SH Archive 2017 Urban fires in California. Could DEW weapons be the true cause?

[Magnetic]

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Username: Magnetic
Date: 2018-11-13 23:29:38
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Hmm...

The burning bridge is also due to magnetic induction heating of the steel beams which then catch any combustible material nearby on fire.

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Sure, the leaves are off the trees. But if these houses are literally leveled from fire, how did these trees remain standing? This looks like the aftermath of 9/11 or Hiroshima, not a seasonal wildfire.


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Yet another photo of liquid aluminum. It melts at 1220 deg. Fahrenheit, by the way. The last time I saw liquid metal like this was (other "wildfires" not included) 9/11. Note the green trees in the background, as somehow a fire that burns over 1000 deg. leaves anything behind made of carbon.

At this point there are three hypothesis that I have:

1. All of these photos are 100% fabricated by mainstream media to make the fire look a lot worse than it actually is (global warming propaganda)

2. This fire was legitimate, but has been modified through geoengineering to be hotter and spread quicker than a regular fire

3. Straight up D.E.W. to help nudge Agenda 2030 ever closer.

-Some more thoughts on this concept:

-Is this technology some kind of test for a Project Bluebeam-type event? Holographic projections of an alien invasion are gonna need a little oomph to really sell to the public. Steel melting fire beams coming from the sky would certainly sell the sizzle, pardon the pun.

Some might also call this the wrath of a vengeful God. I don't really go for the whole Abrahamic monotheist thing personally, but the idea of a God or deity performing some sort of karmic retaliation for the treatment of the Earth could fit nicely into someone's narrative.

The real question is - - at what point do more people (normies, if you will) start giving a critical eye to events like this? It is the folly of humankind to assume that people in positions of power have humanity's best interest in mind. The average person would never dream of using D.E.W. weapons on innocent people, so it must mean that no one else would use this technology in such a shamelessly evil way. A world of cynics like myself is likely too extreme to be viable, but it seems modern society completely lacks skepticism that isn't hand-fed to them by talking heads or verified users on social media.

That shiny metal you see is melted steel from the engine block. Magnetic Induction heating works very efficiently with blocks of steel whereas in aluminum the heat is dispersed throughout the metal and therefore melts less easily but can melt if enough energy is supplied, while in steel in the engine block the surface is heated to an extreme amount and melts. As the process continues the next layer is melted and so on. One look at the engine would show surface degradation and loss of material with the molten material leading down to the lowest point in topography(looking for revealing photos of engines). If any motors are found they would indicate this process. The sheet metal instead of melting becomes hot and oxidizes which causes rust. Almost all of the vehicles show extreme rust in the sheet metal of the cars. Imagine a weapon deployed against a foreign army using MIH...all the ferrous metal components would heat up and their function would be destroyed and the ordinance would be detonated: the enemies own weapons would destroy itself!

The burning bridge is also due to magnetic induction heating of the steel beams which then catch any combustible material nearby on fire.

That shiny metal you see is melted steel from the engine block. Magnetic Induction heating works very efficiently with blocks of steel whereas in aluminum the heat is dispersed throughout the metal and therefore melts less easily but can melt if enough energy is supplied, while in steel in the engine block the surface is heated to an extreme amount and melts. As the process continues the next layer is melted and so on. One look at the engine would show surface degradation and loss of material with the molten material leading down to the lowest point in topography(looking for revealing photos of engines). If any motors are found they would indicate this process. The sheet metal instead of melting becomes hot and oxidizes which causes rust. Almost all of the vehicles show extreme rust in the sheet metal of the cars. Imagine a weapon deployed against a foreign army using MIH...all the ferrous metal components would heat up and their function would be destroyed and the ordinance would be detonated: the enemies own weapons would destroy itself!

