. With this in mind I have reexamined the other opinions that have been put forward and some of them do have the stench of AI about them.

Artificial Intelligence is based upon information and it's classification, manipulation and comparison. It's not based upon knowledge and cannot employ wisdom. It can construct opinions based upon information, statistics and algorithms, but it has no concept of knowledge or wisdom.

The website I run brings its fair share of correspondence, for which we are very grateful. One contact in particular was highly excited by his discovery of a new AI 'app' that allowed him create videos from whatever text he would cut and paste into it. He sent some examples of videos he had created using text from articles on the website. The text was not reproduced in full, but analysed and a synopsis created which was then matched with what was considered to be an appropriate video clip.

The first attempt used the fairly innocent 'Welcome' page and did a reasonable job.Later attempts taking text from more complicated articles were a disaster. The synopsis produced completely changed the emphasis of whatever point was being made and in some instances produced utter garbage. The choice of video clip was also quite bizarre in some instances. The AI took the information and redefined it within its own specific parameters and algorithms.

My point is that AI now has all of the information it needs to be able to pontificate upon any part of what is classified as 'history' and anyone and his wife can now go and ask any question they so desire without having any previous knowledge of what they are asking about. In return they receive calculated opinions and related information that they can post in a forum or whatever. This doesn't make them knowledgeable, it just gives them an artificially informed opinion and these opinions are nearly always redefined and 'politically correct'. The calculated opinions and related information are always delivered in a language style that feigns authority and is embroidered with unnecessarily complex words in an overly pretentious manner that no one would ever use in normal conversation.

So, who is stealing our history? In my "opinion" it's Artificial Intelligence.

I have to agree here. But I think it's more sinister. With the dumbing down, not teaching kids how to think but what to think, they have no other resource available except a language AI, for gathering research of course. The problem is, this is nothing more than public schools on steroids.
Perhaps a way to target homeschoolers doing research. That's my first thought. Homes hoolers tend to be able to bypass the standard history and research alternatives. I know my kids did.

 

[jeenam]

Instead of "public schools", let's use "compulsory schooling". The reason why is because it makes no difference if kids are being taught at a public or private school. Both school types indoctrinate youth with the same garbage.

 

[Ernie]

Who were the mysterons?

 

[LadySnow]

Instead of "public schools", let's use "compulsory schooling". The reason why is because it makes no difference if kids are being taught at a public or private school. Both school types indoctrinate youth with the same garbage.

Your absolutely right. Any education system supported/funded by government/religious system will have an agenda.

 

[Tomkat]

When I read the OP I couldn't take it seriously, hence my 'Mysterons' comment. By its nature, the question can only answered by opinions and theories, as we have seen. Some of those opinions and theories have suggested to me that we may be better able to address the question of who is stealing our history (present tense) rather than who stole it.

Not to split hairs, seems like who stole/who is stealing would be the same thing....couldn't agree more that AI is basically stealing it on steroids and meth in realtime....but same perps newer techniques right?

 

[horse]

Cosmic catastrophes stole our history, wiped it from the face of the Earth and the minds of men. Cyclical disasters disrupt timelines and history starts over consolidating the old and reinterpreting the new for the benefit of the few. I applaud this website for the research and theorizing shared to make history more coherent. So, what catastrophes: comets, meteor showers, solar micro-novae, cosmic dust loading of the atmosphere, planetary alignments discharging the solar circuit, earthly manifestations of volcano, earthquake, and climate variations. Are there cycles to notice that might help mitigate or survive with more history intact? Just asking for a friend. To the mudflood'ers I ask Did Earth steal Martian water and 7 passes of venus or was it simply a really dusty part of our orbit? To the Antique Tech, consider that neither our current electronics nor any Tesla wireless sort of electronics could survive a big blast of solar current. I would mention that this wasn't the first nuclear era either. To the language guides, a thanks, for this is how we convey any history at all. Thank you all for sharing.

 

[jeenam]

Mr @horse - you may want to consider alternative theories outside of "cosmic catastrophes" for the recent destruction of our realm. Here's a well thought out theory for you to consider:

19th century nuclear war. Who and when hit?

