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[dreamtime]

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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-07-13 06:11:33
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I always thought certain zeolites were good for chelating because of people's testimonies here and other places and some studies on clinoptilolite that showed it to have a high affinity for releasing all sorts of bad metals including mercury into the waste

They can absorb bad things in the soil but not in the human body. The soil doesn’t have a complex metabolism so once the zeolites bind something in the soil, they don’t release it again. in contrast, when the zeolite binds something in the human body, the metabolic activity makes it release the metals at one point again. Zeolites also only work in the gut, but there are no metals in the gut in chronic toxicity. Even theoretically it can only prevent toxicity if you accidentally ingested a high doses of a heavy-metal orally. Unfortunately even in that case it probably won’t work for mercury. Zeolites also contains a lot of Aluminium and there are reports about aluminium toxicity from zeolites. Only true chelating agents can chelate metals in the body - chemicals that have a dithiol bond that tightly binds a metal ion between these two thiol claws.

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-13 09:58:41
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They can absorb bad things in the soil but not in the human body. The soil doesn’t have a complex metabolism so once the zeolites bind something in the soil, they don’t release it again. in contrast, when the zeolite binds something in the human body, the metabolic activity makes it release the metals at one point again. Zeolites also only work in the gut, but there are no metals in the gut in chronic toxicity. Even theoretically it can only prevent toxicity if you accidentally ingested a high doses of a heavy-metal orally. Unfortunately even in that case it probably won’t work for mercury. Zeolites also contains a lot of Aluminium and there are reports about aluminium toxicity from zeolites. Only true chelating agents can chelate metals in the body - chemicals that have a dithiol bond that tightly binds a metal ion between these two thiol claws.

Listen to this man, he know his stuff.

Not many people know that but in case of "good" minerals deficiency the body will hang onto the "bad" minerals as it needs them as "cheap" replacing parts. For example:

1. Calcium and magnesium are replaced by lead.
2. Zinc is replaced by cadmium, mercury and nickel.
3. Chromium is replaced by lead and cadmium.
4. Higher quality magnesium is replaced by other magnesium compounds that are less biologically available.
5. Higher quality potassium is replaced by toxic potassium that comes from superphosphate or N-P-K fertilizers.
6. Oxides of iron, manganese, copper and other minerals replace more bioavailable forms of these minerals.
7. Some phosphorus is replaced by lead and arsenic.

That means that you can not forcefully chelate toxic metals - the body won't let go of them. Only when the supply of the good ones is persistent, the bad ones will be released from binding site. There's also a certain order of releasing the bad ones.

The best detoxifying method I know is the sauna.

 

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Username: RedFox
Date: 2020-07-13 12:13:59
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They can absorb bad things in the soil but not in the human body. The soil doesn’t have a complex metabolism so once the zeolites bind something in the soil, they don’t release it again. in contrast, when the zeolite binds something in the human body, the metabolic activity makes it release the metals at one point again. Zeolites also only work in the gut, but there are no metals in the gut in chronic toxicity. Even theoretically it can only prevent toxicity if you accidentally ingested a high doses of a heavy-metal orally. Unfortunately even in that case it probably won’t work for mercury. Zeolites also contains a lot of Aluminium and there are reports about aluminium toxicity from zeolites. Only true chelating agents can chelate metals in the body - chemicals that have a dithiol bond that tightly binds a metal ion between these two thiol claws.

Listen to this man, he know his stuff.

Not many people know that but in case of "good" minerals deficiency the body will hang onto the "bad" minerals as it needs them as "cheap" replacing parts. For example:

1. Calcium and magnesium are replaced by lead.
2. Zinc is replaced by cadmium, mercury and nickel.
3. Chromium is replaced by lead and cadmium.
4. Higher quality magnesium is replaced by other magnesium compounds that are less biologically available.
5. Higher quality potassium is replaced by toxic potassium that comes from superphosphate or N-P-K fertilizers.
6. Oxides of iron, manganese, copper and other minerals replace more bioavailable forms of these minerals.
7. Some phosphorus is replaced by lead and arsenic.

That means that you can not forcefully chelate toxic metals - the body won't let go of them. Only when the supply of the good ones is persistent, the bad ones will be released from binding site. There's also a certain order of releasing the bad ones.

The best detoxifying method I know is the sauna.