Found an eye witness account from this video in the comment section

Kathryn Johnson7 hours ago
Hey MB...we just got home from helping to evacuate animals in LA...got the call out Friday night...as I mentioned we were staging the horse trailers before we set up the canyon and I saw about a dozen small blue flames in a burned out home...I was stopped before I could get close to take any pics...we had escorts the whole time which was a law enforcement vehicle in front then all of us after that then a firetruck pulling up the rear...we were never left alone and never saw another burned out home with blue flames, however, at one time while we were coming down a very curvy road with fire on both sides we saw guardrails burning with blue flames...small blue flames...it was impossible to take pics while navigating a huge 4door dully truck with a 14 slot horsetrailer full of animals down the curvy canyon roads...we had to keep our eyes open and keep the rigs going there was just so much wind and smoke and embers flying everywhere...we got split up Saturday afternoon but we still had escorts and still had no time to snap pics...this was the most dangerous rescue evacuation we have ever done in our 10 years of doing this...the horror of this devastation will be stuck in our memories for the rest of our lives...homes burned to the ground and yet the foliage wasnt touched...there was a road where cars were left abandoned by drivers escaping the fires... all the cars that we passed had a pool of metal under the engine compartment where the engines had melted but the frames were somewhat intack...on some other guardrails there were flames shooting out the top of some of them...I would say about 4 feet high the flames were and looked to be under pressure...not high pressure but enough to see the flames were shooting upwards and not bothered by the wind...anyway, have to get some rest...we are heading up north tomorrow to help move animals from one safe place to another then we come home and may get another call out for LA...all our prayers go out to everyone affected by these fires and to the fire crews who have had horrible times fighting these fires...everyone be safe!!!
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Username: Ice Nine
Date: 2018-11-15 14:02:46
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Wow is this interesting and frightening on a couple of levels. If things aren't DISTURBING enough all ready. Either the natural gas is contributing to some fires or they are a scapegoat for greater machinations. Because whatever the hell these fires are, they aren't natural occurrences.

In the above post "small blue flames" that so caught my eye, blue flames, natural gas? natural gas burns hot, hot enough to melt aluminum engine parts.
LPG Gas Blog Blue Flames

and jeez remember in September?!
LAWRENCE, Mass. -- A Massachusetts utility company says it will "work tirelessly to restore service" after a series of gas explosions an official described as "Armageddon" killed a teenager, injured at least 25 other people and ignited fires in at least 39 homes in three communities north of Boston.Sep 14, 2018

And I read this this morning on the local new site

PG&E stock and bonds hammered on concern over California utility’s wildfire liability excuse me?!? I pulled out a couple of pertinent paragraphs from this article.

Utility’s equipment may be the cause, PG&E says

PG&E Corp. shares fell another 22% on Wednesday to bring their week-to-date losses to 36%, after the utility said its insurance may not cover the possible losses from the worst wildfire in California history.

“While the cause of the Camp Fire is still under investigation, if the Utility’s equipment is determined to be the cause, the Utility could be subject to significant liability in excess of insurance coverage that would be expected to have a material impact on PG&E Corporation’s and the Utility’s financial condition, results of operations, liquidity, and cash flows,” the company said in the filing.

PG&E said it notified the California Public Utilities Commission of the failure of some of its equipment in an electric incident report on Nov. 8. The report said the failure began at about 0615 hours. The fire is reported to have started at 6.33 a.m., according to Cal Fire.

PG&E is already facing liabilities from wildfires that raged in 2017, destroying more than 245,000 acres. In its most recent earnings report, the company said it was guiding for $1.65 billion to $1.82 billion in after-tax costs related to 14 of the 2017 fires, net of insurance and other costs. State investigators have linked PG&E’s equipment to about 17 of the 2017 fires, according to a regulatory filing from Nov. 5.

And now let me tell you something that is really creeping me out. Our local Power company is sending people around to check our sewer lines to make sure we don't have natural gas leaking into them at some point. Crews have been doing work around town digging shit up for water lines and power lines and basically they don't know if they might have accidentally breached a sewer line and /or gas line. (WTF) They have already checked us out, two guys spent a couple of hours running a camera through our sewer line. They said everything looked fine to them, but the data will be sent to the Power co. for them to scrutinize.

Holy shit! if you hear of a small town in Washington State blowing up, well.....it's been nice knowing you folks.

Although I don't think for a minute this does anything to explain "the big picture" I did find it very interesting! a Natural Gas false flag operation perhaps.

 

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Username: Casimir
Date: 2018-11-15 15:16:47
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I'm having trouble believing the Santa Ana winds are responsible for this. Are they really blowing over the mountain range and "fanning the flames" or is this more a geological convenience?

 

[trismegistus]

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Username: trismegistus
Date: 2018-11-15 16:34:55
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As if there weren't already enough creepy wrinkles to this story...here comes this report.

According to Robert Dodge - a physician and president of Physicians for Social Responsibility Los Angeles, highly toxic materials embedded in SSFL's soil and vegetation may have been spewed into the air by the Woolsey fire.


