Flat Earth

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"In addition, the habit of Sumerians to consider civilization and the world as an interchangeable term. "

no response to this quotation?
At first blush, it suggests that the "world" is a construct made by or for humans.
Not a physical place, but a political and cutural realm.

Another interpretation may present this reality as a sim world, a computer program that reboots every so often. You know my theory on the means of deconstruction -- comets.

World ages would be caused by these resets. The Mayans proposed 4 previous ages, making this the 5th. Ovid and Hesiod spoke metaphorically, or maybe factually, of 4 previous ages: Gold. Silver, Bronze, Iron. What metal describes our current world? Sorry, plastic is not a metal.

 

[Jd755]

Got a quarter of an hour?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qaqfivcL4Y
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[Worsaae]

Got a quarter of an hour?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qaqfivcL4Y
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That's interesting.
What can explain that the horizon lowers when you go up?

 

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Got a quarter of an hour?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qaqfivcL4Y
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As usual, explaining astronomy perception is like telling a color-blind person what red looks like.
The universe has too many moving parts. I went to Stellarium to see how to find Polaris. When I opened this page,
Stellarium Web Online Star Map
an odd image appeared in the top -- a crescent moon with stars in the dark side. Why would they do that?

That's interesting.
What can explain that the horizon lowers when you go up?

Lowers? Every video I've seen shows the horizon rising to eye level.
If earth were a ball, it would shink in size as altitude increases.

 

[Kmbytt]

I’m pretty intrigued by Ewaranon’s clocklike version of the FE model given the source (our moon), the incorporation of the precession of the equinoxes, the Latin cross, nobility version of the crescent moon, temporary ice wall as well as many other SH aspects we are so familiar with here.

For example, all of the old glorious / impossible architecture could be from the last time the sun and moon were above our current known section of the larger realm. Granted that would have been many thousands of years ago under the ~25k great year model. However, it would have been frozen in time as the sun and moon would have moved on to the other sections of the realm in between. Partially explaining why the old population is nowhere to be found and many other aspects of the mud flooded buildings all over the show.

Questions for those smarter than me:

1) Do the northern / southern celestial hemispheres make sense in Ewaranon’s model? Or does perspective make this a mute point anyways?

2) Does the position of the North Star / Polaris make sense in his model when viewed from the outside areas in our known plane in the Southern Hemisphere?

Keep in mind the map includes the sunken continent Lumeria on our known section/plane - so doesn’t immediately register that it’s similar to the FE maps most of us are familiar with.


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Just learned about this yesterday from auto didactic. I am very interested

 

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We had a storm tonight. Winds rocked the house and thunder rolled between the surface and the dome.
I'm not having good luck finding FE studies of how it all works -- the energy production of the earth battery.
When consensus science names things, they camouflage the true nature of weather and cosmology.
Examples --
dark matter = the ether/aether (dielectricity)
ionosphere = the dome/firmament
outer space = the Antarctic ice barrier

Not enough FE research and explication, in my opinion, of things: lightning, hurricanes, other surface conditions, much less why the crust is disrupted by volcanoes, sinkholes, earthquakes.

Obviously electrical forces.

Schumann resonances - Wikipedia

This global electromagnetic resonance phenomenon is named after physicist Winfried Otto Schumann who predicted it mathematically in 1952. Schumann resonances occur because the space between the surface of the Earth and the conductive ionosphere acts as a closed waveguide. The limited dimensions of the Earth cause this waveguide to act as a resonant cavity for electromagnetic waves in the ELF band. The cavity is naturally excited by electric currents in lightning. Schumann resonances are the principal background in the part of the electromagnetic spectrum[2] from 3 Hz through 60 Hz,[3] and appear as distinct peaks at extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.83 Hz (fundamental), 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and 33.8 Hz.[4]

 

[FarewellAngelina]

It would be hard to get funding to do FE research or any research with an anti-establishment slant -stick with the paradigm and you'll do all right .
Schumann is another paperclip scientist doing what he was told to do , like paperclip Von Braun the rocket engineer who knew you couldn't get to the moon - made head of Nasa or some such thing.

Seems the dome begins around 100km though .
It would be hard to get funding to do FE research or any research with an anti-establishment slant -stick with the paradigm and you'll do all right .
Schumann is another paperclip scientist doing what he was told to do , like paperclip Von Braun the rocket engineer who knew you couldn't get to the moon - made head of Nasa or some such thing.