It just kind of goes against that study I've seen on the topic. Zeolites do not pass the BBB but are believed to clear out the body and brain through some not yet understood mechanism I think. I hope you're wrong just because I need some kind of hope to hold onto for my own health. I think my sleep is so broken in part to heavy metals and was finally glad I may have found a way to help myself improve that situation some. Now I'm a bit worried I made it worse. Sigh. Getting my fillings removed is already a huge challenge for me financially and saunas just aren't a possibility outside of steaming in the shower.
I just want this shit out of me and a good night's sleep. I had a nightmare in my 3 hour rest tonight related to this discussion lmao. I crave control over my health and I don't feel like I have it physically or mentally.
I've never heard of anyone getting toxicity from clinoptilolite which is the zeolite in question. They do contain a lot of aluminum but it's not absorbed into the body because of the charge. There's data to back up the fact it removes lead, mercury and aluminum.

But I guess I won't be taking it either if there's a chance it'll redistribute things. Didn't know you could hurt yourself if you take chelators with amalgam not removed. I just want some control over my health and decent sleep. I hate having this shit in my mouth and my brain. I'm so tired.
I've been taking colloidal gold and have noticed a lot of benefits, unrelated to mechanisms it has with mercury potentially. Two gold atoms release one mercury atom from the brain apparently and I'm hoping through some way or another those find their way out of me.

 

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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-07-13 12:45:46
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Since around May, my sleep has committed suicide and I don't know why. Shortly before then I was getting up at 10 and sleeping at 9, had the best sleep I'd had in years even though it was broken up into two segments. I haven't been able to sleep a full 8+ hours without waking up once or twice in years. Lately, my body just refuses to sleep. I'll be up for 30+ hours and get 5-6 broken hours spread over 8-12 very commonly now.
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Is it even possible for the average low income person to protect against things like this? Getting rid of a smart meter (and making sure they don't install one stealthily or impose other sanctions on you for not complying..), revamping your internet connection, throwing your phones away which may cut you off with other family members whom that is the only means of contact...
And even if one achieves all of this is there really a noticable healh benefit, and if there is, will TBTP not come up with something else to kill us?
I guess I'm asking if there's even a point in trying to move away from things like smart meters and 5G if it's more or less going to be/is already everywhere and inescapable if you want to live in society. Or not even if you want to but if you need to just to get through life to work or see family...

Have you tried exercising until you fall over from exhaustion? The one thing the piarists were right is that to be able to have a healthy soul, you need a healthy body. Exercising until exhaustion even nukes depression.

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-07-13 13:00:20
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Mineral baths. Hot springs. Mud soaks. Salts...

 

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Username: RedFox
Date: 2020-07-13 13:06:39
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Have you tried exercising until you fall over from exhaustion? The one thing the piarists were right is that to be able to have a healthy soul, you need a healthy body. Exercising until exhaustion even nukes depression.

I do what I can, which is very little because I have no energy and busted knees. I have the strength of an anorexic person which makes sense because I'm a barely recovered anorexic. Not trying to shit up the thread with my blogging and desperation to cure my ailments but learning how poor the state of the world is in, and additionally how volatile my health is with 15~ years of having poison in my mouth isn't helping my mental state lately. The worst is the lack of sleep, 3-4 hours every 24+ and 8+ lying in bed mostly awake for two months now. Something has broken my sleep recently and I don't know if it's related to my ongoing health problems or just a general symptom a lot of us are going through in regards to sleep in this thread.
In between the poisoning and already dealing with trauma for a long time, discovering more hurdles is both demoralizing and scary. It's hard to just "not be fearful" when I'm already paranoid about my mental clarity as I know some of you understand from the "Dealing with it all" thread.

Trying to keep on topic and not just keep whining, I notice a lot of anomalies in the clouds lately at night when the moon is out and bright. The clouds will arrange themselves around the moon like it's the eye of a tornado and the natural life outside seems very active for the past few months. I live in the mountains so I notice birds being awake at weird hours and my cats seem to be responding weirdly in some of their behaviors to the energy. Over hunting being one of them. The wildlife on the property seem to be confused too, we have a family of doe that we never used to see much come out onto the main land basically lounging and looking a little lost. The cats act up at night and we more often than not have crystal clear skies out and I can feel the moon more strongly than ever. It's almost eerie how welcoming and peaceful nights that the moon are out feel and how oppressing the atmosphere outside feels when it's not. We have a lot of spooky local lore here relating to monsters and cryptids and folks stay in home at night but the way the forest feels on a full moon (or even just a cloudless night) is a feeling I've never had in the 20 years living here. Sitting outside barefoot on the soil in the morning and at night on clear skies is a tranquility I'd never felt even as a mountain person. The insects are behaving weirdly though.

