Worlds Giant Forests

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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-03-07 05:21:18
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TeachMe looking for the mainstream to affirm anything ship sailed a long time ago. I just watched a series of documentaries about about the "Neolithic farming revolution on youtube and the number of preposterous claims about the origins of farming and the simultaneous appearance of ancient stone monuments was the biggest load of bull:poop: Ive tried to process in years. The mainstream doesn't want truth because they are the ones keeping the false reality construct in our heads. Its only in our heads nowhere else. We dont need them to affirm what is right there for us to observe. They taught you to believe them and you cant verify anything they say ,because you dont have a DNA test lab and you dont have a space platform and you dont have an electron spectrometer or whatever< all bull:poop: , You can see with your own five senses what is actually there, Nobody is going to shout anything from the rooftops because the rooftops have snipers on them to keep that from happening ? ? but truth sets you free snipers not withstanding?
 
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Username: WarningGuy
Date: 2020-03-07 05:47:12
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Why also are humans the only animal on this planet that kills others animals for fun
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-03-07 05:59:50
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not about trees but we aren't. have you ever seen a dog chase a squirrel? you only believe that because its its a cultural meme about humans are bad its pc to adopt guilt you didnt earn . We aren't the only species that kills for fun, lust, dominance, practice, whatever lots of animals do that . Sometimes animals go crazy and kill because they went nuts,just like people.
 
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Username: Starman
Date: 2020-03-07 06:00:14
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Speaking of a giant tree at the north pole, Dave Talbott and the folks at Thunderbolts/Electric Universe have a theory that this tree or beanstalk or yggdrasil was actually a plasma connection in a polar alignment with other planets. This is when Saturn ruled the skies and there was a conjunction of planets in a type of shishkabob alignment. There's lots more background to this story that I won't get into here. It's all based on cross cultural interpretations of ancient myths.

A compelling video was made about this: "Symbols of an Alien Sky" I cried the first time I watched it. Something about it really resonates with me - it was my first intro to the followers of Velikovsky, a comfortable rabbit hole I have spent years exploring.

 
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Username: WarningGuy
Date: 2020-03-07 06:07:21
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I know this is off topic but Starman have you heard of this theory ?

A Timeless Age in a Purple Haze | Saturn Death Cult
 
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Username: Starman
Date: 2020-03-07 06:15:04
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Yeah, familiar with it, by my friend Troy from New Zealand/UK. I actually stumbled on him and his interviews with Red Ice before I became aware of Thunderbolts. I urged Troy to present at a EU conference, but he thought he wouldn't be well received. Saturn has both a dark side and an enlightened side. He ate his children as he died, but he also ruled for a long time in golden beneficience.
 
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Username: Palaiolagash
Date: 2020-03-07 21:48:38
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If not hungry bored cats will torture a mouse for ages before killing it just as a way to kill time.

Ferrets will attack, subdue, and in some extreme cases, kill animals larger than themselves for sport.

These are examples I have observed within the last couple years.

One could argue that as pets these animals were not in their natural habitat, but I would contend that humans are not in theirs, either.
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-03-07 22:27:19
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I have I think there were trees because they are petrified , as to the Saturn death cult that is real and the bible talks a lot about it and the celestial bodies and their influence on life on the world inhabitants and trees many many tree references. and the trees are/were connected to heaven and the tree of life exists somewhere. the Book of Enoch says it was moved .

Sumerian King List
After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridu.
In Eridu, Alulim became king; he ruled for 28,800 years.
Alalgar ruled for 36,000 years.
Two kings; they ruled for 64800 years.