"We know what substances are on the site and how hazardous they are. We’re talking about incredibly dangerous radionuclides and toxic chemicals such a trichloroethylene, perchlorate, dioxins and heavy metals," said Dodge, adding: "These toxic materials are in SSFL’s soil and vegetation, and when it burns and becomes airborne in smoke and ash, there is real possibility of heightened exposure for area residents."

This site has a history of accidents involving people in the community coming down with different cancers

The fires are already scary enough, throw this into the mix and you've got the recipe for an even more serious disaster.

The conspiratorial mind in me is already thinking insurance scam might be involved - - whatever issues this lab has will likely cost a lot of time and money CA doesn't have. Destroy it in the fire, collect the insurance money, profit.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-11-15 19:27:37
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“While the cause of the Camp Fire is still under investigation, if the Utility’s equipment is determined to be the cause, the Utility could be subject to significant liability in excess of insurance coverage that would be expected to have a material impact on PG&E Corporation’s and the Utility’s financial condition, results of operations, liquidity, and cash flows,” the company said in the filing.

Looks like they found a scapegoat. How many gas lines are next to those guard rails? How is the damage directed, specific, pinpointed, not random, scattered like it would be with shifting winds? Gas company may have issues but they didn't cause this. Be safe out there.

 

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Username: Ice Nine
Date: 2018-11-15 20:18:38
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Looks like they found a scapegoat. How many gas lines are next to those guard rails? How is the damage directed, specific, pinpointed, not random, scattered like it would be with shifting winds? Gas company may have issues but they didn't cause this. Be safe out there.

That's what I think, they are a scapegoat for greater machinations especially the more we are learning about other things going on in that fire zone.
It's getting damn scary, anybody that sees the destruction and locations has to start wondering if something isn't going on. but all they will admit is "yeah hot fires", I think even I would remember wild fires where car engines melted and leaves on trees right next to them still have leaves on them.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-11-15 21:04:05
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Just saw this from my friend posting on FB (I don't go on there much so am a little late getting the info).

Latest update as of 14 Nov, 18:30.

Today at 18:00 CA time 2 websites listed 103 names out of the 228 missing. My mother’s name was not on those lists. So I contacted the Butte Co. Sheriff Dept. to find out why her name was not listed. This is what they told me:
1. The National Guard has been called in to help search for fatalities.
2. The report I filed this weekend has not been assigned an investigation officer and thus it has not been assigned a case number. Without a case number her name will not make it to the missing person’s lists that are presently being published. So she is still on the missing person’s list with 1000’s of other people but she is not listed on line yet. Yes, the lady said 1000's of other people are missing. That is the first time I have heard that!
3. There are presently only 4 officers working all the missing person's cases, yea can you believe that shit! They are totally overwhelmed. And will be this way for months to come.
4. They told me that my mother’s trailer was still standing but that no one was presently home when they stopped by. They did not tell me when they stopped by.
5. They told me they would be going back out to her trailer to look for her again but that they did not know when.
I am absolutely convinced that CA is bungling this whole process. Only 4 investigators? 1000’s of people missing and on the news we have only heard about 228? And they have waited until now to call in the Guard? CA is F**king this up big time.

This is the first I'm hearing about the enormous amount of people missing or the National Guard being called out to help search for them. History is being hidden as it's happening!

My friend's the kind of guy to go tear up the state of California looking for his mom so hopefully she's ok. Back when I used to live in the woods of Oregon and Washington there would always be fires. I began to suspect tptb were smoking out/running off the vets and free spirits that lived up there. Seems a bit of overkill for that though. This looks more like weapons testing or weapons application. No doubt someone will go in and buy up all the land for cheap when it's over.

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2018-11-15 21:19:01
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@whitewave, I am so sorry.

I was watching a vid from LeakProject, and there are some in the comment section who think these fires are to make room for a railway. Cheaper to burn than to buy.

Here are a couple of comments:

Comments: SOLAREN owns the DEW Satellites in LEO...wholly owned by PG&E,...Blum&Feinstein are ordering the torching of California in order to make way for their Half-Fast Railway....so these SWAMPTHANGS are murdering people & destroying all homes in their way to avoid buying the people out...these guys are GITMO BOUND

burn pattern goes right in the path of their intended railway line. Shame on them all for doing this to decent people

I did a quick search of the intended railway line and tried to compare w/ fires. Paradise seems north of the line, but IDK.