Mineral baths. Hot springs. Mud soaks. Salts...

I think the only things of those available to me would be salts and mud baths, which I know nothing of and would know nothing of if it gets poison out of my brain. I do the best that I can for my economic situation but it's one where taking a plane out a few states over is half of my monthly budget.

 

[AthroposRex]

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Username: AnthroposRex
Date: 2020-07-13 13:08:20
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I read somewhere (still unconfirmed) that 6 Ghz affects the absorption of iodine- the key mineral for a healthy thyroid. The new Wi-Fi 6 routers radiate at 6 Ghz. Kelp is good for iodine.

Luigols iodine is good too if you don't have kelp. Just wipe it on your skin and the body eats what it needs.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2020-07-13 13:11:47
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Death is what makes memory possible.

Or, another way to say it is, death is what makes history possible.

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-13 13:16:22
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saunas just aren't a possibility outside of steaming in the shower.

Here's how you can build a sauna for under $200. You need:

1. One grow tent 120x120cm like this
2. Four infrared spot lights like this . Brands Sylvania, General Electric, Philips, SLi, Satco, Havel, and Feat.
3. A small stool to sit on.

Assemble the grow tent as usual. Place the four lights in a diamond shape on a platform (mine is wooden) of about 50x50cm. Wire them safely and hang the from the ceiling in the grow tent. The tent usually come with straps and one metal tube which is removable and attached on the ceiling. You can use them to hang the lights on.

The diamond shape lights have to be positioned roughly at the same level as your upper torso, just under the chin. For safety you can install a guard to prevent from burning yourself but I have never had this issue. Try not to stare at the lights. Just use your common sense.

It's a dry type of sauna and because it's fitted with aluminium sheets from inside very easy to clean the floor and the walls.

That's all, very easy and cheap. It's light weight, safe and you can move it around. You can put it away easily if you don't need it.

You start sessions of 10-15 mins and gradually increase to 30 mins max. With time you will sweat more and more. It is the perfect therapy when you feel like you coming down with a cold ... otherwise known as c-19. LOL

Drink water before and after use and maybe some electrolytes as with sweating you lose some bad metals but some good ones too. Kelp provides good amount of electrolytes and sea salt.

The sauna is perfectly safe so long as you don't burn yourself because of negligence or falling asleep/fainting. If you're not confident in the beginning you can ask someone to supervise for you. Young children need to be supervised too. If you eat well (keto is best) and don't overdo it, it can not do any harm at all.

Do not use while pregnant. In Finland they do but the jury is still out on this one.

Strip naked, get in and enjoy the warmth! After the session is over have a lie down for 15 minutes to allow the body to re-balance.

Sweating from exercise is not the same as sweating in sauna as when you move around you employ the sympathetic nervous system whilst in sauna you switch in a parasympathetic mode. My opinion is that excessive exercise is counterproductive. In fact, when you detoxify you need to rest and sleep more than usual.

Always start with short sessions and give your body time. Once a week is a good measure. Do not expect any miracles.

 

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Username: RedFox
Date: 2020-07-13 13:23:14
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Here's how you can build a sauna for under $200. You need:

1. One grow tent 120x120cm like this
2. Four infrared spot lights like this
3. A small stool to sit on.

Assemble to grow tent as usual. Place the four lights in a diamond shape on a platform (mine is wooden) of about 50x50cm. Wire them safely and hang the from the ceiling in the grow tent. The tent usually come with straps and one metal tube which is removable and attached on the ceiling. You can use them to hang the lights on.

The diamond shape lights have to be positioned roughly at the same level as your upper torso, just under the chin. For safety you can install a guard to prevent from burning yourself but I have never had this issue. Just use your common sense.

That's all, very easy and cheap. It's light, you can move it around and you can put it away if you don't need it.

You start sessions of 10-15 mins and gradually increase to 30 mins max. With time you will sweat more and more. It is the perfect therapy when you feel like you coming down with a cold ... otherwise known as c-19. LOL

Drink water before and after use and maybe some electrolytes as with sweating you lose some bad metals but some good ones too. Kelp provides good amount of electrolytes and sea salt.

