Young Earth Theorist Finds Noah's DNA

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I want to start off by saying that I am not a member of any organized religion, probably due to being raised Catholic. However, I do spend quite a bit of time reading the Bible as well as other sacred texts. As most everyone on this forum probably does. And I have become more sure of the existence of Good and Evil and a higher power as I become older and wiser. I am a creationist in that I believe that humans were manipulated into existence genetically. But I am not a Creationist going by the letter of the Bible to tell the whole human story. I really like to look at many sides to every story.

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About three years ago I discovered a scientist named Dr Nathaniel Jeanson. I had been doing some DNA research related to the Lost Tribes of Israel and Black Hebrews. Here's a link to a great researcher that covers that topic, and his main series of aricles on the Lost Tribes:

The not-so-lost Tribes of Israel (Part 1) - Condir

I was very interested in many of his articles and went on a search for more DNA information. The Human Genome Project had inspired several different collecting drives of DNA throughout the world and many scientists were assessing the results. That's when I found Dr. Jeanson. He was looking at DNA research in a different way than mainstream science. He has a PhD in cell and developmental biology from Harvard Medical School. He felt he needed the most acceptable credentials to go with his bold theories. But he has a slight hipster look going with his goatee, soul patch and what he calls a mohawk.

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He is a hard core Christian Creationist, working for Answers In Genesis, the folks that built the full size Noah's Ark down in Kentucky. They are all pretty certain that the earth is only 6000ish years old. And now they've got themselves a Harvard doctor to try and prove it! They are fully invested in the biblical timeline of the flood, the ark full of animals, and all of humanity descending from the eight members of Noah's family.


REPLACING DARWIN: THE NEW ORIGIN OF SPECIES

His book that I discovered was called "Replacing Darwin: The New Origin of Species." There is a video series on YT where he lays out his ideas with diagrams and pictures, which makes it easier to understand. He's pretty easy to listen to, as well. I want to be clear that I did not read the book, just watched the complete video series. Very intriguing.


View: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1v9pqs4w1mwrGlCET76Rs99Fx0EfJXE4&si=Ibr1EvqtjzgYoHoT


So you might be asking what are these bold ideas?

In Replacing Darwin he uses the female mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and nuclear DNA research available at the time to trace back to Noah's wife and daughter-in-laws. He talks about rapid evolution that created individual species from a parent 'kind' of each animal that was on the Ark. He focuses on the genetic errors and mutations that consistently occur in DNA passed from parent to child and counts these mutations from generation to generation. He uses this count to dramatically shorten the timeline of the established scientific DNA family tree. By compressing the branches of the tree from over 100,000 years to 6000 years he is able to match up the branches with the known migrations of humans over the last 6000 years. He is able to show the split between the descendants of Shem, Ham and Japheth. He uses the mtDNA to trace back to the four women on the ark. But he doesn't quite pin down the location of Noah on the family tree. Yet.

These top two images are mtDNA charts and the bottom three are variations of DNA haplogroup charts. These are just general examples, not all by Jeanson, so you have an image of what I'm refering too. He goes into a lot of detail in the videos and has plenty of visual aids.

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MY THOUGHTS

I pondered all this information. He was pretty convincing in his presentations and it was at least possible that he was correct. His mtDNA chart supported something that I had read by Condir (the Black Hebrew articles). This was that Canaan was the son of incest between Ham and Noah's wife, as supported by the Book of Jubilees. This finally explains the way Canaan is singled out for his particular curse. To my eye, the mtDNA chart shows four female lines with descendants. I believe they are the wives of Shem, Ham, Japheth and Noah's wife. I contacted Dr. Jeanson three years ago to ask him about this and he said that Noah's wife kept having children with Noah after the flood. He didn't care to hear about possible incest in the family of Noah, the Father of Mankind After the Flood.

I also thought about the Young Earth ideas he talked about. I had not yet discovered stolen history in general and this forum in particular, so I didn't have an understanding of the vastness of the lies required to create the false narrative timeline. But from what I did think I knew, this world isn't only 6000 years old. The Young Earthers are certain that it is and that anything that appears older was put there by God. I could maybe agree that the people were only 6000 years old, but not the Earth.


TRACED: HUMAN DNA'S BIG SUPRISE

Three years have passed since I watched the Replacing Darwin videos. I have had my entire understanding of human history decimated in the mean time. I've always known that we were being lied to about a lot of things. Some people might call me a conspiracy theorist for the last 30 years. But I really had no idea how bad it was until a couple years ago.

I've been researching the pre-invasion history of the Americas lately and saw that Dr. Jeanson had a new video series out with some Native American information. He has written another book called "Traced: Human DNA's Big Suprise."


View: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1v9pqs4w1mzxnSlpFs-QmE-cAFm12398&si=M3Pl058yo2BwQZs-


In Traced he uses the male Y chromosome DNA lines to look for Noah, the Tower of Babel and the 70 patriarchs of the Bible, among other things. For the Y chromosome he calculates an average of three mutations per generation from father to son. With this, he again shortens the genetic tree to about 6000 years and it makes even more sense than before. He looks at various populations of people around the world like Chinese, Roman, Indian, Native Americans and more. Using historical data and language migration he is able to support his shortened genetic timeline. Apparently the various DNA testing companies like 23andme and Ancestry had released their information to the public since his previous book. He used this new resource in his search for Noah, which resulted in Traced. This time he finds Noah and his sons.