Apocalypse of the 19th century. The true story of genocide. (YouTube video)​

Unless you can read Russian, you will need to translate the first link to English (there are numerous browser plugins that can translate the text). The second link is the accompanying YouTube video for which you should enable captions and auto-translate Russian --> English if you cannot understand Russian. The author theorizes the use of weapons as the cause of destruction. His argument rests on the fact that Cesium 137 has been detected around the small lakes in Siberia - the ones that make the land look like a cheese grater. Scientifically, we know that Cesium 137 DOES NOT occur naturally. To our modern scientific knowledge, it is ONLY a byproduct of nuclear explosions. You may be thinking "meteorites may have caused the deposition of Cesium 137". The author also traces the source of the Uranium fuel that was used for the nuclear weapons to their sources as not all Uranium is created the same and each leaves a singularly unique signature that can be used to identify its source.

If you think that theory is too far-fetched, I HIGHLY suggest you do research on Napoleon's destruction of Moscow in the early 1800's. The documented reports read just like a nuclear explosion and its aftereffects. You can DYOR and verify it for yourself. Here's a link to get you started (the video begins at a specific time with relevant information that you can verify for yourself):

Moscow fire of 1812​

Some food to consider regarding the most recent reset. I hope the hay tastes good while you chew on it.

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction​

 

[horse]

Good food for thought, thanks. Out west here we don't know anything about past nuclear exchanges. After Fuku, I started looking into the nuclear industry and found anomalies. Background radiation is higher than it should be considering natural sources. Oppenheimer said this wasn't the first Atomic Age. There was the Veda that reads just like a nuclear war. Mohenjo-Daro still has residual radiation. Miners made mention that most of the good uranium ore had already been mined. The Okla nuclear reactor in Gabon, Africa, an example of how safe and natural nuclear is according to the narrative we get - Okla

Tartary, I'm an old man and had seen their flags in old books, but I had no idea where it was until I came to this site. I did watch your videos and translated the blurb and comments as I could. You postulate that a nuclear exchange occurred in 1830 and rely on Cesium detection as proof. Problem is the short window for detection. The Geiger Mueller tube was invented in 1928, 3 half lives decay from 1830. Aerial bomb testing began 1950 depositing Cesium. Any detection of Cesium after 1950 would be considered to be from Aerial bomb testing. Any detection of Cesium between 1928 and 1950 would validate your theory but that detection was in the hands of a very few, in a lab, not in the field, and they are very secretive. I think further evidence is required.

More in the west should see your videos. Glad to hear America and Russia have been allies. Hope we can remember that in the days ahead because nuclear exchanges have global ramifications just like the cosmic catastrophes that have changed our history.

 

[Alexi]

Instead of "public schools", let's use "compulsory schooling". The reason why is because it makes no difference if kids are being taught at a public or private school. Both school types indoctrinate youth with the same garbage.

I agree, they are not indoctrinating our kids with the truth at all.

 

[buffalogirl63]

I have definitely considered that it has ever only been mean people doing horrible things, and all of the magick and ritual is just spectacle to enhance their mystique and aura of unfathomability, the stage magick being the only real sorcery, when really it's just dudes with a lot of guns and money running the block with an iron fist and opium rackets. Some wizard of Oz sht.

Interestingly, this would not make the situation anymore manageable for the layperson than if it were powerful and exotic extra-dimensional saurians endowed with bloodlust and mystical feeding habits.

We can't see past the second world war with much resolution at all, and resolution starts to drop off precipitously moving back beyond the turn of the century.

The Old World is a crazy thought. What would it take to pull off a ruse so elaborate? It seems like the only tenable answer is, a massive depopulation event.

Yes. Since it seems these resets have happened many times before..that is what it appears to be. I believe they were able to manipulate the weather even back then. Or it could have been natural disasters. (who knows) All the fires were definitely them though. There is no denying that there is a great evil in this world and we must fight back

 

[ViniB]

Yes. Since it seems these resets have happened many times before..that is what it appears to be.

How can we be so sure resets are cyclical?? Personally i see it as just another control tool/narrative to perpetuate this idea of resets over and over, and the only narrative that kind of "support" this notion is the younger dryas psy op.

 

[polymath]

Perhaps not the originators of "stolen history" but there are definitely some arms of that octopus worth discussing, at least in terms of American history.

The CCC: Civilian Conservation Corps

Smithsonian: Suppressed Archaeological Finds

École des Beaux-Arts

The Tennessee Valley Authority was good at rerouting and damming up rivers which resulted in relocation of people and losing local history and ties to the land.
Lost Towns of Pickwick (TN)