Thanks Plamski, I'll look into it. I hope that gets some of the quicksilver out of my brain and doesn't do anything bad with the few bits that are still in my teeth. You've been kind to me.
I think I'll be able to keep my good metals balanced. I looked into colloidal metals a lot lately and silver and gold have improved things for me a lot. Gold irrefutably gave me a level of cognition I haven't had in a while and social intelligence and I should be getting more from my ketoish-carnivore-ish diet than I have lately compared to years before. C. zinc and copper have done amazing things to my hair and skin that I notice go away when I stop taking them so I think there's something there I've been treating. Kind of have to be careful though because some of the other metals aren't very well understood and I met a lot of people telling me Z and C would poison me but I don't think that's possible at small amounts and small ppm levels in the blood.

I'm not worried about covid LMAO I've had a cough for years so apparently I've had it before it became a thing. Maybe I should cut my hair because the news told me women need to because of covid?
One GREAT thing about where I live right now is that no one really gives a shit about the virus or takes it seriously. It's a very nice positive offset to the general poverty that emanates from the south. People in the more urbanized areas are fearful of it but back in the sticks most of the employees don't even take the mask regulations seriously and no one enforces it in any of the stores despite the signs being up. I love it!

And you know, I think the locals are catching on too. We have a lot of drug infestation here, and that comes with things like people not having the best hygiene and sharing their uh, tools. And no one seems to buy it because you'd think the people with drug problems would be the first to turn into covid zombies. Some very elderly folk have been "diagnosed" with it and recovered (almost like it was nothing or a false positive) and no one I know seems to take it seriously since the elderly and the drug addicted haven't had their lungs melt off. It's great to see despite the "plant" cases that no ones taking it seriously.

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-07-13 13:34:42
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Not THAT kind necessarily...
But fungi have many useful properties. Reishi and others good...
Of course sea vegetables, seaweed... Dark greens.
We breathe through our skin too!

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-13 13:35:12
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Thanks Plamski, I'll look into it. I hope that gets some of the quicksilver out of my brain and doesn't do anything bad with the few bits that are still in my teeth.

The sauna is perfectly safe so long as you don't burn yourself because of negligence or falling asleep/fainting. If you're not confident in the beginning you can ask someone to supervise for you. Young children need to be supervised too. If you eat well (keto is best) and don't overdo it, it can not do any harm at all.

 

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Username: RedFox
Date: 2020-07-13 13:46:36
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The sauna is perfectly safe so long as you don't burn yourself because of negligence or falling asleep/fainting. If you're not confident in the beginning you can ask someone to supervise for you. Young children need to be supervised too. If you eat well (keto is best) and don't overdo it, it can not do any harm at all.

Thank you friend. If I can scrape up the money this month I'll build this. How often do you recommend using it?
The only young child here is my in my head, lol. I've been trying to accomplish some kind of carnivore diet but it's mostly keto-ish out of necessity but I've seen a lot of improvements since starting it accidentally.
I wonder if the improvement in blood work some people see in carnivore vs keto is up to the quality of the vegetables they get..? A theory I've heard here was that fiber is basically useless because most fruits and vegetables are modified and we can't digest it well so it's better to avoid the antinutrients in them all together.
I mainly try to focus on having as high a fat intake as possible, my diet isn't perfect or balanced because of food availability and money but I think even with it not having perfect nutritional roundness it's a massive massive boost over eating processed foods all the time and having almost no meat or fat in the last diets I'd tried.

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-13 13:55:39
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How often do you recommend using it?

I have been using it almost daily for three years, now less as I feel like I don't need it so much. But to be safe you can start with very short session until you acclimatize properly. Sweating in the beginning won't start quickly as the skin pores are blocked but in the course of time it will accelerate. I start sweating now after 10-15 mins with initially a cold sauna but if it's preheated then obviously is quicker. I don't think you need to waste energy to preheat it but it depends on your cold tolerance levels, especially in the winter. In the summer you just walk in.

After a good sweat I usually have a quick cold shower and then go back in to warm up a bit. I love it!

After the session is over have a lie down for 15 minutes to allow the body to re-balance.

 

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Username: RedFox
Date: 2020-07-13 14:01:40
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I have been using it almost daily for three years, now less as I feel like I don't need it so much. But to be safe you can start with very short session until you acclimatize properly. Sweating in the beginning won't start quickly as the skin pores are blocked but in the course of time it will accelerate. I start sweating now after 10-15 mins with initially a cold sauna but if it's preheated then obviously is quicker. I don't think you need to waste energy to preheat it but it depends on your cold tolerance levels, especially in the winter. In the summer you just walk in.

After a good sweat I usually have a quick cold shower and then go back in to warm up a bit. I love it!

After the session is over have a lie down for 15 minutes to allow the body to re-balance.