He is especially interested in the true history of the Americas. He's helping different tribal members from all over get their Y chromosome DNA tested and gathering oral histories and folklore of these people to try and reconstruct their past. He keeps putting out addtional videos with new information he gains or researches.


View: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1v9pqs4w1mzCLWAyzc3Kz_vw0RQPmqa_&si=ma8XnRuoSHt15JM0


I especially enjoyed his interpretation of the migration of the Lenni-Lenape tribe, who we know as the Delaware. He uses a tribal history called the Red Record in conjunction with the DNA charts, known history and language families to recreate it. I really feel like he is on to something with the shortened genitic timeline. The "scientists" have it so stretched out it doesn't make the same sense.


MY THOUGHTS

The result of these ponderings of mine is that Dr. Jeanson is correct in shortening the timeline for human DNA history for the group of people he is studying. Meaning the modern humans that emerged after the genetic bottleneck of the flood. This Earth is not 6000 years Young, just the human tribe descended from Noah. He doesn't really address the Neanderthals or Denisovans (or giants). But the data really supports what he is saying about the people he's talking about, meaning us.

After the flood there was a group of survivors (Noah's group) that were talked to by a being called Yahweh and that these are who modern humans are descended from. Most of the descendants of the sons mixed with each other and other types of people that survived the flood and here we are. One specific line claims that they were chosen by Yahweh as the best and that their bloodline remained pure. They became known as the Hebrews or Israelites. They continued to worship Yahweh and feel special and set apart. Today they supposedly live in Israel, but their real blood is in West Africa and Black Americans.

Watch it all for yourselves. I have tried to give enough information to represent his ideas. But the ideas are so much more comprehensible when you watch the videos.
 
After the flood there was a group of survivors (Noah's group) that were talked to by a being called Yahweh and that these are who modern humans are descended from. Most of the descendants of the sons mixed with each other and other types of people that survived the flood and here we are. One specific line claims that they were chosen by Yahweh as the best and that their bloodline remained pure. They became known as the Hebrews or Israelites. They continued to worship Yahweh and feel special and set apart. Today they supposedly live in Israel, but their real blood is in West Africa and Black Americans.

Well, blow me down, after all of that supposition, assumption, Bayesian gymnastics and fantasy it all comes out to exactly the same narrative that we've been force fed for centuries. What are the chances of that?
 
One specific line claims that they were chosen by Yahweh as the best and that their bloodline remained pure. They became known as the Hebrews or Israelites.

Are you also including Ismael's bloodline, which is Hebrew according to the bible?
 
Are you also including Ismael's bloodline, which is Hebrew according to the bible?

Good point (y) It's always surprised me just how close 'Ismael' / 'Ishmael' is to 'Israel' and there are supposed to have been 12 Tribes of Ishmael just as there were 12 Tribes of Israel, even though one is a person and the other a geographical area. It's almost as if a typo, or even a speech impediment, took place at some point and caused a duplication.
 
This is fascinating. Thanks for sharing this. I suppose it came at a very opportune time for me. I just purchased the 1844 edition of World History with St Paul's Computation. This book covers an exact time line stating that the earth was formed on the year of 4004 bc. It has exact dates of birth and death of most Bible figures, including Noah. The Biblical time line is also shown with other world events that were occurring at the time.
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Noah lived on a radioactive thermal hostspring thus his dna was mutated . you can still swim in it if you are brave
 
Good point (y) It's always surprised me just how close 'Ismael' / 'Ishmael' is to 'Israel' and there are supposed to have been 12 Tribes of Ishmael just as there were 12 Tribes of Israel, even though one is a person and the other a geographical area. It's almost as if a typo, or even a speech impediment, took place at some point and caused a duplication.
Actually Israel is never mentioned as a geographical location in the bible. Israel = Jacob.
 
Good point (y) It's always surprised me just how close 'Ismael' / 'Ishmael' is to 'Israel' and there are supposed to have been 12 Tribes of Ishmael just as there were 12 Tribes of Israel, even though one is a person and the other a geographical area. It's almost as if a typo, or even a speech impediment, took place at some point and caused a duplication.

Just thinking here ....

Israel - Is (Isis) Ra (Sun God) El (Original God)

Ishmael - Ish (Ishtar) Ma (Malcam aka Molech) El (Original God)

Ismael - Is (Isis) Ma (Malcam aka Molech) El (Original God)

The etymology of names can be a phenomenal pursuit of inquiry, but don't know if I am creating red herrings for myself in doing so!

TH
 
Just thinking here ....

Israel - Is (Isis) Ra (Sun God) El (Original God)

Ishmael - Ish (Ishtar) Ma (Malcam aka Molech) El (Original God)

Ismael - Is (Isis) Ma (Malcam aka Molech) El (Original God)

The etymology of names can be a phenomenal pursuit of inquiry, but don't know if I am creating red herrings for myself in doing so!

TH

I think they're all valid possibilities, but like similar etymological deconstructions, we will probably never know what the original creators of the names had in mind ...if anything. However, what I will go out on a limb and say is that these names, like the Abrahamic religions themselves, are composites of pre-existing Pagan elements, so your observations are certainly not red, or any other shade, of herrings imo.

Actually Israel is never mentioned as a geographical location in the bible. Israel = Jacob.

But it's the 'Promised Land', not the 'Promised Person' isn't it? :unsure:
 
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