Seems the dome begins around 100km though .

 

[Sapioit]

There are a few videos which explains those things better than I can, but here's the outline of some of the content:

1. All modern and historical maps we have are wrong. So we cannot find out where to go.
2. Satellites are "weather balloons" launched from Arctica, Antarctica or from the sea.
3. The sun and moon rotate around the magnetic north, and illuminate one quarter/quadrant of the world at a time.
4. The moon is silver, and the Carrington event acted like a flash to imprint the world map on the moon. It looks more like an X-ray, and the two darkest points are the sun and the true magnetic north.
5. The north pole is a point, which rotates in a circle very slowly, and around which the moon and sun rotate in a circle every day.
6. Pleiades is right above the true magnetic north, around which the compass' magnetic north rotates very slowly, and is the only star in the sky which remains stationary.
7. Everything not illuminated by the sun ends up a frozen dark windless area. The sunlight heats the air to create wind currents.
8. Moonlight actually cools down what it hits, while the sunlight heats up what it hits.
9. Just like holding a flashlight close to a table in a dark room, we illuminate an area but not the whole table, and from some parts of the table the flashlight's light is not visible.
10. To get to the true magnetic north, you have to sail south, and to be able to use the star map for navigation.
11. The closer to the true magnetic north you get, the more the compass will stop working.
12. The south pole's arctic circle is heavily defended by the military of nations.
13. The actual controllers of the world live in the true magnetic north, on a small continent split in a few parts.
14. My addition: Historical evidence might be from a previous cycle. Flash freezing would preserve things intact under a layer of ice, and flash thawing would cause lots of water to displace soil and cause soil liquefaction and mud rivers.
15. My addition: The stars in the sky might be actual settlements on the other side of the world, which live in complete darkness, and have to generate light without the use of a sun. Sunlight would still make the air in the middle be of lower density, so both sides would work similarly, from the point of view of the beings living there.

Relevant videos:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogNiwwoSj4



View: https://odysee.com/@Autodidactic:3/Is-The-Moon-a-Map1:5



View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QImI7ys7tYss/

 

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View: https://youtu.be/5aIkNkbX_gQ


Chicago is visible from across Lake Michgan.
The math (spherical trigonometry) predicting drop from sight makes this repeatable observation impossible.

Maybe defenders of heliocenfrism should pursue this discussion on the other thread.

I'd prefer this one to focus on advanced topics.
Our latest interest is the Electrc Universe operations of the cavity between the dome and the surface.
I know very little about batteries, dynamos, mechanics.
So far, I'm not finding resources that apply real world applications to FE cosmology -- specifically examining weather and comets.

. . . another view is one from religion and stories about advanced beings.
I'm not a believer, but I take biblical and mythical writings seriously.
The world, or the universe, is a creation. That does not mean God, a supernatural being. Enoch was one of the first-generation humans who lived extremely long lives. He claimed to have ridden up to the throne of God where he could see the earth and its working parts, the places where fallen angels were imprisoned, other mysterious things.
His descriptions of the portals are interestjng.



View: https://youtu.be/R-Jpr3kGQXM

 

[Citezenship]

View: https://youtu.be/5aIkNkbX_gQ


Chicago is visible from across Lake Michgan.
The math (spherical trigonometry) predicting drop from sight makes this repeatable observation impossible.

Maybe defenders of heliocenfrism should pursue this discussion on the other thread.

I'd prefer this one to focus on advanced topics.
Our latest interest is the Electrc Universe operations of the cavity between the dome and the surface.
I know very little about batteries, dynamos, mechanics.
So far, I'm not finding resources that apply real world applications to FE cosmology -- specifically examining weather and comets.

. . . another view is one from religion and stories about advanced beings.
I'm not a believer, but I take biblical and mythical writings seriously.
The world, or the universe, is a creation. That does not mean God, a supernatural being. Enoch was one of the first-generation humans who lived extremely long lives. He claimed to have ridden up to the throne of God where he could see the earth and its working parts, the places where fallen angels were imprisoned, other mysterious things.
His descriptions of the portals are interestjng.