Thank you! I'm glad I don't have to worry about it interacting with my poison fillings. The amalgam vapors video messed me up for a while. I didn't actually know sweating could release mercury so as usual I always learn something new when I come here. And I don't have to worry about redistributing the metals and hurting myself (I think?) so that's a big thing to help me be less paranoid so I thank you again. Hopefully being a little sad doesn't hamper my body's detox abilities too much.

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-13 14:14:58
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Thank you! I'm glad I don't have to worry about it interacting with my poison fillings. The amalgam vapors video messed me up for a while. I didn't actually know sweating could release mercury so as usual I always learn something new when I come here. And I don't have to worry about redistributing the metals and hurting myself (I think?) so that's a big thing to help me be less paranoid so I thank you again. Hopefully being a little sad doesn't hamper my body's detox abilities too much.

Sweating from exercise is not the same as sweating in sauna as when you move around you employ the sympathetic nervous system (catabolic) whilst in sauna you switch to a parasympathetic mode (anabolic - build and repair). My opinion is that excessive exercise is counterproductive. In fact, when you detoxify you need to rest and sleep more than usual.

Always start with short sessions and give your body time. Once a week is a good measure. Do not expect any miracles. Slowly and safely does it.

 

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Username: Hipophoralcu
Date: 2020-07-13 14:27:51
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I have been using it almost daily for three years, now less as I feel like I don't need it so much. But to be safe you can start with very short session until you acclimatize properly. Sweating in the beginning won't start quickly as the skin pores are blocked but in the course of time it will accelerate. I start sweating now after 10-15 mins with initially a cold sauna but if it's preheated then obviously is quicker. I don't think you need to waste energy to preheat it but it depends on your cold tolerance levels, especially in the winter. In the summer you just walk in.

After a good sweat I usually have a quick cold shower and then go back in to warm up a bit. I love it!

After the session is over have a lie down for 15 minutes to allow the body to re-balance.

Did you try different ir lamps, carbon lamp and fullspectrum lamp? I just read about ir sauna yesterday and contemplating where i could put one.

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-07-13 14:45:06
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Did you try different ir lamps, carbon lamp and fullspectrum lamp? I just read about ir sauna yesterday and contemplating where i could put one.

No, I haven't tried different lamps. These red lamps are the same they use for little chicks in farms.

 

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Username: studytruth
Date: 2020-07-13 16:55:15
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I watched both videos, studytruth, and found them inspiring. If it's not too private, though, I wonder if you could provide more details about the spiritual attacks you felt after putting out the first video. I do myself occasionally feel something like "klesha attacks," especially in these times. In my case, I describe the situation as getting lost in a negative emotional state, usually a combination of fear and anger, connected with some external political/conspiratorial/biomedical terror narrative. For instance, I might start thinking about the mark/mask agenda, or about how I plan to resist forced vaccination, and I lose myself for a while. Sometimes for an hour or more! My feeling is that these strong negative emotional states, while they are based in plausible concerns, do not serve me in any way (they certainly do not involve any "actionable intelligence"), but rather feed the originators of the narratives in which they seem to be tied up, perhaps on some spiritual level. Meditation can be a way out, but I have to say that these "attacks" are quite powerful and seem more like a storm that I have to sit through until it passes.

This is to answer greatshakes and super

The attacks were very hard to describe...but first more like a pervading overall exhaustion. But not like a normal tired...but a tired that sort of takes you over like a large wave at the beach, it just would roll in and engulf me.
Next is something similar to what great was suggesting. Like thoughts or emotions are trying to get into your mind, each one trying to get me to something a bit negative and harmful for the body- nothing small, but just little things...that if you did them and the next and the next would have an overall effect. You had to catch them before the train got started.
Next would be almost energy like bursts like what an a bb rifle feels like when shot at you from a distance, there is sort of a "ugh wahts that" but nothing is in the immediate environment to say what it was. then the next comes. again this cumulative thing of little tiny snipes that try to drag you down over time.
Then 2 days later a black helicopter buzzed right by my place twice...and if you don't really stay centered those things can give you horrible headaches and again drain the energy from you like you have ran a marathon.

Thanks for asking me, I hadn't had to write it down before so it has taken a while just to think about what they are.
Just staying alert to them helps in itself to make the energy drops maintainable...

 

[dreamtime]

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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-07-13 17:23:43
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Then 2 days later a black helicopter buzzed right by my place twice...

Have you looked into the Agnihotra ritual? still have to do it myself but it seems to very protective in keeping negative energy out.