Five cities; eight kings ruled for 385,200sic years.
Then the Flood swept over.
After the Flood had swept over, and the kingship had descended from heaven, the kingship was in Kiš.


ancient records say the trees were kings and human kings represent trees, Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil , Tree of Life, Sumerian texts call Enki great tree with its feet in the abzu< an abyss of water. I learned from this and the bible that Kingship is lowered from heaven and when that happens it comes with new sun new sky new life new everything.ancient records attest this happening twice and I believe its soon going to happen again.
Rev 21
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
O wow,so I find this awesome video and so I say to watch this ,can you tell the recent wood from the petrified wood!!! ha perfect example

and this one
 
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Username: esgee1
Date: 2020-03-10 20:02:33
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Yes, Mudfossil University. Roger is his name. Basically the transition metals in blood and bodily fluids are what creates various rocks and stones and gems. He postulates that some opals used to be hearts. He has interesting ideas.
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-03-10 20:29:13
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its a mixed bag with Roger where I question his hypothesis is is he states that ALL fossils are from giant complex creatures and I think there were those but they had to live in an environment that consisted of a whole complete eco system so we will find trees, seeds,fruit and different species of plants so on so forth. I do think that gold and precious gems and so forth are derived from the former order of things. I often wondered why the bible has reference to a specific type of gold called "Gold of Ophir" the highest quality of gold.
Isaiah 13:12
I will make people more rare than fine gold, even a person than the pure gold of Ophir.
and so forth
 
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Username: esgee1
Date: 2020-03-10 20:43:56
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I agree that not ALL fossils are from giant complex creatures. But, some could be. Obviously a lot of stone and rock is created from "earthly" processes like volcanoes for example. I postulate there's multiple ways to create many of the rocks and gems we find on Earth, with "mudfossils" being one of them.
 
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Username: Myrrinda
Date: 2020-03-10 20:59:22
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We have a few nice stones. One day I was cutting some fruits (kiwis) and they were already a little old, and you could see the sugar crystallized (if you know what I mean) that made me wonder. And then a certain type of tomato. Then it came to me. The hollow ones with the beautiful interior (I mean the precious stones), you can't unsee it. I also think about mushrooms and how some of them look like, morels I think they are called (german Morcheln). I got convinced in my own kitchen and then I saw the videos with the bones and large animals and it all made sense, EVERYTHING was alive once. Now also red bell peppers come to mind, chilis, slice them up you get a shape that can also be seen in these really large geodes that are found, and inside the sparkling just like the sugar/whatever it is in the vegetables and fruit, frozen in time so to speak.
 
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Username: Reichenbach
Date: 2020-07-11 19:45:28
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this is where i learned of the silicon forests and the giant quarry [ Planet Earth ] ... --Daniel had examined one of the trees [ what is left over of it ] and found that it contained Iron ... I think there are two things going on here ... the metals are created inside the Silicon trees as they grow ... the Star Fortresses with their ether / aether harnessing were also refining/ growing metals [ ??? ] ... what is common to Silicon / Quartz and Carbon is that they are in the same column as Lead ... all Radioactive Elements decay into Lead ... Radiant Energy could just be the good old Radioactive Energy ... Silicon ad Carbon may be emitters and absorbers of a lower level of Radioactive Energy ... this energy also could be what transmutes metals ...
 
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Username: wild heretic
Date: 2020-07-12 11:08:17
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They are probably pre flood trees id guess. Dont forget the zoroastrian creation story has a massive amount of water under the earth that went up to the halfway mark of the earth egg. So maybe the giant trees took from that.
Dolphins and chimps have been caught doing the same. And dogs and cats do it all the time right now. Like dogs and cats, a few humans do it out of something genetically still there from hunter gatherer times probably. I think its a positive thing as a fail safe if civilisation collapses.
 
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Username: EyesOpenToTr
Date: 2020-07-14 08:23:43
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We were "hijacked" per say. This is an inverted REEL-ity construct, a "copy" of our Terra, not this duality mind control entrapment system "U-rf".

We are going back home ... The war was won, the game is just playing itself out. If you feel as if you do not belong here, well, that is your Intuition and knowing that it isn't our place of origin.

Rock is petrified wood, pretty much.
 
