Accommodating the Mudflood & Reset

[Sasyexa]

Based on these archives, what's the average life span throughout the years?

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Based on these archives, what's the average life span throughout the years?

Please re-read the OP, the archive documents are not registrations of births and deaths.

 

[Sasyexa]

Please re-read the OP, the archive documents are not registrations of births and deaths.

Wouldn't these include some information on age?

• Births, marriages and deaths
• Census and other national surveys

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Wouldn't these include some information on age?

Sorry, typo - "not all"

If you want to read through them all, then please feel free, but I get the impression that you are still missing the point somewhat. The OP is about a specific cause and effect - a mudflood that caused a total reset of civilisation/society during the period 1700-1850 (or at anytime between 0000-1899.) This can be viewed as a single event. This wasn't a change of leadership, or of language this was a total wipeout. It doesn't matter what people's lifespan was back then - it's irrelevant because there would be nobody around to record births or deaths and no system in place by which to do so.

If you want to discuss semantics or any other major or minor 'reset' 'restart' or whatever, then kindly do it elsewhere by starting a new thread or disrupting someone else's.

Thank you.

 

[Sasyexa]

Sorry, typo - "not all"

If you want to discuss semantics or any other major or minor 'reset' 'restart' or whatever, then kindly do it elsewhere by starting a new thread or disrupting someone else's.

Thank you.

I ask for a personal reason, not to further argue about the OP. Hoped there would be some statistics to save the trouble.

 

[Blackdiamond]

Stockholm, with years.
why did so many rivers and canals drying up these days?

last picture, house said to be built at the same time as the second stockholm world fairs. A bunch of year later they decided to to archeology, as if they wouldnt have notice all those structures they were building up on, and expanding the island. Look at the foundation, if it is.

Also, the castle in lower left, former starfort, burnt down and it was decided to go with a more modern structure. Ditching the canals and geometry for a square. And this was right at the time when the, according to french academia, Vauban were touring the world and popping up starforts in a hillarious santa claus like manner.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Stockholm, with years.

Would you please kindly explain how any of this relates to the OP.

Thanking you so very much in anticipation.

 

[Blackdiamond]

Would you please kindly explain how any of this relates to the OP.

Thanking you so very much in anticipation.

Well you were discussing time, maybe this could be a clue. Thank you too.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Well you were discussing time, maybe this could be a clue. Thank you too.

Thank you for your reply. Might I also enquire as to whether you actually read the OP, because "discussing time" is not what it's about.

 

[Blackdiamond]

Thank you for your reply. Might I also enquire as to whether you actually read the OP, because "discussing time" is not what it's about.

Then I really must be the village idiot. I was under the impression you couldnt find a timeframe for the reset and people growth in the uk. I also thought that i could add an idea that it may have been prior to your refferd records. Also those records can be as corrupt as any booking's of today. After all its the wealthy who did the counting back then, as it is the same today. Kings, banks, church.
I wonder. Are they honest today? (No its about the only black and white thing in our world) Were they honest then? (Equally not).

 

[Deleted member 1432]

I was under the impression you couldnt find a timeframe for the reset and people growth in the uk. I also thought that i could add an idea that it may have been prior to your refferd records.

I'm sorry, but I don't see any reference to any of that in your comment above.

After all its the wealthy who did the cunting back then, as it is the same today. Kings, banks, church.

I'm hoping that's a really unfortunate typo, nevertheless it's true either way.

 

[ViniB]

Then I really must be the village idiot. I was under the impression you couldnt find a timeframe for the reset and people growth in the uk. I also thought that i could add an idea that it may have been prior to your refferd records. Also those records can be as corrupt as any booking's of today. After all its the wealthy who did the counting back then, as it is the same today. Kings, banks, church.
I wonder. Are they honest today? (No its about the only black and white thing in our world) Were they honest then? (Equally not).

Official records are the last ones we should look for proof of something. Anything that involved government, be it church, royals or any other form, is a big source of forgery. The entire "roman history" was created by "italian humanists" that found a few parchments here and there on really suspicious circunstances to say the least, then they were more or less forgotten until the 1800s and that revival of "ancient history". Forging/making records is a skill the bastards in power are pretty good at, i'm with you

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Official records are the last ones we should look for proof of something.

We're not talking about the rise and fall of an empire, but about records of normal everyday people's interaction with the administrative functions of society. In the UK alone there are 12,497,522 individual documents dating from 0001 to 1899 that show a consistent and steady increase over that period with no fluctuations and no total lack of records during any specific period of time. Any worldwide cataclysm would not just decrease the activity within a civilisation, it would bring it to a full stop, therefore in a society such as ours which is based upon record keeping, accounting, legal statutes, deeds, testaments, registration certificates, records of ownership etc., ad nauseam, any cessation of activity would be blatantly obvious, but it isn't. The only cessation of activity was pre 0001 before the systems even began, so maybe that was the 'Reset' - depending upon your definition of a Reset, of course?