View: https://youtu.be/R-Jpr3kGQXM

View: https://youtu.be/2pDcv6g1FE0?t=1188

 

[E_V_]

I just want to add Chicago is visible from the suburbs as well. One of the fun parts of living near the city growing up was seeing all the places you could still see Chicago from. Had nothing to do with flat earth. It’s just cool as a kid to see the city when you’re far away from it. To call it a mirage is silly. Just need a clear day and you can see the skyline from all sorts of far away places

When I saw that newscast calling it a mirage I wondered why they’d even bother making that excuse. Makes you think

 

[AntiSoof]

Hi, my name is AntiSoof.
Not speaking English as my mother tong.

I wish to add some thoughts of mine:


1. Maybe earth is ánd flat ánd a globe?
The earth may look like a globe with a flat plane. This globe has a speed 'upwards' in a very big circle. This speed is the 'gravity'? So gravity don't exists, it is the speed of the globe. Maybe this globe is very huge. Lets say 10 times what is thought?
F.i. throw a ball in the air. The earth moves to the ball and we only thínk it is falling. (lol)
Thus we live on something thats like a big crater. Thats the plane. So flat earth maps can be, in a way, correct. ( But they forget the rest of the (huge) globe? )

I don't know much about this, but it can be a way to explain the gravity-problem.

2. An other way to explain gravity is ether. When and if ether moves inside earth, lets say, with the speed of light, it seems as if we move to earth (weight), but no, the surrounding ether moves and keeps us on the globe.
( Ether may be also the origin of matter. So, if ether moves to the center of the earth, it becomes matter. This is why the earth grows and is hot in the center where ether is converted into pure matter. )

 

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1. To get to the true magnetic north, you have to sail south, and to be able to use the star map for navigation.
2. The closer to the true magnetic north you get, the more the compass will stop working.

I haven't had time to look at the map videos but agree with most of your points.
I don't understand these 2 and would appreciate your context.
Magnetism is another area of the electric battery that we need to figure out.
Thanks.

 

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What is the sun? a ball of fire that burns for millions of years?

The fact is, according to modern science, that two of the lightest elements in the periodic table undergo nuclear fusion and create gravity that holds 9 (or is it 8.5?) planets on the ecliptic plane.
makes perfect sense, and Nasa has the maths to prove it.

But then.
We have Eric Dollard who years ago said that if you doubt the sun science, you'll go to jail.
He also said back then that the sun was hollow, a transformer powered from an "interdimensional" software souce, and is dying.

In this video he experiments with cosmic induction generation (plasma aether).

View: https://youtu.be/cVeJXBar-sQ

 

[Jd755]

Well Worsaae must be too busy to come up with the goods so I had a bash myself.
The cemetery is over two miles away uphill from here so opted for a similar length walk on the level to get the images below.
The camera used was a Sony compact camera fixed to a wooden block by its tripod shoe and bolt. The block was checked for square with a square (bloody silly english language!) and was found to be true.
The block was levelled using a spirit level you can seen in the picture below from camera to horizon and from left to right.
Sadly in Picture 1 the camera moved as I pressed the shutter as the block was levelled with twigs and one must have moved.
I didn't realise it until my return however it is of no consequence as the level showed the camera was level from it to the horizon.
I have done nothing in post processing save using Nomacs 'save for web' function to reduce the image size.

Here are the three picture positions.

The spirit level is where I took picture one.
The post is where I took picture two.
The path is where I took picture three

The base of the vegetation to the right is the level of the mud flat over which the tide floods at high spring tides.

A side view showing the difference in height of all three positions and how far apart they are.

Picture one. This one is about three feet above the mud line.

Picture two. The post is six feet tall from the path using my height as the measure and the path is seven or eight feet above the first picture position.

Picture three. This one is the camera on the block on the ground on the path so is approx six feet lower than picture two and approx seven or eight feet higher than picture one

 

[Worsaae]

Yes, I don't have much time for family, friends or personal research currently. At work we're usually busy before summer starts because of vacations, which puts our man power down.

Good pictures.
The horizon is at 299-304 pixels in the first picture.
The horizon is at 276-278 pixels in the second picture.
The horizon is at 297-305 pixels in the third picture.

In paint the pixels are counted from top down, so the horizon seems to go up, when we increase the height of the camera.

That is unexpected to say the least. Concave earth? What's happening here?