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Username: Randolph C
Date: 2020-07-14 21:34:26
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Not hard at all. Make a thin section, put it under a conventional microscope, look if the structures you see correspond to those which can be expected in a tree (angiosperm, conifer, gingko, cycas, whatever). If they do, it is a tree. If they don't, it's just a piece of rock.

If there is something to this theory of giant silica-based trees, one would of course not expect to see structures similar to anything known today. One would however expect to see structures that clearly discern them from common rocks and at least suggest that they are organic. So has anybody done that kind of investigation and provided any kind of proof or even the slightest evidence that the mineral composition and internal structure of any of these "giant tree" structures differ from conventional basalt, as wee see it formed today by any random volcanic eruption on Hawaii? Is there any study, be it as fringe and "grey-literature" as it can possibly be? I am seriously interested and ready to revise my opinion on the subject as soon as any evidence is provided.

Or is there just a bunch of people on youtube pointing out very gross and random similarities of geological structures to tree stumps, people who pontentially try to derail us from much more serious questions which are actually worth investigating? Why do they expect a life-form based on silica instead of carbon as the main component to resemble anything that we know today or from the fossil record? Where are the saplings of these "trees"? They must have been gigantic themselves. How did they supposedly reproduce?

And I do not accept the argument "all rocks were once living things". Rocks are Rocks. Fossils are fossils. Embedded in rocks. Or I could just postulate that the moon is made out of green cheese. Difference here: I can't fly to the moon and prove or disprove my hypothesis. Anyone can analyze the "giant trees", however, because they are aparently all over the place. So my theory that the moon is made of green cheese holds more credibility, because it can not be disproven.

So is there any evidence that these structures differ from other anorganic geological structures in composition, texture, chemism, anything?
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-07-15 13:05:48
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For me the problem with these giant looking tee stump mesa's is they don't just look a little bit like tree stumps, they look exactly like tree stumps, and that combined with the rather hard to swallow notion of missing dirt hundreds of feed deep all around them make it very hard to believe that some of these are just accidents of nature.
Rock Formations - Jugurtha Tableland, Tunesia

Now it's been a while be I did nose around in this topic a little bit a while back. I'm not sure why some think it's necessary to say these were silica based tree's, but I do recall seeing images where comparisons are made between what appears to giant plant cells in rock stump formations. I am pretty sure there's some work that's been done with regard to making comparisons but I have no idea of the competency.

All I can add is that scale is not the issue as one might imagine, not if we assume a planet 1/4 present size because gravity, or what we call gravity, changes based on a number of possible variables. Gravity isn't even dependent on mass, not really, so we can't count on gravity being a prohibition on scale. Not in my mind anyways and so I think there are a number of known or suspect variables that could account for dramatically altered gravitational fields. We do have fossil's of gigantic plants, insects, and animals which we know did exist. About the only other alternative explanation which might be worth considering is some sort of crystallization process causing these formations to sprout.

Hmm...answer might just lie in changing gravitational fields due to the intrinsic relative weight differentials and or ability of different materials to be affected by a changed gravitational field along with whether or not the surrounding material was tied to a larger anchored mass.
 
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Username: JWW427
Date: 2020-07-15 13:34:56
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Ive read about a researcher who said gravity is produced by the sun, which is an electromagnetic sphere that draws its energy from higher dimensions, which is why some stars disappear on occasion instead of slowly burning out––they just move on up to higher densities. He also said the Earth is really 12 billion years old, not 4.5.
If this is so, I don't know why the PTB would change all that science data. To keep our real past secret? Probably.
Who knows what changes in air density, radiation, and gravity have occurred if that timeline is correct?
Giant trees, giant animals, huge whales, giants.
One wonders how big marijuana plants grew back in Pangea?
Chevys?