If you find it more plausible that the "bastards in power" forged 12,497,522 individual documents during the 1800s in the UK alone then be my guest.

 

[luddite]

12,497,522 individual documents dating from 0001 to 1899

Fascinating!

Do you happen to know if these exist in some publically searchable database? Once they were opened, digitisation would have had to occur at pace also as government paper was probably low quality and not the longest lasting. I'd love to see the records from 0001.

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Do you happen to know if these exist in some publically searchable database? Once they were opened, digitisation would have had to occur at pace also as government paper was probably low quality and not the longest lasting. I'd love to see the records from 0001.

It's all in the OP, perhaps you should read it.

listening to Sephers latest on YT. He says multiple Troys were built on top of the earlier ruined city. How is this possible? Did they kick the remaining stones around, went over the river for some new ones. Filled in the gaps with soil etc. Or did it get covered in soil by time or some events? Sounds more likely to me.
A bit like roman houses in the UK? One do not forget one day that they stand there, going 10 meters in any direction to start building a new one.
Maybe the roman times were before your research, but the pattern is still there.

Did you post this in the correct thread? I'm struggling to see the relevance.

 

[ViniB]

When looking up my own lineage I only reached the early 19th/late 18th century. It's an assumption though, because there were no dates of birth or death, sometimes not even a surname. I guess no one would want to write a biography of a common man in the Russian empire (before the abolition of serfdom), but it's still worth mentioning that the documentation and memory just doesn't go that far back.

How hard is it to just make up a person anyway? Imagine you have an orphan that only knows his name - call him by some common family name, say he had some grandparents and you're done.

Also the fact that we are alive, so even if there was a reset of some kind, our ancestors obviously survived. I'm not saying that the lack of detailed documentation proves a "tartarian nuclear mudflood", but I'm giving those statements a huge benefit of the doubt, considering some of those catastrophes might have been artificially induced on specific territories at a specific time, so clergy doesn't just cease to exist everywhere.

Good observation with the orphans. Entire cities appear to be (re) populated by those poor kids, where does hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of kids came from? And not just in the US but all over the world. If That's not evidence of a reset, Idk what is!

 

[Deleted member 1432]

Idk what is!

Precisely, with regard to the OP definition you clearly don't!

Where is your evidence for millions of kids repopulating entire cities all over the world? Why would millions of kids survive whatever catastrophe you are fantasising about, but no adults?

 

[Blackdiamond]

What is your thoughts then? You shoot down most ideas presented. Do you not see the problem with archeology, which is still a state run operation. How do you think the church got power in foreign lands? Burried and forgotten buildings? If not a mud- or water flood, pandemics? (planned or not by the murican chinese companys run by fake italians of their days)?
The orphan trains existed both in europe and northern americas and there could only have been one of two reasons for them. They broke their roots, or tube ones for populating. And to add, not all where actual orphans, but a bunch were, did they not have relatives like the old world systems of care taking?
- If this is also deemd of topic please moving it to thr brainstorrm thread.

 

[ViniB]

Precisely, with regard to the OP definition you clearly don't!

Where is your evidence for millions of kids repopulating entire cities all over the world? Why would millions of kids survive whatever catastrophe you are fantasising about, but no adults?

Omg you gotta be kidding me right?? Do yourself a favor and look up photos of the orphan trains and cities that the kids arrived. Do you actually believe that it's normal for children to work to death in coal mines for example??

What is your thoughts then? You shoot down most ideas presented. Do you not see the problem with archeology, which is still a state run operation. How do you think the church got power in foreign lands? Burried and forgotten buildings? If not a mud- or water flood, pandemics? (planned or not by the murican chinese companys run by fake italians of their days)?
The orphan trains existed both in europe and northern americas and there could only have been one of two reasons for them. They broke their roots, or tube ones for populating. And to add, not all where actual orphans, but a bunch were, did they not have relatives like the old world systems of care taking?
- If this is also deemd of topic please moving it to thr brainstorrm thread.

I think we should discuss this elsewhere, because with will we're hammering cold iron, it will get us nowhere productive

 

[Blackdiamond]

Omg you gotta be kidding me right?? Do yourself a favor and look up photos of the orphan trains and cities that the kids arrived. Do you actually believe that it's normal for children to work to death in coal mines for example??

I think we should discuss this elsewhere, because with will we're hammering cold iron, it will get us nowhere productive

there is the possibillity that Will is right, altough i think it is taking it a bit too far saying the records are perfect.

That is why i wonder what Will thinks about those things. Lion of the north as another example. Brought the southern art of writing and keeping records to maximise tax and troopers. He did that before the english lions, whatever the true symbolical meaning might be, did it.
- Also Will, those early english records, where they kept by the church? As in the people who forced their way of "life" on to the natives wherever in the world they turned?