The rail line does run through Paradise on this map.
It runs through Fresno and Merced, too.
From May 2, 2018:
1,700-acre brush fire burns west of I-5

High-Speed Rail: Northern California at a Glance
Cost of high-speed rail jumps by millions for moving power, gas and phone lines

In 2013, when the California High-Speed Rail Authority awarded its first contract for construction of the bullet-train route in Fresno and Madera counties, the cost to move AT&T, PG&E and other utilities out of the way was estimated at about $25 million.

Hedges said that through a series of change orders and other developments, the latest estimate of the total cost for utility relocations on the 32-mile segment from north of Madera to south of Fresno is $396 million.

 

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Username: PrincepAugus
Date: 2018-11-16 02:11:06
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So in all these collected data, they're using DEWs to remove people form the area to construct this railway line. This is some futuristic dystopian shit. Coupled with a whole bunch of missing people. Mass kidnapping?

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2018-11-16 02:15:55
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I don't like that green line extending to Seattle. We don't need no "forest" fires here.

 

[trismegistus]

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Username: trismegistus
Date: 2018-11-16 16:36:40
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While watching this video, I found an interesting comment on the article that I think we all might appreciate...

trees are quite literally grounded and only burn if the beam is concentrated for a lengthy period of time, un-grounded materials seem to react quickly and melt or completely disassociate. Notice how in similar fires like Napa, houses veneered in brick and stone were also completely flat. No stone, no porcelain sinks, no duct work, no pipes, no toilets, no water heaters, just flat with trees.

So perhaps the reason we are seeing all these trees sticking around is less because of the locality of the beam, but because the beam itself only affects un-grounded materials.

Skip to 00:33 in this video - - the damn verizon banner is still standing ffs!

 

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-11-16 17:27:03
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woah, that Verizon banner. sigh...

 

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Username: Ice Nine
Date: 2018-11-16 17:29:14
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While watching this video, I found an interesting comment on the article that I think we all might appreciate...

So perhaps the reason we are seeing all these trees sticking around is less because of the locality of the beam, but because the beam itself only affects un-grounded materials.

Skip to 00:33 in this video - - the damn verizon banner is still standing ffs!

Shit oh dear, if seeing that doesn't get people to sit up and take notice, even the most diehard "normie" would have to admit something is not normal/right about these fires. Even if a person could or would eliminate all the other things wrong about the fires, Just those pictures alone are enough proof. The beams only affecting un-ground objects is a good explanation for the trees still standing, but I still find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have combusted being so near the extreme heat these fires seem to have.

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2018-11-16 20:11:28
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@whitewave, I am so sorry.

I was watching a vid from LeakProject, and there are some in the comment section who think these fires are to make room for a railway. Cheaper to burn than to buy.

Comments: SOLAREN owns the DEW Satellites in LEO...wholly owned by PG&E,...Blum&Feinstein are ordering the torching of California in order to make way for their Half-Fast Railway....so these SWAMPTHANGS are murdering people & destroying all homes in their way to avoid buying the people out...these guys are GITMO BOUND

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That's some good info, @Searching. Truly evil, if true but, sadly, it would not surprise me to learn that is the actual cause. Love of money DOES seem to be the root of all evil. Thanks for your concern for my friend.

 

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Username: Ice Nine
Date: 2018-11-16 20:35:37
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I was watching CNN, they just said that 600 people are reported missing so far. It was breaking news, what isn't these days.

california-fires

The story get more grim as it unfolds.

And check out this photo, it is in an article on the NPR website. That is one lucky trailer that didn't burn.

An aerial view of a neighborhood destroyed by the Camp Fire in Paradise, Calif. Fueled by high winds and low humidity, the wildfire ripped through the town, charring more than 140,000 acres and killing more than 60 people.
NPR

 

[trismegistus]

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Username: trismegistus
Date: 2018-11-16 21:11:25
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Another random observation with all these photos and videos:

Where is the evidence of scorching? Look at the stuff that still remained standing, shouldn't I see evidence of flames or soot on them? When I go hiking its pretty obvious where a wildfire broke out because the bottoms of the trees look like flames have been lapping up against them for hours. I don't really see a lot of evidence of this, at least not as much as I feel like I should be seeing. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't sit right with me (along with just about every other aspect of this "fire"). Everything is either fine or completely disintegrated.