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Username: Randolph C
Date: 2020-07-15 13:41:19
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Fair points. I have no problem with the possible existence of trees much larger than the ones we have today. We know other fossil organisms - the largest dinosaurs, the huge arthropods of the Carboniferous etc. - that would definitely not work under the current conditions. Some of these "giant tree" things indeed have an uncanny resemblance to actual fossil trees, others not so much, and ordinary rocks have none at all, they are just rocks, so still where is the evidence...

I have taken a closer look at the literature, this is a good starting reference

Geology of Devils Tower National Monument, Wyoming

but I also went through some technical papers hidden behind the usual pay wall (i.e. difficult to access for the average Joe without affiliation to a University or Museum or resorting to technically illegal activity ;))

The standard explanation for Devil's Tower is that it is just made up of basically rock pillars which originated due to subsurface volcanic activity, the lava intruding in the overlying sedimentary layers and cooling there. So the stuff cooled and formed exactly hexagonal patterns, because that is the easiest way to relief tension during the cooling process (with 120° angles excatly). I have dug out some papers on Devil's tower columns/jointing, and interestingly neither are the rock columns all exactly hexagonal (quite to the opposite, there are also pentagonal and even tetragonal structures), and there is also not only the classic "columns", but there appear actually three different systems of jointing. The sediments around Devil's Tower (largely Mesozoic, including Morrison Formation of dinosaur fame) are just ordinary marine and terrestrial sediments, sandstones, clays, siltstones, marls. The entire structure appears to have weathered out of these, as the surrounding sediment is much softer and more prone to weathering than the igneous "core" which forms the Devil's Tower proper. So the entire structure has weathered out just like a real fossil tree stump would weather out. It would indeed look exactly the same... interesting.

The hexagonal pattern (which, as said above, isn't exactly hexagonal at all, somewhat calling the standard hypothesis into question) is usually found in basalts. Devil's Tower is however made of phonolithe, a volcanic rock largely made of feldspar and pyroxene. In the case of Devil's Tower additional minerals, such as apatite, magnetite, calcite, minerals of the zeolite group etc. were identified.

None of these minerals, except apatite (of which bones and teeth are made) and calcite (of which most mollusk shells, coral skeletons etc. are made) are usually associated with any type of true fossils, particularly not feldspars or pyroxenes and particularly not plant fossils.

So from mineralogical composition there is no evidence of the thing being a fossil. Its structure is odd, however, and the standard explanation has its difficulties as well. People seem still to be unsure whether it is a "volcanic neck" or a laccolith. The Kiowa Indians apparently call it the "Tree Rock" in their legends.

First Stories - Devils Tower National Monument (U.S. National Park Service)

Verdict for the time being: Official geology has severe difficulties explaining the exact origin of this structure. Geological and mineralogical composition do not favour it being a fossil. The question what it really is remains open to debate.
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-07-15 14:23:14
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Ok but let's consider pay walls for a moment and see them through the eye of a policeman to gain another another perspective, such as they may be potential sites for infection, that is to say, spreading disinformation, falsifications, and modified data. How do we know who runs and owns the pay wall, who has access to what information? These are specialized, compartmentalized, and restricted information interdiction programs generally operated by corporations beholding to nobody. Now can we trust that information? Do you trust Bill Gates, George Sorro's, ect, ect, ect. See you can't gain access to the information because unless the system can reach you, affect your career, then it doesn't allow access. It's a wholly criminal operation in my opinion and while charging money for access may be necessary for administrative reasons, this denial of access because they can't black ball you or screw with you, well that's obviously about as criminal and unethical as it gets. Yet having to use these criminal operated systems is also necessary for academic stardom, so now they also know what you're reading, what direction you're likely to take, and on and on. I think we have some issues about the overall reliability and integrity of that method of information dissemination.

So no we can not trust information which comes from a privatized source that locks the public out, not to mention that most of the information was actually financed by the public in the first place, thereby indicting the system as a virtual knowledge based extortion enterprise.

In short, we really don't know whose behind paywalls but their ethics stink: We know that much.
Just thought I'd toss in my thoughts on paywalls.
 
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