 

[Jd755]

That is unexpected to say the least. Concave earth? What's happening here?

Good to see you have just enough free time to measure the pixel height of these images and throw concavity into the mix.
Cannot wait for your photos to confirm this concavity but seems due to your waking days being so busy you won't be finding the time anytime soon. pity, que sera sera.

Just for shits n giggles here is a description of the pixel and its sizes.

Pixels are the smallest result possible image elements on monitors that lined up with their respective colors pictures. The size of a Pixel is not determined as a lump sum, but depending on your setting.

• For example, you can change the resolution of your screen and the size of each individual Pixel to adjust:
• You can switch around a resolution of 1920 x 1080 to 1080 x 720, decreases the total number of pixels while the screen size of course. Accordingly, the pixels grow.
• It is similar with the PPI indication in photos. PPI (Pixels per Inch or pixels per inch) indicates how many pixels are on a fixed length.
• At higher PPI number, each individual Pixel is correspondingly smaller.

source
The camera is a 12.1 megapixel camera.
Nomacs reduces the image size from 2592 x 1944 pixels to 800 X 600 using its 'save to web feature'.

I cannot account for the difference in the pixel counts between the photographs so therefore the island in the distance which forms the horizon is approximately three miles from the cameras viewpoints is prime facie evidence of a concavity....unless the land is rising on the island and the higher up the viewpoint of the camera gets the more of the rise it sees....but the ocean beyond it doesn't continue the upward curve as it is not visible in any of the image so therefore the earth must be a ball as if it were concave then it would rise up beyond the island.
But that explanation is just nonsense.

I would go back and do it again on a sunny day just in case the ocean horizon is simply obscured by the falling rain but frankly cannot be bothered.
You have the floor.

 

[Worsaae]

Good to see you have just enough free time to measure the pixel height of these images and throw concavity into the mix.
Cannot wait for your photos to confirm this concavity but seems due to your waking days being so busy you won't be finding the time anytime soon. pity, que sera sera.

Just for shits n giggles here is a description of the pixel and its sizes.



source
The camera is a 12.1 megapixel camera.
Nomacs reduces the image size from 2592 x 1944 pixels to 800 X 600 using its 'save to web feature'.

I cannot account for the difference in the pixel counts between the photographs so therefore the island in the distance which forms the horizon is approximately three miles from the cameras viewpoints is prime facie evidence of a concavity....unless the land is rising on the island and the higher up the viewpoint of the camera gets the more of the rise it sees....but the ocean beyond it doesn't continue the upward curve as it is not visible in any of the image so therefore the earth must be a ball as if it were concave then it would rise up beyond the island.
But that explanation is just nonsense.

I would go back and do it again on a sunny day just in case the ocean horizon is simply obscured by the falling rain but frankly cannot be bothered.
You have the floor.

I cannot explain what we see on your photos. Normally I would say measurement error, because just a slight tilt will have a huge impact on the horizon. Maybe one of our perspective guys can figure this one out for us.
I wouldn't say, at least for now, that we have good evidence for either the FE or the RE model.

 

[Jd755]

Maybe one of our perspective guys can figure this one out for us.

What?
Here watch this I will make massive building, chimney and electricity pylon disappear simply as a result of the way our eyes work. It's magic.
All taken on the walk back all run through the nomacs image reduction process just like the others. Only difference is this time it is just me looking straight ahead using my inbuilt systems to level. With apologies to Grav for having to labour the point.

Gone!
Not really. Here it is as large as life!

The eyes have it.​

 

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Pretty countryside, except for that very serious fence.
My favorite is the closeup of wildflowers.

The problem with land is its tendency to go up and down. Uneven hills and valleys can't be measured for our purposes -- unless we have a very long view, say a hundred miles or so.
This is why we need to find bodies of water that can be pinpointed.
2 miles of lake or ocean should be easy enough to find for an experiment.
The 8xdxd formula is also easy enough to do in your head.
8x2x2 = 32 inches.
Put a breadbox at the shoreline and try to photofraph it from the opposite bank, with your camera height also at the shoreline.
If the breadbox is not visible, you have proof of the globe.
If it's visible, nope.

You think we might be living on the inside of a sphere?
Concave Earth confuses me totally. Mostly because water seeks its own level.
Does The Wild Heretic address this watery conundrum?