EDIT/UPDATE

Don't worry folks, the writers at Gizmodo are here to tell you that if you think this might be caused by DEW, you are a climate denying,flat earther, QAnon loving, chemtrail loving conspiracy theorist! I love this article - - they spend so much time shitting on people for believing this, and conflating this theory with a litany of strawmen conspiracies that they only write one line explaining why it couldn't be done by a DEW.

There’s actually a fair amount of research to explain why some structures are destroyed and some are spared during a wildfire that has nothing to do with laser weapons.

That's it. Click on that link too, the "explanation" is that wind will carry smoldering ash and ignite areas farther away from the main fire. That is the entire explanation for why this can only be a conspiracy theory.

Yet another version of the DEWs story claims that the wildfires were directed in such a way to destroy structures in order to make way for a high-speed rail system, part of a Democrat plot. That’s right: the government is destroying vast swaths of trees, houses and infrastructure to force people to ride the train. That tweeted idea is also tagged with several QAnon-related hashtags.

Hey, look! Someone must be watching this thread from Gizmodo HQ.

I'd be more upset about this complete dumpster fire (pun intended) of an article, but no one actually reads Gizmodo articles, anyway

 

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Username: Ice Nine
Date: 2018-11-16 22:31:40
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@trismegistus good observations, how did that trailer remain unscathed?

and regarding the article....
It's The Greater Whack-job Theory, I'm sure if we could compile any number of Conspiracy theories, or Alternate Thinking or even just plain old thinking in general, a certain percentage are going to be dead on correct, or extremely close to the truth. While everything else might contain bits or pieces, they just aren't there yet and then some are so far off in left field that nobody would even give them a second thought or a glance sideways.

That way we all lose credibility and The Authority Figure Syndrome takes over the minds of the people. While we are left hanging out here in left field in Crazy Town with our insane ideas that go against the grain.

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2018-11-16 22:55:22
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Another random observation with all these photos and videos:

Where is the evidence of scorching? Look at the stuff that still remained standing, shouldn't I see evidence of flames or soot on them? When I go hiking its pretty obvious where a wildfire broke out because the bottoms of the trees look like flames have been lapping up against them for hours. I don't really see a lot of evidence of this, at least not as much as I feel like I should be seeing. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't sit right with me (along with just about every other aspect of this "fire"). Everything is either fine or completely disintegrated.

EDIT/UPDATE

Don't worry folks, the writers at Gizmodo are here to tell you that if you think this might be caused by DEW, you are a climate denying,flat earther, QAnon loving, chemtrail loving conspiracy theorist! I love this article - - they spend so much time shitting on people for believing this, and conflating this theory with a litany of strawmen conspiracies that they only write one line explaining why it couldn't be done by a DEW.



That's it. Click on that link too, the "explanation" is that wind will carry smoldering ash and ignite areas farther away from the main fire. That is the entire explanation for why this can only be a conspiracy theory.



Hey, look! Someone must be watching this thread from Gizmodo HQ.

I'd be more upset about this complete dumpster fire (pun intended) of an article, but no one actually reads Gizmodo articles, anyway

Mind boggling. If this doesn't pull those effected out of their deep slumber then nothing will. Well, I say that, but people still slept after losing their homes and jobs after the '08 redistribution of wealth, uh, I mean housing crisis.

I looked up the info in that tweet about Dianne Feinstein's husband being awarded the rail contract. I find stuff like this:
Sen. Diane Feinstein's husband wins CA rail contract | CalWatchdog.com

 

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Username: Radal16
Date: 2018-11-18 01:31:58
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I just learned today about a chemical called Chlorine Trifluoride that burns pretty much everything on contact. It's so dangerous it's been banned worldwide. Not saying that's what was used in these fires, but if a group of psychopaths had access to that or anything similar...

The Stupidly Dangerous Chemical Chlorine Trifluoride Can Make Anything Burst Into Flames on Contact

 

[anotherlayer]

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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2018-11-18 04:45:59
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Don't worry folks, the writers at Gizmodo are here to tell you that if you think this might be caused by DEW, you are a climate denying,flat earther, QAnon loving, chemtrail loving conspiracy theorist!

ya know, ya gotta question the motive to even write such an article. why not just investigate the claim, not the people claiming it? what a terrible world we live in...